Intel NUC Celeron N2820 2.5 SSD HDMI PC BOXDN2820FYKH0
I want to replace my old core2duo Dell desktop in the lounge room with something small, low power and quiet.
I'm hoping this will do the trick but, not sure if it is worth it with the cost of the extras. Like disk and RAM.
I know there is a lot of talk about the 2800 series CPU.
Postage is free in deals according to the post from the Rep.
what is with mums and BOM website?
I would guess: http://www.bom.gov.au/
Oh, you're asking what the dealio is with hanging around the BOM site? I'm on there pretty often, though more so in winter checking the rain radar maps.
Meteorology, every mom's dream job.
So even when you're 60, she can phone you up to tell you get in out of the rain…
So wait for a better price?
with the dollar like it is, it's probably not going to get much better than this for a while. It's just not a fantastic price. If you need one now, grab it, and you won't be being ripped off. If you have no pressing need, or one of the options below are more suitable (pipo, i3 NUC etc), then probably hold off this unit.
Thanks. Yep held off. Nothing at home is broken right now, so no issue.
Some other options at same/similar price
http://staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?price-min=120&q=i…
Watch out as some require special 1.35v memory
p== - Bang Bang! These make great little boxes for the living room. Not sure if the price is good or not though. Depending on the model, your core2duo is probably just as powerful if not more so than the celeron in this. But what makes these so good is the compact little size.
This is way more power efficient tho
True, but compared to what he has is the energy saving going to add up to the price of this. Something to consider.
Thanks guys. Yes I am not so interested in getting a device that is no better than the one I've got just to save the power - until it dies of course.
I suppose it would eventually pay for itself in power savings though?
good piece of kit, not a bargain price though, http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=DN2820FYKH0…
Postage to Adelaide is $10.95 versus $15 for PCCG so there's a couple of dollars' saving there :)
It is a pity they don't do it with one of the four core Celerons. The price difference would be very little.
Not technically a NUC, but on the link they have this: Gigabyte Brix Ultra Compact PC Kit Celeron J1900
J1900 is a quad core.
Would this be suitable for a plex media server playing big 3d mkvs etc? Thanks.
Probably not 3D but possibly. I have an i5 model. It's amazing!
Same with win 8.1 powerdvd for 3D ISO's and xbmc for movies/TV
do you mean server or client or both? it's not a hugely grunty CPU, so it wouldn't be a very good server if your client somewhere else needed the server to transcode as it sends the file to the client. If the client doesn't need transcoding, then the CPU will be fine, as there's barely any effort involved in sending data as is. Your bottleneck there will be putting enough storage on it (internal 2.5" HDD, or maybe an external usb3 hdd).
the GPU is not totally weak, but is intergrated, so isn't going to be anything too fancy. As a client it can easily play 2D 1080p .mkv h.264 files. But it got a little bit stuttery in some scenes in a 10bit file I tried, and I haven't tried 3D as I don't have a 3D tv.
Plex server? Yes if you don't need to transcode, but you'd need to add storage.
Much better as a client I'd think.
Ah ok. It seems a bit overkill as a client for me with chromecast and a phone existing. I'm look for a client and server for sure, what's the smallest thing that could handle both? I don't need it for anything else and I've got hard drives already.
Just need a nice low power server really.
transcoding required? or does the chromecast natively play the formats your files are in? if transcoding required, I'd get an i5 something. If you just want something that can hold a lot of HDDs internally, I'd get a HP N54L (and I did). I have celeron NUC as client, and HP N54L as my server.
What you really want is a NAS. The Synology DS415 Play - https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS415play - would be what I'd be buying if I didn't already have a DS414j.
@salem:
This is a good option - microservers are pretty tidy little NAS boxes!
For a server you should consider transcoding (both for non native format playback, and also for sending remote if you're roaming and don't have a bit upload bandwidth). If you don't need that, a low end NUC should have the grunt for server or client, but limited by physical drives. But a cheap external drive or two may be fine for you.
But if you need transcoding, try an i5 or i7 model.
I've an N40L and its no good for plex transcoding, plex playing is ok though.
Its strange, seems to want to transcode everything its sending through to the browsers on my network, when they are windows machines which should have no problem playing native.
Kinda defeats the purpose of having a tiny PC if you plug in a couple of external drives though! ;)
I appriciate all the input. I had looked into a Synology, but one capable of transcoding you are looking at $700 without the hard drive cost by which point I may as well build a full fledged PC. Transcoding totally is required, I'm currently using my laptop as a server, but don't think it's a long term solution. A mass of HD space isn't too important. The HP N54L looks like a good option, but people do seem to say it struggles with big files.
@magicmoose:
Totally agree, hence 'may be fine for you' :)
I have a 4RU server with a HT quad core xeon, so a pipo should (hopefully) be a great client, as would a NUC I expect. I can use up to 6 cores when transcoding :o
A microserver is a good compromise for a smallish server though, and good value.
@klownz: i think there's settings in both the plex server and the plex clients for telling it not to transcode. you want 'direct play' or something like that.
Thanks. I've had a play and the way it was structured seemed to be direct play if possible otherwise transcode. I don't recall a hard 'no transcoding' setting, but will take another look.
@klownz: check the server AND the client, that's where I came unstuck I think when I was using it. I had it set in one, but not the other….
this is not worthy at all. search Pipo X7 in google. you will get much more better device with approx AUD130.
the pipo doesn't seem too have replaceable ram or internal storage, so you're stuck with 2gb ram and 32gb internal storage for OS. It's also an atom CPU, vs a celeron, which…I must admit I'm not too sure on the differences these days.
