eBay sticks it to the little guy... again! (eBay Final Value Fees - Now Including Postage!)

figarow on 27/03/2014 - 10:59
Last edited 27/03/2014 - 11:49 by 1 other user

Just when you thought eBay couldn't get any worse we find that greed knows no bounds in the latest eBay assault on sellers. Now thanks to the unsatisfied greed of eBay sellers must also pay fees on the postage price of their listings. This will push many sellers to close up shop. eBay likes to say "make it free postage", problem is free postage means the seller must pay all the fees to eBay meaning the postage costs of the item is also being taxed to eBay. Not fair? You bet it's not fair!!

Official eBay email Announcement of the changes…

In an increasingly dynamic ecommerce environment, we're committed to driving your success on eBay. As a leading Australian shopping destination, eBay must continue to adapt for the benefit of all users, sellers and buyers.

There are a number of important updates and changes coming in the Autumn Seller Release, a quick overview of each are set out below.

From 6 May 2014 selling fees (final value fees) will be charged on the total cost of a sale, i.e. the sale price + postage cost.

With more than 60% of items sold on eBay.com.au already offering free postage, the new way of calculating final value fees means all sellers pay a fee based on the total sale price, whether postage is included in the cost of an item or charged additionally. Customers love free postage and we know it can help increase the likelihood of a sale. If you can't make it free, make sure it's reasonable.

If you currently offer free postage on most of your items, this change will have little or no impact on you".

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      • bluedufflecoat on 27/03/2014 - 20:07

        Sorry. I meant when eBay tries to encourage sellers to offer free postage, is it for buy it now listings only or normal auctions as well?

        • Tragus on 27/03/2014 - 20:15

          Sellers will still be able to charge separate postage, however ebay will now include that in the final value fee. Previously the postage part was exempt from the FVF. Even before this came in, if you sold something for 99c and the postage was $10 you would lose money.

          It will stop people charging 99c, then $60 for postage in order to skip out on fees.

          The sellers that do the right thing (like me), will also pay more though.

    • whodidthat on 27/03/2014 - 20:02

      It is for all listings.

      Listing something at auction for 99c these days is a huge risk (unless item is in high demand).

      • StuffnStuff on 01/04/2014 - 09:58

        People used to list at 99c to reduce their listing fees but now with the first 40 ads being free with all the add ons like extra pictures, scheduling etc a 99c auction is not really needed unless its only worth 99c…..or you want to induce some excitement amongst bidders.

  • Third_Gear on 27/03/2014 - 18:48
    +2

    This is the motivation I needed to get our new website up and running so I can put some proper investment into Adwords. I've been putting it off for a while now…

    Ebay does my head in… constantly changing policies and sales processes. They make so much money why do they need that little bit more? WTF are they planning to do with all their cash?

    • OBone on 27/03/2014 - 21:37
      +4

      It's a corporate Goliath with an insatiable appetite.

      • frewer on 28/03/2014 - 16:01
        +1

        Ebay: feed me i'm very hungry …
        People: But you already eats ~10% of us …
        Ebay: No no no, you don't understand, i have to eat more to sustains my giant body.
        Question: Should we still use the 6000years old currency ? While everything in our society on this planet is changing rapidly.

    • johnno07 on 29/03/2014 - 19:27

      WTF are they planning to do with all their cash?

      Based on their previous acquisitions, I'd say their plan is to buy up all the competitors. And if they can't buy up Amazon, they will just merge and the world will be ruled by the Amabay monopoly.

  • dlakers3peat on 27/03/2014 - 20:39
    +3

    I sell on eBay and once this change comes into effect I will simply increase the item cost or the postage cost. either way eBay wins and the buyers lose.

  • compound on 27/03/2014 - 20:47
    +6

    eBay can get (foul language). Not selling no more stuff on there after this session. They're money hungry and hope someone else comes in and wipes them out.

