thought Kogan's one is the cheapest but turns out this is the cheapest for AU Stock guys
iPhone 5S 16GB Only $809 at Harvey Norman
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But when you come back in dont you have to pay GST and duty? Because retailers want a level playing field.?
nar, u can leave with ur phone and get GST back, and comnig back, u dont have to declare anything that is under is worth 900 bucks. And just to clarify, worth 900 bucks is market value too, so should be depreciated, so if u bring out something that costed you, say for arguement sake, $1000. But because you have now used it, it is worth $850, you shouldn't have to declare it.
its about ur ability to resell the item when you bring it back that matters too.
This is my belief, fine detail, but in practice. No one gives really lol bring anything back and don't declare, i havent heard of any stories of being bag chcked for high value items.
Why arent the retailers complaining about that then?
Esp if customs dont care about people bringing back high end items to sell.Surely they should care because it's not a level playing field?
Am I wrong?
To 'save' on gst like that you also have to buy a $500 plane ticket.
If you bring back electrical or other goods into Australia that are 'in use', not new, not for resale than no import tax due.
A traveller cannot be expected to pay import tax repeatedly on an expensive laptop or camera, etc that they carry with them and use during travels.
Depreciation doesn't work like that…
I got a TRS refund on a iPhone 5 last year… when i returned i was randomly stopped for a bad search.. they found the iPhone 5 and discovered i had got a refund. As per the terms and conditions of the scheme i was charged the GST as i returned with the item. So #justsaying
Did you have the phone in the box in your bag?
Or your friend, or someone in your family…
Can't remember where in the policy it says plane tickets have to be $500,I recently flew out of Australia to Auckland for $99.
It was an arbitrary figure. You can't buy $99 tickets on the spot anytime you want to buy a new device.
I hope I don't get stopped for a "bad search". Scary.
He must be really unlucky and stupid.
First of all, good under $900 dont have to be declare and they cant charge back the gst you already claim.Even if the good is over $900. There is no way for custom to prove that you are bring the same phone back. They dont check or record the phone serial number or imei number at the GST refund process. All they did is check the receipt and check if you have that item on you. If your phone is in use. How will they prove that the phone you are bringing back is the same phone you brought out? Unless you still have the phone and its original packaging in your bag, you could just tell them you gave the phone you claim tax on to a friend oversea as a gift and the one you bringing back is your personal phone that you brought with you. I mean you dont have to declare how many phone you took out of the country right.
Then again this is the same guy who said his mate told him that HN are importing phone in bulk when HN are selling Australian version of the phone and he # everything he said so he could just be lying.
Customs have to prove that the item you took out of Australia is the same item you brought back. They don't record any specific details.
A friend of a friend took a high valued item out of Aus and claimed TRS (Engagement ring + wedding ring). They did a bag search and questioned him for 30-45mins to try to get some form of ADMITTANCE that it's the same ring. In the end they couldn't prove it was the same ring unless HE admitted it. Just make up some story about the ring was for your friend overseas who is planning to get married etc AND STICK TO IT
Or fly out with the ring and get a trustworthy friend to bring it home.
Customs take no record of the item you are claiming TRS - they do take a copy of the receipt and they write the description of the high valued item - so maybe get rid of your receipt overseas? or post it back?
maybe one day they will record the laser inscribed GIA diamond codes? meh not all stones have inscriptions.
I think it'll be a more effective discussion without your arbitrary figures and conduct some research first.
Jetstar is the new department store, they have sales every single week, finding cheap flights to new Zealand isn't hard at all. Maybe not the $99 flights I got, but not far from it. Unlike ur pluck a figureout and cclaim to be right.
I think it'll be a more effective discussion without your arbitrary figures and conduct some research first.
You're either completely missing the point behind my post, or are just trying to get into an argument.
If you really can't see the difference between charging GST on overseas internet purchases which anyone can do every day with a few mouse clicks, and travelling overseas just to claim back GST (only on items that you can carry onboard), well … have a good day then.
Hint: One of the above (supposedly) affects retailers way, way more than the other.
Unlike ur pluck a figureout and cclaim to be right.
Perhaps you just don't get the meaning of 'arbitrary'?
Very stupid. I wouldn't b keeping the box. And I'd just say … "I gave that one as a present to family". This one is the one iv had for 2 years now.
Sheesh.
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Very stupid. I wouldn't b keeping the box. And I'd just say … "I gave that one as a present to family". This one is the one iv had for 2 years now.
Yes, one could post the empty box back.
However, if you were stopped and checked about the phone, 'they' would have a record of the IMEI/Serial numbers from the receipt that you handed in on departure.
