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      kronicmacstigator on 04/08/2014 - 21:41

      I still have a case I've been investigating for years that's been stymied by corruption and politics. Not sure if I want to join with it hanging over me. (If your wondering about the name, it's just a play on words, sometimes you've got to act like a druggie to bust one).

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        johnno07 on 05/08/2014 - 18:20

        I'm not wondering about your username, I'm wondering if you are being intentionally misleading - and for what reason? You say you're doing "law enforcement training" - implying that your doing police training. You aren't though, because police training doesn't take anywhere near that long. So what have you been investigating for years as a not cop?

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        Tenebrae on 05/08/2014 - 18:22

        @johnno07: Shoplifting.

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    [Deactivated] on 04/08/2014 - 22:26

    What is "four years of law enforcement training"? Is it different to security operations training?

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      kronicmacstigator on 05/08/2014 - 08:36

      +1

      Definately is, I stopped doing a security course after one day. Found out it interfered too much with my investigations training, completely different kettle of fish.

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  bought on 04/08/2014 - 06:24

  +1

  Does anyone else also find the super flashy lights some bikes install are distractive, especially at night. Why cant they install normal lights like scooters. Its one thing to be visible, but another thing to be like an emergency vehicle.

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    Utopian on 04/08/2014 - 08:28

    Due to the HIGH level of exposure/risk, I figure they're worthy to grab more attention. The rider & bike combo function much differently to scooters.

    Some motorbike riders ride with high-beam during the day, with a "Stuff Ya" attitude. I think that's a step too far - And IIRC, the law agrees.

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    timmypete on 04/08/2014 - 09:43

    Why cant they install normal lights like scooters.

    Most scooters/cars have much more powerful lights powered by large batteries charged by the running of the engine. On a bike, similar light output and visibility to others is very expensive (in dollars and weight), which is why a lot use flashing and other-attention grabbing strategies to alert other road users to their presence.

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    iSamurai on 04/08/2014 - 11:52

    +1

    in Germany lights have to be steady and not flashing. in the uk they have to have an option of flashing. each to their own.

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    kronicmacstigator on 04/08/2014 - 15:42

    +1

    Because the batteries last longer when flashing

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  Bigsta on 04/08/2014 - 08:08

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  Cyclists just dont have a place in sydney roads, they slow traffic down and are a danger to themselves and others.

  As to the heroes thinking they are on tour de france every day, these guys should be arrested, i cant race my vehicle on the streets why can they race theirs?

  I use to take my son to centennial park all the time but even with the lights they have instlaled there now its too dangerous crossing to the playground with hundreds of cyclists in packs doing 60kph plus more then twice the speed limits swearing to get the %#^& out of the way to pedestrians.

  While I agree that some Cyclists do the right thing, they are the minority.

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    BhanuL on 04/08/2014 - 08:23

    Umm Wrong:

    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/four-in-e…

    Learn to drive overtake etc is my only advice. Also try to overtake a group of cars in a traffic jam, cyclists slow traffic a lot less than all of the cars on the road causing the damn traffic jam in the first place.

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      Bigsta on 04/08/2014 - 16:50

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      Adelaide is irrelevant to this conversation, SA has 10 lane roads everywhere and less then a million people, what you guys call traffic we call 3AM.

      IN SYDNEY where most of our main roads are 2 or 4 lanes, even our biggest freeways are 4 or 6 lanes there is just no room for them and its sad that people keep buying the hype and riding bikes standing high on moral high ground screaming out to trucks and pedestrians, overtaking on the left and then wondering why there is such amomisty and carnage on the roads.

      And i reckon you have never ridden a bike if you cant get it to go 60kph, the avg racing bike on a flat road like centennial park will do 80kph without breaking a sweat, but they should be doing that at homebush on a bike track not in a park where kids are everywhere and the speed limit is 30kph./

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    imdeano on 04/08/2014 - 11:23

    +1

    and the rest of the cars in front of you don't slow you down, every bike is one less car you have to wait behind in traffic. also, do you know how hard it is for a bike to do 60kmh? you have rocks in your head.

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  pioneeringlife on 04/08/2014 - 09:02

  +3

  I'd love to see all the cyclists who ride into the city every day, for one day drive their car in.
  Just to see how many car-lengths per hour all the bike haters can move while they're stuck in their glorious bike free traffic jam

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    INFIDEL on 04/08/2014 - 09:21

    +5

    Ah, International Car Day, where everyone tries to drive their beloved car, at the same time ;-)

    No bikes. No traffic hassles. Happiness & peace would reign!

    Unfortunately politicians would use the unending traffic jam as an excuse to divert more subsidy to road building.

    A bus lane was abolished in Brissie as car owners complained it was unfair for them to sit in traffic while buses whizzed by - now cars & buses sit in the traffic jam & some bus passengers now drive since the relative advantage was removed, congesting the roads more. But those damned bikes have their own path by the river & whiz past. Grr ;-)

    (a reluctant car driver)

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      INFIDEL on 04/08/2014 - 10:57

      +1

      For a real traffic jam, drive in China ;-) Foreigners can't, but traffic jams have been reported to last for days.