  • OBone on 27/03/2014 - 21:43
    +1

    I wonder if TradeMe would like to expand across the Tasman.
    Perhaps team up with the likes of quicksales or fishpond?

    • King Tightarse on 27/03/2014 - 22:48

      Need full global reach from the start to be a real threat to Arsebay.
      Only Google, Amazon etc could do it in a way that competes.

      • OBone on 28/03/2014 - 20:09

        I was thinking more along the lines of a local competitor at this stage, not international.
        It was just a quick look, but I checked a couple of categories on both web sites.
        TradeMe has the category with many items in it and quicksales doesn't.
        They must be doing something right.

    • austrajoni on 28/03/2014 - 22:16

      That's actually a really good idea…you should ask both of them to consider it.

  • netsurfer on 27/03/2014 - 23:05
    +3

    eBay has been making things less and less pleasant for casual sellers with the constant increase in fees.

    For casual sellers, the postage cost is normally between $8 - $15 (unless you sell screen protectors or something which can be post as regular mail). Anyway, that translate to another $0.80 to $1.50 to FeeBay.

    I think most sellers will pass on the fees to the buyers.

    • 2ndeffort on 27/03/2014 - 23:27

      I think all sellers will pass the fee straight on in their prices, I would/will.

  • StopThatBus on 28/03/2014 - 00:02

    You could always sell your items on Gumtree. It's an alternative but it carries far less traffic.
    People sell on ebay because of that.
    The seller always pay for postage you physically go into the post office and pay it.
    Most of our store items postage is just a 60c/$1.20 stamp so it's not going to be to bad for us.
    Yes ebay is making a little more money through this. Store holders are getting an upgrade in free listings per month. eg. Basic 80 go to 200 free listings..
    It's also an even playing field everyone will pass on the fees which will just make it a little less competitive. Ebay isn't always the cheapest either. I have a few times bought items retail(Sale) and sold them on.
    I agree ebay is getting a bit harsh for people who just want to sell a few items a Month/Year I suspect that's why etsy is picking up business.

    • whodidthat on 28/03/2014 - 09:32
      +1

      That $1.20 will be $1.40 next week

      • StopThatBus on 29/03/2014 - 15:22

        Yepp.. All my Items that We sell are going up 10-20Cents. We'll probably absorb 1/2 of it with the extra 120 free listings ebay give up per month saving us 50c X 120 Free insertion fees = $60.

      • ronnknee on 29/03/2014 - 23:51

        Oh man, are they seriously increasing the postage?

    • stemcell on 30/03/2014 - 11:00

      Ebay own Gumtree.

  • chiefbodge on 28/03/2014 - 01:02
    +3

    eBay really sucks. With fees pushing 12% including paypal it pretty much writes off people selling low markup items such as electronics / computer parts. They're basically pricing themselves out of certain markets. Someone needs to take them on already. Wouldn't mind google having a go.

    I think anything over 5% is a rip.

    • sd4f on 31/03/2014 - 14:07

      12% is more than some religions!!!

  • Mysterious on 28/03/2014 - 04:18

    EBay are scared to lose buyers. They know sellers are stuck with selling on eBay as eBay have no real competitors in Australia. But for buyers, they could easily dtch eBay and go to a localbshop or small online store and buy the item. That's why sellers are treated like shit. I stopped using eBay. Rarely go on it now.

    • bluedufflecoat on 28/03/2014 - 10:14
      +2

      I'm inclined to agree with you.

      Lately, I've used eBay to compare prices and get a feel for how much it should cost (or less), and then google for similar items and find that it's cheaper to buy from an online store (or shock horror, a B&M shop). Thus, my shopping patterns are changing again. I am happy to wait for a good deal than to buy from eBay that often. I've even bought from aliexpress once (took almost 4 weeks to arrive but I was in no rush), because eBay didn't have the best prices.

      • whodidthat on 30/03/2014 - 09:27

        I generally find the same these days, sometimes even half the price off a "direct" website.