Do they make copies of the invoices? I don't remember them scanning them in?
However, if you were stopped and checked about the phone, 'they' would have a record of the IMEI/Serial numbers from the receipt that you handed in on departure.
Had you ever even make a refund claim at the airport?
You dont hand in your invoice. They dont scan or take a picture of your invoice, they just stamp it so you cant use it to make another claim with it.(that how it was last year when i claim my ipad)Even if they did some how record your invoice, no invoice ever have the phone imei or serial number in it anyway. Dont talk about something you dont know about please.
no invoice ever have the phone imei or serial number in it anyway Dont talk about something you dont know about please.
Strange. All mine from the Apple Store(s) and from carriers include the IMEI.
Yes, I have claimed tax back. Perhaps because it was over $1,000 they kept my paperwork from DFS Galleria.
You dont hand in your invoice. They dont scan or take a picture of your invoice, they just stamp it so you cant use it to make another claim with it.(that how it was last year when i claim my ipad)
I travel overseas about 6 times a year, and I've used the TRS at SYD about 20 times — with a few of my invoices being for amounts over $2k. I've never had the officer scan or photocopy my invoice — like you said, they just stamp it. They do enter some details into their computer, though, so they might enter serial or IMEI numbers if listed on the invoice.
no invoice ever have the phone imei or serial number in it anyway
All of my recent phone purchases included the IMEI and/or serial on the invoice, but it probably depends on the policy of the store you bought it from — I don't think there's any legal requirement for the IMEI to be put on the invoice.
YMMV. ;)
Well i bought my ipad and phone from The Good Guys and they didnt have any serial number or Imei number on them. So i may be wrong about the imei part, but they will have to go through your phone to get the imei number which they do not have the right to as it would be an invasion of privacy.
they will have to go through your phone to get the imei number which they do not have the right to as it would be an invasion of privacy.
Are you serious? They can search your phone, your iPad, your PC, your person… insides as well.
Why on earth would they go searching for your IMEI? Is it associated with a crime? I think you're stretching things a bit…
Good logic but $100 might buy a one way flight. How about coming back?
Won't have to declare GST if it's less than $900 http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page4352.asp
[Edit] Lol I might have misread your reply:P
lol, stay in new zealand? its a nice place :)
only around 720ish
$735.50ish I believe.
Good price
Any HN codes that can be used to reduce the price further?
Available in-store only, so you can't add any coupon code.
I must be getting old, 'only' $809 for a phone with 16GB?
my thoughts exactly.
because the quality says it all ;), worth your extra bucks for hassle-free warranty mates
Apple warranty is the best.
Thts True, but it depends who serves you.
I brought my Samsung GS3 for repair due to overheat and hang/frozen, the repair centre is far away…. and the respond I got is due to I've dropped the phone before (a slighly small crack on the upper right corner glass, not the LCD), it's no longer under warranty…
Vice Versa, my friend brought his iPhone 5 mentioned that the speaker sounds is a bit low, they exchange and give him a new one without any test.
A refurbished one I reckon
I brought my outright HTC One back to the Telstra store I bought it from when I had a pattern appear in dark photos. They just gave me a new (refurb?) replacement phone. Easy.
Who wants to use a 4" phone these days and $809 is way overpriced.
value is what someone is willing to pay, and there are MILLIONS upon millions of people willing to pay it. so it is worth that much.
Not that i'd pay that much for a phone, im with ya on that. But it is cheap, relative to what you can get else where and that is what matters.
smartphones aren't for everyone, 'old' should just stick to nokias ;)
Not just any phone, but a phone with iOS which has tons of inconvenient restrictions.
That's hilarious…
Its amazing how much people are willing to pay for a mobile device..
Only Apple fan boys will pay.
Dunno about fanbois but definitely can spot a few haters in this post.
You are non-iPhone user, that makes you smarter than others?
Absolutely
How many sold lol
Not many I guess, atleast Htc use real gold unlike apple. :D
so true….it makes you wonder if it is really worth almost 4x the price of htc 8X….or two low end laptops…i am iphone user (company phone) and proud ozbargainer and would never pay that much for any phone…. $350 max for I5 or sg4
$509 for a 16GB iPhone I may be willing…
yes that's a good deal, i'm not an apple fan and don't own one anymore (HTC One and Windows atm) but they would def be worth that price range, it wont happen with the S but likely the C will eventually be down below or around 500
I still can't believe people are paying nearly a thousands dollars for a phone. "only" lol.
my thoughts exactly…
I guess for apple if they reduce the price it will cheapen the brand… :) i moved away from them due to the screen size and not much difference between high end androids and apple phone apart from the gimmicky stuff all the top brands bring out.. :) and i paid a heck of a lot less for a great phone.. hehehe
My thought's exactly. Like they say though… a fool is easily parted from their money :)
Nothing close to a bargain.
poster below confirmed from DSE this is sold below cost. If that is not a bargain, its hard to say what is.
