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  newex on 10/06/2013 - 12:10

  +3

  So the bargain is that for free I get to fill in a 20 minute questionnaire to gain access to the opportunity to buy stuff. wow… Just wow.

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    chewbot on 10/06/2013 - 12:15

    I think you get to buy stuff directly that you would otherwise have to go through a naturopath to get.

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    killergreely on 10/06/2013 - 12:19

    c'mon, snake oil at a cut rate, bargain!

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  c64 on 10/06/2013 - 12:12

  -1

  quack quack quack

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  emptypocket on 10/06/2013 - 12:20

  -5

  Naturopaths… Might as well just get advice from some random on the corner of the street. Probably more valuable plus its free. Don't know how naturopath's think they can charge for their unsupported advice.

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    dr_ rusko on 10/06/2013 - 15:20

    +1

    i think the people who negged you (not me) did so b/c you have not brought any evidence to support your statement re "random on the corner of the street" vs natropath

    ironic hey…

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  iluvbargains on 10/06/2013 - 12:58

  if you don't normally visit a naturopath, this probably going to interest you. Normally, if you want to get more product from the naturopath, you have to book another appointment (mine cost $90 per appointment), to just basically get another 'script'. This allows you to get refills without having to book and pay for a consultation every time.

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  cpho on 10/06/2013 - 13:18

  So… you have to do a survey, AND sign up to be able to get some psudo-medicine?
  Is there a discount for signing up? Free delivery?

  Else I'd say this is spam
  I dont see the freebie here, let alone a bargain..

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  bargaino on 10/06/2013 - 13:20

  Damn, I thought the offer was for a free Naturopathy Diploma in the mail.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cV…

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    c64 on 10/06/2013 - 13:52

    sssh! that's the beer industry's super duper secret - homeopathic largers. the companies are selling us piss-weak undiluted beers so they can charge us more.

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    dr_ rusko on 10/06/2013 - 14:30

    ha - I was just about to post a link to that page…
    very good

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  saxlady on 10/06/2013 - 14:48

  +6

  Gee I get tired of the continual bagging of naturopathic/homeopathic deals which are posted on Ozbargain from time to time. If you are not interested in the product why bother even viewing the deal let alone wasting your time commenting on it about placebo/snake oil etc?

  I have no time and use for body building powders (for example) I really don't care about bargains when it comes to them and no matter the discount, paying $20, $30, $50 however much is in my opinion a waste of money when you can be healthy, exercise with a balanced diet, eat lots of eggs or whatever. But I can accept that other people find them useful and appreciate a deal on them. So good luck to them.

  So how about - if you are not interested in voodoo alternate nutritional herbal supplements or whatever you want to call them - just ignore the deals that are posted!

  Thanks OP

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    bargaino on 10/06/2013 - 15:22

    +2

    On the contrary, if a product or service does not do what it advertises, I want to hear about it.
    In our society we are constantly being bombarded with dodgy advertising, and this website is one of the few places where consumers can speak back.

    You are right about protein supplements - it may have been comments here that led me to the evidence on that.

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      Telios on 10/06/2013 - 17:03

      +1

      Exactly. Naturopaths get the same treatment as other bad products like beats headphones or dodgy mechanics. This forum only discriminates to the benefit of the consumer.

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        saxlady on 10/06/2013 - 17:50

        -1

        Ok in that case - just like there are dodgy mechanics, I will agree that there are dodgy naturopaths who did receive their certificates in the mail - and they do make a bad name for everyone else. But there are also naturopaths who have to answer to a regulating board, do several years of study, placements etc to gain experience. There are countless stories of people who have been helped by naturopaths. A friend I was speaking to just yesterday was updating me on the health of her 3 year old daughter who had severe food intolerances and allergies and had been told by doctors thats just the way she was.

        They have recently been to a naturopath who put her on a diet and sorted out many of the issues. Previously she couldn't tolerate dairy, wheat, eggs, nuts and probably more. Now it's only milk that is a problem. They believe that as a baby when she was prescribed antibiotics it messed with her system and caused ongoing problems. (And I'm not against antibiotics when used correctly - they certainly have their place)

        This is not just some story from the internet (although for anyone reading it now is). This is life and a recent discussion with a friend.

        My point is that GPs and naturopaths have a different approach and I don't see why one has to exclude the other. There are dodgy mechanics, doctors, naturopaths - in every profession you'll get great people and not so good. It doesn't make the profession dodgy.

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        jdr on 10/06/2013 - 18:40

        -1

        "Ok in that case - …….."

        I agree with you 100%. I have no real knowledge or experience of naturopaths. Only a few weeks ago, a good friend and colleague of mine related a couple of stories of how his family has been helped. He's one of the few people who I really trust and respect the opinion of. So my mind is open on this subject.

        Even if I had no positive evidence, I would be disappointed if I negged through plain ignorance.

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        bargaino on 10/06/2013 - 21:21

        +1

        Anecdote != evidence.
        Naturopathy owes its existence to ignorance.

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        jdr on 10/06/2013 - 21:59

        It's more than an anecdote to me, but I agree that evidence was not the right word.

        Even the sceptics diary (some website I found) agrees that some of the Naturopath advice is sound. There's other more controversial stuff that I would have a hard time accepting. That doesn't mean that I think it has no place in the health field.

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        Telios on 14/06/2013 - 11:33

        -1

        Yeah I found that hilarious.

        Some naturopaths have to study!

        And my friends blah blah blah…great…so how about posting evidence of double-blind trials, or even independent testing to confirm active ingredients in products…

        No?

        They please do not pretend Naturopaths are doctors. I respect your right to choose just like you can choose a religion.

        But do not spout nonsense and pretend Naturopathy is a medical science.

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  Candour on 11/06/2013 - 20:49

  doctors have a license to kill like james bonds
  they get their education from pharmaceutical sales research to prescribe drugs which only beat placebos, not necessarily bettering the last generic drug which has gone off patent.
  there are conflicts of interest and side effects don't get mentioned
  worst with psychiatry which even doctors find hard to stomach because their disorders are invented and unproven drugs used with disastrous results.

  naturopaths do not have that license to kill so we denigrate them.

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    bargaino on 11/06/2013 - 22:59

    +1

    Doctors may be susceptible to drug reps, but a drug needs to be better than cheaper ones to get PBS funding.
    And doctors are not allowed to sell drugs for good reason.

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      Candour on 12/06/2013 - 09:14

      actually no;
      they only need to be better than placebos;
      they don't have to beat earlier drugs which have come off patent and thus are not better, just different enough so that big pharma can unduly influence GPs and psychiatrists etc to get us hooked on new unproven drugs with new side effects unknown;

      2. pharmacists also rip off consumers with their oligopoly which prevents free competition.
         the separation is tenuous when pharma and doctors are in bed together.

      3. pharma pays for doctor training [marketing junkets called conferences]

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      jdr on 12/06/2013 - 12:13

      "And doctors are not allowed to sell drugs for good reason."

      The don't directly sell them but they write the scripts that specify what you'll buy and they can easily be influenced to some extent by what that particular drug is tied to in the "rewards catalogue". Of course, not every doctor would do this but there are enough incentives to cause concern.