        Although I sell on there, I have to admit my prices are lower on my own websites.
        Most of mine are fairly low ticket prices and I need to cover ebay's (rising) costs.
        Selling off your own website is so much cheaper now. Back in 2006, my first website cost $1,000 to build and $25 a month to host (as well as domain name, etc.,).
        I'm having that site rebuilt at the moment (totally new setup) at a cost of $400 & $5 a month hosting.

        Why is ebay increasing costs when hosting, etc., is decreasing?
        Probably because they're losing business through their own greed, stuff ups & glitchy dinosaur site.

    • sparkles on 30/03/2014 - 11:00

      Do they forget that their sellers are also buyers?

      • whodidthat on 30/03/2014 - 11:19
        +1

        Yes, they also forget that sellers are their customers.

  • StuffnStuff on 28/03/2014 - 07:50

    Ebay are Double Dipping….. If you are posting items, there is a 99% chance that the buyer will pay you via Paypal (Also owned by Ebay). They already charge you a fee on the total transaction cost ie Item Plus postage.

    So now Ebay get two fees for the same sale.

    • sd4f on 31/03/2014 - 14:08

      insert xzibit meme on how ebay puts fees on your fees…

  • StuffnStuff on 28/03/2014 - 08:01
    +11

    Free Postage Warning - Offering Free postage sounds good and I admit that I'm attracted to buying items that offer free postage… a great marketing ploy. The problem arises for the seller if the buyer wants to return the item or disputes an item.
    If free postage is NOT offered, you only have to refund the cost of the item, the buyer pays for the cost of shipping both ways.
    If you use the free postage option eg $20 Item which includes $10 postage, the seller would have to refund the full $20…..so you loose out again.

    • punter1 on 28/03/2014 - 10:54
      +1

      really good point ++1

    • itsfree on 28/03/2014 - 11:19

      Yes very true. Thanks for raising this.

    • figarow on 29/03/2014 - 09:23

      didn't think of that cheers for the heads up boss!!

    • ronnknee on 29/03/2014 - 23:52

      Charge the buyer a restocking fee equal to the postage.

      • chipstss on 30/03/2014 - 23:05

        pffft no one is falling for that.

  • backpaqer on 28/03/2014 - 08:39
    +3

    The real problem for us here in Australia (and the US) is that our postage systems are now quite exy when you want to compete with the likes of China who must be operating under some mega-government subsidised postage system when you consider what they can send us for the prices they send us with free postage. Some things that they sell for a couple of bucks with free postage would cost us nearly $40 just to send to the next suburb here.

    So this benefits China…unless eBay calculates a simple scaled system that is uniformly applied across all items globally to determine a fee (unless pickup option selected).

    • Speckled Jim on 28/03/2014 - 10:21

      They already Geo-block to a degree. Items you see in an overseas store are sometimes completely hidden depending on the domain you're using.

  • pitufon on 28/03/2014 - 08:51
    +1

    This is stupid. eBay should have a % cap of the item value vs postage costs rather that f@#$ everyone up. I

  • itsfree on 28/03/2014 - 11:13
    +7

    I used to love and defend eBay because of my repeated excellent experiences with them, but this is indefensible. They've turned me into a hater. I include a small handling fee in my flat rate postage prices to cover petrol and packaging – there is no reason for them to take a cut from this. Another fee adds up for someone who's sold over $10k in just three years.

    And to those who say to just use Gumtree – most of my customer base are in remote suburbs, so shipping is a must. Further, I have had nothing but negative experiences with Gumtree (scammers, lowballers, morons who don't read the listing, morons who waste half my day asking questions and then not buying, people who pull out of the sale even after I've travelled an hour to meet them half-way).

    So, essentially, what I'm saying is that we desperately need an alternative to eBay, as they are truly ripe for disruption now. They are abusing their market position.

  • godofpizza on 28/03/2014 - 11:14

    i gave up selling on ebay after being force fed policies and fee.

