Why I Regret Switching to AMD's RX 9070 XT GPU After Years with Nvidia

Edyolo on 24/03/2025 - 13:42
Last edited 24/03/2025 - 14:09 by 1 other user

RX 9070 XT Rant – A Long-Time Nvidia User's Frustration

Owner of an RTX 4090, RTX 3070, RTX 3070 Ti, and now the brand-new AMD RX 9070 XT—their latest flagship GPU. I’ve been a loyal Nvidia user since the GTX 1070 Ti back in 2018. My first ever GPU was the AMD HD 7950 back in 2012, and after years of dealing with AMD's notorious driver issues, I avoided them entirely—until now.

I decided to give AMD another chance with the RX 9070 XT, using it exclusively for gaming while my Nvidia cards handle ML workloads.

Big mistake. The experience has been rough, to put it mildly.

1. Micro-Stuttering Galore
  • Assassin’s Creed: Shadows, Overwatch, and Cyberpunk 2077 all suffer from frequent micro-stuttering.
  • It's jarring, immersion-breaking, and downright frustrating.
2. FSR is Still Not There
  • Tons of shimmering, pixelated distant textures, and overall lack of clarity.
  • FSR "Native + AA" feels like it’s barely on par with DLSS 4.0 (Quality mode).
  • Visual quality takes a serious hit.
3. FSR 4 Adoption is Barely Happening
  • Most games still don’t support FSR 4, not even brand-new releases like AC: Shadows.
  • Had to mod FSR 4 into the game manually to get a result that’s close to DLSS.
  • This shouldn't be the norm for a modern flagship GPU.
4. Anti-Lag+ is Doing the Opposite
  • Traced the worst stuttering back to AMD’s Anti-Lag+ feature.
  • Turns out it discards frames that take too long to render—great idea in theory, but a disaster in practice.
  • In fast-paced games like Overwatch, this results in horrible stuttering and makes the game borderline unplayable.
5. Misleading FPS with Frame Generation
  • First time launching AC: Shadows, I saw 2x the FPS of my RTX 4090 and thought, "Wow!"
  • Then I realized both AMD Fluid Motion Frames and FSR Frame Generation were enabled by default.
  • While it technically gave 4x the frame rate, the actual gameplay experience was awful—tons of stutter and poor frame pacing.
Final Thoughts

Sure, Nvidia GPUs cost 20–30% more.
But they just work. You're not spending hours tweaking settings or hunting down fixes just to enjoy your games.

With AMD, even their latest flagship RX 9070 XT feels like an early-access beta experience.
With Nvidia, you’re paying for stability, polish, and peace of mind.

If you're thinking about switching to AMD for gaming—think twice.

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Comments

  • MS Paint on 24/03/2025 - 13:52
    +133

    We have found Jensen Huang's alt account.

    • neoleo on 24/03/2025 - 14:36

      Nah … He's too rich to waste his time here. Or maybe you mean he uses AI to create the post :P

      • freefall101 on 24/03/2025 - 23:58
        +9

        I thought shitposting on the internet is most of what billionaires do these days?

        • GaryQ on 25/03/2025 - 08:10

          When they aren't shadow-running super-power countries

          • mikkeyg on 25/03/2025 - 09:24
            +1

            @GaryQ: They're not even shadow-running anymore with titles such as Senior Advisor to the President

      • Caped Baldy on 25/03/2025 - 09:46

        Everythings computer

  • Baa on 24/03/2025 - 13:52
    +2

    Thanks, I have been considering making the switch from my 3070 - but I think until I find the right deal or pricepoint for a nvidia card.

    • Bruceflix on 24/03/2025 - 13:54
      +21

      Unless you are going 5080 or better the 9070xt is the smart choice.

    • askbargain on 24/03/2025 - 14:05
      -7

      found one of those people that upgrade their phones every year

      • scrimshaw on 24/03/2025 - 14:18
        +14

        the RTX 3070 (with a paltry 8GB VRAM) is actually 2 generations old now and was released in 2020. That's almost 5yr old tech.

        Not really comparable or wasteful as upgrading a Samsung Galaxy S24 to an S25.

        • askbargain on 24/03/2025 - 15:18
          +6

          Saying 5yr like they make yearly improvements. It’s 2 generations old full stop. 50 series just came out. Plenty games are optimised for 30 and 40 series.

