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  check on 11/01/2013 - 17:00

  The thing I cannot figure out with these portable ac's is where does the hot air go?

  When you get a permanent ac, it goes outside. But for a portable one, its a problem.

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    penthius on 11/01/2013 - 17:04

    the usually come with some kind of hose or box to stick out the window - thats where it goes ;-)

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    Store Rep2ndsWorld @ 2nds World on 11/01/2013 - 17:05

    Hi check, they come with a window kit. Imagine the flat couch cleaning attachment from your vacuum cleaner attached to a long hose and the portable air conditioner. Stick the hose with the flat attachment out the window, close the window as much as possible and you are good to go.

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      ylangylang55 on 11/01/2013 - 19:06

      how about can I leave it in the bathroom? if we put out of window, we just dont like the insects at all

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    nubzy on 11/01/2013 - 17:19

    you need a big fat hose directed out the window. I had a portable machine and it was a total pain in the ass, had to leave half the sliding window open letting hot air in and some from the hose would blow back in as well. They do not cool very well anyway.

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      Lord Fart Bucket on 11/01/2013 - 17:22

      +1

      They work, but not as good as a split system.
      I got one years ago, hose out toe window, the attachment was to short, had to go get some wood to fix up the gap, else the hot air goes in quicker than you can cool it.

      For those in rental places, these things are usually the only option (or make a deal with your landlord for a permanent system).

      Note, because the compressor is in the unit, most of them are also quite noisy.

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        greenie4242 on 11/01/2013 - 19:23

        +1

        I'd recommend instead trying to buy an old-style window mount unit. They're the 'poor-man's split system' but they are a TRUE split system where the hot bits are outside and the cold bits are inside. It's getting more and more tricky these days as they don't seem to be easy to buy, and many newly built houses go for slide doors and windows instead of high-up windows that open up/down, so they can't be mounted.

        For years I had a very small window AC unit that was perfect for my large office, but the painter threw it out the window destroying it. I can't find one small enough to fit the window as a replacement unfortunately. The office is about 15x10x5 metres (very high ceiling) but even on a 35 degree hot day the window mounted system cooled it down in less than five minutes. I only ever needed to use it at level 1-3/10. At 10, its highest setting it was properly cold where your teeth start chattering and ice crystals spray out of the unit, not just lukewarm/bearable/better than nothing like these wheelie things. The loud compressor motor sent the sound outside too, to piss off the neighbours instead of make the office noisy. Most of these these stupid wheel mounted things would struggle to reduce the temperature in a doghouse by a few degrees.

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      bxpressiv on 11/01/2013 - 17:27

      +7

      Sounds like your installation is the issue. We have a portable aircon in our daughters room and it takes the edge off. We wouldn't let her sleep in the room without it over summer. I don't know what comes with this model but do some problem solving when you install it. We just bought some cheap wood from bunnings, cut it to size in the sliding window gap and cut a hole for the hose vent. We then sealed the wood edges round the window with cloth tape. Insulate the hose with towels or whatever because the tube is hot and radiates heat. The room is only about 3x3 and what we bought was suitable for that.
      This aircon probably comes with a plastic window kit which may not suit all window types, so be prepared to come up with your own solutions.

      Is it as good as a normal aircon: no
      Does it cost as much as a normal aircon: no
      Can it be installed anywhere near a window: yes
      Is it noisy: yes
      Does it make the room bearable: yes

      The price on this one listed seems reasonable as a quick online search suggests you should pay about $600 for this, but I haven't done much research.

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        Trance N Dance on 11/01/2013 - 18:17

        Did not think about insulating the hose with towels… might make it better for when I return to FNQ this February!

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        udyz on 11/01/2013 - 18:45

        need to keep an eye on the hose if you are insulating the exhaust hose.

        They can get really hot on very hot 40deg days. With added insulation you might invite trouble.

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        greenie4242 on 11/01/2013 - 18:55

        'takes the edge off' and 'bearable' is about the best I've heard these things described. We were stuck in a holiday home with one and found the damn thing was making the room HOTTER. When we turned it off the temperature dropped. It's sucking up the same amount of power as a hairdryer, and that heat has to go somewhere! The heat is produced inside the unit too, so it not only has to cool the room but also cool itself!

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        pmupsinep on 11/01/2013 - 19:09

        need to keep an eye on the hose if you are insulating the exhaust hose.
        They can get really hot on very hot 40deg days. With added insulation you might invite trouble.

        It's warm air, nothing will self combust.