Huge profit goes to Apple. Retailers do not get anything does not mean it is a bargain.
Sorry, but that is no reason for a neg vote.
I guess beggars can't be choosers. Only the poor thinks $800 is expensive for a phone.
It is expensive for a phone, you don't have to be poor or rich to figure that out. Most flagship phone's are below $800, the cheapest being $399 as in the nexus 5…
Not at all. I personally buy iphones just like people buy bread.
Agree. Especially with the - "only" lol - part. It would need to also make coffee and doughnuts at that price. But then, if you are happy with it and can afford it (and afford to drop it), why not?
Why some people buy BMW? Korean car only half the price and does the job well.
Ehhhh.. Not really a good comparison. Androids phones have as good, sometimes better build quality, features, specs, etc. Yet iPhones are the most expensive on the market.
A Kia is not going to equal a BMW, no matter how you look at it! Except price… :)
It's not about the hardware… it's about the whole package… but I have given up trying to talk that into android users.
Not a good comparison, just trying to make a point that people are buying not just because of price and features, but also experiments/brands, or maybe just the color, it's private choice, should not be judged.
I guess you also think Dyson are over priced gimmicks too then? cause for the price of one you could buy 10 of the cheap brands from kmart?
It's not about the hardware… it's about the whole package… but I have given up trying to talk that into android users.
This!!
This!!
That would have been true 2 years ago, but a lot of things have changed since then.
The whole package? Yep, i love being forced to use itunes, not being able to install whatever i want… Thats the dream.
Re: Dysons - I own one, got a massive bargain that still hasn't been beaten.
They are a superior product.
iPhones and android are comparable products. But I like how one comment is about the "package" you get with an iphone, yet the next starts comparing features/price.. Bravo.
Yeah its fair enough but iphones are like toyotas they hold their value.
iPhone 5 Bought last year for $999 sold second hand for $700
Galaxy S3 Bought around same time for $799 at the time.. sold for maybe $200Apple products are priced high yes, but when u upgrade they hold their value.
I buy a new iMac every two years and usually half the cost of the new one is covered by selling the old one
iPhone 5's go for $400 or so now
They are smart phones, they are more like portable computers/gps/language translators etc. I don't consider iphones good value, but this price is a bargain compared to everywhere else selling them. You can't neg on the basis that you consider the price too high for a phone. Do you know of an iphone 5s selling for less?
tried pricematch at DickSmith and they said this would cost below their cost -> no deal ;(. Meanwhile, for people who got the 10% off gift card deal from DickSmith, still worth it if you get the 64GB version for $100 less or you can get Wish Gift Card to gain 5% off
one thing i dont understand is why go price match, when u can go just buy for that price at the store offering it….
price matching just isn't a incentive, unless the offering retailer is out of stock.
am i missing something?
coz lots of ozbargainers have discounted gift cards from DSE…
because not everywhere has Harvey Norman, and DickSmith has just RRP which is 869
What about if the store in their town has no stock? Or there's incentive such as a further discount? That's mostly the reason's for trying to PM I believe, those are my reasons, especially dicksmith deals. :)
Cause its easier to go to apple store instead of harvey …. in Perth that is.
That's not AU stock, as the post mentions.
He said AU stock mate, hope you understand what Kogan is selling.
Maybe you can get Apple to price match this ;)
I called apple broadway and they refused to match price on the 5s , they told we price match 4s , 5c but not the 5s.
So can ACCC do something about this?
What? You're going to get the ACCC to try force a business to price match?
I tried the Apple store Perth and Garden City (in person). Both stores refused and I was told they will price match on any other iPhone just not the 5s.
Even better when you combine with Harvey Norman/Amex deal (Spend $120 or more, get $30 credit)…
So $779 in the end
Question: can we get HN do 6 separate invoices lol
Is it like the DJ offer? (save to my card) Could you share a link please?
Log into your account. Click "Offers and Places".
If you don't see that offer, it means it has expired before saving.
The actual deal after saving it expires 31 Jan 2014.
be careful that they might stop you because I stopped once by BigW and they said based on counterfeit rules or something, I was like, 'Do I look like a fraud?', 'I was trying to save only by splitting the bill' lol
if i am not wrong, HN t & c stated exclude apple products.. this is what i read from the previous forum
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take it overseas and it'll end up only around 720ish. Not too bad, a flight to new zealand can be as low as $100, the the flight almost pays for itself.