          • thrillhouse on 25/03/2025 - 07:57
            +1

            @askbargain: Why do you care so much what people do with their money? I generally don’t upgrade every year, but I do spend money on other bogus stuff.

            If it’s something that gets used every day, and even more so for productivity, such as a mobile phone or computer, there’s justification.

            Either way, it doesn’t matter to you or I.

          • Kayrhcp on 25/03/2025 - 08:06

            @askbargain: So….. it’s not upgrading to a new phone every year?

        • Assburg on 27/03/2025 - 08:13

          My 2080ti that I picked up for $899 the day before the 3000 series atrocious release is still going strong 😀

          1440p is enough for me.

          • ewok666 on 27/03/2025 - 12:51

            @Assburg: Years ago I thought 800x600 on a 3DFX card was AWESOME!

            • Assburg on 27/03/2025 - 19:07

              @ewok666: Not sure if sarcasm but it's really not a fair comparison.

              800x600 and 1024x768 actually looked ok on CRT. The change to square pixels definitely warranted higher res and performance as a necessity.

              I can see a small improvement in visual quality from my 2k 16" laptop monitor when compared to my 1440p 34" … It's all about dpi, and I get it…each to their own, spend your money how you want and enjoy your hobbies..

              But gaming is the hobby for most of us.. Not benchmarking. The extra hrs I would spend at work to accommodate the cost of a modern top end card… Would just mean that's 10-20 hrs less gaming.. which is probably half of all gaming I get in between generations.

              Again, yes, aware everyone's circumstances are different.. just hope a few other ozbargainers in similar shoes as me who are on the edge can read my post and see reason. 😀

              • ewok666 on 27/03/2025 - 21:22

                @Assburg: Ok, to be fair, a 2080Ti to 5090 is probably 3x the performance on raster and even more on ray tracing. Most modern, ray traced games don't run well even in 1440p unless you massively dial down the settings.
                Sure the 5090 pricing is insane at the moment and the 5080 isn't what it could/should be but even a 5070Ti would crap all over that 2080Ti. It was a great card at the time but the world has moved on.

      • witheredcouch on 25/03/2025 - 12:08

        I am happy with my 3070 as I try not to game on my PC, but if I used it for gaming then I would be looking to upgrade as with recent games, the 8GB VRAM is becoming a bigger and bigger limitation. That is on Nvidia for cheaping out on ram, but I can see why one would want to upgrade from it. If you look at games like Indiana Jones, it is held back from higher settings that it should have the performance for specifically due to the lack of Vram.

  • Bruceflix on 24/03/2025 - 13:53
    +31

    Sure, Nvidia GPUs cost 100% more

    ftfy

    • Caped Baldy on 24/03/2025 - 14:07
      +8

      It's the risk of the PC and house burning down that scares me.

      • rumblytangara on 24/03/2025 - 14:12
        +9

        It's the risk of the PC and house burning down that scares me.

        That's why you mount it outdoors(m.gjcdn.net)

        • surg3on on 24/03/2025 - 19:40

          Mine is literally in the garage !

  • bazingaa on 24/03/2025 - 13:56
    +21

    Owner of an RTX 4090
    Now the brand-new AMD RX 9070 XT

    But why did you upgrade from RTX4090 ?

    • scrimshaw on 24/03/2025 - 13:58
      +3

      I decided to give AMD another chance with the RX 9070 XT, using it exclusively for gaming while my Nvidia cards handle ML workloads.

      His nVidia cards are being used for machine learning.

      • bazingaa on 24/03/2025 - 14:26

        usually 3070s are not that good for ML. OP could have used 3070 TI for gaming and get a used 3090 for ML. I would sell all 3070s and replace with used 3090s, even support NVLINK.

        • MrMcHairyHead on 26/03/2025 - 11:23

          But it was a 4090 he was using for ML..

          • bazingaa on 26/03/2025 - 11:33

            @MrMcHairyHead:

            RTX 4090, RTX 3070, RTX 3070 Ti my Nvidia cards handle ML workloads.

            Best scenario,

            sell, AMD RX 9070 XT and RTX 3070
            use, RTX 3070 Ti for gaming, get used 3090s for the rest and 3090s + 4090 for ML

      • serpserpserp on 27/03/2025 - 10:16
        +1

        Seriously what do individuals use machine learning for? Serious question here. Seems like the Internet hive mind would be able to do it for you already

  • frondono on 24/03/2025 - 14:04
    +2

    Try it out with just a driver install and no settings changes in adrenalin

  • Caped Baldy on 24/03/2025 - 14:06
    +16

    Just checking, did you uninstall the Nvidia drivers?