  • banzini on 28/03/2014 - 11:22
    +1

    simple, just don't use it.
    I don't anymore and I used to be a power seller.

    • itsfree on 28/03/2014 - 11:57

      What's the alternative? And don't say Gumtree.

      • austrajoni on 29/03/2014 - 22:52

        Quicksales and fishpond. I use both and also Gumtree and do better on each of those than eBay in one year. I sell about 600 lots or items a year online in a variety of categories.

  • scotty on 28/03/2014 - 13:27
    +1

    For merchants & sellers, there's always option of setting up your own website, use many other subscription-based ecommerce suits (BigCommerce, Shopify, etc) or fee-free sites such as QuickSales.com.au. The platform itself is easy, but I guess what eBay provides is the "marketing". So are you willing to pay 10% "commission" to eBay for the items you sold? Alternatively there are many small boutique shops trying to promote their stuffs on this website although the community there are cheapskates and will vigorously shooting down bad offers :)

    For off-loading unwanted items, garage sales, etc — yes there are Gumtree, QuickSales, etc. Also OzBargain Classified due to popular demand. Another site that we've been running ads for is Oddswop which is a Sydney-based startup targeting local/community sales. Not free though, but a lot cheaper than eBay.

  • compound on 28/03/2014 - 16:06
    +8

    How about Ozbargain set up their own eBay. We can call it OzBaygain. lol

    Gets pitchfork out

    • chipstss on 30/03/2014 - 23:10

      We have classifieds section.

      • pitufon on 01/04/2014 - 07:27

        must be a contributor though. not for everyday folk

  • coolhead on 28/03/2014 - 16:08
    +3

    WTF… yeah read it this morning in their email.. this is bullshit… now charging on postage as well… just another way of making more $$… as it is they charge around 10% of Sale price….

    there needs to be another better platform..

  • goosegog on 28/03/2014 - 16:12
    +1

    Don't do it - find another way to sell your goods. I do agree that Gumtree should not be an option.
    The more of us all who refuse to use E-Bays extortionate demands may result in them re-thinking their strategy.

  • Gdsamp on 28/03/2014 - 20:13
    +8

    Operation Boycott Ebay 2014

  • 00 on 28/03/2014 - 21:58

    eBay account delete?

  • sn00ze on 28/03/2014 - 22:13
    +3

    I've recently found quicksales.com.au
    No fees, OZ based and while obviously not the traffic feePay has… I've still sold and bought stuff for a good price.

  • lousy on 29/03/2014 - 02:26
    +3

    wow, what a scam, i used to sell a lot on eBay back in the good old days (power seller as well), however through the years all they have done is made it harder and harder on the seller

    1) they introduced paypal and then FORCED sellers to provide it to buyers (previously was optional)

    2) they changed the rules so buyer protection only applies if paypal is used AND require sellers to use REGISTERED POST to prove an item has been sent. this made postage costs on small items exhorbitant if sellers wanted to protect themselves from dodgy buyers. (which i had one guy claim he never received a $100 item even though I had sent it and his feedback showed he always did this with paypal)

    This increased ebay fees by forcing sellers to use paypal which was additional revenue to them (percentage of final sale price + listing fee+ percentage of TOTAL including postage for the privilege of using paypal) and allowed them to effectively have no pay out to buyers in the event of a dispute because they simply reverse the paypal payment to the seller.

    3) they removed the ability for sellers to leave negative feedback on a buyer…?? even if said buyer never pays is extremely rude or dodgy?

    end of the day they made it extremely onerous and costly for sellers especially on cheaper items- after the above changes i have also chosen not to use ebay as a selling platform

    just another pathetic excuse for them to increase profit margins for themselves at the cost to sellers and ultimately buyers; very greedy ebay

  • poohah on 29/03/2014 - 05:00
    -1

    Its a combined problem with the Australian Government and Ebay, if anyone actually sits back and looks at what is going on the picture is quite bad..

