These cards are just lovely. And if you're keen to get your hands on a pack of 12, just enter your name and email address, plus 2 other friends - and Mooo will send you out a pack. They're valued at $29. PLUS there's free delivery. This freebie just keeps on getting better.
If you're wanting more like I do, then you can get 24 just by adding a couple more of your friends' details.
Yeh and good for all occasions!
Why not!
:D
yay lets get more spam email and not only that, redirect spam to our friends email.
nice massari. genius.
agree with massari. lots of whingers in ozbargain.
There are heaps of free temp email addresses you could use.
also agreeing with massari. Honestly people are fussy AND whingers.
Just set up a separate account for "offers" until you're sure you like the company then you can update them to your real email address! pfft hasn't anyone heard of "no such thing as a free lunch" - deal with a small inconvenience if you want a freebie.
Just to clarify everyone's concern about spam, this is from the T&C.
"We don't share your details with anyone and you can unsubscribe at any time. Your friends will not be automatically subscribed."
Just want to tell you that if you receive spam email from unknown source and there's an unsubscribe link, I suggest that you just ignore that one instead of clicking the Unsubscribe link because most of the time it'll be like "Yes I confirm that my email address exist, please unsubscribe me on this site and let me join another 0903920394343 mail list in ur network"
Nice offer tho. :)
Since when being honest (even to a anonymous competition) is considered dumb (or not smart).
firstly i'm an honours comp sci graduate.
secondly, not everyone uses Gmail and there is NO such thing as spam-free email, it does not exist because it is impossible to implement for every 'black listed' DNS on the internet as they can be replicated and reproduced with dummy IPs.
thirdly, as stated below:
“Yes I confirm that my email address exist, please unsubscribe me on this site and let me join another 0903920394343 mail list in ur network”
This occurs more often than you think and you have NO way of finding out whether clicking unsubscribe just signed you up on 10 more spam mail lists. Use your brain.
fourth, adding to junk filter does not guarantee spam-free mail. once again for reasons aforementioned.
fifth. you lose.
What well adjusted adult goes around saying
"fifth. you lose" ???
Really, time for a personality overhaul.
You come over as a jerk.
@King Tightarse: king tightarse. what are you my wife?
last time I checked I don't owe you anything.
LOL Comp Sci Graduate.. nuff said.. cough
@massari: read the post below mine wayward.
massari, I graduated from the University of Melbourne. Please.
All of them perfectly valid points. I personally hate promotions that require you sharing your friends' contact details!
Err, it's not spam if you sign up for it and part of the terms and conditions are that they can send you emails.
@noyesmaybeok: the question is how many emails. do they state that? volume of emails sent to your inbox is a big factor and constitutes spam. not telling you that = spam.
also I think the point is, obtaining email addresses is an untraceable address book that can be forwarded to other third parties without you knowing AT ALL.
@forlorn: They don't have to state how many. It could be one a week, could be one a month. Personally I save my email list until there is something very good, else there's a ton of unsubscribes. Emailing every day isn't a good long term, which is what business is about. I think my fiancée signed up, not too sure - she hasn't got many emails off them other than the original one.
FYI, before you bitch about an email, you do know that its legal to call someone 24/7? F***'n Telstra did it to me for months and no-one would do anything about it because they're not "committing any crimes" (business line, so can't register on do not call). I would say it's harassment, but how many govt employees do you know would actually want to do their job versus blowing it off and not having to do anything. If anyone had to pick between 20 emails a day or 20 phone calls (including into the am's at night), I know which they would pick.
While yes, selling it would be illegal, you're assuming they're selling it to 3rd parties, there's no proof they're doing that.
I do not agree that sending "friends" emails is ethical (even though it's legal); however, it's not any better than all those stupid social networking sites who are "hey XYZ wants to be your friend, join now" rubbish emails that go around (even though 90% of the time I have no idea who the hell XYZ even is, got an email once from them 5 years ago and I just happen to be in their address list still). And, it's your friends who choose to input your email - so perhaps the better solution is to talk to them and tell them not to, or get better friends.
sweet! plus from me!
very good deal
Good stuff!
