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Not sure when the sale started, but got myself a few WD Red 3TBs. Shipping was $7USD.
Amazon Sale WD Red HDDs 1TB/2TB/3TB/4TB $64.04USD/$98.95USD/$122USD/$174.99USD + Shipping Fee
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Same here…. :) too much ozbargaining eyes getting tired lol
Also got fooled by that !! :P
This isn't any special once off sale… this is the normal price i been watching these for months now and they only move a few cents each day, week.. the 2TB were cheaper by about $10 2 weeks ago.
You can check camelcamelcamel for price changes.
Total saving buying at these prices is about $20per drive would rather save the headache and buy locally for warranty piece of mine.
nope, see below… locally would have cost me a great deal more. its the same HDD, made in the same O/S factory…
The HGST coolspins, at least for 4TB, are about $175 each shipped from B&H Photo and are much better drives.
reports? im a big fan of the WD RED's…
Hitachi is much more reliable than Seagate:
http://blog.backblaze.com/2014/01/21/what-hard-drive-should-…Hitachi sits around 2%, Seagate is ~10% failure rate per year.
We're talking about WDs, not Seagates.
Also Hitachi doesn't exist anymore. WD bought Hitachi's HDD business, Seagate bought Samsung's HDD business, and WD spun out part of former Hitachi to Toshiba.
From the BH Photo description:
The CoolSpin technology, along with other Hitachi power management techniques, gives the Deskstar Coolspin its 29% power savings over the Deskstar Coolspin.
29% power saving over itself
What…
For an extra $10-20 you can get the same drive locally… It will have actual warranty and it won't have been (literally) bounced around the entire planet once or twice.
Case in point
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Western-Digital-WD-Caviar-Red-3-5…I hate it when that happens~!
Thanks for that link. I didn't know ShoppingExpress has an ebay site. This is helpful for me. The Red 3TB is a lot cheaper than their original website….any particular reason for such a big parity?
Is that really SE? They have a gmail account as the contact email which seems really weird to me considering their own email contact on their site is @shoppingexpress.com.au?
Edit - well seems to be as they have good feedback on their eBay account, just surprising that's all.
Thanks man just bought a spare. Had 4 3TB Seagate drives die on me in the last 6 months! Never again!
No deal, idiots at se have no clue.
Purchased last nite with more than 10 available. Got an email today, they hav no stock and contacted suppliers and unable to get more. Bla bla b.s
yep got the same email last night. so that link/deal is a fail. going to get it from amazon now zzz wasted my time with no stock.
Same just happened to me :( Same excuse. Suppliers have no stock. What total BS.
Ebay price has now been put up to $171.90 but with zero stock.
We expect better than this SE.Excuse..excuse…excuse.. too bad ExcuseExpress!
eBay hacking - still using that as an excuse!
"I am very sorry to inform that we have an issue with your order.Unfortunately our system crashed due to the recent eBay hackings and data has been manipulated, the system was not able to update the stock levels in time. We only found out that we were understocked for this item when preparing for your order.We have tried to order more in to fulfil your order, however our suppliers do not have this particular model left.I have already passed your refund case to our accounts team, you will receive the payment this afternoonOnce Again we are very sorry for any inconvenience caused.We thank you in advance for your understanding and patience"
BS ShockingExpress!
Yes, that's such a BS excuse. I will never use them again. What a dodgy way to cancel our order. Plus, they haven't refunded my money yet. I am so annoyed and I'm definitely leaving negative feedback.
@regis169: You can still get $3TB for A$135 from Amazon (when buying 4, the shipping is still A$5.75
@skinny:
Lol. I got exactly the same cut and paste excuse.
Are they actually trying to say that their internal inventory system somehow crashed due to Ebay being hacked?? What complete BS.
Even IF by some technological fluke this actually happened… Ebay was hacked 10 days ago. Are they saying that a business turning over as much as they do has not managed to repair it's own inventory system in the past 10 days!!
Care to explain yourselves SE? We know you're reading this thread.
4tb red is cheaper than any in oz at moment
You can transfer the WD warranty locally.
WD warranty… too many calls you would have to make for any incident… from my recent experience. Though, I must agree, WD HDDs don't do too bad a job for the lower prices.
I agree with this.
I got a 256gb ssd off amazon for $128AUD on an oz bargain special.
At the time the price was great. The only problem is it took a month to arrive, and in that time prices here have dropped to $125ish (on special).
If you order this drive, it will arrive in a months time, and by the time you get it local stores will have it at the same price you originally ordered it at.
Just my experience anyways..
If you order this drive, it will arrive in a months time, and by the time you get it local stores will have it at the same price you originally ordered it at.
