Hey bargain heads,
Do u use any, do they actually work as they advertise? would you able please recommend worth of using.
Cheers
Hey bargain heads,
Do u use any, do they actually work as they advertise? would you able please recommend worth of using.
Cheers
http://www.thebodyshop.co.uk/mens/best-sellers.aspx#/best-se…
pretty much everything listed here
Those are skincare products, rather than cosmetics imo. I thought you were referring to cosmetics like foundation, eyeliner, lipstick!
It's a marketing term in my personal opinion. If it is good for your skin, then it should be good for your skin regardless of your sex. More than often, those "men's cosmetics" like aftershave, has tonnes of alcohol which irritates/damages skin.
maybe, but they have different concentration of chemical or bi-products used for different gender's cosmetics, do u use any, for any purpose?
Is there any reason why you'd want to use those? What I meant was, why are you interested in skin-care stuff?
I feel like my skin is deteriorating, probably because of not enough nutrition, vitamin's, etc., so finding what are other alternate means of strengthening the skin texture.
probably because of not enough nutrition, vitamin's, et
Eat better and exercise, and if you are doing any sort of drugs or smoking stop it immediately. If you are pale then stay out of the sun or wear sunscreen, and if you have dry skin slap on some Cetaphil lotion.
What he said would probably improve your skin more than anything. If you want to take steps further then:
Wear sun-screen when you go out in the sun
Wash your face with stuff that doesn't irritate your skin
Use skin care products that doesn't irritate your skin
etc etc
Though the type of skin care product that you are looking at would really depend on what your skin is like.
@scrimshaw: I don't exercise often, but the food is really messed up can't control the carvings :p do u have any recommendations for oily skin?
The link that he gave is fairly thorough.
BHA is said to improve the skin condition by removing dead skin cells clogging up the pores etc etc, I have to warn you that the process of your skin recovering takes a long time. It depends on people too. Me and someone I knew both went onto BHA and skin care stuff, because my face was getting covered in pimples and stuff from shift works and instant noodles. I started jogging as well. It took me 3 months before I started noticing differences. Other person unfortunately gave up after 4 months.
Also using BHA doesn't mean you are not going to get pimples, but rather it improves skin conditions. Also BHA technically removes a layer of protection for your skin, dead cells, so if you are going to use BHA, you really should wear sunscreen.
PH Isohex for cleansing
http://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/product.asp?id=7120&pname…
Cetaphil moisturizing lotion
http://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/product.asp?id=58962&pnam…
I didn't use BHA exfoliant but many people recommend Paula's choice BHA exfoliant products. I however went with a more extreme version which is Men's Biore Facial Foam which is a physical exfoliant, brought over from Singapore. BHA is probably better.
and when I had super pimples (extremely bad case) I went on Roaccutane. This is based on isotretinoin (derivative of Vitamin A) and it's prescribed by a dermatologist. Talk to your derma if you feel you have bad acne.
@scrimshaw: I use BHA 2% lotion variant… well technically variant of variant because of stupid commercial laws in Korea, but shouldn't really matter in this case. I thoroughly recommend those since my skin did improve heaps after few months. Though be fair, it really must've been the combination of exercise, good food and skin care products.
If pimples are your problem, dermatologists I've heard gets rid of the problems faster than anything you can get your hand on.
Most aftershaves use denatured alcohol or witch hazel. It's used to prevent infection BUT dries up your skin as they are both astringents (draws out water). Use too much of it and you will have crappy facial skin and lots of wrinkles.
good to know, cheers
If you're using face lotions and washes or such, avoid ones that have peppermint / menthol extract (which acts as a frangrance) because this stuff is an irritant for many people.
Salicylic Acid is also another kind of anti-acne ingredient — avoid this as well unless you have a reason to be using it, e.g you have acne and skin is oily
This site summarizes briefly what sort of product you should use, depending on skin type.
http://www.skincare-addiction.com/skintype
Though wouldn't chemical exfoliants be beneficial to skin? Just curious.
