Seagate Backup Plus 4TB 3.5" USB3.0 HDD $179 Delivered @ DSE
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Seagate Backup Plus, easy backup for your digital life, both on your computerand in the cloud. The Seagate Backup Plus desktop drive simplifies backup for consumers who want to protect their entire digital life, stored locally, in the cloud or on social networks.
I believe that one is different, it should be this one at 197 http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Technology/Dat…
Incorrect. The drive in your link is the Seagate Expansion, not the Backup Plus that the OP has described. The same drive at OW is $197. Remove your NEG.
Check the model before posting comments like that.
Comparing apples with oranges? Are you for real?
OK Mangoo made a mistake. No need to crucify him. Many people including me coulda make the same mistake.
Whats the difference between the HDD's anyway?
OK Mangoo made a mistake. No need to crucify him.
Damn, I sharpened my pitchfork for nothing then…
Whats the difference between the HDD's anyway?
Short answer, completely different model Seagate product…better casing, dedicated backup voodoo, possibly better drive inside, blah blah…
It's a +ve for price but beware it won't be useful if using windows backup under whs-2011 and possibly win7 due to the 4k issue. Some get by with the sata connection method and not using the usb3.
For backups using 3rd party backup apps, works very well and price per gb excellent.
Not sure if it's the same model. Saw the same deal in-store this evening. It says save $20.
Yes same model, they are advertising it on TV too. $199 now $179
One drive or two internally?
Single drive - they arent big enough to hold two.
It's a single drive internally.
Based on the one sitting next to my laptop.
whats up with OZB today? ppl getting cranky over the holidays eh? first there's mangoo1 now there's nick
that 5 daily neg cap ain't gonna cut it
To whoever negged this, whats the point… don't you think it would be helpful for people to know.
I gave you the info you asked for, you made assumptions and made a dick of yourself, that's why people negged you. Drop the attitude and maybe you won't be looked upon so harshly.
Which external hard drives have you seen that hold two inside?
It's ridiculous that this is cheaper than a 3.5" Seagate drive from MSY, $190 for 4TB. If they're the same drive, which they might be, it's a great deal. I don't know why but external drives and internal drives have some weird pricing issues going on. 2.5" external drives always tend to be cheaper than internal counterparts!
External drives tend to be of lower quality i.e. run slightly hotter, use slightly more power, less reliable and usually run at 5400rpm instead of 7200/10000/15000. These are all things people don't usually mind about because they are either used as backups or to transfer files of their already existent data.
I think it best to keep it at 5400/5900rpm vs 7200rpm for the purposes of this discussion. 10k & 15k SAS drives are very different animals…
That said, it's entirely possible in this case that the drive within is actually a 7200rpm unit: http://www.amazon.com/anyone-platter-these-drives-7200RPM/fo…
And yet they can be the exact same drive marketed as internal…
Standard drives are heading towards 5400rpm while performance drives are staying at 7200rpm. Increased platter density mitigated any significant speed decrease so they're still fast enough to be usable on a daily basis or as an OS boot drive. As for heat, of course they'll be running hotter since they're in an enclosure that's barely bigger than the drive limiting airflow and hence heat dissipation, compared to a HDD in a case with ample space and significantly more airflow (ignoring dumb builds that somehow stop airflow…)
As for 10000/15000rpm drives I haven't seen those around for a long long time other than in server specific drives.
Externals are probably cheaper because of a larger market (external hard drives are easier to find lots of retailers sell them where as internal drives are specialised markets, the average Joe wouldn't normally know about installing multiple internal drives and not to mention laptop/all-in-one users who have no choice but to go external and laptop sales are catching up to desktops) and more "manufacturers" (although the drives are made by a small number of companies there are a flood of brands that sell external HDDs).
Does anyone know the different between the 'Expansion' and 'Backup Plus' - 4TB drives-
There seem to be a different casing and software- but is it faster/ more reliable?
well they're both usb 3.0, not sure about the actual RPM between the two though. I do know that the Backup Plus has, as the name suggests; backup features (which the Expansion does not). In terms of which is more reliable, well they are both hard drives.. so they will both eventually die, they are just a mechanical device - luck of the draw pretty much. I'd say go with the Backup Plus if you want more advanced features. If not, then Expansion will do.
There is some information at the Seagate site. http://www.seagate.com/au/en/external-hard-drives/desktop-ha…
Personally I'd MUCH rather have the "clean" Expansion drive rather than the BackupPlus that comes with (what appears to be) firmware-level software that cannot be removed (based on being caught out buying these types of crapware infested HDD in the past)
I just want a raw-drive that I can put MY stuff on there. Not have to work around and fight with the manufacturers ideas of how I should be using the product. Mine just hangs off the back of my WD-TV LIve as storage for media.
http://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/product-content/bac…
http://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/product-content/exp…
Is this one where you can remove the HDD without needing to modify anything?
i want to know this as well, as im looking at buying an internal HDD for my server.
7200rpm drive, easy to extract, no apparent fixed firmware on the drive. Reformatted, running well in my N40L.
how did you manage the n40l to read the full 4tb, mine is partitioning it to 2tb.
do i need to update the bios as I have not done anything to the bios.
