Cheap price for this decent gaming mice.
Also other razer gear on sale
Razer Tartarus Expert Gaming Keypad $35
Razer Anansi Keyboard $59
Said available in-store or online but website price have not been updated yet.
Razer Abyssus Mouse $19, Razer Tartarus Gaming Keypad $35, Razer Anansi Keyboard $59 @ MSY
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Really good price on the Tartarus. I have the orbweaver but the price difference is huge with this special….
Yeah I'm in the same boat… $100 difference basically for the mechanical switches and an extra row of buttons. Not that I don't love my Orbweaver, but if anyone was considering trying one, this is a great deal that you can't feel too bad about if you don't like it in the end
Any opinion on the Asus 23.6 inch monitor?
Will that deal come back anytime soon?
thanks for the post. the keyboard looks good,
i wouldnt call that mouse a gaming mouse. not looking to start a debate, but if you looking for a decent gaming mouse spend a little more.
What mouse would you suggest?
I bought a Logitech G602 for about $40 delivered a few months back as a replacement for my Razer DeathAdder. I absolutely love the G602 - super responsive & reliable, no jitters, and wireless is a bonus. I find the batteries I'm using (eneloops) need to be swapped out every 5-6 weeks but that's probably because I work from home and the mouse has double duties in photoshop and gaming (FPS mostly).
I just wish Logitech would release a few new mechanical keyboards as their current lineup doesn't do it for me.
Thanks. On one hand wireless would be handy because then I wouldn't feel resistance when I pull the mouse in some directions (as my room is pretty small and there isn't a lot of slack wire above my desk.. it's hard to explain why my room size matters.. because my table is small and my bed.. whatever). On the other hand I don't want to replace batteries and I still have this old school mindset where wired technology is more reliable than wireless technology (which might not be true today). Can you explain to me your experience with wireless mice, and do you have any wired alternatives at a good price point?
@asdffdsa: This is the first non-Apple wireless mouse that I've used on a regular basis - I followed the same line of thought as you regarding batteries before coming across this mouse. I bought an Eneloop 4xAA + charger pack at the same time for about $12 so I've always got spare charged batteries, and trickle charge means the charger won't hurt the batteries or my power bill. Five minutes every six weeks to change two batteries isn't much of an imposition.
Regarding accuracy & reliability, I've yet to have any issues with jitter or tracking and I'd say this mouse has been better than the DeathAdder. The build is great too and it's nowhere near as bulky as the other Logitech gaming mice, which I've tried and rejected.
look for DPI for precision and accuracy,
this mouse is onloy Optical 3500 dpi resolution..3500 is pretty old tech, look for 5000 DPI or more,
i use 5800 DPI razer, we also have a 11000 DPI mouse here (88$). basically this translates to minimum hand movement to maximum pointer movement but with precision..
Any particular models you would recommend at a good price point?
You have no idea what you are talking about. DPI is not precision or accuracy, its basically just how sensitive the mice is (can change in windows setting for free!) Nobody needs more 600dpi for one 1080p screen, i have a 4000dpi mouse and i use 800 dpi. I strongly suggest you turn your dpi down to under 2000, using 11,000 dpi in any game makes it unplayable even on the lowest in game sensitivity rofl, its like trying to go around a tight round about at 800 km/h in a truck.
DPI IS A MARKETING GIMMICK TO GET KIDS TO SEE A LARGE NUMBER AND BUY THE PRODUCT.
And its clearly working.The best sensors are still Opticial, lazser sensors can do large dpi numbers but i think i already coverered this (useless).
1000Hz isnt a gimmick, most gaming mice will have this nowdays though.
This is an old article, but yeah, most people who know what they're doing don't give a flying (profanity) about DPI.
Rom's [CMO of SteelSeries] argument is a simple one: go to a tournament where professional players are in the running for serious money. These are people with something real at stake, who know how to choose their equipment and settings for maximum performance. "Ninety percent of the expert gamers there will be using a DPI value between 800 to 1,600," he said. If you paid some serious money for your gaming mouse, check out its stats: it's likely it can do some multiple of 1,600 at maximum sensitivity.
What are you looking for in a mouse? Don't buy into the high DPI gimmick.
If budget is not a constraint, consider mice with either the 3366 or 3310 sensor (currently these are the top performers).
Budget is a constraint unfortunately. While I do enjoy playing games, for me, I can't justify high spend on games.
I currently use a microsoft optical v1.1 mouse or something. So I guess anything would be better than that.
