Government Considering GST on Overseas Purchases & Subscriptions (Netflix)

I'll let you make your own minds up on whether or not this is a good idea, but I have a feeling I already know…

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/04/australian-government-cons…

Comments

  • +32

    They can getf*****.

    • +3

      getflix?

      • +1

        yeah i user it already.

        also i thought it was pretty funny that i am watching How i met your mother right now lol.

  • +5

    Another reason to to go VPN I guess

  • +8

    We already pay 25% extra in the USA courtesy of the australian dollar; what a joke.

  • +49

    Aust Government: "We'd like you to stop pirating movies and shows, but we'd also like you to pay GST for your legit online media subscription services."

    Yeah, that's gonna work.

    • Something isn't right with the Australian Government's logic atm.

      • +1

        That's related to the election that was most of the Australian did!!

        • +4

          Agreed. I think most people had enough of Labor, but now people realize the mistake they made.

        • +3

          @Dennis3003:
          Not in NSW though……….people still……

        • +1

          @Dennis3003: I don't think the problem was so much that people had enough of Labor - they weren't a bad government. Both Kevin and Julia's governments achieved significant reforms, most notably the apology to the stolen generations, the stimulus package which averted Australia from the GFC, Gonski education reform, the national curriculum, the NBN, arguably even the carbon and mining taxes. There was nothing inherently wrong with the Labor government.

          To give credit where credit's due, Tony Abbott ran an extremely good opposition, unlike Bill Shorten right now. Every single thing Labor did wrong, he was onto it, every single thing going wrong, he somehow found a way to link it all back to Labor. Bill Shorten is letting him get away with everything - he's a very bad opposition leader.

        • +1

          @paulsterio: I do agree that the Labour government did a great job, however they had areas that were in need of improvement, like the NBN.

          For me, Bill Shorten doesn't really have a presence in my mind, though I would still vote Labour every time, that is, for now. He just doesn't seem to be as active and vocal.

          I would really like to see Kevin back in the top job.

        • +1

          @Dennis3003: Sadly, the two party parliamentary system ensures that the power of people ends at the electoral poll. This is same everywhere in the world.

        • +1

          @Dennis3003:

          Won't happen since most Labor politicians think he belongs in a straight jacket. Wayne Swan questioned his mental state. Even Bill Shorten thought he was bad but got him back in because he would get more votes than Gillard.

        • +2

          @elf888:

          Not everyone thinks the government should spoon fed them. That's the trouble with so many Labor voters.

        • @Dennis3003:
          Who is Bill Shorten?

        • @spn: Even though this is a troll, Bill Shorten is the labor leader.

        • @Dennis3003: *labor

        • +1

          The problem is that governments can't get legislation for a lot of things through the upper house. This has happened for a number of years now for both parties who have been in power over that time. We must blame ourselves for this. I consistently say vote for the same party in the lower house and the upper house. You wouldn't have as many surprises once a government gets in because they aren't forced to negotiate with smaller parties to change or introduce policies that annoy a number of us.

        • @Dennis3003: i literally forgot… knew i heard it somewhere.. goes to show how great he is.

  • +2

    I wonder how they will implement a 10% tax on overseas purchases. Sounds like they would only be able to make the big sites like Amazon and eBay put on tax if they willingly participated with the scheme, but it would drive away a lot of users. Ebay sellers would not like Paypal fee + eBay fee + AusPost shipping fee + 10% GST on top.

    I don't see how they could make small independent sellers like crafters from Etsy or tiny niche businesses like Dave's Collectible Spoons add on tax. Would be a headache to implement.

    What a joke. Sellers already get around the $1000 tax limit by not marking the item value that high on the shipping label, or breaking up multiple item purchases into smaller $800 packages so you never get trigger the $1k tax limit.

    • +1

      lol uk have gst free threshold at like 15 gbp. They screw you of every little cent.

    • +3

      Ebay Australia is in Switzerland.

      • Oops, where is Switzerburg..

    • Seems every few months this topic comes up. We've already been over it dozens of times. John Howard raised the tax free threshold from $300 to $1000 in 2001 because it costed more to collect than the revenue raised from the tax.
      The fall in the value of the dollar has already increased overseas purchases more than a 10% tax would. If local retailers aren't selling their products, it's probably because it's crap.