Yes - Massari is right - thanks to the Spam Act, every commercial email requires a functioning unsubscribe mechanism. If they don't - report them to the ACMA.
That's why I use an email specifically for these types of things - so my main email address is unaffected and I don't have to wade through 9000 spam emails.
This doesn't work as you'll undoubtedly sign up for an offer that you believe does not attract spam, which will result in spam on your main account.
Good try though Mistymoo!
@forlorn: Many people normally have another free email account for sites which require an email like Youtube, misc forums and offers (ie sites which you don't expect any important emails). So I doubt they care too much even if they get spammed in that account even after they've unsubscribed (and got signed on to 4598549 other mailing list like you said). :)
As stated it is easy to unsubscribe.
However when it comes to local companies i dont mind getting the odd email from them after signing up for something.
It makes looking for the odd product or unique gift much easier as i get info from companies who wouldnt normally email me.
mailinator.com is your friend.
another SPAM your friends offer…
I don't know - I haven't even gotten my email from them yet haha.
i got mine straight away…maybe check your junk folder
so cute hopefully i will get some
umm, will i EVER get these>??
Just asking . not so worried about the spam
Also Do u reckon ill get telemarkerter bs if i put my REAL number ?
If anyone is worried about telemarketers. If, after 1month you are receiving calls, take note of who they are and complain, and they will get a fine or something lol
Is the question will you receive it? Shipping does take some time. The email they sent me stated it will be shipped in 14 days, then another 2-4 days for the actual shipping. So I would say 3 weeks max?
A business you have had previous dealings is allowed to call you.
In this case Mooo can freely call you unless you explicitly tell them you do not want to be called.
When can a business still call?
A business can still call you if it has your consent to do so.
Consent can either be given expressly, for example, by ticking a box on a form agreeing to receive calls, or it may be inferred. Inferred consent is where it is reasonable for a business to believe, on the basis of its relationship with a person and their conduct, that the person is willing to receive its calls. For example, if you hold an account with a bank, the bank could infer that you are willing to receive calls about its products and services.
Even if you have previously consented to receive calls from a business, you are able to withdraw your consent at any time by asking the business not to contact you again.
ahh thanks for pointing that out =]
@massari: respond to my comments massari. you're getting proven wrong left, right and centre.
stop posting if you don't know what you're talking about mate.
@forlorn: forlorn, what's with the vendetta against massari, mate? chill, dude…people are wrong on the internet everyday. you can't kill them all. you're coming off as being a little defensive.
@soupiejr: yer sorry, got a bit worked up. one thing i hate more than people being wrong is people propagating misinformation.
so once you submit the email details it sends an email with a link to the exact same page not a page to enter postal details. What gives?
I haven't received an email yet and neither have my friends.
Same, I'm still waiting. I've actually emailed the webmaster to see if it's some kind of weird glitch!
EDIT: heard back from the webmaster who gave me a direct link which worked. Very pleased by their level of customer service so far! +1 for them!
Excellent - I'll email the webmaster.
Yes, I think there may be a glitch with some of the emails. My friend is missing the redemption email after entering friends details…
All good. Webmaster sent me the link and I also received the email this morning.
QUOTE ''Your friends will not be automatically subscribed. Please note this competition is for Australian postal addresses only.
A 12 pack of thankyou cards is worth $15.90 inc postage.
A 24 pack of thankyou cards is worth $28.90 inc postage. ''
So is this a competition or a get a free pack?
If you email 1 friend you get a 12 pack.
If you email 4 friends you get a 24 pack
+
I'm pretty sure its a get free pack.
FYI - They give you a choice of a boys or girls card pack when you go through the order process.
Sweet, works well.
"You order has been placed and we will send your order out within the next 14 days.