@asdffdsa: Is it by any chance a Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical 1.1 or Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical 1.1 ?
here we go.
people claiming fkn shite like "currently these are the top performers" (according to my neighbour Alimustafa, Kazahstan Winmine champion)asdffdsa. best thing for you would be to, when you get a chance, visit a store like harvey norman and use one to see the difference.
the reason i wrote this info is because recently i had to use a 3500dpi mouse for several days and didnt like it at all. too used to 5800 DPI. basically what that means is that you have to move your hand more to achieve the same onscreen movement…
since you say you use microsoft wheel mouse, i would say any razor mouse will keep you happy.
have a read around.
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-gaming-mouse/
before you listen to some fool debating the difference between ms mouse optical vs intellimouse.
good luck
from above article:
DPI, or Dots Per Inch, is a common mouse metric that should actually be referred to as CPI, or Counts Per Inch (they’re used interchangeably in this article). Basically, DPI/CPI refers to the number of counts the mouse’s sensor reports over an inch of mousing surface. The higher the number, the further the cursor can move in relation relation to every inch the mouse is moved, which means the mouse cursor will cross the screen much faster at 3,000 CPI than at 300 CPI. CPI has become like megapixels in digital cameras—it’s an important figure, but it’s inflated as a sexy marketing bullet point when other things are just as important. An 8,000 CPI mouse is not necessarily more accurate than a 2,000 CPI mouse"but it’s inflated as a sexy marketing bullet point when other things are just as important. An 8,000 CPI mouse is not necessarily more accurate than a 2,000 CPI mouse"\
maybe try reading your own article posting, you might learn something. Obviously it takes time to adjust to a new mice if you were using a stupidly high sens/Dpi
@millusions: Higher dpi does NOT give you higher precision and if you set it too high most certainly it wont give you better accuracy.
I have both a logitech g602 (2500 dpi) and logitech g402 (4000 dpi) and i have both mouse set to about 600 dpi but my g602 is slightly better i think then the g402.
Polling rate not that increases precission and accuracy i cantell when swit hing my g602 from performace mode (500hz) to power saving mode (250hz)
Hi @millusions, firstly I did not neg any of your comments. Please take time to read my comments as I did yours.
Your comments seem to contradict each other. Your first comment implies higher DPI is better but you then quote an article that states DPI is a marketing gimmick and that a higher DPI is not necessarily better.
Having a higher DPI is not always a viable option, I have found in some games you're not able to decrease the sensitivity due to the minimum sensitivity cap not being low enough.
High DPI steps are typically not native to the sensor. One common way these high numbers are attained is to artificially increase it through interpolation which basically inherently decreases the accuracy of the sensor.
before you listen to some fool debating the difference between ms mouse optical vs intellimouse
Not debating, only asking for clarifcation what mouse @asdffdsa is using because (s)he may not need a new mouse.
people claiming fkn shite like "currently these are the top performers"
Please find time to read and compare non-biased and educated reviews that present facts of real figures of why these are the top peforming sensors. For example: these sensors have a higher maximum perfect tracking speed than others.
That's right, you move your mouse further with a lower DPI. However you can compensate for that by increasing your games mouse sensitivity and still achieve the same cm/360.
A simple way to calculate this is to use a sensitivity calculator: http://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/
That mouse is ok for general gaming, playing casual game and may be FFS game.
I personally have a G400s and a DeathAdder other more serious gaming mouse.
Note: There is are two versions of the Razer Abyssus: Razer Abyssus 2010 and Razer Abyssus 2014 (both house the S3888 sensor).
It's not clear which one is being sold however MSY is listing the product specs of the 2010 edition (possibly clearing out EOL stock). MSY has also chosen to display the product image of the Razer Abyssus 2010 which has blue LED, the 2014 has green LED lighting.
You may find the 2010 suffers from jittering issues. Possibly fixed in the 2014 edition(?)
I can confirm the jittering issue. Doesn't happen too often but when it does it's annoying as hell…
I bought the abyssus last time msy had a sale and got the 2010 version.
Tartarus is interesting for LoL gaming. Could be practical and possibly more comfortable.
At a professional or at higher elo a mouse would be better, especially for micro-movements between casting or dodging skills at higher elo levels
Tartarus looks nice and at that price i don't think i can say no lol
How about the Razer Anansi? Is that a good price?
thanks..
Cant find the mouse on the online shop, has it been taken off?