    • S Baldrick on 24/03/2025 - 22:35
      +15

      OP, use Display Driver Uninstaller to clean uninstall your Nvidia drivers. A mate of mine went from an RTX 3070 to an RX 9070 XT and has had zero issues.

      I got a 9070 XT recently, but I play older titles so can't comment on the problems you've been facing.

  • askbargain on 24/03/2025 - 14:07
    +1

    while my Nvidia cards handle ML workloads

    at least crypto mining made money

  • Fredfloresjr on 24/03/2025 - 14:08
    +1

    Same, moved to NVIDIA and never looked back. Ain't going back AMD.

  • beeze on 24/03/2025 - 14:27
    +3

    Happy with mine, also with 6900 xt before that.
    I agree that generally Nvidea are a bit more reliable with compatibility but experienced little in terms of issues to date. FSR4 is super new, the number of games with support is higher than what I expected.

    I like fiddling, stutter could be many things and find that turning most features off worked best with the 6900xt. Again, less plug and play but when it's the best dollar per frame, still my choice again.

  • MarisaEm on 24/03/2025 - 14:32
    +45

    Ahh, if it isn't the owner of www.userbenchmark.com - fancy meeting you here.

  • Godric on 24/03/2025 - 14:37
    +6

    On 7800xt for a year now and;
    Play many many games, core game CS2, overall happy with crossing over for a bit

    All of the AMD features i disable, i just want raw dog performance that i can get out of the card (Here or there i may enable FSR)
    I infrequently encounter stutters, and certainly not in any 'e-sport' titles, if i did i would 100% notice

    The last AMD card i had was in 2011, and they have come along way since then particularly with their drivers useto be SO BAD!

  • plmko on 24/03/2025 - 15:05
    +9

    Lol the shills are out of the cage

    • askbargain on 24/03/2025 - 15:19
      +1

      And how does that make you feel?

  • DingoBilly on 24/03/2025 - 15:32
    +3

    I'm glad I still use my 1070 and have no problems with any games. Simple life is a good life.

    • iwatchfatpplsleep on 24/03/2025 - 17:32

      I got a 1070 but it is starting to age. I want to upgrade but nothing seems good.

      • 4ksandknives on 07/04/2025 - 08:31

        9060 XT or something should do it

  • burningrage on 24/03/2025 - 16:15

    Recently I went to TGX in Melbourne where they showcased lots of freeplay PCs running on Radeon XTs. I didn't ask the volunteers about the exact GFX Specs but given they are being used for tourneys and as the PC Cases were mostly transparent, I can see the gigantic GFX with blowers everywhere. I thought they must have used high end GFX cards so 9070s seem to be a reasonable assumption.

    Watching my kids playing fortnite, it did show heaps of micro-stuttering (unless you played 1080p) and I did leave the event thinking, "Wow, that's a bit underwhelming".

    I shall consider OP's experience the next time I am getting my next Alienware.

  • Guybrush57 on 24/03/2025 - 16:38
    +3

    What steps did you take after installing AMD drivers after a clean installation of Windows?

    • vid_ghost on 24/03/2025 - 20:17
      +8

      He installed Nvidia drivers on a PC also running an AMD Graphics card and a Nvidia graphics card and he is complaining about issues HAHA!
      Everyone knows that Nvidia drivers completely stuff up AMD's cards if left on the system.

      • Guybrush57 on 25/03/2025 - 17:40
        +7

        Yep. Which is why I asked him what steps he took after clean installing Windows but he hasn't responded.

        OP is a troll.

  • gromit on 24/03/2025 - 17:02
    +13

    personally have been far happier since switching away from Nvidia, all the driver issues I had back in the 1070 days, switched to RX6800 last time and on a 9070XT now. Note I would have gone to a 5070ti if they weren't so massively overpriced. Confused by one thing though, you say you had a 4090, why the hell would you buy a 9070XT from that. 9070XT is just below a 5070ti, either of which will be dismal performance compared to a 4090. So if coming from a 4090 it is not surprising you found performance lacking.

    do I recall you asking in a previous thread deal about whether it was worth upgrading from your 4090 to a 9070XT? surely after that you didn't actually do this?
    You basically did the equivalent of a 4090 to a 4070ti super. would you expect that to be an upgrade?