I ordered 2 Toshiba 3TB drives about 3 weeks ago, the drives took 11 days to be delivered.
Just my experience anyway..
Yeah, that's about how long my Amazon packages take to arrive too.
I'm always amused that shipping an Amazon package from the US is cheaper than using AusPost to mail a package locally, even though they both might travel the same distance within the country.
Meh, I'm happy with the $127 4TB Seagates I got a couple of weeks ago from DSE/Ebay sale…
make sure you have back ups of any data stored on them.
I really don't understand these comments. WD, Seagate, Samsung, no matter who the manufacturer, you should have back-ups of your data.
People just don't back up all the time. Some drives seem to have higher failure rates than others, so if you have one of those, you'd better be doubly sure it's backed up.
Dunno about the 4TB Seagates, but the 3TB Seagates don't have a good reputation if you follow BackBlaze's blog post on the drives they use. My own 3TB Seagate has failed as well.
I think the comment is more to the fact that you are storing 4TB on one disk, backups are pretty much required
Very true, a hard drive made by any manufacturer can die, and different manufacturers have bad batches for certain drives….just seagate has a much higher percentage of lemons, and every batch is a bad batch.
I've had EIGHT seagate drives die on me, but I'll never have another one die as I'll never buy another seagate drive as long as i live.
WD or Hitachi are good buys, and worth the extra couple of bucks.I had a heap of WD drives (desktop, enterprise, and velociraptor) fail on me, which drove me to Seagate, Samsung, and Hitachi.
I've since had multiple failures with both Seagate and Samsung. No failures with Hitachi yet, but I haven't bought many of them so far.
I just don't trust any brand now. As you say, they all have bad models every now and then.
When I read BackBlaze's blog post on their drives and how they had a high failure rate with their 3TB Seagate drives, I got a bit nervous as I had the exact same model.
About two months later, that drive died. Sigh.
Only ever had WD fail on me outside the warranty period which is to be expected unfortunately, however almost all my Seagates died while still in warranty… It's subjective and anecdotal but I avoid Seagate now.
Funny you say that i have 6 3tb 5xWD 1xSeagate
One of these drives failed guess which one it was ?If you had guess a western digital then you'd be wrong.
Except they were external. Try and crack it open and warranty is gone…
Are you 100% sure about that?
I opened all 4 of those expansion drive enclosures without breaking/cracking anything. There are no stickers that would indicate the enclosures were opened.
Further more, when I ran each drive's S/N on seagate's RMA process, they all have valid one year warranty with Seagate, as per their regular desktop drives. I was able to start an RMA case with Seagate without any issues.
So I can either ship the drives direct to seagate or put them back into the enclosures and take them back to DSE. I can guarantee you that the drones at DSE won't be able to tell the difference…
So I can either ship the drives direct to seagate or put them back into the enclosures and take them back to DSE
Are you certain that can be done? My 3TB drive died and I'm missing one of the internal rubber spacers from the external case. Mine also shows the internal drive being under warranty, but they could easily check and see if it is meant to be inside a case or not.
Well until some one comes out and confirms that it cannot be done, don't think you have anything to lose apart from postage to Sydney…
Or just put it back togather and return it to point of purchase?
Well until some one comes out and confirms that it cannot be done, don't think you have anything to lose apart from postage to Sydney…
$30 is a lot to lose. You said it like you were sure of it, so I was hoping you could confirm it.
Or just put it back togather and return it to point of purchase?
I would, but my friend bought it from OW for me and can't find the receipt anymore. Even so, do they do a one-to-one swap on the spot, or do they send it to Seagate to be checked?
$30 shipping for one drive to Sydney?? Where do you live? I think it cost me $30 shipping to rma a WD drive to Malaysia!
Ow swaps over the drive on the spot. But with out a receipt you are probably out of luck…
Oh yes, $30 was shipping a WD drive to Singapore. That made me switch to Seagate as it was about $15 to ship registered to Sydney the last time I sent one back.
Still, $15 is a lot to lose, which is why I was hoping you could confirm it.
LOL, sorry, I wish I could but my drives are not dead yet…
I can help you with that. Drives seem to dislike me. Just let me breathe on them. :)
The price was $127, the price of a regular "internal" drive is around $180, are you really saying that warranty is worth $53, i.e. that there's a 1/2 chance of the drive failing within the warranty period?
You know the saying once bitten twice shy?
Some people might have been bitten 10, 15 times by drives that failed within warranty. For them, $53 might be worth it. Smarter people might buy locally with a credit card that offers price protection. :)
I've had more than 15 drives fail on me, so I would think twice about buying a drive without warranty. I'd still consider it if the drive has a good reputation and the price difference was large, though.