  • -1

    doesnt MS and Sony put a tax on their store downloads? how is this different?

    • +2

      Their australian business are selling to you, and are therefore obliged to collect it.

      • +1

        Nah, Sony at least dodges the tax. They charge in AUD and region lock to Australia, sell and market to Australia, but you are buying from "Europe" in company structure. The are cons.

  • +8

    Hasn't the tax on the online overseas purchases under $1000 popped up like several times and the conclusion usually was, "The implementation is more costly than the tax revenue that's come out from it."?

    • +2

      This is government remember. It is not necessary for it to make sense. Convince a few people in the media, and ANYTHING is good to go.

    • I tend to think at times they might do this not because it raises revenue but its what some in big business want. I think Jerry Harvey (Harvey Norman) for example has been banging on about this and no doubt others.

  • +36

    The reason why discussion on tax is almost impossible is because it's so polarising.

    Nobody wants to pay tax, yet everyone wants free education, free healthcare, free everything. So at the end of the day, something has got to give - either you pay more tax or you pay when you go to the doctor's or you pay when you use toll roads or you pay when you go to university (and maybe one day, even high school and primary school).

    Even though we all hate tax, we should note that Australia is one of the lowest taxing countries of all developed nations. http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Gui… We pay approximately the same amount of tax, as a percentage of GDP, as people in the US do. Guess what, we sure get much better value for our taxes then they are. We have universally free and excellent healthcare. All of us can send our kids to public schools for free. We can all go to university for almost free (yes, we have to pay HECS, but that's interest free). On top of that, we have a great aged pension, we support the unemployed, the disabled, the elderly…etc. Generally speaking, Australia has it pretty good. Countries well known for the things Australia is, e.g. Denmark, Norway…etc. all have very high tax rates. Even countries very similar to Australia, e.g. UK and Canada, have higher tax rates.

    Tony and his Liberals keep harping on about tax because it's a great way to cut services. You cut 2% tax, 10% in services. Numbers made up, but you get the point, it's just a side-note and distracts people from what really matters.

    Now, the issue with GST from overseas purchases has been a really complex and long one. For those who don't know, the government collects GST practically for free because it gets retailers to do its bidding. Retailers collect GST on behalf of the government. Of course, they can't make overseas retailers collect GST. So they collect it at customs, which is what they already do right now, for purchases over $1,000. This is expensive, and let's be honest, there are so many cheat ways around this - including declaring fake values, importing into Australia and then shipping from within Australia…etc.

    In the UK, you have to pay VAT on all overseas purchases, so again, Australia has it pretty easy. The case for a GST on overseas purchases has both positive and negative points. The major negative one being it's highly impractical, it's very costly (look at the UK system) and nobody likes paying tax. Of course, the economists here would know that high taxes means less spending, which means less money circulating and less economic growth - so that's something to keep in mind as well.

    However, on the other side, Australia does genuinely have a revenue problem and people are genuinely avoiding local retailers because of GST. I know that there are often times where buying things from overseas is actually less than 10% cheaper, yet do I do it? Of course I do. If GST was imposed on overseas purchases, then Australian retailers would have a much easier time competing.

    That said, I hate paying taxes just as much as the next person, but sometimes it just pays to really take a look at the things we take for granted in Australia and understand that given the amount of tax we pay, we get pretty good value for that.

    • -7

      My question is 50% of what you earn (Personal Income Taxes, GST, Medicare Levy, Other Levies) is going on taxes. People who work hard giving 50% off in taxes, but people who decide not to work hard or not work at all get free handouts. Is it what a developed country like Australia is doing ?

      Why is personal tax so high when corporate tax is sooo much lower ?

      • +19

        Hardly 50% of what you earn goes towards taxes. For an average Australian earning a reasonable salary of $80,000 p.a., you pay around $17,000 in tax, which is an effective tax rate of 21% in income tax. On top of that, you pay 10% GST on whatever goods and services you buy and that's about it - Medicare Levy is included with Income Tax already. You can claim back some of that tax on deductibles, various expenses, negative gearing (if you invest)…etc. The point is, if you compare Australia with many other developed countries, we are in the bottom 5 in terms of %ge tax of GDP. You don't pay a lot of tax in Australia. If you lived in the UK, Canada, Norway, Denmark, Finland or any other country which provides a similar living standard to Australia, you'll be paying more tax.