EDIT: I am referring to BHA and AHA products. Just clarifying, not referring to those physical ones in some cleansers.
@AznMitch: even i'm thinking of the same.
None of those look like 'cosmetics' to me, just regular skin care products. With the exception of the eye wrinkle remover, the aftershave and lip creams are all skin-care stuff.
This is cosmetics.
If you want to learn how to take care of your skin, regardless of your gender go to the Skincare addiction subreddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/
If you are interested in buying or using Asian beautifying products (as a lot of Japanese Korean and Chinese produce a crap ton of the stuff and there are lots of brands and types to wade through) see the Asian Beauty subreddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/AsianBeauty/
I might have interpreted the word "cosmetics" wrong, title changed accordingly thanks
It is called marketing and you are being sucked into the void……
''It is called marketing and you are being sucked into the void…''
too true … 1.keep out of the sun—— 2. use just water on face
I use a mixture of oil, grease, dirt and lion's blood to keep up my manly appearance.
I used to use camouflage paint, sweat and dirt!
You mean camos specially designed for skin? (Before you ask, yes, there are products like that)
Seriously? I used to use the horrible stuff the Army issued us with, hated it with a passion! It was free and I think the later stuff had sunscreen built into it. It was thick and hard to put on and it used to get into every pore. 3 weeks after getting back from bush there was still green stuff seeping out of pores. Every collar in the wardrobe had a green tinge to it!
…I heard rumours that they use pork fat for the standard issue ones in Korea. Though it's better than what my dad had. They apparently used charcoal crushed and mixed with water for the black colour. After the training, I literally spent 10 minutes getting that stupid stuff off. I could see water droplets forming on my skin, made me think, yeah, it's going to kill my skin. They obviously thought it was not enough and put me on the gas chamber with CS gas on the next day.
There are civilian companies making those in Korea that apparently works just as decent as the standard issue ones, but better for your skin.
@AznMitch: I've no idea what was in the stuff and frankly, I was probably better off not knowing.
I have used charcoal and boot polish before, the boot polish was dreadful. The green cam paint initially came in green tubular bars like a thick lipstick, later it came in a little compact case with a mirror on the underside of the lid with 3 colours inside. We used to have to put it on every morning after shaving off yesterday's batch. After 2 days the razor was clogged with green cam paint. After a month in the bush shaving was a painful exercise, particularly when you had to rub the next day's cam paint into the bleeding wounds the the blunt razor blade made…..ah fun times! After we all got back and scrubbed off the cam paint we all still had green tinges on our face as all of the pores in the skin were clogged with the paint, neck and nose seemed to be the worst affected.
Wow, I feel your pain. I couldn't stand using those products for like 2 days as part of my boot camp. :S
Those civilian ones look ridiculously good though. Ok, hear this out.
Aloe extracts on the green, rice extract on the white, charcoal extracts on black, ginseng extract on the brown for one product I found.
There was another which apparently used coconut oil, olive oil and grape seed oil.
@2ndeffort: I'll second that. They told us during training that the stuff is carcinogenic and to get our own ASAP.
Expensive but worth it.
I used to use this then I discovered OZBargain so have to make do with Coconut Oil.
I use soap.
I use dishwashing detergent, it's cheaper. Oh wait, we've already done that thread…
lel, I remember that thread :P
When you mentioned skincare I thought you were referring to all over. Other than sun damage, stretch marks and skin conditions or allergies I don't think I'd even notice skin quality in non-wrinkled, agespotless skin.
Acne's one of those face-dominant conditions that messes with your mind. You spend your younger years worrying about facial oiliness, scar prevention and hormone spikes and when acne tapers off in the later years you vex about maintaining moisture, obscuring old scars and declining hormone levels. If you want to cure one ailment just find another.
Growing a beard if you can also helps protect the skin from sunlight and dryness - but then what's the point if you can't show off your skin anymore. Like wearing a thick shiny slathering of sunscreen on your face during the day with cream collected at your hair roots so you'll look good at night.
I saw a 70 year old looking man walking with an open umbrella on a sunny day just last week. Maybe he was 90 so it's never too late to start caring.
