Panasonic Lumix DMC-GF3 Camera Kit w 14-42mm OR 14mm Lens $389.95 + $7.95 Express Shipping

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  aim54x on 08/04/2013 - 10:01

  Very small, decent camera, and the 14mm is a good lens, worth almost as much the kit…..I have never used OO before though.

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    yamumma on 09/04/2013 - 14:08

    14mm can be had for around $180-$200 shipped on eBay (they were closer to $160 a few months back).

    14-42mm PZ is around $275 shipped.

    Therefore 14-42mm kit is the better deal if you base on price or if you plan to buy more lenses anyway.

    The 14mm at f2.5 is a nicer lens, buy one used, zoom with your feet.

    [edit: noticed it was the PZ model, not the old 14-42mm.]

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  geek001 on 08/04/2013 - 10:11

  Just curious, how would this compare to the similarly priced(@Harvey Norman) Canon EOS 1100D in terms of image quality? I would love to take DSLR quality photos on my holidays without the bulk if possible.

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    bbyboy on 08/04/2013 - 10:28

    http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/%28appareil1%29/763|0/%28brand%29/Panasonic/%28appareil2%29/693|0/%28brand2%29/Canon

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      geek001 on 08/04/2013 - 10:43

      Wow.. based on the graphs, the difference is huge… hmmm.. I guess I will pass on this.. Thanks.

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        bargainsniper on 08/04/2013 - 10:49

        +1

        Don't be fooled by the numbers. I doubt you'd tell much of a difference with your eye other than in low light

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        ozscharfschutze on 08/04/2013 - 10:59

        +1

        Agree with bargainsniper. I'm a Canon fan but in the small-end Panasonic wins. The Canon's advantage shows up in low light situations, but the video mode in the Panasonic is far superior (you actually get proper AF).
        Another area Canon has a slight advantage is depth of field for portrait photography, but if you are taking holiday pics it's neither here nor there.

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        bargainjargon on 08/04/2013 - 11:01

        +1

        Exactly. Plus, what good is a camera if it's too big to bring around with you wherever you go? If you like shooting with a DSLR then more power to you but I for one have been able to capture so much more memories and be more creative ever since I switched to a mirrorless camera.

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        jakentta on 08/04/2013 - 16:35

        Same for me. I've owned Canon 10D for years and 550D now for a couple of years and a few lenses. But since about half a year ago when I bought a second hand Olympus Pen E-P2 with the 20mm lens, I've taken so much more quality photos, for the simple reason that I have the camera with me far more often.

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        dyziplen on 08/04/2013 - 17:00

        +2

        Sensor is one thing, but the 14mm F2.5 is probably better than the kit zoom on the 1100D.

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  bargainjargon on 08/04/2013 - 10:56

  I've seen these go on special for around $300ish at Amazon (although they don't ship to Australia) and some other overseas stores. Also, the GF6 is coming shortly so anyone interested might want to keep an eye out for the eventual GF5 price drop. Or maybe the GF3 price will drop even further. But hey, if you need a camera right now then go for it.

  The Olympus PEN E-PM1 with kit lens is a little cheaper at Digidirect (although you don't get the option of getting the 14mm pancake lens). Shipping is around $15 but if you're near one of their stores then you can pick up.
  http://www.digidirect.com.au/slr_cameras/olympus/olympus_pen…

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  0_o on 08/04/2013 - 10:58

  $230 plus $28 shipping on this website:
  http://www.importstock.com.au/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gf3-kit-14…

  Anyone had experience dealing with import stock this website?

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  Melthar on 08/04/2013 - 10:58

  I purchased a GF3 recently as it was the best for my particular requirements (I needed a mono microphone, most cameras nowdays are stereo) and have so far been happy with the results

  It's a smaller sensor than the 1100D so it will tend not to handle low light situations as well, but so far I have found it does a decent job in such circumstances anyway, far better than any P&S camera.
  The smaller sensor allows a higher level of zoom with a smaller lens.

  If you are going to buy from OO, the 14mm is a very nice lens, and the 14-42 can be picked up fairly cheaply on Ebay (about $130 vs $200 for the 14mm)
  There are also 4 options for replacing the 14-42mm lens depending on needs (the standard 14-42 kit lens, the older but supposedly better 14-45, the 14-42 powered lens, and the 14-42mm MkII)

  The Olympus bodies using the same mount/format as the GF3 are also good options (Olympus PEN series and OM-D)

  Other good small body options are the Sony NEX series, or the Canon EOS M. The NEX seems to get the best reviews.