I am actually running 3 x 4tb and 1 x 250gb.
Stock bios.
I think you only really need to alter the bios if you want a fifth HD internally. I needed an optical drive so new bios not needed for me.
Installed Windows 8 Pro on the 250gb, told it to 'ignor' the other 3 drives.
Then installed FreeNAS on an 8gb USB, internal slot, told it to 'see' the 3x 4tb drives in RaidZ.
Switch between the two using the boot priority in the bios.
This gives me a Windoze box for when I need it (all our other puters are macs) and a great server.
Windows 8 seemed to work with the 4tb drives fine before I did the final configuration, so are you using an earlier windows?
This is such a good deal (as I look over at my Seagate 2TB external drive I bought a year ago and thought that was a good deal) but I think I better resist temptation as I have absolutely no need for another USB hard drive.
how did you get free delivery? charge 9.95 delivered to seven hills nsw.
Same, 9.95 for delivery.
@dreambuds
Please see the following banner from DSE.
You will see free delivery is available for this item.
I think they are still updating .
Hope this helps
Have a good evening
http://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/62400/16846/au_735x325_…
thanks! will check again later.
works now. thanks!
Weird!!! Just bought one to be collected from store and it charged me $188.95!!!
As per confirmation page….
Item details Subtotal
1 x Seagate Backup Plus 4TB Desktop Hard Drive USB 3.0 $179.00
Item Subtotal $179.00
Collection Fee $0.00
Total $188.95
Total Includes $16.27 GST
Jeez, the Aussie dollar is even shit against itself now…
lol at the DSE website programmer
16.27 is the correct GST amount incl in $179 though no idea how they gotten $179.00 + $0.00 = $188.95
That's gonna be for delivery. It's a glitch in their system, happened to me before. They should charge you the right price when you collect it. If not, of course you should remind them of the correct price :-).
is this removable to put inside a pc?
also anyone know if these use 1tb platters?
Just ordered a couple from Office Works for $170.05 with 5% price match as they're still showing as $197 online.
what is the internal drive?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDp9sC3TT0s
ST4000DM000
you can use it as internal without removing external casing
Purchased.
- Used the video linked above to help me take out the drive from the case.
- Inserted into desktop computer.
- Deleted existing partitions, set drive as GPT (needed for >2TB drives).
- Formatted NTFS
- Profit?
Thanx OP.
Thanks for the info: ST4000DM000
Quite tempted to get one… so finding hard to find an excuse not to. 5900rpm drive, I think I will use that as an excuse.
I remember seeign a compariosn bettwen.. the two… the older 7200RPM drives, had less density versus the newer 1tb, wtih more dense platter… in the end there was very little difference and the 59090RPM, were definitely much cooler..
Given the fall in the Australian dollar.. I'd expect prices to rise around 10% in the next 1 to 2 months…
I've bought 4 of the things pricematched at officeworks..
Thanks. I happened to be in the market for a new backup HDD as my 1TB just doesn't cut it anymore.
I bought one of this from Amazon a few weeks ago. A few things:
1. Takes two seconds to remove the bottom plate to expose the SATA and power connector and the drive is then useable as an internal HDD with the casing still attached.
2. Takes another 15min to remove the casing if you prefer the look of a "bare" internal HDD
3. The left over casing can accommodate another HDD without issue. I put my old 2TB WD HDD in there (swapped out of the system where the 4TB went into).
Highly recommended! But the Amazon deal was cheaper, though AUD has since tanked.
how much was it?
what deal was it on ozbargain?
Dude… takes about 9 seconds to Amazon it yourself and see that it's USD$159 which makes it about $AUD$175 before shipping. (10% GST)
I picked one up at Officeworks today… the Expansion (non-crapware) version. Is currently copying across my +3TB of media to use as HDD #2 on my WD-TV Live. Currently has a HDD #1 @ 2TB WD drive that I also picked up via an OZB post about 12 months ago :)
Yeah I found the thread..
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/96919
Do u get AU power plugs with amazon deal?
Why get expansion model? The 4TB is better deal
For those that have ripped it apart, can you confirm the HDD model number you have? Or you dont have to take it out, just run crystal diskinfo, you should be able to tell the HDD model in there.
Whether it is a ST4000DM000 or ST4000DX000?
I thought I saw on the web saying if the manufacturing date was before some time (1/2013), that would be a 7200rpm drive, or else it will be the 5900rpm drive.
Can someone tell what you've got from this?
Thanks,
Inside mine I found a ST4000DM000.
5900rpm.
Averaging 120-130MBps writes (reading from SSD).
Do you still have the box? What is the manufacturing date printed on the box?
Cheers,
DOM: 03/2013
thanks.
Do you have the web site link for determining which drive is inside?
Hmmmmmmm….
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So has anyone had their orders fulfilled?
I don't really see any other portable HDD which I would like to see a discount for; I genuinely am needing a 4TB backup HDD.
Ended up receiving it today. Now that's pretty strange if it was on "back order". Anyway, all good; I'm setting it up for backing up my PC now.
mangoo1 on 09/06/2013 - 19:39 Comment score below threshold.