@eug: It's not a very smart move though. Treat warranty as insurance. For you to get a neutral payout, then 1/2 of your drives will have to fail within the warranty period, which is usually within 3 years.
If more than 1/2 fail, then you're better off with the warranty and if less than 1/2 fail, then you're better off without. There's a law which the actuaries use which describes this principle, been a while since I've done that stuff though.
But essentially, "once bitten, twice shy" is hardly a reasonable way to approach it and I highly doubt that 1/2 of drives bought fail within the warranty period.
Either way, it's your money, of course and if the added peace of mind is worth it for you, then that's what matters at the end of the day.
But essentially, "once bitten, twice shy" is hardly a reasonable way to approach it and I highly doubt that 1/2 of drives bought fail within the warranty period.
I did mention being bitten 10 or 15 times in reference to that saying.
I have personally had so many drives die on me, both at home and at work, that even if I end up not claiming warranty, the peace of mind makes it worth it. Drives with longer warranties like this Red are expected to last a bit longer too.
Drives don't like mechanical shock either, so the potential damage from shipping drives via normal parcel services halfway across the world should be factored in. You can drop a hard drive box face-on onto a hard surface and the box will show no signs of damage, but the drive inside would have been subject to high G forces.
And most importantly, you missed the part about buying with a credit card that offers price protection. Mechanical hard drive models stay around for 2+ years. If you use a card with price protection, you might pay $180 now but claim back $60 in 2 years, effectively making it cheaper than buying overseas in the first place, with the added benefit of local warranty and not having the drive go through regular shipping services halfway around the world.
@eug: Well at the end of the day, it's all about personal preference, as I said in my previous post.
Personally though, I've been pretty lucky with drives, I've only have a few fail on me before and they failed because they were old, (3+ years) and I knew they were nearing the end of their lives anyway.
I'm interested in the price protection stuff you're talking about though. What you're saying is you can pay $180 now and buy the drive and when the price goes down in 2 years time, you get $60? I'm pretty sure that it's only within the first few months or something like that.
If you can use it for that long, you could rort the price protection system pretty badly with anything that's tech-related because of how quickly things change.
I'm pretty sure that it's only within the first few months or something like that.
Check out the Coles MasterCard. It has been mentioned here a few times. It's unbelievable, I know. :)
@eug:
Wow, that's ridiculous. So there's no point even waiting for a sale anymore, just buy whenever and claim back the difference when there's a sale?
Surely there's got to be something I'm missing!
the 4TB REDs were US$174.99 some time ago, in fact i bought some two weeks ago. they arrived very quickly, and they're already in my NAS serving me well… highly recommend! cheap shipping too.
just checked, 4x4TB's cost me (delivered to SYDNEY, NSW): A$ 805.99 …. at MSY i would have had to pay $936 and i'd have to pick them up myself (not delivered to my door). good deal.
But what about warranty? The benefit of the Red series is longer warranty provided, but according to WD:
http://support.wdc.com/warranty/policy2.asp
Warranty service will not be provided unless the Product is returned to an authorized distributor, authorized reseller or regional WD return center where the Product was first shipped by WDWD also have a page where you enter the serial of the hdd and it tells you if your warranty is valid:
http://websupport.wdc.com/warranty/warrantycheck.asp?custtyp…So if you buy a hdd from amazon will WD reject service because it will be outside the region it was first shipped to by WD?
You can transfer the warranty on the WD drives to the local region.
how to transfer?
How?
I happen to have a US drive and it shows up as 'Warranty Invalid - Out of Region' on http://websupport.wdc.com/
Send an email to WDC ie open a ticket. They will give you a case number. In my case i called the US WDC support for red drives. They will ask for the Proof of purchase and the transfer will be done in 3-5 working days.
Thanks for the info! :)
I know these are designed for NAS but are they ok for regular PC use?
No problem, but they're designed for reliability rather than speed.
What's the real world speed of these drives? Are they slow like the WD Green Range, since they seem targeted at networked Storage?
What I don't understand with the Red drives is that they're recommended for NAS use but only up to five bays.
Same "limitation" with seagate NAS drives.
I asked both WD and Segate via their facebook pages what I should populate an eight or twelve bay NAS with - and both said I should get their more expensive enterprise drives!
What I don't understand with the Red drives is that they're recommended for NAS use but only up to five bays. Same "limitation" with seagate NAS drives.
It has to do with the amount of vibration. Too much vibration will affect the lifespan and performance of hard drives.
Even shouting at hard drives can affect them…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4
Damn my dyslexic eyes! They told me + Shipping Free!