For what I use MY NUC for, the pipo would indeed have been the better choice. Well, probably. I am not convinced of the GPU performance :) But for other uses, maybe not so much.
generally, I agree your point. All it is about what you are going to use this little box for.
just a little correction, Celeron N2820 is also Atom Architacture, and it is the last generation of ATOM. pipo's CPU is at least 2X of Celeron N2820.
Seriously? The pipo is more powerful? Or is this 'depends on what you use it for again"?
The NUC has USB 3.0 port, gigabit ethernet, intel Wireless-N 7260BN (with bluetooth). You can also put your own SSD or hard drive in this.
Pipo X7 is inferior. The CPU in Pipo X7 is an Atom processor, this NUC is a Celeron.
Celeron N2820 is dual core ATOM.
Benchmark score:
Intel Celeron N2820 - 1003
Z3736F - 918
Source: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/midlow_range_cpus.html
Come on, the USB 3.0, gigabit ethernet, and a REAL SATA port. Celeron NUC simply is better. RAM is upgradable too in NUC too. You cannot upgrade Pipo X7 to have USB 3 or gigabit ethernet.
Price wise, the quoted prices for both devices are not that great to be honest.
Its an OK box, just remember the CPU can't take much, so processing can take that little bit longer.
These sort of boxes are starting to come out now with free Windows with Bing and everything ready to roll for not much more.
Still a good deal though.
It's a celeron, still good but not the best to do the dirty work if you are going to use as Desktop.
This NUC only consumes at most 10 watts of power when playing back 1080p content. That's ridiculously power efficient.
These were $135 at CPL computers at one time, I'm holding out for that deal again
Briefly. I missed out, so have ordered the pipo box. Still be fine as a client (hope it can steam stream too)
Can you get openelec for pipo?
I assume so, but still don't have it yet - was a preorder.
Anyone else who ordered a week or two back got theirs yet??
These work great as a Plex Server, XBMC/Kodi media player, and general day to day web browsing/torrenting/usenet box. Pair it with a NAS and you've got a fantastic low power media setup.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/174367 this is so much better. Current price is not as good as before but still better than op's deal
Complete system with windows 8.1, faster processor, 4 usb3.0, 2 usb2.0, 6gb4 ssd. It can cater for another ssd/2.5" hard drive if needing extra capacity
Spend $10 more on www.ozbargain.com.au/node/171271, your machine will have 4gb ram.
I just recently replaced my full Windows 8.1 WMC HTPC with one of these (Same price $159 @ PCCG) running OpenELEC 5.0 as I didn't need the WMC integration any more. I'm hugely surprised at how good this is for the price.
Fast booting (20~ seconds from a slow old USB stick), fluid interface, built in IR which worked out of the box with my MCE remote and Harmony 650 and the ability to play full BD-ISO's with DTS-HD/Dolby TrueHD is awesome.
The NUC I got from PCCG was also the Celeron N2830 which has Intel Quicksync for offloading video decoding, don't know if this one is the older 2820 or not.
For 200 you can get a used i5 notebook on ebay with better configuration. I am sure you would be better off with that.
I have a notebook under my receiver with the lid closed and it does the job just perfectly
Snap. My notebook is also under your receiver, and I don't think that you've even noticed.
Thanks OP for the post.
If possible, please update your post:
For Free shipping on the Intel NUC (your order), purchase any of the options on the promotion page
Cheers
SE
Done
i use one of these for video editing. Encoding takes about 1 week per 10 min of full HD video.
Really waiting for some new deals on the higher end.. Intel D34010WYKH :(
Yep, same here. Shopping Express has a fantastic deal on the D34010WYKH NUC around mid last year for $249. I wasn't looking for an i3 NUC then. I really hope Shopping Express can knock up an i3 deal!
they have one in the promotion that this celeron NUC is part of.
http://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/view/PC-Desktop-Sale
specifically
http://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/intel-nuc-kit-i3-4010u…
it's just not that cheap compared to what you saw last year. But it is free shipping if you buy with the ram listed at the bottom of the promos page.
Thanks, i saw the i3 deal you linked to. Checking on Staticice, $350 or a few dollars less is available from various retailers. I'm not in a great rush.
Chromebox comes with faster CPU, 2GB RAM, 16 GB SSD (both upgradable). Also 4x USB3, wifi-n, BT4, display-port, lower power use, fanless.
Not currently on special, around $220 del complete (ouch! was A$150 in the Black Friday sales)
Is the ram included in free shipping?
Do these celerons still have issues with passing DTS-HD and TrueHD?
Only thing thats put me off them in the past.
EDIT: https://communities.intel.com/thread/48173
Yup still appears to be no windows management drivers. If its for a HTPC consider using Openelec (linux) or buy the i3 model.
You sure this fixes it? There is no mention on that link. Intels official position was the celeron model never supported it, was advertised incorrectly and software decoding is the "solution"
Yes. I got this form the HTPC forum. Just try it.
I run openelec xbmc on these with no issues.
Only thing they can't do is 3D bluray as no support hardware wise
I used the VESA mount to wall mount the unit behind my sons TV and worked a treat nice hidden away, remote still works as well
Make sure you update the bios before tryin to install as issues with previous bios versions not sure if new bath have updated bios or not
I got one of these in June from shopping express in a previous sale for $192.95 delivered, with 4gb of ram included ($44 for the ram).
So getting close, but not quite there. Probably exchange rate issues.
Having said that, it's been running openELEC (xbmc/kodi) flawlessly since then on a 30gb SSD I grabbed from an MSY sale (Sandisk Readycache).
I also bought one for my mum and threw windows 8.1 on a 128gb SSD. So that was a lot more expensive, but still does everything she needs, in a quiet tidy box (email, web browsing, …uhh….BOM website….)