    • ForkSnorter on 24/03/2025 - 18:47

      You basically did the equivalent of a 4090 to a 4070ti super. would you expect that to be an upgrade?

      He said he is using his Nvidia cards for ML workloads.

      • gromit on 24/03/2025 - 19:26
        +11

        and earlier this month he was asking about whether a 4090 to a 9070xt was a good upgrade. So I would take his knowledge of graphics cards and there use with a hefty fistful of salt. I think it also screams lack of research when he also calls it there "latest flagship model", AMD don't really have a flagship model this gen, only mid range, hence even their fastest card from last gen is ahead of it in all but RT.

  • ForkSnorter on 24/03/2025 - 17:59
    -4

    No problems with my 4070 so far, which cost $670 during Black Friday.

  • FireRunner on 24/03/2025 - 18:36
    +16
    1. Sounds like something is wrong with your setup. I would recommend trying DDU to wipe all graphics drivers from your system and doing a fresh install
    2. Yeah, it’s no secret FSR is inferior to DLSS. NVIDIA is ahead in ray-tracing and up scaling
    3. FSR 4.0 will become more prevalent as time goes on. DLSS support was spotty at the beginning.
    4. Never tried, can’t comment on Anti-lag. Might be related to drivers again
    5. I don’t think NVIDIA is any better (might be worse) in obfuscation of real vs generated frames
    • RIBBS on 25/03/2025 - 20:00
      +1

      This ^^ 100%… Sounds like a setup issue to me.
      I've been running a XTX since launch after moving from Greedvidia and the AMD drivers have been great.

  • Aureus on 24/03/2025 - 19:55
    +1

    No worries, I will take your RX 9070 XT off your hands.

    Never had an issue with AMD GPUs, going back to the days when AMD had "bad drivers".

  • vid_ghost on 24/03/2025 - 20:19
    +15

    How can someone run two graphics cards from AMD and Nvidia in the same system with both drivers installed and then complain about issues!

    This guys must be joking or something. Everyone knows NVIDIA drivers mess up AMD drivers if not DDU'ed :) In his case he is running both AMD & NVIDIA drivers at the same time.

    I've been using Ati/AMD Graphics Cards now for over 20 years with next to no issues :) i think I've had a good run.

  • Darude Sandstorm on 24/03/2025 - 20:27
    +9

    I don't have any of these issues?

    • vid_ghost on 24/03/2025 - 21:04
      +7

      Are you also running a Nvidia graphics card with Nvidia drivers installed at the same time as an AMD card on the same PC.. like this person is? I think thats why you have no problems

      • Darude Sandstorm on 24/03/2025 - 21:06

        Oh yeah wait, almost anyone can tell you that won't work properly, it almost never has worked properly.
        I'm assuming windows as well, due to the issues…

        • vid_ghost on 24/03/2025 - 21:17
          +1

          Its so SAD that someone like this can post the above yet leave out that super important detail… :) he probably has turned off some people from AMD'

          The funny thing is that if you go the other way and install a Nvidia card after having an AMD one your system you don't need to worry as much with issues.

          AMD doesn't sabotage your system and prevent you from running something else after.. ONLY Nvidia plays dirty.. Always has!

  • AustriaBargain on 24/03/2025 - 20:58
    -1

    I'd expect AC: Shadows to be unoptimised to modern GPUs bags of tricks tbh, it just came out like a few days ago. Are you sure the GPU is the only bottleneck with this game?

  • Boop Doucha on 24/03/2025 - 21:44
    +1

    For what it's worth, I think most of the OPs criticisms are fair. I also own a 9070xt. It works best with most features disabled. I agree that nvidia offers a more hassle free experience if you're willing to pay more (previously had a 3070). Still, the 9070xt is a really good card that I'd recommend to people willing to put some time into learning the quirks of the software.

    • bananabendera on 25/03/2025 - 08:18
      +1

      OP's criticisms are not fair, they're using nvidia drivers on the same system?

      • RTX9090Ti on 25/03/2025 - 12:17
        +1

        he probably uses Ryzen drivers on Intel chipset.