We have also included another gift for you in the package."
Probably nothing worth writing about, but we'll see what the 'gift' is in the package.
i 'spammed' 4 friends but still only was told i will be receiving my '12 pack'. even received an invoice today in my email that said 12 pack.
we'll see :)
I emailed the company. Let's see what happens.
Is this only me who experience this things? I had added my friends's emails twice (total 8 emails). Because at first time it said I had to put 2 more. And then I tried again with same emails (with assumption that those had been rejected) it said that the emails had been used. So I tried again for second time with 4 different emails. And then it said again that I had to put 2 more emails. And when I tried again to add 4 last emails. It said again that the emails has been used ???? so they got 8 email adresses for free. My bad…..!!
Mine went through with no issues. I entered 5 friends and now waiting for the 24 pack.
Thanks!
pnks has proven what I've been saying. shame your friends are going to get spammed.
Your friends get one email, thats all.
Hardly spam
that's how it starts
It didn't offer me the opportunity to add more after 2 friends. 12 pack.
I've been trying to find the terms and conditions of this thing, because I want to know if I can get more than one pack coz I've signed up with one email and it somehow didn't work. So I redid it again with another address and got the email finally. With some HTML skills I found out how to get to the enter your postal address page with the first email I used that I didn't receive an email. So ya anyway I thought my first attempt would go to waste if I didn't complete the form.
Oh and to those of you whining about spam, this is what they wrote on the first page in that paragraph:
We don't share your details with anyone and you can unsubscribe at any time. Your friends will not be automatically subscribed.
Oh - and the redeem button seems to still work after submitting.
SO… You can always try out to see if you'll get another pack. However, I think these stuff are human-filtered before they actually despatch them. Maybe try a different name or different address. Note that you can also change the email address on the form.
ANYWAY, I think we're really exploiting "The Fun Team At Mooo" damn I feel so bad :P They're only giving away free stuff to get a chance for us to read their newsletters that the most of us will hit the "unsubscribe" button on the first issue. And yet there's quite a few guys hatin' about getting spam from this company that seems to be making personalised kids stuff.
… or is it because of the "kids" stuff and the pretty cards that my guilty conscience makes me think this company is as innocent as a child??? LOL I think too much…
They're actually selling these cards for $1 each:
http://www.mooo.com.au/product.php?productid=17782&cat=78&pa…
And remember in the email they said they've also included an extra gift? Well I think it's the envelope sticker that costs $7.50 per pack of 24 or the envelopes at $0.40 each.
I'd rather OzBargain didn't support any schemes which create the possibility of spam going to non-consenting third parties - regardless of possible opt-out features. I hope none of my email acquaintances would ever offer my email addresses to such operators. There are work-a-rounds of using multiple email addresses of one's own - which is what the OP could have suggested, however this one still gets a big neg from me as the freebie/reward is so lame.
LOLK
100 : 1
Dude, people need to stop being so anal about spam!
Spam can be blocked, can be deleted. Can be managed. It truly isn't a big deal!!
However, you are entiled to your own opinion, and if you want to be a little sissy, so be it.
massari. being ignorant about a problem is not a solution to a problem.
as someone as suggested, nothing in this world is 'free'.
companies understand the value of obtaining email addresses (and therefore address books). I did a thesis on this topic so you should probably pay attention to people who are smarter and more knowledgeable. plus the benefit to the spammer is disproportionate to the cost borne by the spammer, which is next to nil. More importantly, the cost of Spam removal to the victims is totally disproportionate to the benefit to the spammer. In a free market economy such a grossly inefficient process should cease when property rights are enforced (i.e. the cost is borne by the the party who incurs them).