    China Post subsidised their deliveries from China which is why most things out of China are free post.
    Australia post only takes money from deliveries originating in Australia, because of reciprocal rights to deliver it needs to deliver the articles flowing in from China which has increased 1000 percent and they have had to employ more people. To cover this they have increased their prices dramatically to send internally in Australia.

    So if you run a business in Australia you are up against free post from China and Australia Post increasing their prices, there is another increase in April.

    Everyone who uses this site think they are very smart as they find these amazing deals from Kogan ect and saves themselves $50-$100 on a new camera ect.

    This is a loop hole as the stupid Australian Government doesn't charge GST or Import tax on items under $1000 in Australia.

    So generally you go into a shop, waste the persons time looking at a camera ect and then buy it overseas.

    What is actually happening is you are circumventing the GST, so this weekend when you break your arm and try to go to a hospital it might not be there or if you want to take your kids to a playground it might not exists or even the shop where you are wasting the people time will not exist.

    All because we think we are being smart by saving $50 but really we are not supporting Australian businesses and the money is pouring out of the country.

    Its a loophole that the government needs to plug to protect retail in Australia but have a think about the next time you save $50 what impact this has on Australia..

    Yes I know this is harsh and I expect negative comments but if it makes you stop and think about your buying choices then at least it was worth it.

    • StopThatBus on 29/03/2014 - 15:53

      Most OS items purchased online are more than 10% cheaper.
      Australians are and have been price gouged buy high taxed and big corporations eg.. Apple, Sony, Adobe.. Just look at prices in the US. and were closer to where it's made (mostly China)
      The government could charge 10% on items under $1000 but what concerns me is there are probably 100 of 1000's of items coming into Australia every week via customs. How much will it cost in labor to process and check these items.. Well that would create some jobs. Maybe it's a good idea even if it does just cover costs.

      • poohah on 30/03/2014 - 07:11

        I lived in Brazil for a number of years that has 100% import tax, 60% of the products used internally in their country are a national product meaning produced in their own country, the taxes on the good support the wages policing it.

  • cannedhams on 29/03/2014 - 07:41

    It seems like markets can really only have one large auction site. Nz has trademe and Japan has yahoo auctions. In neither case has eBay managed to gain a foothold, although potentially that's because both of those alternatives are cheaper. Who would pay to use eBay if you can use yahoo auctions for free?

    • whodidthat on 31/03/2014 - 08:47

      I didn't know Yahoo were still running an auction site anywhere. We used to have it in UK until they gave up.

  • backpaqer on 29/03/2014 - 07:47

    Can we use trademe.co.nz?

    • toolmech on 29/03/2014 - 10:58

      Yeah Aussies can buy and sell there. If you want to sell there though you must have an NZD bank account, which is an absolute pain in the arse to try and organize from AU. I ended up just going into a branch last time I was transiting AKL airport!

  • King Tightarse on 29/03/2014 - 11:55
    +9

    Ebay obviously think that no matter how much they increase their fees, that people will just take it up the pooper. Sure they'll have a whinge, but they'll eventually get used to it - so they think. They know they are being utter scabs but they obviously think they have us by the nuts. Not a good feeling as a customer, the squirrel grip.

    One day a solution will come, another equal player will challenge them and eBay can get solidly phucked. I will enjoy that day and enjoy them come crawling back to us the customers with all sorts of magical discount fee offers which will suddenly be available.

    A greedy monopoly just like the Trading Post or Telstra in the old days.

    Look at the Trading Post now, a valueless sad joke. Never looked like it would happen then BANG over in moments. Man, I hope that happens to eBay.

    Greedy scab bastards.

    • punter1 on 29/03/2014 - 13:50
      +1

      +1
      can't agree more, u nail it.

    • compound on 29/03/2014 - 21:27

      lol scabs. scaBay.

  • nowlan on 29/03/2014 - 16:47
    +2

    This shit should only apply if the postage exceeds item cost. That will prevent people jacking up postage to offset fees. Going to suck for people buying overseas. The postage is already bad.