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    ozscharfschutze on 08/04/2013 - 11:03

    The 14-42mm in the kit is the power zoom, which costs more than the 14mm prime.
    You should only have to pay about 10% more for the equivalent GF5 kit now.

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      Melthar on 08/04/2013 - 11:06

      Ah, you're right, yeah the Power Zoom lens would be a nice pickup. The details list the correct lens, but not the title (should be the G X Vario for the Power Zoom version)

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      bargainjargon on 08/04/2013 - 11:36

      It has the power zoom on the pics but it doesn't say on the text. They should make that clearer. If it's the power zoom then it'd be an even better bargain.

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        TechAddict on 08/04/2013 - 12:11

        It is the power zoom lens. Stated near the bottom of page in the Package Contents section:
        1 X Panasonic G X Vario PZ 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 ASPH. Power OIS Len

        Hence why I think it is a good price for this or the 14mm lenses.

        Also added the X to the description of lens to clarify it is the powered zoom 14-42mm lens.

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    geek001 on 08/04/2013 - 11:13

    Very informative. I had a play with bbyboy's link above and did a comparison of the Sony NEX series vs Canon EOS 1100D. The numbers are pretty similar, so I am leaning that way at the moment. I had a Panasonic Lumix DSLR quite a few years ago, can't remember the model. I bought it because it was cheap(I was working for the distributor at the time) but it wasn't very good. It didn't perform much better than my P&S camera from the pictures I took, IMHO. Maybe it was a user error, I am pretty much a noob wanting to take good photos.

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      NigelTufnel on 08/04/2013 - 13:21

      I got the NEX-F3 about a month ago as a step up from P&S and it has been awesome. Pictures are 100x better and it's a great size. Especially with a 30mm Sigma prime on it. I was tossing up between this and the NEX, but I have no regrets whatsoever in my choice.

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  hooray on 08/04/2013 - 10:59

  Would this come with an aust tax invoice ?

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  bbyboy on 08/04/2013 - 11:15

  +1

  or you can get both lenses for $488 at harvey norman

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    poxy001 on 09/04/2013 - 11:49

    just pulled the trigger on this delivered for $500. cheers!!

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      bbyboy on 10/04/2013 - 00:04

      im glad i could help. the price went up by $10 now

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  heyjoe on 08/04/2013 - 13:27

  I love the idea of a small DSLR as I cant see myself always takin a large camera with me. However I am new to the whole SLR thing and was looking at the Pentax Q because of its size, anyone have any experience on this ome thanks?

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    bbyboy on 08/04/2013 - 13:56

    the pentax q is not a dslr and the iq is far from dslr

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      heyjoe on 08/04/2013 - 16:25

      mmm why is it not a DSLR? and IQ why do you mean about that, sorry for my ignorance.

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        NigelTufnel on 08/04/2013 - 16:30

        DSLR = Digital Single-lens reflex. Pentax Q (or the GF3) do not have the same reflex design, thus are not DSLRs. It's all about the mechanics. DSLR by their very nature have to be larger than the normal camera so the idea of 'a small DSLR' does not exist. If you want smaller, you have to go mirrorless.

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        ozscharfschutze on 09/04/2013 - 09:28

        and the Canon EOS 100D is not a small DSLR?
        @heyjoe: IQ = image quality
        generally speaking, image quality increases with sensor size (as well as lens quality).

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        bbyboy on 09/04/2013 - 23:57

        to put simply, slr have a optical view finder
        like ozscharfschutze said, the general rule is bigger sensor the better IQ
        the pentax q's sensor is smaller than some point and shoot cameras

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    Melthar on 08/04/2013 - 21:38

    +1

    The Pentax has a far smaller sensor than the GF3, the Nex series, or any DSLR, most consumer level DSLRs have an APS-C sensor, Olympus and Panasonic use a four thirds sensor (for two lens mounts, "Four Thirds, and Micro Four Thirds") the Pentax Q has a 1/2.3" sensor. That's about 1/8th the area of any four thirds cameras, and 1/13th the area of any APS-C cameras. This equates to far less light entering/being captured by the camera, heavily impacting performance under low light or when dealing with fast movement.

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      bbyboy on 09/04/2013 - 23:59

      +1

      however, the pentax q sensor is backlit to help with low light situations

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    ozscharfschutze on 09/04/2013 - 09:25

    +1

    In addition to Melthar's comments, if you want to create photos with shallow depth of field (e.g. portraits with person in sharp focus with creamy blurred background), it is very difficult to achieve this with the Pentax Q because of its tiny sensor.
    See http://www.dofmaster.com/dofjs.html