The Tartarus is still $75…. not sure if the website has been updated.
prices has not been updated online yet….
Cougar 200M Optical Gaming Mouse
Or
Razer Abyssus Gaming Mouse
Both look good :S
Went instore at malvern and the guy said the mouse was not on website on special yet so cant get instore til it is, maybe tomorrow
It is on the website. The link in the OP links directly to the MSY website. It might not be on their online pricing, but the promotion states that it starts on Friday the 10th in store.
I would have made a scene if they refused to sell me the product.
i cant find it on there site when i click on the mouse thats on sale
dude show them the banner on this deal link, they cant refuse to sell it to you. I just bought a tartarus no problem.
$12 delivery fee…
Just been to MSY in Adelaide CBD. Showed him the flyer on my phone and gave me discount, plenty of stock. They also have Logitech UE400vi's for $19 on clearance, picked up two pairs, only one pair left.
This Abyssus is not recognized by Razer Synapse.
Alright honestly there is a lot of people who lack knowledge in the area of mice and i guess you can blame marketing:
Please read this to educate yourself before you spout nonsense:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1251156/an-overview-of-mouse-tech…It's a great article to help you understand what makes a good mouse that will suit your needs.
Tip: Focus on the shape of the mouse that suits your grip, determine what sensor it has and how it functions at your preferred DPI settings and most of all.. whether or not you personally like it
Just price matched the Anansi keyboard at HN at the Valley QLD. Now that I got the box in front of me, I've just realised that it's for MMO gaming and it's not a mechanical keyboard. Thinking to return it now.
I'm really regretting the Tartarus purchase so far.
First it's light as a feather and the 'feet' aren't that grippy. So it moves around like a mouse if you don't put downwards pressure on it, even on my quite grippy pine veneer desk.
Second the spacebar key is in the wrong spot, rather than being above the 8-way switch, it's below and much further away than a traditional keyboard - more than double the distance of my Logitech G710+. I have medium to large sized hands and even I have trouble reaching the reload and space key at the same time. People with medium to small hands just won't be able to reach both keys at the same time without arching their hand upwards.
Thirdly the cardboard case has a better build quality than the device. It's made of a really thin and light plastic that feels so cheap in the hands.
Last is the software. I thought Logitech software was iffy, but man oh man this Razer Synapse is downhill from the moment you realise you need to login with a username and password (with a verification email just to spite us even more) just to load the software up - let alone start making custom macros.
2/10.
Cheers for that. Reaffirmed my suspicions.
I should have probably added at the end of my first impressions was that I was looking at it from a gaming perspective and not as a productivity tool.
If you intend to use it as a macropad for applications then I still think it's a real bargain compared to industry standard ones such as X-Keys, but that the Razer isn't that much better than a cheapie off ebay (depending on software).
Now you talk after I ordered it! Oh well…
Well I needed to get it and have at least 10 minutes use before making a first impression. Next time I'll try and get a first impression in earlier to save a few people ordering it :P
That said, if you intend to use it as a macropad for non gaming use then it's fantastic and very cheap compared to the competitors such as X-keys.
Everything you don't like i dissagree with it doesnt slide even the slightest unless the feet are dirty which is like egery keyboard and mouse ive ever owned with rubber feet.
The spacebard under the stick is as close as any spacebar could ever be much closer then my KB (are you high?)sure it's not good to use for fps is you intend to use the joystick for wasd movements but if you used the keys for wasd and thumb for juump it is fine.
I really dont see how thin plactc is better then the actual device once again i ask (are you high??)
Doftware works perfectly fine the point in sighing in is so that you can get access to cloud presets much like your contacts are in the cloud for android and apple icloud.
It does take some getting used to.
for me i bought it for fps and to use the joystick for movements insted of WASD but as it's bee along time since i made the switch from console gameing it's going to take a little while to get used to a joystick again over wasd but thats no reason to hate on this device.i only play fps so cant say anything about any other type of games.
"it doesnt slide even the slightest unless the feet are dirty which is like egery keyboard and mouse ive ever owned with rubber feet."
It slides because of the very light weight design more than because the feet aren't grippy. They have a bit of grip, but the light weight along with resting the weight of an arm and hand on it means that a little bit of movement can easily lift and slide the device in the heat of the moment.From the first line of the second paragraph: "Taking a look at the Tartarus, two things become apparent – the weight (or the lack thereof) and its ergonomic design."
http://deadlygaming.com/razer-tartarus-gaming-keypad/"The spacebard under the stick is as close as any spacebar could ever be much closer then my KB (are you high?)sure it's not good to use for fps is you intend to use the joystick for wasd movements but if you used the keys for wasd and thumb for juump it is fine."