spam is a big problem because property rights are difficult or impossible to enforce which makes it hard to get rid of Spam. From the 1800s through the mid 1960s industrials considered it their right to produce and pollute with impunity. The economy could not run without their products. They could not afford to not pollute. It took over two decades of lobbying to move government and industry to another point of view. Yet these were reasonable businesses, with physical assets in the countries of their victims and subject to their legal systems. Consider the spammers in contrast. Any physical assets they may have are irrelevant to their activity, which incidentally, has no borders. They are not subject to the legal systems of their victims. If they become subject to legislation attempting to stop Spam they can find a more favorable environment in another country. The immediate effect of the new European legislation will be to force the spammers offshore rather than to stop junk email. There will be less Spam coming from European countries, but there will not necessarily be any less Spam.
spam is a big problem because of the shared resources it consumes. Internet Service Providers (ISPs) allow you to surf the Internet, and deliver your email to your email software usually for a flat monthly fee. They must, in turn, purchase bandwidth (the technical term for their own connection to the Internet). The more users they have, the more bandwidth they need. If they have very large numbers of users they may need to purchase additional servers to manage email. These costs are offset by the added revenues of a larger user base. Spam however, increases their need for bandwidth, and increases the load on their email servers with no added revenue to compensate. The added cost must be passed on to the customers, the victims of spammers trespassing on their private cyberproperty. Some very large email servers have been shut down due to Spam overload for extended periods depriving hundreds of thousands of paying customers of their emails. One leading ISP processes about 30 million email messages a day, 30% of which are Spam. The problem of Spam has reached proportions where it threatens the viability of email and of the Internet itself.
spam is a big problem because of the private resources it consumes. Many business people spend up to fifteen minutes per day reading and deleting their Spam emails. A company with 100 knowledge workers earning an average of $40,000 per year each spending ten minutes per day deleting Spam would experience an added burden of $80,000 per year. This cost would be passed on to Internet users and non-users alike as they purchase products from this company at their local department store.
spam is a big problem because of number of victims it involves. According to META Group, 5-15% of corporate email is Spam. This is expected to grow to to 15-30% in the near term. This means that the average medium-sized company receives 20,000 Spam emails per day. Taking the above example a little further, if 10 million people each lose 5 minutes a day deleting Spam, in terms of productivity, this could cost the global economy over $4 billion annually, not counting wasted bandwidth, CPU time and network administration time and tools. Based on these assumptions, the global cost of Spam may well be over $5 billion annually.
Dude, what a massive reply.
Your statement is true for most Computer Nubs in business. However, my experience on this is different.
Me, I have an account that is maybe 7 years old on hotmail. Most of this spam goes to my junk folder, and since I have moved to Gmail (which forwards my old hotmail mails) I have not received any spam, as gmail gets rid of it.
So They can play with my email all they want, and I wouldnt waste more then 10 seconds a day to click unsuscribe. Bottom line, stop thinking so deep about such a simple thing. 100 happy people cant be wrong :D
you make it sound apocalyptic. its just spam.
A company with 100 knowledge workers earning an average of $40,000 per year each
spending ten minutes per day deleting Spam would experience an added burden of $80,000 per year.
This is not a big cost.
2 staff member's wages out of 100 is not a big cost.
In NSW, a business with 100 employees has to pay useless $60,000 "Payroll Tax" to the NSW State Government's "Office Of State Revenue" for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING; this is IN ADDITION to the Business Tax every business must pay, and is only levied in NSW. How about you stop the NSW Premier from adding extra burdens to business which hurts much more than SPAM ever will?
And I can guarantee you that each worker spends LESS than 10 minutes deleting spam…more like 1-5 minutes.
Which makes it even cheaper still.
SPAM is not a big financial cost on any business. Employees in year 2009 in Australia are well educated about SPAM and just delete it.
Only unemployed idiots engage with get-rich-quick SPAM; and they deserve to get ripped off.
@alexportnoy: You realise that company's Global Address List can be sold/leaked quite easily?
It only takes one incompetent employee to cause this.
We're not talking about Payroll Tax so I'm not sure why that's relevant. It has nothing to do with SPAM.
