Struggling to get a good pool of age groups, if anyone can help it is just 10 questions and completely anonymous https://forms.gle/fyVgLRFRrmNS5wjk8
I hope this is allowed here. Thanks!
Can anyone help my daugher out with doing this survey about AI in medical field?
googoogaga on 17/03/2025 - 21:06
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thank you for helping her out! really appreciate it
Started survey but thereâs a number of issues. Eg it asks re concerns and for âotherâ doesnât have free text. Major concern not listed - quality, safety and reliability. Happy to help, but survey needs to be of a reasonable standard if we are to answer honestly.
Also doesnât ask for background of person, like lay person, unrelated industry or medical field
that would seem important.
That feedback is great anyway as the student can use that as a part of their reflective process and outcome statements
that is great feedback, I have passed it onto her.
Would you prefer a less invasive surgery utilising AI and robotics or a traditional surgery done by humans?
An interesting topic. I know a surgeon who offers robotic procedures and while it's less invasive and has benefits, like reduced blood loss, there are still major flags. I.e. a higher risk of dying after the procedure.
I.e. a higher risk of dying after the procedure.
What would be the main cause of this?
I honestly didn't ask why.
You need to clear this up
That question is vague IMO. Humans performing laparoscopy is also less invasive.
Laparoscopy can be both human operated or robotic assisted. So the question is, would you prefer it to be human (surgeon controls the instruments) or robotic (surgeon controls the robotic arms from a console)?
I dont know the stats but I can give a personal insight.
I had a laparoscopic surgery performed to remove gallbladder (fairly common).
However, the internal incision didnt knit and later caused a hernia. They actually think it caused 3 (one at each incision point).
I was told for 15 years the hernias were as a result of pregnancy.
Suffered a bowel strangulation and emergent hernia repair. Had to be open surgery. Found it was a surgical accident. Holes were larger than a 50c piece. Earnt myself an abdominal mesh.
So the balance between invasiveness vs long term patient outcomes, Im now no longer convinced is always in favour of laparoscopy. Would be keen to see stats on it.
@Benoffie: When it comes to laparoscopic surgery and the gallbladder there's always an increased risk versus open surgery. Multi-point laparoscopic surgery is usually a lot safer than single point laparoscopic surgery where the risk of developing a hernia is around 20% (depending on the study).
I personally had my gallbladder removed via open surgery, however I lost a significant portion of everything else in the process and now have the scar to prove it. If you ever wanted a beach body, open surgery will ruin that.
Unfortunately there's always a downside to surgery. The way I see it is that as long as you're still here that's what counts. Too many people pass from simple procedures.
Good topic but I feel the concepts of robotics and AI are being conflated. Robotics can be used in surgery where it is very much limited to a few tasks and outcomes are predictable. AI in surgery can be in the tools (I don't think we're anywhere close to that yet) or in the diagnosis(?) which surgeons can refer to before the surgery.
Done.
Prob will get biased results to your survey by posting here … Skew your end results.
Will leave it at that - Unless you want to know why.
If she's med or pre-med she will want to improve this quiz a lot. If she's graded on methods. This would have got me a fail in my own studies.
Student is likely HSC doing a research project element.
Likely the marks are on process, reflection and outcomes statements with some research. Nothing life shattering.
The SACE equivalent https://www.sace.sa.edu.au/web/research-project
Ah yeah, it looks pretty relaxed. Man I regret psychology, it was all science and very little like what you see psychologists do in movies. I could have done something vocational like computer science. Oh well.
Yeah I strongly discourage students away from SACE psych. Nothing uni won't teach in fundamentals anyway but it's a b*tch of a subject. Not worth the heartache.
Thank you all who have helped, she received 19 responses from this.
Unfortunately a survey on what non-experts believe will happen in the future is not a reliable predictor of what will happen.
Same is often true when experts are surveyed, too.
It is just a student project that the student made to do their HSC project. I doubt the results actually matter in the grand scheme of things. At least they will have the chance to think about study design and data interpretation as part of developing critical thinking skills which is the objective of the exercise.
I wouldn't be surprised if it is the "Society and Culture" subject and this could have been the "Personal Interest Project" that the student decided to choose as their topic.
Done, all the best
Completed. Maybe a few more gray area options mightâve been more realistic. We are just starting with AI so it will be hard to gauge until we get a lot of examples. There is a saying âto err is human but to really stuff it up takes a machineâ. Best of luck to your child.
AI technology has been happening in surgical situations for a long time eg Cataract and orthopaedic surgeries,with great outcomes!
Survey done and dusted
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Thank you everyone who have helped. She has received just over 90 people who have completed the survey. Thank you all so much, this is such a great community.
Only took a couple minutes. Fairly normal for surveys but some of the answer choices were limited.
Done
Completed. Interesting topic. Although there are several elements she hasnt covered but I appreciate that's a limitation of the scope of the assignment (SA has a similar subject in Year 12 đ)
The next stages are likely to be things such as remote operation, AI detection in surgery (especially with blood, fluids, anaesthesia etc) and preventative analysis of conditions and public health flows to manage risk.
Things it cant do are make up for unknowns, complications, surgeons with magic hands and ensure equality in health care based on ethical and moral principles.