      • Boop Doucha on 27/03/2025 - 18:32

        I say the criticism are fair because I have had similar experiences with the card. (even after using DDU then installing latest Radeon drivers)

        1. Anti-lag does indeed cause micro-stutters / frame drops. I wasn't sure why Valorant was playing up until I realised this feature was on. Once disabled, the game ran perfectly. Nvidia reflex never had this issue regardless of whether I was CPU or GPU limited in games.

        2. FSR4 itself is very good but it isn't broadly supported enough to make it an equal to DLSS 4.

        3. I have already had numerous experiences with the software not applying chosen settings / stats overlay / Adrenalin Software freezing / game profiles not applying. Small issues in the grand scheme of things but they detract from the experience. Not saying Nvidia is better; they avoid this problem by not offering most of the software features that AMD does.

  • TightAl on 24/03/2025 - 22:03

    I've gone down the AMD/RX path twice and regretted it both times, the COVID situation made me go down this path and REGRETS

  • S Baldrick on 24/03/2025 - 22:50
    +1

    1. If this isn't a documented known issue, use Display Driver Uninstaller to make sure your old Nvidia drivers are wiped clean.

    2. FSR4 seems to be a big improvement - adoption may be slower when compared to dropping in newer DLSS versions, but game support will (hopefully) improve over time

    3. See above, though I agree

    4. Can't comment on this as I don't use it

    5. Fake frames are misleading, yes - this isn't an AMD exclusive marketing tactic, though. Remember the RTX 5070 = RTX 4090 controversy?

    Disclaimer: I've exclusively used AMD GPUs (R9 380 -> RX 480 -> RX 570 -> RX Vega 64 -> RX 9070 XT), and while I've never had any driver issues, I know the RX 5000 series in particular was notoriously unstable. Having said that, the 9070 XT doesn't seem to have any major issues (as far as I've heard or seen) and is nearly $400 cheaper compared to the RTX 5070 Ti. If you think paying that premium for better software features and a minor performance increase is worth it, then that's your call.

  • magnitude on 24/03/2025 - 23:41
    +1

    "This shouldn't be the norm for a modern flagship GPU."

    This is such a bad argument. You mean the latest and greatest bleeding edge hardware should work better than stuff that has has been out longer and is better supported? What kind of bad logic is that..

  • eklipsils on 25/03/2025 - 05:09
    -6

    This is what happens when you go cheap. You get what you pay for.

  • Rob-4x4 on 25/03/2025 - 08:00

    Interesting review, thanks for sharing. But it is unfortunate there is not more competition to the Nvidia GPUs to try and moderate the ridiculous prices of them . I have read that even the gaming software development industry has concerns around the ridiculous prices Nvidia charges for GPUs as it stifles the development of new games as the developers have to produce games compatible with platforms the majority of the market can afford rather than being truly innovative.

  • Odin on 25/03/2025 - 08:06

    Nah

  • REDRUM on 25/03/2025 - 09:17

    A lot of your complaints stem from technologies that impact both cards in one way or another, all of these upscalers and frame gen technologies make games look muddy,introduce latency and ruin the clarity we once used to have.

    Gaming is taking a backseat for NVIDIA and I can't help wonder if ATI AMD will follow suite at some point.

  • bomer on 25/03/2025 - 10:00

    What CPU are you using? 1% Lows and stutters could be related to a CPU bottleneck.

    • Edyolo on 25/03/2025 - 10:05

      7950X3D

      • RTX9090Ti on 25/03/2025 - 12:14
        +2

        Can you post video review in youtube? without proof this kinda like defamation to AMD.

      • slipstreamexpress on 27/03/2025 - 04:54

        Did you do a clean install on the system or did you just swap out the cards?

        I've been running both NVIDIA and AMD cards in multiple systems for years now and have had very few problems with AMD in the last couple of years. My AMD based cards in currently running systems include

        R9 290
        RX 580
        5700XT X 2 cards
        7900XT

        Also have on the NVIDIA front

        1080ti
        RTX 3060
        RTX 4080

        I have to say out of all the above systems currently operational, my preferred gaming machine is the 7900XT, I believe it's currently paired with a 5800X3D and apart from the infrequent driver crash here and there (usually related to some windows (profanity) in the background) I'm very happy with the experience.