Secondly SPAM can also be composed of spyware/malware which can easily be a more detrimental issue with email accessed over insecure connections outside of work which does not make 'even cheaper'.
The bigger the company, the bigger the burden.
"Employees in year 2009 in Australia are well educated about SPAM and just delete it."
You mean most are. At least the ones that are somewhat technically savvy.
Your last comment is irrelevant.
We’re not talking about Payroll Tax so I’m not sure why that’s relevant. It has nothing to do
with SPAM.
It's relevant because we are talking about costs to business. Just because you're talking about SPAM doesn't make everything else "irrelevant".
Useless Payroll Tax is a cost to business.
SPAM is a cost to business.
Very relevant.
Copy and paste much?
"Many business people spend up to fifteen minutes per day reading and deleting their Spam emails."
I receive a ton of emails a day and am surprised if there is even 1 spam email that makes it to my inbox. My email address is publicly listed written in plain text for every spam bot to see. It's not rocket science.
i signed up but they didnt email me the link to claim the cards. HOwever my 2 friends did get my referral. Seems a but suss.
probably because it is bro, which is why i didn't sign up. offers like these are much, much more beneficial to the company than to the people who sign up.
Just email the webmaster - there's a glitch which saw quite a few people not receive the email to actually sign up for the cards. I was one of them but he emailed me back a couple of hours later with a direct link.
Hmm… it asked me to choose between boy and girl cards, I couldn't figure out which is which? I want to see the choices before I pick :( I just picked girl cards I think (whatever the default was)
it's on the front page - just click on the "Click here" button… lol
I don't see it? Can you give me a direct link?
Hi there,
GOOD follow up from them -see below
I'm sorry about the problems. We've had some trouble with spam filters over the last few days which we're trying to fix.
To redeem your products, please go to:
http://www.mooo.com.au/promotionsXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX…
Regards,
Pete Hare
[email protected]
Okay, so I got the reply back form moo. They said that they would rectify the problem so if you receive a tax invoice for a 12 pack of cards instead of 24, email them and they'll change your order!
Cheers
thanx, i just emailed them, hopefully i'll hear back.
Edit: got a reply and they are editing my invoice to reflect a 24pk cards :)
There are some very interesting comments about spam, but one obvious one, is that if you are to receive these cards - which you must really want, then no amount of free/fake email addresses is going to stop your real address being used. Snail mail can also be spammed - it was known as Junk mail.
The point is that if you are email savvy then you can protect yourself, if you are not then being warned of the dangers is somewhat helpful, so stop shooting the messengers.
As they always say - there is no free ride. If the providers of these free cards dont have some benefit to them, then they wouldn't be offering this.
-_-! Christmas greeting card…Not too bad choice
Guys if you are ever worried about spam and you have firefox. Make sure you get https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1813
It lets you paste disposable emails that only let a certain amount of emails redirect to you before you don't get anymore.
yup I use that. smart lad
anybody receive the card?, it is near 1 week since i received the invoice, pretty long!!!!
Mine just arrived.
They look great
Got mine too.
Got nothing yet…
i got mine yesterday
they so cute and small
got these today, and it was a 24-pack. i hadn't imagined they were small wallet size cards though. never mind still very cute.
Got mine today! They are rather small! And a bit of a waste of a padded bag thingo…
From about five days ago:
"This is a courtesy notice to let you know that we are currently running a little bit behind in getting out the Free Thank You Cards (due to overwhelming demand).
We are running extra shifts to try to catch up with the backlog.
We apologise for any inconvenience…"
Still waiting and so is a friend! Considering their office is the next suburb I can't see why it should take almost a month to fulfil orders!
I can’t see why it should take almost a month to fulfil orders!
I would think these are being printed between paying orders.
There is no point spending a few days printing enough cards and having a backlog of paying customers.
Received. Thanks!
Has anyone received these recently? - I'm still waiting.
Recieved a while ago lol.
Ooooh these are cute! :)