    • StopThatBus on 29/03/2014 - 19:53
      +2

      That's a valid idea.

      But you got me thinking:

      If eBay want to make commission on postage they can come and pick up the post from my house.

      +1 For greedy.

  • whodidthat on 29/03/2014 - 17:34
    +1

    From an ebay forum I am a member of:

    Ladies and Gentlemen please indicate when you have made an enquiry to the ACCC re the intention to charge FVF's on postage https://www.accc.gov.au/contact-us/contact-the-accc/general-…

  • whodidthat on 29/03/2014 - 17:37
    +1

    A post on that forum……How many of you have contacted the ACCC? Send through an enquiry… flood them so they actually look at it, It would amaze me if the TPA allows a company to charge someone for an unrelated service.. but then ive been wrong before

  • King Tightarse on 29/03/2014 - 18:05
    +8

    Postage is NOT a service they have provided or facilitated so very very dodgy of them to charge a % for it.

  • dragon7 on 29/03/2014 - 21:29

    OZB should open a selling site and charge 1% less fee than ebay, i will switch to using it instantly.

  • jason101 on 29/03/2014 - 22:11
    +5

    I hate ebay with a passion, they run a .com.au domain and connect Aussie sellers with Aussie buyers, they charge their fees on our gross prices (inc gst) so we pay them a commission on the 1/11th of the sale we don't even keep, now we have to pay a fee on postage.

    Plus eBay fees themselves are exempt from GST ie they dodge it (as they claim to operate out of European country) and pay our government nothing in taxes for pillaging our people.

    Seriously they are a curse…..what's worse they own their nearest competitor!

  • wbeer on 30/03/2014 - 00:26

    If im buying a big item - I just message the seller to and ask for a discount if we do a Paypal only sale. They are happy to split the 10% rort. And you get the same protection through paypal.

    • jason101 on 30/03/2014 - 08:03

      Ehhh the same buyer protection does not apply through paypal alone - "not as described" excuse - doesn't exist / wont pay out on. If a seller can prove they dispatched and you received, I think you'll have little chance of any sort of claim working.

      • punter1 on 30/03/2014 - 09:02
        +1

        yes, it does.
        u can call paypal to confirm 1800 073 263

        if u buy from sellers with good feedback, then u won't have any problems.

        • jason101 on 30/03/2014 - 16:13

          I'd suggest trying to make a claim and see what happens. I know as people try to charge back on us all the time after buying outside of eBay - not once has it been honoured by paypal as they have no way to verify the purchased items description in order to reference it as "not as described".

          https://www.paypal.com/au/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_pbp-info-outsi…

          Dispute resolution on PayPal purchases.

          When you pay with PayPal, you gain access to a forum for dispute resolution called the Resolution Centre. Through it, you can issue a dispute or claim against:

          A physical item that you paid for but never received.

          A physical item you purchased on eBay that is significantly different from what was described in the listing.

          Dispute Resolution specialists gather information about your transaction and help you resolve the issue. Throughout the process, you’ll be advised of your claim’s status via email and on your Account Overview page.

        • wbeer on 30/03/2014 - 22:05

          Obviously an eBay description is more substantial than a single line invoice. You just have to be specific so there is no misunderstanding if it escalates to a claim.

          The protection is the same though.

    • lousy on 31/03/2014 - 13:21

      also its against "ebay policy" to deal outside of ebay.
      seller can get suspended.
      They have become so paranoid they won't even allow me to send an email address through their messaging system which is ridiculous because so many sellers dont have their paypal accounts set up correctly and I can't even send them confirmation of which email address their funds were paid into

  • Aceboy884 on 30/03/2014 - 00:29

    Building your own site is hard work

    the problem is, their cost per sale is still lower than Adwords

    So unless you get a lot of organic traffic or return customer, eBay still a lower cost market place.

    but moving forward, our ads on eBay will have a $3 postage fee, this will cover the cost of adverts fees on feebay

    every market place are price driven, there was a perception you find the best deals on ebay,, but not anymore

    Overtime, customer will start shopping direct rather than through eBay.