        If anyone is wondering why the (profanity) I have so many systems, it's because I have a company which needs design PCs at the office, plus I have a couple of racing Sims to battle my mates on. They have their own dedicated boxes so I don't have to (profanity) around when wanting to play, also a flight Sim rig and a personal gaming PC at home too.

  • Powershopz on 25/03/2025 - 10:12

    I had a similar reaction when I switched to AMD. Took a ton of tweaking and many hours troubleshooting to get it to a really good functional state. Even then it still has issues with some games. However the price point isn't even close. The past few years NVIDIA have generally been close to double the price of AMD. NVIDIA in general 'just work' but they're not immune to problems as well.

  • vid_ghost on 25/03/2025 - 10:14
    +2

    AMD 9000 is more stable then Nvidia 5000

  • trankillity on 25/03/2025 - 10:29
    +9

    As a counter-point to the OP, I am happy I went with AMD this generation. I had a RTX3080 previously, so a 9070XT was an actual upgrade for me whereas the OP is trying to say that their literal downgrade from a 4090 to a 9070XT was disappointing. That's like buying a new Corolla when you had last year's top-of-the-line BMW.

    Points that I really like about the 9070XT:

    • It's literally $1000AUD+ less than a 5080 (my original desired card this generation) for 10-15% less raster performance and a decent chunk more path traced performance. Nvidia's gouging markup (especially for us international markets) was way too much for me to stomach this time around. "Same RRP" in USD means +15-20% over direct conversion in AUD every generation since the 30-series.
    • RT performance is actually semi-competitive, with it performing better than the 7800XTX in RT tests.
    • FSR4 is finally the FSR that AMD needed and it looks great. Yes, there's very few games that support it natively but the speed at which OptiScaler was updated to allow it was very impressive.
    • I actually like the Adrenaline software much more than the Nvidia app. It has everything I need in a single app including a great performance overlay, per-app performance tweaks, fan controls and overclocking/undervolting. On Nvidia you needed like 3 separate apps for that. Oh, and because my whole system is AMD now, it even has CPU-related tweaks and metrics in there.
    • Linux support is miles better - and with how bloated MS is making Windows, I am really looking forward to moving to Linux full-time considering all my hobbies have flatpak apps.
    • Underdog energy. Nvidia doesn't care about gamers any more considering < 15% of their revenue is from desktop GPUs and their big "reveal" was simply multi-frame gen. AMD is kicking goals in the CPU department and has been for years, and they're finally starting to catch up in the GPU department. I am happy to reward their leaps this generation and support healthy competition.
    • vid_ghost on 25/03/2025 - 12:01

      I'll be buying a AMD RX9060XT 16GB in white and under 280cm in length. If theirs one on the market to replace a RX6600XT

    • dowhatuwant2 on 26/03/2025 - 09:43

      Where are you seeing that a 9070xt has more path traced performance than a 5080? All the benchmarks i see have it more comparable with a 5070ti with the 5070ti just barely ahead because of feature set.

      • trankillity on 26/03/2025 - 09:48

        Sorry, that was poorly worded. I'm saying that the 5080 has more full path tracing capability (by about 30-40%).

        • dowhatuwant2 on 26/03/2025 - 10:05

          Why are you comparing it to a 5080 rather than to a 5070ti though?

          • trankillity on 26/03/2025 - 11:08

            @dowhatuwant2:

            It's literally $1000AUD+ less than a 5080 (my original desired card this generation)

            It's right there in the comment bud… Plus, with some mild undervolting the RX9070XT surpasses the 5070Ti and gets closer to the 5080 in raster/raw horsepower.

            • dowhatuwant2 on 26/03/2025 - 12:15

              @trankillity: You know you can undervolt/overclock the 5070ti and 5080 too right? Like why you comparing an overclocked card to the base of another?

              5070ti is about 5% better than 9070xt in raster and 20+% better in path tracing, The AMD card is actually available for purchase and cheaper which makes it better value but don't confuse that with thinking that its a better card.

              • trankillity on 26/03/2025 - 14:16

                @dowhatuwant2: I suggest reading again. No where did I say it was better. I'm also not comparing an overclocked card. I specifically said 10-15% less raster performance compared to the 5080 which is true at base clocks.

                • dowhatuwant2 on 26/03/2025 - 16:30

                  @trankillity: "with some mild undervolting the RX9070XT surpasses the 5070Ti "

                  Do you think undervolting boosts performance without simultaneously boosting the clock?