ROFL, are you a man or should you get back in the kitchen? Real men don't do skincare.
So what do real men do exactly?
real men do skincare, if they want to, regardless of what others think of them :)
dream on, a day in future ull remember this discussion about caring skin.
I just use natio products, they seem to work quite well and are quite cheap. I think the big thing is sun exposure, so if you are able to consistently use sunscreen, you will be fine. A lot of the damage seems to happen in the teens and early 20's btw. So if you are out in the sun heaps, and also drinking a lot and having huge late nights and not getting rehydrated afterwards, that's going to affect things too.
I've been using Olay anti ageing cream since I was 12 years old, I am 30 now and I always get told by many people I look 20.
So yeah I'll f****n take that any day :)
Boy, aren't you something!
You'd get the exact same effect by using just sunscreen. There's no magical anti aging ingredients.
thumbs up.
I use the Mrs moisturiser cream after a day at beach on face / shoulders. That's about as far as I've ever gone. A healthy diet and cool showers are the way to go.
I just use the Aldi Lacura face scrub which is really good stuff. Then follow it up with some moistureser (not really fussy, Cetaphil and Vaseline are both good).
Cosmetics, no. Sunscreen is the only thing that will slow skin aging. It also reduces the risk of skin cancer. Use it!
For everything else, watch this video, courtesy of the ABC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuDrbc-2k-M
Skincare products are BS, and many do more harm then good, granted some are just ok but still overpriced crap in a bottle. Just fix your diet, eat more fruits, nuts and veggies and keep your skin and body clean and it will do more for your skin than any skin care product ever will.
Well, that is a partially correct statement regarding overpriced stuff but it's not just your diet that can acne / blackheads / wrinkles, for the most part whether you have beautiful or crappy skin is down to your genetics and what you inherited from your parents, as well as your environment (e.g sunlight exposure, air pollution, the bacteria on your face etc)
johnson&johnson have this "orange" face wash that has all sorts of good stuff in it. I use it everyday in the shower to keep the junk out of my pores. I did also use cetaphil and all that stuff though when I was younger and suffering from acne, so consider your needs.
Use St Ives facial scrubs from Coles - usually on special for $7-99 or something
Great for ages since its course
Sometimes use moisturizer and always use sun screen for the rare occassion in melbourne we get sun
Sunscreen. Protecting your skin from damage is really the only way to maintain a "youthful appearance", unless you got lucky in the genetics department.
I'm a little surprised that it took marketers so long to start marketing skin care and anti-ageing products to men. I guess there are more effeminate, vain men around now than in the past so it's an easier sell.
I find that sentiment surprises, because the men in the 20th century paid far more attention to appearance than men today. Regular appointments at the barber, wearing suits, those slickback hairstyles of the 1950's that had them carrying a comb around all the time? Men in the past where definitely more vain/effeminate than today.
Now, insecure and easily hoodwinked, thats something today's men might have the lead on.
I think the difference is that back then there was an emphasis on presentation and appearance. Being properly shaven, groomed, and appropriately dressed might have been a result of a more disciplined and strict society. Wandering around, poorly dressed and groomed, might not only have gotten you a bad reputation but it might have even attract the interest of the police.
Men in those times might have shown vanity, but being effeminate was the exact opposite of what they wanted to be viewed as. Being effeminate today might get a few whispers from people with little else to do, back then you'd probably be beaten up.
I entirely agree with your hoodwinked comment, though. It seems many men are just as willing to accept the entirely uncorroborated and unscientific claims of the cosmetic industry as quickly as women are. Who said men were smarter? :p
I wash myself with turpentine like a real man.
Should quanitfy my YES with… when its free/gifted…
Nivea feels good, but I get a lot of 'chemicals' response from this in the 'know'
I believe Olay is probably the best
I use Paula's Choice (www.paulaschoice.com.au) and ONLY Paula's choice. Science and research based. They have a mens kit, pricey, but it works, and why pay for substandard stuff which does not work? Its online only, but in a pinch QV Face is a good standby. BTW - Men don't need different skin care products, that just whitewash marketing, like most of industry.