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  OoLLaWa on 04/08/2014 - 09:33

  +1

  A cyclist nearly knocked me down the other day in Sydney CBD when the lights had turned red and walking lights were green.

  Should I put a sign on my forehead at all times stating "Cyclist watch out for Human obeying the law of the road"?

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    INFIDEL on 04/08/2014 - 09:39

    and your injuries? Bruised ego?
    Try walking across the street in Amsterdam with hundreds of bikes heading towards you, but somehow always missing ;-) That's scary.

    Every transport user may break road rules. But stories of car drivers breaking rules are so common, we barely bother about it.

    We can all tell these stories, but nearly being knocked down by cars where the driver failed to pay attention or broke road rules is more common, at least in my experience as a pedestrian. I've had a huge truck try to force me off a pedestrian crossing (revving it's engine & almost nudging me) despite the green man saying I could cross. I have had to jump out of the way of a car while crossing at a pedestrian crossing, because he was gawking at a police operation - the Police saw it & did nothing, despite my complaint.

    The consequences of damage from bikes is far less than from cars.

    Watched a car driver yesterday nearly knock down 2 children on bikes (1 fell off onto the road due to it), while concentrating so hard on getting a parking space before the next driver (at a children's playground). The driver was not paying attention to anyone other than other cars. Unfortunately I was walking past & saw it all unfold in 'slow motion'. Needless to say, the driver was also affected by their thoughtfulness, and decided to forego their park & leave before angry parents got to them! The children on bikes were obeying the road rules. The driver wasn't.

    I think her injuries were much more than yours.

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      smartazz104 on 04/08/2014 - 10:06

      +1

      So your injuries from a truck nudging you, bruised ego also?

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        INFIDEL on 04/08/2014 - 10:09

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        You bet - same as jpsnail ;-)
        It's a bit of a shock that a council driver in a massive garbage truck would do that - breaking the law so blatantly in view of security cameras, so I know the thoughts of outrage & indignation. But I don't think ALL drivers are like that. That particular person was wrong, and an arsehole, whether driver or cyclist. Just pointing out it happens from all road users, including pedestrians.

        These stickers are PART of awareness raising of all road users to be mindful of others, not just cyclists.

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  iSamurai on 04/08/2014 - 11:32

  rather disappointed to see this thread turning ugly pretty quickly inevitably. they're just offering free stickers ay…

  I ride 350km and drive 3km to the mall to do shopping a week. maybe I drive a little more on some occasions. I'd love to put that sticker on my car.

  I agree with some of the points raised here that some cyclists run red lights and don't care about pedestrians. If there is a scheme that mandates cyclists who want to ride on the road to pass a riding test (like cars and motorbikes), and get demerit points for breaking the law, I would support that (especially when they made helmets compulsory for safety, doing a written and practical riding test would also increase safety).

  I would support rego for cyclists, on the condition that they are calculated systematically and comparably to motor vehicles. That would be like $5 anyway, which has been said it's not worth the man-power. Nevertheless this would stop the whine that for some reason cyclists don't pay rego.

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    PlagueistheCheap on 04/08/2014 - 13:01

    I don't registration is reasonable, will kids have to register?

    Education is the key. There will always be people doing the wrong thing however overall education is the best step.

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      iSamurai on 04/08/2014 - 14:51

      I think so too but I think this is the one of the better compromises to stop some individuals from using this in an anti-cycling argument.

      That's why I thought they should only be enforced to people riding on public roads. if it's just kids riding in the driveway or in the park they should be exempt.

      Of course education is the long term solution… and I think part of this is through the rego thing as well. We'd have less people running red lights (so as to stop the argument that all cyclists run red lights) as well because the consequences of running red lights would be more formalised and people would take committing the offence more seriously.

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  grasstown on 04/08/2014 - 12:52

  I am all for bikes using the road but I myself would never use it as a mode of transport to get from a to b. just recreation on back streets. Its just not safe. Bikes travel at an unsafe speed- bikes are slower than cars. Riders physically cannot give the road the attention of the driver - pedaling is physically demanding and requires focus. Cars have airbags, crush technology etc to protect the most careless, unattentive, slow reflexed, poor visioned driver - the amount of car accidents far outnumbers the amount of riders who get hit.

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  Tenebrae on 04/08/2014 - 15:39

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  They misspelled "aim".

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  Kuric on 04/08/2014 - 23:10

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  For everyone's interest.
  This is a great and unbiased article in relation to motorist and cyclist crashes.

  http://btawa.org.au/2014/07/26/cyclists-are-at-fault/

  I guess it also depends on the frame of mind of a nation such as the USA.

  http://www.9news.com/story/traffic/2014/06/18/cyclists-at-fa…

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