                  • trankillity on 27/03/2025 - 10:22

                    @dowhatuwant2: I'm well aware of what it does - my statement was in response to your questions, not in relation to my original post. Hence, the original comment still stands. You're conflating my answering your questions with the content of the original comment.

                    • dowhatuwant2 on 28/03/2025 - 11:29

                      @trankillity: You know not all my questions have to relate to your original post, i can question your responses. Your response justified using the comparison partially based on the overclocked capacity of the card being comparable to a base 5080.

  • surg3on on 25/03/2025 - 11:11
    +2

    breaking news. Cards that cost more work better. Coming up , sky is blue.

    • Charmoffensive on 25/03/2025 - 17:11
      +2

      Price doesn't equal quality though, especially with computer hardware.

      I guarantee OP hasn't run DDU yet and there's still nvidia driver remnants interfering with the card.

  • ceroau on 25/03/2025 - 12:07
    +2

    9700XT is not a competitor to the RTX4090 or 5090, it doesn't pretend to be, in fact AMD have gone out of there way to point out that they're aiming at mid range gaming market.

    Also did you even try doing a fresh install of your OS before changing out an Nvidia graphic card for an AMD? or at a minimum use a proper uninstaller tool to uninstall the current NVidia driver ? I bet you didn't.

    "I did exactly nothing and it doesn't work as expects, I have tried everything and I am a lost". That you.

    Obvious troll, is obvious.

    • foursaken on 26/03/2025 - 09:32
      -3

      Thanks for being what you're hating on. Keep it up.

  • p1 ama on 25/03/2025 - 12:21
    -1

    It seems like for the past few generations, the product strategy team at Radeon just look at the closest Nvidia GPU in performance, and knock off 15-20% of the price and call it a day. It's hardly an exciting strategy, and it's hardly done them much good in terms of producing products that users are actually excited for.

    The issue is that Radeon fans seem to always just be hell-bent on gaslighting everyone into thinking that there's almost like some conspiracy against Radeon GPUs, and seem incapable of accepting that they don't have a coherent product strategy, consistently release sub-standard products that are not stable or not well tested, and lag behind the competition in some key features. If AMD's GPUs were actually good, they would actually be gaining market share instead of dropping like a stone over the past 15 years (e.g. see https://pcviewed.com/nvidia-vs-amd-discrete-gpu-market-share…).

    Reality is that the market just likes good products - Ryzen is a great example. Great product stack, fantastic value, actually market disrupting technology allowing them to build higher core-count CPUs at lower cost - within 2-3 generations, they were topping all of Amazon's CPU sales charts.

  • Mugsy on 25/03/2025 - 12:31

    Currently using an AMD card and it's my first. It's only a RX5700 XT from early 2020 (previous desktop died just as covid was hitting). Historically, I had been an nvidia user.

    My observations after 5yrs of using the 5700XT

    • the signal output has issues from time to time after coming off stand by and I'm looking at a snow storm on my screen. Usually shutting the monitor off and turning on again will fix this but it's still annoying

    • AMD's software didn't run smooth during the first two years. Eventually, there was an update where there seemed to be vast improvements.

    • it's survived at least 5yrs! I typically use a PC for as long as I can so I'm impressed by how long it's lasted. Granted, I don't play anything demanding… Diablo 3 is quite dated now.

    • seems to handle most games I play quite well

    Not sure my next graphics card will be AMD… the snow storms are something I really want to leave behind when it's time to upgrade.

    • vid_ghost on 25/03/2025 - 13:40

      I've been using Ati/AMD cards for the past 20+ years.. few issues here and here but nothing as bad as what your talking about. i only used a RX5500 4GB from the AMD 5000 series and that had no issues. my RX470 wouldn't come out of sleep mode if the monitor turned off but that ended up being a motherboard bios setting's issue in the end :) … all other Ati/AMD cards I've had were great.