    We are seeing this trend grow, we now sell less than 20% on eBay vs our store.

    PayPal keep calling us to use their service on our website, I simply tell them nicely to go screw someone else

  • juventino on 30/03/2014 - 01:21
    +2

    some sellers have tried to find loophole to decrease their fees.

    I bought a bottle of perfume recently with reasonable postage fee.

    Everything is perfect, paid for it. items arrived in a few days.

    I was happy with the product. Then the seller emailed me asking me if I would mind cancelling the transaction so he can save on ebay fees.

    Since I was satisfied with his service, I said why not ? He refunded me the money and I transferred it back to his bank account outside ebay. Ha Ha Ha

    • sparkles on 30/03/2014 - 11:07
      +2

      Risky for the seller. You may not have re-paid after your refund.

  • poohah on 30/03/2014 - 07:23
    +1

    Amazon are setting up as we speak to hit Australia, the only reason why Ebay has a hold in Australia is because we don't have Amazon here, as soon as they get their distribution centres here they will kill Ebay, unfortunately they will kill many other smaller businesses are they work on Razor Thin margins we can not survive on, their retail is our wholesale..

    • sparkles on 30/03/2014 - 11:08
      +1

      If Amazon set up I will likely switch to selling via the Marketplace for things like movies and games.

  • neonlight on 30/03/2014 - 09:34

    Thing is what can you do when gumtree is full of spammers and dodgy buyers.

    Say I want to sell my phone eBay is probably the best option cause of big audience and if you do it right you do get your money. But the fees are high.

    So what can you do really?

    • whodidthat on 30/03/2014 - 11:21
      +1

      The answer is to keep using but at the same time voice objections if/when necessary to try and "keep them in line" otherwise they will do what they want.

      Remember, they had to back down over Paypal only so it can be done.

    • outlander on 31/03/2014 - 23:16

      Bail on the bill?

  • effgee on 30/03/2014 - 21:26

    I can't believe no-one has mentioned craigslist ? Isn't that huge in the US, works here but just not popular ?

    [edit] oops, just read feebay bought 25% in 2004

    • chipstss on 30/03/2014 - 23:00

      Gumtree is better for local listings(owned by ebay also) but no one comes close to FeeBay for actually selling stuff you have to ship.

  • chipstss on 30/03/2014 - 22:58

    Stuff this I'm moving to a different websit…… wait.. fudge darnit.

    • neonlight on 03/04/2014 - 09:26

      Let eBay die. Sellers are getting ripped off its no longer a place to do small sells of anything unless you got mass scale coverage with your own warehouses and logistics sorted from China.

  • peter on 01/04/2014 - 07:23

    eBay is not your friend, it is a business, so don't be surprised and upset, just say FU eBay and walk away, take your business elsewhere. I'm surprised people invest so much emotional energy and time into an online auction site. eBay is not a democracy, they can make whatever rules they like.

  • drspy00 on 01/04/2014 - 13:12

    This is really annoying news, not only that but Australia post upped their prices this week too. I sell internationally, so im wondering are sellers required to put free post for all? or can you put a postage cost but it just takes a percentage out of that?

    If only there was a good alternative to ebay I think ebay would find lots of people jumping ship.

  • whodidthat on 02/04/2014 - 11:38

    It does go on a bit, but anything is worth a go https://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/ebay-com-au-review-ex…

  • compound on 05/04/2014 - 13:27

    On another note, eBay doesn't even display the fee breakdown of your sales - it's just automatically charged onto your Paypal or Bank account. You'll need to work that out manually. Dodgy…

  • austrajoni on 29/04/2014 - 09:32

    I've just noticed the amount of listings on quicksales has gone up a lot in the past week and I've had a number of new buyers buy off me on there in the past 3 weeks.

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