        When you refer to people who get free handouts, I'm assuming you're talking about 'dole bludgers' - yes, that is a genuine issue, but it's not really relevant to the discussion of tax. Let's assume that we have no dole bludgers, the argument doesn't really change. It's just scapegoating by people to argue that they pay too much tax, which is not the case. Social services does command a very large proportion of the Australian budget, of that budget, however, you'll find that people who rort unemployment benefits are very few. Most of that budget goes towards those on the aged pension, disability pension, students getting AUSTUDY or even people who need support as they are trying to find jobs. You'd be horribly mistaken if you genuinely believe that there are people who would purposely sit on the dole and do nothing - it's nowhere near enough to live off (despite what you might believe or what the media says) and the issue is to create jobs and to ensure that those who do want to work can actually get a job. Also remember the positive side of providing unemployment benefits - it reduces crime, it provides opportunities for people to actually develop their skills and get a job…etc. I actually have a relative who works at Centrelink - they tell me it's not like what the media says - most people who come there actually want to get a job and improve their life - they're not lazy bastards trying to get a free ride off your tax dollars.

        Personal tax vs. corporate tax is a big issue as well. But at the end of the day, the lower the corporate tax rate, the more likely businesses are to reinvest and grow, which is actually better for the macroeconomy. Think of it as a "penalty" for consumption. Businesses are owned by shareholders, when they take their money out of the business, whether through selling their shares or dividends, they pay the outstanding tax anyway. It's called "franking" (I don't know the history of why it's called franking). So the lower the corporate tax rate, the more likely shareholders want to keep their wealth in shares and not remove their earnings for personal consumption…etc.

        • +3

          medicare levy is separate to income tax. You pay the levy only once a year when you lodge a tax return

        • +13

          We also pay Council rates, which is another tax. We pay levies or stamp duty to the states, which are also taxes. We pay taxes when we fill up the petrol. We pay registration for cars.

          All this added up above your 21% income tax rate.

          So we are highly taxed in every thing we do. But we also have services provided for those taxes.

        • +3

          You pay council rates or similar in all developed countries. As well as levies, car registration, stamp duties and taxes when you fill up the car. Nothing special to Australia.

          You have absolutely no idea what highly taxed means. Highly taxed means if you work way more than half of the year for taxes. In Australia you are so far away from that threshold.

          Have a look at the OECD statistics. They say we are low taxed, we get quite a lot of services and our public services are quite efficient.

        • @tohara: What I meant was that I already included the Medicare Levy in the calculation of Income Tax I did, which the ATO calculator does for you.

        • +6

          @diddy50:

          So we are highly taxed in every thing we do. But we also have services provided for those taxes.

          Highly taxed in comparison to what? Saying we're highly taxed, like Tony and Joe do is meaningless because "high" and "low" are comparative words - they're used to describe how two things relate. E.g. The amount of tax we pay is high, compared to "insert something here".

          Compared to any developed OECD country, Australia has relatively low tax rates, so we're not highly taxed, in fact, we're probably lowly taxed. We pay less tax than the UK, than Canada, Norway, Sweden, Finland, France, Germany…etc. All really well developed countries with great living standards. Yet, we pay less tax.

          You're saying we're highly taxed, what are we highly taxed in comparison to?

        • +2

          Highly agree with your point regarding social welfare payments reducing crime. Yes 'dole bludgers' are a detriment to society but welfare payments do stop them from otherwise committing crimes and there are a lot of people who are actively looking for jobs.

          In regards to your reference of the Scandinavian countries, they get taxed more than Australians but their standards of living truly make up for it. They are often well regarded as the most liveable countries in the world. I'd be happy to pay tax if it meant it gets spent well by the government which I think is a different debate.