Mate, look at your keyboard and then look at the Tarantus. Notice how there is more than twice the distance between the R and spacebar? If you don't then you're either blind or purposely deceiving.
Here's a picture I just took of the Tartarus ontop of my Logitech G710+.
http://imgur.com/rJmEB17Most people (even those with large hands) would look at that and think how the hell are they supposed to hit 05 and spacebar at the same time. It's unergonomic for gaming.
I've remapped the spacebar key to be the one above the hatswitch, but it has no depression. It's just a tinny little click like a mouse click, using it as a jump key feels all kinds of wrong.
"I really dont see how thin plactc is better then the actual device once again i ask (are you high??)"
Could you rephrase that? I was saying the thin plastic was bad, not good?
"Doftware works perfectly fine the point in sighing in is so that you can get access to cloud presets much like your contacts are in the cloud for android and apple icloud."
Have you used any non Razer software for creating macros? Because I think if you had tried Logitech's one, then you would realise how poor Synapse is. It has no where near the functionality as Logitech Setpoint, and it uses more system resources (including an antive internet connection to boot).
"for me i bought it for fps and to use the joystick for movements insted of WASD but as it's bee along time since i made the switch from console gameing it's going to take a little while to get used to a joystick again over wasd but thats no reason to hate on this device."
I never said anything bad about the hat/8-way switch (what you refer to as a joystick, but it's not a joystick). So you use the 8-way directional pad as WASD keys, instead of the WASD keys on the gamepad? You know that's a really bad idea yes? You would have to be one of the only FPS players that would use a hat switch as movement keys - I wouldn't be surprised if you are as bad at gaming as you are at putting together a sentence as a result of using a hat switch for twitch movements.
Disagree all you want but it doesn't make you right, especially when you have trouble putting together an argument as I don't really understand half of what you are trying to write.
Please put some effort into making coherent arguments for your next reply.
While synapse deserves every bad reputation it gets, I want to point out you can change to offline mode. So far I only used the sign on for drivers and registration.
As far as drivers and macro apps go. Razer has never got good reputation. I have had countless keyboards and mice with them in the past and all of them annoy me one way or another when setting profiles or macros.
Thanks slowmo, I've done that now.
One thing I can't find is program specific macros that will change automatically. With SetPoint I can have macros for specific programs and if I tab between open programs then the macro key will be specific for the program in focus.
It seems that Synapse can't do this? So far I have to link a profile to a program and then manually change between profiles as I tab between them?
If that's the case (and there's no work around), I'll have to get rid of this device. This was something I have been doing with SetPoint for nearly 10 years.
Mine doesnt slide at all unless i forcefully push it along.
My mistake on the spacebar thing but i dont see that as a reason to talk bad about it as these at two different type of devices.
I use both logitech and razer software,my mouse and keyboard are logitech.
Yes i call that a joystick lol alot easier to say then 8-way directional pad.
The stick is much better then the WASD keys but a mouse is by far better then the sticks on a controller useing this is getting best of both worlds.
Maybe not for long term pc users who have only ever used WASD but thats only cause your used to one thing and find change difficult.Please reread what you typed earlier, you stated that the device packing was better then the actual device.
"Thirdly the cardboard case has a better build quality than the device."
Assuming "case" is the packageing as no other case of such came inside my box when i bought it earlier today.Make all the smart ass comments you like but it doesnt change the fact that most of your con's are wrong.
"My mistake on the spacebar thing but i dont see that as a reason to talk bad about it as these at two different type of devices."
Says the guy who called me high for even pointing it out in the first place. I don't expect that the guy who uses a hatswitch for moment would have a use for reloading at the same time as jumping, or any concept of ergonomics. I can see why you don't care about that being a big problem for a gaming device, because you don't care about gaming.
"Yes i call that a joystick lol alot easier to say then 8-way directional pad."
It's a hat switch, directional pad, 8 way switch, thumb stick or any combination of those terms. The one thing it isn't is a joystick.
"The stick is much better then the WASD keys but a mouse is by far better then the sticks on a controller useing this is getting best of both worlds."
If I had a cooler head I would say yeah, sure it's subjective. But you are using a hat switch as primary movement keys. So you now can't move at the same time as jumping, so you either lose the ability to jump in any direction, or you remap the jump key to a pad key. So you are using your fingers to jump and your thumb to move.