      My first graphics card was an S3 verge with 4mb's of memory at age 16 and at some point i added a voodoo2 card to that PC to let me play smooth 3D games. So I've seen my share of Graphics Cards and issues. :)

      NVIDIA have had just as many problems as Ati/AMD but people only know the recent history… With AMD 1 foot in the grave (almost bankrupted) they managed to still produce graphics cards with a much smaller driver team then Nvidia had and the result was people had issues. Times have changed and that is now a thing of the past. You can be confident in AMD in 2025. They have killed intel and have the money and resources to start competing with Nvidia

      Fast forward to today and it looks like the Nvidia 5000 series wont come out of sleep mode if the monitor turned off :)

      • Mugsy on 25/03/2025 - 15:46
        +1

        The name Voodoo2 really takes me back. I never had one… my first 3D accelerator was an integrated nvidia Riva128 in my old Gateway computers desktop (my second computer) which still had to run Unreal Tournament in software rendering mode. My first computer got handed down to my bro but it died not long after so we set him up with budget Celeron 400 + Voodoo Banshee setup. Man, did games come alive on that thing.

        These PCs lasted us about 3yrs… I saved up during this entire 3yrs and got the two of us near identical Geforce3 Ti200 rigs (I got the DVD burner and dial up modem… and possibly a larger HDD). Have been enjoying proper 3D graphics ever since.

        My next PC will probably be completely new. I've been using the current case for a while now and normally I buy a completely new build rather than just get individual parts as I prefer to get a full 3yrs warranty on my PC. Will do my research then as to the best value for money setup around the usual $1600 I spend on a rig and be sure to check for any known issues. I suspect it'll be AMD… but yeah, I really want to avoid seeing snow storms.

        • vid_ghost on 25/03/2025 - 20:47

          the Voodoo2 card was 3D only so i had to continue to use my S3 4MB card daisy chained with a connector on the outside to the voodoo2 :) was a strange setup.. almost like an old school SLI two card setup ahah

          As for your new PC.. i recommend a Jonsbo TK1 white or Lian Li Dan A3 (wood) white for the cases. both are small Matx options

          and both are great cases but the Jonsbo TK1 is just stunning once you put in a nice white motherboard like a B850M AORUS ELITE ICE + Arctic Cooling Freezer 36 A-RGB White + white Ram and white GPU :)

          I like both these cases because they are almost 100% steel and aluminum. Next to no plastic and as small as they are. They are still easy to build in.

          • Mugsy on 26/03/2025 - 14:26
            +1

            @vid_ghost: Yeah, I remember how the Voodoo 2 was 3D only. Thank god they made the transition to all in one cards sooner than later to keep overall costs down.

            Was an avid PC Powerplay, Hyper, and later Atomic MPC subscriber back then. The good old days. Had a decent bit of gear knowledge back then but no money to buy more gear to play with - lol

            Thanks for the tip with the cases. Mid and full sized cased are a bit big now aren't they so I'm definitely interested in a smaller case.

            • vid_ghost on 27/03/2025 - 11:41

              @Mugsy: PC Powerplay, Hyper, and later Atomic MPC.
              I only got those magazines when they had cheat codes or play through guides for a game i was owned.

              Spent any of the little money i had on Magic the Gathering cards (1994-1997). Now worth a gazillion dollars but i gave my them all away when i got into video games :( Ah lol Kids do stupid things haha

              FYI: Those two are the smallest MATX Cases on the market. They are also newish models :)

              • Mugsy on 28/03/2025 - 12:17

                @vid_ghost: Ouch! Yeah, giving away things that are now worth heaps can be a bit painful. My bro and I had quite a decent collection of Sega Master System games which would current fetch quite a healthy sum from retrogame collectors. We gave it away to our cousins when we upgraded to the Mega Drive and they threw the collection out in the trash. Unfortunately for us, our Mega Drive collection never grew to the size our Master System collection did so, whilst my bro still has it, it's not worth much.

                I'm just holding onto my PS3 collection in hopes it'll be worth something before I die - lol

                • vid_ghost on 03/04/2025 - 20:50

                  @Mugsy: PS2, PS3… i don't see them being worth the same as they were mass produced and kept as DVD/Blueray players even after their gaming days were over.

  • AryaTheExplorer on 25/03/2025 - 13:57
    +9

    I upgraded from 3080 to 9070XT and I had similar issues with stuttering and screen flickering. Cleaned up everything with the latest DDU in safe mode and the issues were all gone. Not sure if its placebo but I felt higher input latency in RDR2, and turning on anti-lag seem to have helped.

    In 4k almost every game I play went from around 60-80fps to 90-140fps. Basically going from playable but giving me a headache after a while to being able to play for 1-2hrs at a time. Also I managed to resell the old 3080 for 600, which made the overall upgrade price much lower than what I expected. Well worth it imo.

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