I'm just in England visiting family and am gobsmacked at their speeds! 35Mb/s DL! They are on fibre optic to the street and copper from the house.
My whole infrastructure is copper cabling…I'm getting under 3Mb/s.
So what speed difference did you guys notice?
I don't understand the format you're using to measure your speeds - 50/20 = 50Mb/s Up, 20Mb/s down?
I've never heard of Ethernet Over Power either…
50 down/20 up
With Optic Fibre to the house you get what you pay for.. If you want 50/20, you'll have 50/20, not "up to" 50mbps down with no guarantee of the upload spoeed at all as we're getting with the Multi Technology Mix NBN.
Your English family have essentially the same technology as you'll get here with the MTM NBN.
Sure, it's better than what we have now but fibre to the house isn't that much more expensive, and offers guaranteed speeds, symmetrical upload/download capability, doesn't die when it rains and wont need to be replaced within 5 years of completion.
Ethernet over power is only relevant to the internal connections in the house.. the speed at the router is 50/20.
pretty much this, even though my internal network isn't as fast as my router connection and subsequent internet connection, I still receive the maximum throughput all the time which is far, far greater than what I was getting on ADSL.
I just assumed we were using the Mb/s standard since you used it in your main post and it seems to be the standard usage at this point, especially pertaining the the NBN which is currently speed limited to 100/40.
3 years ago when I was on Telstra Cable I got 30 down.
On Telstra 4G I can easily get 60 down and 30 up.
The speed difference you're seeing has nothing to do with 'copper' or 'fibre' cabling. It sounds like you're a little bit far from your exchange, and this is affecting your ADSL/2 maximum bandwidth/synch speed.
Just to put it into perspective, I'm on Optus Cable [which is 'copper'] and I can get 40mbit/sec download stable off local sites. The Extreme version [also on 'copper'] is closer to 100mbit/sec download.
In summary, it's got very little to do with what format it gets to your house - providing the format is of good quality - but more about where you live, what the congestion on the network is, and other factors that you're less likely to be able to change :)
Cable is Hybrid Fibre Coax, essentially it's a form of FTTN.
Fibre to a node and then copper to the house.
As such, the speeds you get are definitely related to the delivery format to the house. If your Optus Cable was a 5Km length of coaxial copper, like your phone line proabbly is, you wouldn't get anywhere near the speeds you see.
Yeah, I know there's other factors in play - I'm about 5kms (a bit less) from the exchange, but used to live a fair bit closer and only got 4.75 down, albeit reasonably steadily.
I live in an older-people area, where not too many appear to have the Internet connected.
I JUST scrape by being able to game on the speeds I currently get, but it's really not ideal…
In your opinion, whenever the NBN rolls out to my place, what speeds do you think I could realistically get, given current speeds and infrastructure (I understand it's only a best guess scenario, but I'm curious what you reckon)
The answer is that no-one knows what speeds you'll get… not even NBNCo!
Assuming you have no Cable TV cable down your street, you're likely to get FTTN. And it depends how far away from the Node Cabinet your address is (as well as the quality of copper and joins) as to how fast your connection might be capable.
If the cabinet (the size of a large family fridge) is on the verge outside your house, you're likely to get excellent speeds. If it's at the other end of that street, 400m away you're likely to get no better than 25mbps down (with no guarantee of upload speed), even though you'll pay the same as the bloke who gets 100mbps cause the Cabinet is in his front yard.
If you do have Cable TV cable down your street, you'll get NBN through that.. Once again no-one knows how fast it will be cause it's a shared technology.. ie connection speeds are great on cable when only you are connected to it, but when everyone else connects, you share the speed with them…
As a result, speeds on cable today are not speeds we'll see on cable in 5 years time, because at the moment, only a small percentage of the population is connected to the cable. This could change, but it will mean NBNCo will have to add a whole heap of extra nodes to reduce the number of people each copper cable is shared with.
Finally, you might be lucky and the copper is so degraded in your area that it's unsuitable for FTTN.. in which case, NBNCo will likely drop your area to the bottom of the upgrade list and eventually roll out FTTH. So in the short term you lose, but in the long term you win.
amazing, I am using an ethernet over power system and it performs way above and beyond an ADSL service even with the limited bandwidth to the router, I am on 50/20 and receive a constant 40/20 connection. Of course not receiving 50/20 has to do with my ethernet over power, plugging directly into the router or NTD gives me the full if not close to full speed. Before all my applications using internet would lose connection if I attempted to upload something and being able to download at a consistent fast speed is awesome.