      • +7

        Don't rely on Hockeynomics for your data. It is a blatant lie. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-02-04/hockey-tax/6066142

    • In terms of taxes on online purchases, I think no GST for under $1000 is really good (for consumers at least), too good even. Even back in my country, I think the tax imposed on private imports are so complex and so weird, I don't think I will do that on the basis of it being a bloody mess (no more than 2 electronics or you have to register and pay fees for it, some categories don't attract tax till $200 mark whereas others do, products with certain active ingredients is prohibited, it becomes different if the good is categorised as a medicine instead of supplement and the line between med and supplement is very arbitary etc etc, in short, it's messy).

      That being said, I think taxing to help Australian retailers would backfire (it's just my simple opinion). People who buy from overseas can compare the prices between the two and more than often, people buy from overseas because it is significantly (at least more than 10%) cheaper overseas. With tax, yes, it will even the playground a bit more, but will it actually make the people who buy from overseas buy from Australia or will it just end up making the overseas buyers to be poorer and thus end up spending less from Australian retailers? Also if GST is imposed on overseas purchases on the basis of "fairness" and therefore the government actually loses money from it… I really don't want to see that (This probably is one of the biggest reason why I think GST on overseas purchases wouldn't happen).

    • +6

      It is extremely frustrating that the liberals got rid of the carbon tax and mining taxes, aka rich people taxes and included more things on to the GST. It's utterly nonsense, both the carbon tax and mining taxes will generate much more income for Australia than a GST on online purchases, worst of all, oversea sellers are not going to comply.

      Liberals are making the most retarded economical decisions to appease the rich, it is really silly and we are heading towards recession thanks to their faulty policies.

      • -2

        Oh!, please enough with the Labour line drivel. Haven't you read the papers lately? The mining industry is going belly up = no super profits tax.

        The carbon tax is just a waste of time. Direct action is needed. (And not that suggested by the Liberals)

        Sure let's put another tax on the people because they are too stupid to realise consumption is the root of this problem.

        I'd prefer the government to give Elon Musk a great big incentive to build a Telsa factory right here in Australia, and although the robots will be doing most of the work, it'll be a beneficial to all those other industries that support car manufacturing. (Or no longer support car manufacturing in the near future)

        It's good for jobs, steel industry, export economy and the environment and it doesn't need to cost us anymore. As a bonus, we'll get access to cheaper Tesla's, will encourage Super Charger Network Rollout and the list goes on.

        Alternatively, we can stop being be excessive consumers, but that's not going to sit nicely with the mantra of this community.

        And your last sentence is absolutely ridiculous and not even worthy of comment.

    • +5

      One thing I would question. "We have universally free and excellent healthcare. All of us can send our kids to public schools for free." Often services provided for free aren't that good. Soon 50% of children will be attending private high schools, so there are a lot of Australians who disapprove of the public system. In the US homeschooling is a popular alternative to public schools, especially among conservatives.

      Public hospitals are certainly better than nothing, but leave a lot to be desired. Psychiatric wards in public hospitals are particularly egregious, more like a prison than a therapeutic environment. A lot of doctors don't bulk bill and thus are not free, and the ones that do are generally awful and want to boot you out of their consulting room in under 3 minutes. Pharmaceuticals certainly aren't free either.

      One thing you may want to add, is that Australians, especially the wealthier ones, have been paying less tax since the Howard government cut taxes. That is why we have a deficit now.

    • +3

      Great explanation Mate. But I have few questions. I always hear that Australia's Tax is lowest of all developing countries, but we are also paying the more in rents, groceries and other day to day routine items. This % is more than 10% and which compensate the less tax paid by us.
      Cars are more expensive here. We even pay much more for services/ Software offered online by companies which are cheap else where and has nothing to do with a little higher wage rate in Australia as it is all online managed overseas.
      Another example: Vegemite which is made in Australia was expensive here compared to UK when I checked in 2013. I cannot understand that logic.
      Buying good from UK is much cheaper - 20-40% compared to Aus prices sometimes. If the difference is 10%, I don't mind paying the extra. Over that explain my the reason why I should not buy. Getting GST wont stop imports as few things still will be cheaper.

      US spend quite a bunch of their budget on arms/defence and then selling them to make more money. Australia's budget on arms is not that much. So it is not fair to compare US/UK's taxation compared to Australia as spending is much different. We are giving a fair chunk of taxes to Govt.

