got stopped by police earlier while legitimately taking unregistered car to mechanic to organise some repairs
i had a permit ofc officer asked were i was going and i told them to mechanic
they said if i was booked in for some reason i told them i was which i wasnt
then he said im going to go mechanic with you to see if it is & if not there gonna fine me and demerit points
so i told them it actually wasnt booked and they still went to the mechanic with me
asked the reception if i was booked they said no ofc but they told them they have dealt with me before and then the police left its pretty clear i did get fined..
Fined by police for a ridiculous reason
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I agree with cypher67.
You're the one that's ridiculous. Wake up, pay up, grow up and don't lie again.
I shouldn't have used all my negs on jv. I guess I'll come back tomorrow.
Exactly what I was thinking :)
I'd like to give cypher67 more than one up vote, but it won't let me.
I'd like to neg krazyturk more than once, but it won't let me.
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Why would you book the car in for repairs first without getting them to look at it first and receiving a quote beforehand?
I'm sure mechanics get walk ins but if you're taking an unregistered car to them, you make a booking for them to look at it first.
yeah definitely not a stupid reason you were completely in the wrong lol and if you lie to a cop you're just asking for trouble.
When I was in Sri Lanka a couple of weeks ago a police officer pulled our driver over and claimed he was speeding (he had no radars or anything he was going off his eyesight), our driver said he wasn't speeding (because he wasn't.. we had only just pulled out onto the road).. the police officer then basically told him to pay him x amount of dollars now or he can receive a fine in the mail which would be 5 times that of the amount the cop was trying to bribe him of.
Never complain about police in Australia, seriously.
Typical traffic police in SE Asia…
do they have cars in sri lanka? i thought they had only boats
Everyone negged you but its okay i see the humour, some people are so pc you cant even make a joke anymore
Good one. I positive voted you. People need to lighten up!
Holy crap I lol'd hard at this +50
Srilanka in SE Asia?? wow..they move now
Sri Lanka is in South Asia… :p
Technically Sri Lanka is in South Asia, but point taken.
You have to know the law of the land Rambutann. After a court case a few years ago, Sri Lanka (believe it or not) now has NO speed limits until uniform speed limit signs are put up. Police are under specific instructions by their bosses that they cannot book anyone for speeding. Besides Sri Lanka never had a system where infrigement notices were sent by mail. It was either a spot fine or a court appearance. You got scammed!!
Scammed? That's the norm, dude. Locals aren't immune to being targeted by corrupt police for bribes. I've seen it happen so many times to my family in Indonesia and they're Indonesian lol. Driving along, cop waves you down and claims you've done [insert BS here], and either asks for the bribe or… you just know it's meant to be done and you offer the bribe straight up just to get rid of them.
No scam there. Locals get booked for speeding all the time. However, since the fines are so low (e.g. $5 AUD) and aren't recorded centrally for demerits, a long distance trip can turn into a series of fines, speeding all the way :p These days there is somewhat less corruption (relative to how it was many years ago) so there is a decent chance that they aren't actually bribes.
Totally agreed, India, Sri Lanka all same, highly corrupted Police.
i get this every time i go SE aisa.
im positive this counts towards "Preparing car for Roadworthy" which is allowed on the unregistered permit
also he would want to take the car in so they can give him a set price based on the work it needs & not just a inaccurate quote over the phone.
Yes but had he been upfront about it then perhaps the police would have been more lenient. Also, OP sounds like he is up to no good.
I actually called the LAC before I rode my unregistered motorvehicle to my mechanic. Called up and informed them also made a proper booking at the mechanics.
Never had any drama's on the way there but in-case I did, I had proof of booking as well as a enquiry to the LAC as a backup of sorts.
I don't actually think you got a fine. I don't think they have enough evidence to prove you're in breach of your UVP.
However,
A UVP does not allow a vehicle to be used:
to collect parts
for social purposesI read through what you wrote, i reckon you've been skipping rego and basically got caught out. Get your car fixed, pay your rego.
You may have escaped this time, but next time they'll have your previous encounter on record. So they'll have a much easier time arguing you're gaining the system in court.
they told them they have dealt with me before and then the police left its pretty clear i did get fined
That doesn't sound like they wrote out a ticket and gave it to you, so have you actually been fined?
They might be giving you the benefit of the doubt, and will follow up with the mechanic to see if the car is actually being repaired before writing a ticket.
Did you leave your car at the mechanics to get fixed, so it's now currently there? If not, did you get a quote or make an appointment to get it fixed? That's evidence that you really were getting it fixed.
asked the reception if i was booked they said no ofc but they told them they have dealt with me before and then the police left its pretty clear i did get fined
Punctuation is your friend :P
Also - did you or didn't you get fined? Sounds like you're just assuming…
OP makes my head hurt.
I will clarify it for you
asked the reception if I was booked they said no
Wait.. its the Police who do the booking, not reception.
Yes very confusing.
If the police had booked you , you would have got some paper work to show that.
(I guess it would be an on the spot fine)I think he meant that he asked reception if he was booked in to see the mechanic at that point… not booked as in fined by the cop. Still… wacky post is wacky lol
theres no law that says you need a booking
maybe not , but when you lie about a booking , your credibility goes down the drain, why should they believe you where actually going to get the car fixed ?.
i'm saying the OP isnt a complete idiot…
He's not an idiot, he's just a scammer.
I'm saying he is.
But you do have to be able to demonstrate a valid journey:
It is the responsibility of the driver to demonstrate that the journey is covered by the permit if required to.