In short. Wear sunscreen every day, wear a hat, get a good amount of sleep. That is the best defense.
And exercise/sweat. Oh and sunglasses too, the glare induced frowning apparently causes a more permanent or deeper frown line.
Try tvsn.com.au they do sales often. Ciencia is pricey even in bundle packs but works. Nourish is mostly organic and pricey. SKINN is affordable.
Cleanse/exfoliate, tone and moisterise. Stay away from harsh cheap chemicals and fillers like PG, SLS, PEG, parabens and fragrances.
Most at Priceline etc list water/aqua as first ingredient, so pretty much buying water with some cheap stuff mixed in and heavily advertised. Celeb endorsements aren't cheap.
If your interested in products, then check out http://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia. Find something that you like the sound of and see if it works for you. All skin is different, and different products work for different people. Do some research, and you will find a routine that works for you. There is a lot of junk science, organic greenwash, marketing, hype, hearsay, baloney blogs, and full-on-fud that makes skincare harder for fella's. Good luck!
Just eat well and you should not have to use cosmetics most of the time.
And exercise. Diet that is right for you and sweat. Having good genes helps too ;-p
Ah Paula Begoun! Author of that massive book my sister has 'Don't Go To The Cosmetics Counter Without Me' http://www.fishpond.com.au/Books/Dont-Go-to-Cosmetics-Counte…
950 pages for $34
http://www.fishpond.com.au/c/Books/a/Paula+Begoun
Cosmetic Cop. Strange how the PC website doesn't mention the book, thought I'd heard that name just wasn't sure if it was that book.
Get $10 off first order when you susbscribe. Also $15 off for $75 spend. 9 items on special, only around 20% off http://www.paulaschoice.com/shop/on-sale/
A chemical engineer once said if you wouldn't eat it why would you put it on your skin?
And if you wouldn't put it on a baby why would you put it on you?
So might look into trying this one: http://www.paulaschoice.com/shop/collections/Earth-Sourced/
Yikes the Australian page says $92 or $81 but it's only $65 or $58 overseas. Rip off. More by 30%. Australia tax again. Best to do a large $200 order to cover shipping to Australia, via a 3rd party since they wouldn't allow International shipping.
I'd use sunscreen daily IF it wasn't so greasy feeling and made my face shiny - any recommendations for a sunscreen that isn't noticeable?
I like Banana Boat BABY as it is about 90% less shine and no cheap smell.
Also, for after showering and at night before bed use Sorbolene unperfumed for the same reason, on the body arms and legs, neck etc, very little 'smell' - recommended by dermatologists. Everyone should moisturise their skin. When you get old you will be glad you looked after it.
Yup, my mum used moisturizer every night and at her age now, people think she is about 15yrs younger than her age.
Use a ph balanced cleanser to wash face to avoid drying out skin and looking wrinkly quickly. You can get cheap stuff like cetaphil which is occasionally half price at woolies/coles. If I was rich I'd use dermalogica.
I believe in taking care of myself, and a balanced diet and a rigorous exercise routine.
In the morning, if my face is a little puffy, I'll put on an ice pack while doing my stomach crunches. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion.
In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial masque which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine.
I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
water activated lol
well you need water to froth it up don't you think………….
When I was younger I used a lot of products but now use none & have great skin.
The main aspects that will have an impact on your skin are sleep, water, diet & exercise. I also enjoy using the sauna at least x5 a week & found it excellent for my skin.
have adult acne which is hormones to blame; I use Paulaschoice to manage all that oil, blackheads, highly recommend their BHA's for chemical exfoliation - i find mechanical exfoliation i.e. facial scrubs cause too much irritation and make me breakout. A good forum to checkout is acne.org
Theres a current deal here for free shipping and 20% off your order if your interested, https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/181617
Thanks trevordd, will followup
my husband keeps using them after i bought him vaseline. you can have a try, it is good. we both use it now.
define cosmetics