      Rent compared to salary is much higher in Aus compared to US and Canada ( when I checked with few friends there few years back and apologies if it has changed). A large percentage is paid in taxes for rent alone.

      US medical is not free, but Employers pay insurance. They also have Medicare which pays a portion. Insurance is paid by the has insurance.
      UK Public hospitals has free medicines as well including the doctor fees (Might be for families having less income).

      Australia is not as developed compared US/UK/Canada and cannot believe users getting 2Mbps connection just 40kms away from one of the best cities in the world. Fibre to the home (FTTH) were downgraded to Node aka FTTN, which means does not mean it will be fine or will work great. It just means, we will be spending again after few years as Fibre to home is the way to go when every device is becoming smart.

      We desperately need good leaders…

      • I always hear that Australia's Tax is lowest of all developing countries, but we are also paying the more in rents, groceries and other day to day routine items. This % is more than 10% and which compensate the less tax paid by us.

        Yes, but that has nothing to do with tax. Sure, you can argue the cost of living in Australia is high, but that's a completely different issue to tax.

        Cars are more expensive here. We even pay much more for services/ Software offered online by companies which are cheap else where and has nothing to do with a little higher wage rate in Australia as it is all online managed overseas.

        That has nothing to do with tax either.

        Vegemite which is made in Australia was expensive here compared to UK when I checked in 2013. I cannot understand that logic. Buying good from UK is much cheaper - 20-40% compared to Aus prices sometimes. If the difference is 10%, I don't mind paying the extra. Over that explain my the reason why I should not buy. Getting GST wont stop imports as few things still will be cheaper.

        Again, nothing to do with tax.

        US spend quite a bunch of their budget on arms/defence and then selling them to make more money. Australia's budget on arms is not that much. So it is not fair to compare US/UK's taxation compared to Australia as spending is much different. We are giving a fair chunk of taxes to Govt.

        I'd rather spend tax dollars on healthcare and education rather than making weapons and on defence.

        Rent compared to salary is much higher in Aus compared to US and Canada ( when I checked with few friends there few years back and apologies if it has changed). A large percentage is paid in taxes for rent alone.

        Nothing to do with tax.

        UK Public hospitals has free medicines as well including the doctor fees (Might be for families having less income).

        Yes, people in the UK also pay, on average, higher taxes than in Australia.

        Australia is not as developed compared US/UK/Canada.

        Says who? Australia has a higher GDP per capita than both the UK and Canada. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP…

        • "I'd rather spend tax dollars on healthcare and education rather than making weapons and on defence."

          I've been working in the Defence Industry for 30 years, nice to know you'd have me out of a job!!

    • +1

      The Australian public already paid tax and built up services for education, healthcare etc. Now the government is betraying them by selling all the revenue earning assets away to the private sector. If they are going to sell all revenue earning assets away like idiots then the future revenue will only be earned by taxing on essential items.

  • +22

    Rupert Murdoch's media empire in the US has siphoned off $4.5 billion of cash and shares from his Australian media businesses in the past two years, virtually tax free.
    What about getting companies like these to start paying their fair share taxes, surely that should cover it.

    • +2

      No politician anywhere can touch Murdoch.

      The minute they do anything that he does not like, or affects him in any way, his media empire will destroy them within 24 hours.

      Murdoch knows all their secrets, and they will be on the front page of the Herald-Sun in 100 point type, just so there is no doubt in anyone's mind.

      • +3

        Who reads Herald Sun ? I am still furious to people who pay $2.20 and buy that POS from Wollies and Coles every morning. People have too much money to destroy !

        • +1

          People read news.com.au

          which is owned by Murdoch

          Also other stuff owned

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_News_Co…

        • Y'know those GP clinic lobbies? Blood banks? All those kind of places often have the Herald Sun there and very dated magazines.

        • @Ventak: Yes thats fine, but why people pay $2.20 and buy it from Coles at full price every weekend , I have no idea !! We buy it because we get paid for it to get it like the Rebel Sport offer.