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/PermitsModi…It doesn't sound like OP actually got fined at the time. If they do receive a fine in the mail, they can dispute it using the mechanic's dated quote/invoice/receipt as evidence.
It doesn't sound like OP actually got fined at the time. If they do receive a fine in the mail, they can dispute it using the mechanic's dated quote/invoice/receipt as evidence.
The non existent receipt, because OP made up that he was getting a quote.
got stopped by police earlier while legitimately taking unregistered car to mechanic
… they still went to the mechanic with meWhether or not OP intended to go to the mechanic, he says he actually ended up there.
Facing a possible fine, a non-idiot would get something dated in writing from the mechanic to demonstrate the permit use was valid.
Does OP deserve the fine? Sure, if he was abusing the permit. But if he uses the situation to get his car registered, it's a much better use of his money than to waste it on fines.
@Thrift: i ended up going to another mechanic from there and got some repairs done as they were cheaper also got it written in paper stating the reapirs, but i probably wont contest it cbf
@krazyturk: With luck you won't get a fine out of this (depending on their mood, they can stack a series of fines: unregistered, + uninsured, etc, making it quite expensive), but still, just get your car rego'd soon so you can enjoy it.
@Thrift: yeah i hope that's the case but he looked pretty serious about it, anyway roadworthy should be obtained pretty soon mate so i wont have to worry about all this bs again
i probably wont contest it cbf
Sounds like theres more to the story than what you're telling us.
@Davo1111: At this point it's not really relevant.
OP's post didn't ask how to get out of the fine, rather it was blowing off steam.Even if OP is a serial scofflaw that was taking liberties with the permit, the sooner he gets his car registered and insured the better for him and, more importantly, other road users.
The encouragement here should be for OP to improve his situation.
@Davo1111: Exactly, not sure what state, but at least in VIC, driving unregistered is a $1000+ fine. If there was a legal defense to it, that is one you would usually fight.
Am I the only one who struggled to read the initial post?? my head hurts.
Driving to a mechanic is valid under a unregistered permit tho, you don't need an appointment.
Appointment not needed - true. Don't you get it? Why do you think the officer went with him to the mechanics? To ascertain if the OP was heading there or somewhere else like the pub.
The point is you need to prove you are actually driving for mechanical repairs to obtain a roadworthy and what a better way than driving in the direction of the mechanical workshop with an appointment. Otherwise if you cop a fine and go to court it doesn't usually turn out well without evidence.
From what the OP has said he appears to been driving unregistered to various mechanics getting quotes. This is illegal.
Am I the only one who struggled to read the initial post??
Not at all! Its a good thing the OP was not pulled over by the Internet Grammar police, or he'd be doing 20 to life.
WTF is "ofc"?
I'm guessing "of course"?
Ah, it is! Or something similar even more strongly worded!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ofc
How the hell do you prove that though unless you have an aptmt. I can drive around for months and when I get caught I'd simply say 'I was on my way to the mechanic'. Do you get it now?
Crazy talk from krazyturk
His avatar seems relevant after this post.
Is this the same BMW you moved from Brisbane to Shepparton? Hopefully you got it at a great price as it seems like its costing you over and over again.
why would that matter
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We are a tight community.
I see what you did there!
I think OP deserves a fine for poor capitalisation, punctuation and lack of clarity! Where is the grammar police?
Where ARE the grammar police!
Which is one is correct?
"I think the OP deserves…"
or
"I think OP deserves…"2nd one, as there can be only one OP. No need to sepecify him out of one by using definite article 'the'.
Either one is perfectly cromulent, whereas OP was painful to read.
"i fink op deserfs" is da korekt wun sir
Lying to police will get you the least desireable treatment in court. You don't need an appointment but you harmed your defence with that lie.
Which state did this take place in? In Victoria the Police will issue an infringement notice and tell you can not even drive the car home. It happened to me when I through my own carelessness allowed my rego to lapse. My big complaint is that the fine is so high, $704.00
WA you have to declare the route you intend to drive. if you change the repairer, you have to inform the authority.
if you get it fixed that day (with invoice attach) you can challenge your fine
OP, if you continue writing like this you will get another fine from the grammar police
Dats a preeti slow blitzkreig fer a Grammer Nazi.
I think he is using his phone to write this during he drive back!
Shouldn't have lied. That's all i'm saying.
Get the freakin thing registered and get some insurance otherwise get off our roads and stay off.
Change the thread title to "I lied to the cops and now I will get a fine."
Being fined for driving an unregistered vehicle isn't as ridiculous as you think. Police crack down hard on unregistered vehicles because of crime trends.
Drivers of unregistered cars don't have insurance which means they are more likely to run from an accident.
Unregistered cars are harder to identify. That makes them an increased risk for use in non-traffic related crimes like robbery.
Since owners treat their unregistered cars as disused they tend not to secure or monitor them. Which increases the risk of theft by opportunistic car thieves and joyriders, subsequently risk of involvement in the before mentioned hit and runs plus increased risk of fatalities.
You probably don't realise it but you came across a more than reasonable police officer. Very few will bother leave their patrol to do an inquiry with a small business.
OP's story sounds like an episode of 'Highway Patrol'
i'm sure this post is just op trolling
Seems pretty stupid you would drive the unregisted car to "organise repairs", Permits are for driving them to get work done, not to have a chat about getting work done. Plus you lied about being booked in, why would the officer cut you a break for lying to them? Otherwise everyone could drive an unregistered car and just drive to their mechanic everytime they get pulled over. Suck it up and pay the fine