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        bxpressiv on 11/01/2013 - 20:15

        +2

        I just checked out of interest the ignition temp of cotton is 450 degrees Celsius and plastic, which I think the hoses are generally made out of, is 200-300 degrees Celsius. The hoses could be specially made, but if you're concerned wrap it in a fire blanket first, but the fact remains, the hose will radiate heat.

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  [Deactivated] on 11/01/2013 - 18:32

  Can we cool this via water?
  i.e. Hose part into water and then replacing the water every now and then with cold water.

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    Lord Fart Bucket on 11/01/2013 - 18:41

    that would be an evaporative cooler…

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    udyz on 11/01/2013 - 18:41

    humidity will increase in the room, but may improve the performance of the aircon.

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  udyz on 11/01/2013 - 18:46

  +1

  91 clicks not 1 +ve.

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  greenie4242 on 11/01/2013 - 18:51

  The main problem with these things is they sit on the floor. Hot air RISES. They're just sucking in cool air from the floor area, blowing it about a bit, and nothing much else. The hot air stays put. I've tried a few of these at friend's houses, they're almost worthless. I found that just running a small $50 portable car fridge (peltier style) with the lid open did a much better job than their $800 'air conditioner.'

  I do wonder if these units would work better if placed high up on a shelf, where they can actually reach the hot air. Unfortunately they are usually designed so clunkily with hoses and wiring hanging off, it could be dangerous. They look a bit like R2D2 and a paper shredder had a one night stand.

  I have an old window-mount portable air conditioner where the entire unit sits in the window. Mount it in a high-up window, the thing sucks in the hot air from the top of the room then blows so much cold out the bottom that there are ice crystals blowing out the fan. I had another one but the damn painter threw it out the window, I was furious. Probably 30 years old but work properly, unlike these stupid wheelie units. I haven't seen them for sale for years unfortunately. No idea if they're still available. I saw a couple of 20 year old units selling for $600 on eBay last year so I didn't even bother looking for new models!

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    pmupsinep on 11/01/2013 - 19:22

    +3

    They're just sucking in cool air from the floor area, blowing it about a bit, and nothing much else. The hot air stays put.

    No it doesn't. While it may not be as effective, the overall room temperature will still be reduced, air doesn't seperate into solid layers of hot and cold.

    I found that just running a small $50 portable car fridge (peltier style) with the lid open did a much better job than their $800 'air conditioner.'

    No it didn't.

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  pmupsinep on 11/01/2013 - 19:21

  Not a bargain for a unit that's been knocked around or probably fallen off a truck, it's brand new here for $579 including shipping to capital cities at Price Pirate.
  http://www.pricepirate.com.au/SHARP_CVP13LJ_3_55kW_1_4HP_COO…

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  bxpressiv on 11/01/2013 - 20:17

  +2

  I'd take this over a Dyson bladeless and they probably cost the same.

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    Umar511986 on 11/01/2013 - 22:22

    +1

    Yes, Dyson bladeless is the most useless and rediculously expensive thing I have ever seen.

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  Umar511986 on 11/01/2013 - 22:12

  +2

  It is one of the best PORTABLE aircon around at this time. I just picked one up start of this summer season around end of Nov… The day it was 42C in Syd, it worked great and did make life a lot easy and comfortable for a PORtABLE aircon. Yes, you can't compare it to a split system due to the simple fact that this is not a split system where the hit outer is outside the room and thus it will not perform like a split. But imagine for ppl like myself who are renting and would like to live comfortably without having to be awake all night because of the heat, it is a great machine. As far as this particular model goes, I tried a lot of the Delonghi and Dimplex shit boxes before I settled on this model from Sharp just because of the fact that this is one of the best in cooling a large area effectively and properly unlike the other portables out in the market. Go out and try it for yourself. The window fittings are great and extra long as well due to the fact that I was able to completely fit it on the side of my sliding glass door in the room and it works like a dream with no leaks etc. Also it is not as loud or noisy as some other units are and is comparable with the old school window aircons. I would highly recommend this model over most other brands simply due to its quality and style and the biggest PLUS is that you get an air purifier for free as this unit has built in famous Sharp Ion Plasmacluster Technology which is great for anyone suffering from pollen allergy like myself.

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    Mike2010 on 12/01/2013 - 13:20

    How much did you pay when you bought yours?

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  Umar511986 on 14/01/2013 - 08:07

  Hi,
  I bought mine from a Sharp Employee and paid $300 :P but I did not choose this aircon due to this fact as I won it in an online auction from the seller.