      • +4

        "Great leaders are willing to sacrifice the numbers to save the people. Poor leaders sacrifice the people to save the numbers."

        Sadly Modern politics do not have such leaders that care for their citizens and do what is right!

        • Unfortunately, saving the people today means sacrificing the people tomorrow.
          Australia needs to compromise so that people of today and tomorrow will be helped, but not saved, as everyone has their part of responsibility in this game.

        • We need another Gough Whitlam to make those tough decisions even if it means bad publicity.

        • +1

          @pawan1993:

          Haha..Gough Whitlam would increase an already massive debt. Don't come here and be stupid :-)

      • This country would be much better off if we ditched fairfax media! Murdoch has so much influence/power over all the politicians its not funny.

        • +1

          Murdoch doesn't own Fairfax! Murdoch owns News Corp.
          Fairfax is biased towards the left side of politics, much like the ABC.
          If we're going to have one side of the media biased towards one side of politics then we need one side of the media biased towards the other side of politics.
          Fairfax is more biased to the left than Murdoch is to the right. Rupert Murdoch actually supported Rudd becoming Prime Minister. A decision he probably deeply regrets!

        • @Rich2010:

          Thanks for the correction, I wasnt aware of that.

    • Bullshit fair share of taxes. It's a legitimate form of taxes minimisation.

      It's up to the government to legislate if it wants to have companies pay more tax. They pay tax, maybe not to us but to other countries which have lower rates for companies.

      Fair share is a term used by Labor to make companies seem evil, it's purposely divisive. Demonising companies for doing what is allowed to do.

    • +2

      As a chartered accountant who works in tax, that article was bullshit. One of their main claims was that a series of restructurings ended up with an equity balance $4b higher than what they started with through technical accounting requirements.
      For those who don't know, just because your accounting equity went up doesn't mean your tax equity went up. Your tax values follow the rules in tax law, which differs from accounting rules. So pretty poor journalism.

      Also there's nothing wrong with shifting $1billion cash to the US - you pay tax when you earn the money. Why do you care what they do with the money afterwards?

  • +3

    Microsoft, Google and Apple (USA) laughs all the way to the bank and this ridiculous excuse for a government is going to pretend this is a "fair and balanced" response. Hopefully the senate blocks this BS.

    • +1

      These jokers will do what they do best: Raise a stinky-fart filled thought-bubble, cop a hiding in the media and perform another backflip.
      Then trot the Communications minister out to claim "I fixed it!".

      What's the opposite of The Midas Touch? These ***** have it.

    • -1

      Some food for thought, and interested in your opinion.

      Take google. Google sells advertising services, and they're good. They're good because they have the best advertising system in the market. When people pay good money to advertise with google, its because their system is better than others.
      Google is an american company. Lets say that googlw developed their software in america. Now from the above, to me people pay money to Google partially because their software is really good - is it fair that the Americans get a slice of the income generated in other countries like Australia? It is after all a return on the costs of the software, costs that were spent in america.

      Interested in your opinions.

  • +3

    I have no problem with it. To be honest Netflix should be charging GST as they are offering a specific product just to Australia. It's not like there's just one international Netflix service you sign up to, you get a specific AU service with content targeted here.

    • By targeted, you mean less content…

      So people would just use the USA netflix if this happens..and it would give them more content..

      • +3

        In all fairness the Content will get better over time. The reason that content in limited is due to current contract in place with other broadcasters.

      • +4

        It's not about less or more and making that argument is a strawman. The rights need to be procured specifically for the Australian market. If they are targeting a product specifically for the Australian market then yes they should pay GST.

        If on the other hand, if people were jumping onto the US product then no GST shouldn't be paid because the product is specifically the US and US tax laws should apply.

  • +7

    This hokey guy s an idiot..

  • +11

    This government's been nothing but bad news. First the NBN thing, next the data retention and now this. Not including other stuff like $6Gp expenses and stuff.

    • Dont forget they also tried to deregulate university fees so every uni student would be paying a lot more $$$ for their degree.

      • +1

        You seem to forget that the current system is not sustainable. The University Chancellors even said that deregulation was required to keep Universities viable.