It's a horrible idea and no one should do it, you are doing yourself a diservice unless you have a disability or health problem in your hand, then don't use the hat switch for primary movement.
"Please reread what you typed earlier, you stated that the device packing was better then the actual device."
Yes, I did, and I meant it. To which you wrote back "I really dont see how thin plactc is better then the actual device". So yeah, I still have no idea what you were stuttering about.The packaging has this nice cardboard with high quality printing on the outside and the front opens like a book with a transparent plastic window to the device inside. It's packaged very well.
"Make all the smart ass comments you like but it doesnt change the fact that most of your con's are wrong."
Damn dude, I brought in pictures and sources to back up my points. So my facts are, well, facts. You brought "it's better to use a hatswitch than WASD for movement" to the table and no facts, no supporting evidence and no backup.
you where compairing thin plastic material to whtever type of plastic the device is made of, how is that hard to understand?
as i stated earlier i set a different key for jumping when useing the "thumb stick" as it's impossible to use the stick and space bar button at same time.
BTW yes joystick is an accetable term for the stick same as the stick on consoles controllers just not as large as a full blown joy sticks.
use google you will see many many wesites refearing to it as such.@c0balt: re profiles you actually can set then to switch automatically so far I've done it for the pre synapse devices. (Remapping f1 in excel is a sanity saver) I'm sure they would have done the same in synapse. Just need to look for the right option. That's what's got me is their applications tries badly to be cool but fails as ux.
"you where compairing thin plastic material to whtever type of plastic the device is made of, how is that hard to understand?"
Yes? I'm going to need someone else to weigh in here as I still don't know what you are saying!"as i stated earlier i set a different key for jumping when useing the "thumb stick" as it's impossible to use the stick and space bar button at same time."
You use your thumb to move and your fingers to jump on PC FPS games. You do realise that you have 4 fingers and one thumb yeah? I get it though, it's your preference and that's fine. You're just the one in 6 billion without a medical reason for needing to use a thumb on PC FPS games for movement over the actual WASD keys that are part of all gaming pads - hell they are even specifically marked with directional arrows for 'hint hint' movement.
"BTW yes joystick is an accetable term for the stick same as the stick on consoles controllers just not as large as a full blown joy sticks.
use google you will see many many wesites refearing to it as such."Look, if you are going to argue on the semantics of what is a joystick, controller thumbsticks and what is a hatswitch then you're just digging a super deep hole. These are not my definitions, they are just definitions and you can take your own advice and google those terms.
As you are most likely not aware, a controller is a different device to a joystick. As you are also most likely not aware, the thumb stick on the Tartarus is a direction pad and not analogue - which is a prerequisite for any thing 'joystick'.
I don't go around calling a car a monorail carriage just because it's easier for me to say. Even if I did, if someone was to point out the error I would most definitely change, as I don't want to refer to things by a wrong name when told the right one, or give people the wrong advice. The same can not be said for you.
Even Razer refers to it as a directional pad:
"The 8-way directional thumb-pad not only lets you move with precision, it can also act as modifier keys"
http://www.razerzone.com/au-en/gaming-keyboards-keypads/raze…Just google "what is a joystick" and "what is a hatswitch" and see what comes up, OK?
@slowmo:
Thanks mate, I'll keep trying then.@c0balt: My mistake i didnt know i needed a medical reason to use a gamingpad such as this i'm an idiot for thinking it was a combination of personal preferance and more comfort for long gameing durations.
and just because WASD is the preferance for pc gamers doesn't make it entirely wrong to use a thumb pad for movement in FPS games.
it does just as well as WASD keys only more comfortablenow if we where compairing mouse vs controller id straight out go mouse so much easier and faster and mor accurate.
i'm not going to bother replying to them other two point as your clearly not reading what im saying and you seem to not under stand that joystick is one of many words for the sticks on this device and the playstation and xbox consoles.
whatever shame your too stuck in your ways to give something new "gamingpad" a proper go.
Have a nice day :)
@holden93:
"My mistake i didnt know i needed a medical reason to use a gamingpad such as this i'm an idiot for thinking it was a combination of personal preferance and more comfort for long gameing durations."That's the spirit.
"and just because WASD is the preferance for pc gamers doesn't make it entirely wrong to use a thumb pad for movement in FPS games.
it does just as well as WASD keys only more comfortable"It does when you first you tell people that the distance between the spacebar and WASD keys is fine, then you say that even if it wasn't fine - that it isn't an issue because you use the directional pad for movement. Finally once I posted the picture of the issue to save face you suggested to remap every single key from the norm of PC gaming the last 20 odd years as a work around.
The whole reason I keep replying to you is because I don't want anyone to be given bad advice, ever. I honestly couldn't give a crap what you think about it, I give a crap that you are putting your bad advice onto others.
"now if we where compairing mouse vs controller id straight out go mouse so much easier and faster and mor accurate."
Whoa whoa whoa… you don't use a mouse at the same time as the keypad? So you are just using a single keypad for moving and aiming. Oh lord!"i'm not going to bother replying to them other two point as your clearly not reading what im saying and you seem to not under stand that joystick is one of many words for the sticks on this device and the playstation and xbox consoles."
Find me a single reputable source that refers to a gamepad directional pad/hatswitch as a joystick - please, just one. Don't keep saying you call it this, or plenty of people call it that. Just find me one example.
I linked you the official Razer website. I told you to google the terms. I told you that a controller thumb stick is analogue and the Tartarus is a 8 way switch, and that they are not the same thing. You don't have to respond- your silence is all I need to hear.
@c0balt: "now if we where compairing mouse vs controller id straight out go mouse so much easier and faster and mor accurate."
Whoa whoa whoa… you don't use a mouse at the same time as the keypad? So you are just using a single keypad for moving and aiming. Oh lord!you went full retard never go full retard!!
you went full retard never go full retard!!
umad brah? u sound mad
ok. i just had a play around with the synapse to see whats its about.
it seems you have to do a funny workaround as the linked program does automatically switches the profile, but the settings are also sticky, and after you closed that application, it doesnt revert to the previous settings .
So what you can do is tag "explorer.exe" as a 'default' profile and run it with (windows-E) key to switch it back. Otherwise, the link program check box works (and you can assign the shortcut to "None") without having to manually set the profile. There IS a 1-3 second lag from my tests. (Rubbish UX as I said earlier)
and you can do all these offline.
Got a speed mat and abyssus mouse. Not as good as my deathadder and g400 but an upgrad over the kinzu v2 I was using as my backup. That mouse is pretty shit.
The orbweaver is much better than the tartarus. The extra row of keys makes a huge difference for MMOs.
However, it is rather big and I have trouble reaching all the keys comfortably but my hands are particularly ssmall and stubby.
It's not small hands. It's awkward for medium hands too based on my experience with an hours use.
Here's a pic I took of the Tartarus ontop of my G710+ keyboard. On the Tartarus the keys are larger, the spacing between them is greater, and the distance between the spacebar key and everything else is twice the distance compared to my keyboard.
If only that hatswitch/spacebar/altkey element was adjustable then it wouldn't be so bad, but on the Tartarus it's fixed, only the palm rest is adjustable.
Already have a Nostromo and love it but the price for the Tartarus is pretty good. Is it worth moving to the Tartarus?
I think the Nostromo is actually better, I could make better use of a scroll wheel than an extra button.
Comparison between the two.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iTSPv-VjIYI also have a Nostromo, and based on the comments above and the video posted by C0balt - I'd say its more of a sidegrade.
I have found the scroll wheel from the Nostromo a bonus considering how most newer games have a HEAP of buttons to bind. It looks as though you are trading the wheel that can be bound 3 ways for a single button.
The only advantage is it looks as though the 15th button is easier to use on the Tartarus.
I'd jump on a cheaper Orbweaver if that was on offer.
Holy cow, i didnt expect this post to be an essay magnet.
overquoting seems to be the issue + some elements of nerd rage/ extreme nerd brand loyalty
if your refering to me then you are a mistaken 12 year old.
this is my first ever razer product everything else is logitech speakers mouse and keyboard.Your conduct has been very poor. I would be ashamed if I was you, and I'm ashamed for c0balt getting baited into replying to your consistent nonsense.
For the long posts with opinions, q&a etc. There should have been a forum post about this.
just bought 3x razor speed. very similar to steelseries-qck-limited-edition-marauder. however it seem to travel abit further than the corresponding hand movement, think i need to get use to it.
Felt the control, however i didn't want to take a punt since i am use to qck and the speed was similar texture.
Found out their closing time in Auburn means we leave time. So need to come 30 mins before to be safe or they close the doors on you.
Also got speed, it's better than the control
Good prices.