    • +1

      @Ryxxi

      Medicare is not sustainable in its current form. Australians average 11 trips to GPs each year. This is much more than the average of 3 trips back in the 90's.
      Many People abuse the system also. They go to the doctors for a common cold or to talk to the doc because they're lonely.

      • +1

        We also have an aging population, which means more doctor visits. That is also why pension age is increasing.

      • Totally agree, whenever they roll out the 'fairness' argument in parliament it normally means that the opposition knows it adds up but they don't want to miss the opportunity to toss an emotional but unaffordable hand grenade to the electorate!

  • +2

    Just another way for the government to stick their filthy fingers in our pockets. Disgusting.
    Welcome to Australia - the land of tax, upon tax, upon tax.

  • +3

    With the introduction of Netflix and others. Foxtel can't compete and are losing market dhare. So what does Rupert Murdoch do? Calls up fat hockey to introduce tax to regain market share….politics is a dirty business $$$

  • +4

    you only need to look at Edward Snowden's revelations to understand that big cooperations run the country.

    Just read this article written back in 2013…So much of the points have become reality! especially ABC and Foxtel
    http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/08/30/election-iou-how-will-ru…

    • +1

      Thanks for posting, but most folks can't think back more than last week.

      And sadly, most of these same idiots believe the media's narrative that Snowde nis the bad guy. :(

    • +1

      I think it was well understood that the owners of capital through profit, interest and rent run the country. It was revealed by Karl Marx.

  • They can do this…but it'll still be cheaper than buying stuff here.

  • +5

    This is what happens when you vote liberals

    • I am not a liberal supporter but fact is that labour voted for the data retention laws as well so they are not any better in my books.

      • Data retention isn't a bad thing if you have nothing to hide

        • Until the government decides that not only can't you criticise the government when you work for them, but like North Korea, you can't criticise the government (because you wouldn't then be part of team Australia). Then they will be after you for your comment above.

        • @valour: relax we live in Australia.

    • +1

      @extremist

      And look at the mess you created by voting Labor.

      • Not really, look at how much USA is in debt and they're doing just fine.. Debt isn't always a bad thing.. Forget your surplus dreams..

        • The US currently has a far more diversified economy than Australia with many large companies producing all kinds of goods and services, such as Boeing, GE, VISA, Exxon, Google, Apple, Microsoft to name but a few. They also don't need to spend most of their tax dollars keeping an abused welfare and medicare system.

      • +1

        It appears that Labor's mess isn't quite as bad as the Liberals. http://www.crikey.com.au/2015/02/03/remember-labors-skyrocke…

        • +1

          I wouldn't trust crikey to sway my opinions on anything.

  • +1

    At the last federal election, a "Financial review" paper was released 3 or 4 days before the election.

    The last item, the very bottom line were the words [or similar] to "GST review" which seemed to mean that they GST was fair game and open to an increase of whatever.

    On the saturday following the release of the review [only a few days later], the majority of Australian voters voted for the review and also cancellation of the fibre to the premises NBN and a few other things.

    It would seem that the majority of Australian voters wanted the current situation to happen.

    Dont blame me, i voted labor

    • +1

      I didn't vote Liberal or Labour but I preferenced Liberal to be dead last based on their policies, but I can see that most Australians voted for Liberal because of Leadership not Policies. I bet most of those voters regret their decision now.

      • -1

        I voted liberals based on their policies and i'm very happy with what they've done. I was ecstatic seeing the back of KRudd and Gillard. If anything i am a bit disappointed that most of Abbott's good work has been blocked by single issue senators. I would vote for Tony again tomorrow!

  • +1

    Would be impossible to implement this, unless posting you a seperate invoice, and things just got over inflated and now this, what a good government we Australians have, nice one Toney!

  • I remember a previous forum on this subject: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/176533#comment
    The only change seems to be the word Netflix. Hockey was going to wait until after the next election in 2016 before changing the GST.
    Australian Customs have been ready for such a change since June 2014 and it can be implemented quickly. Mike Baird the NSW Premier seems to be pushing now for the GST threshold on overseas online purchases to become $30, so that NSW will get more GST dollars.
    If they do this before the next election, it will be goodbye Tony.

    • They will lose anyway so they will push it through while they have the chance.

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