Finally an MSRP card in stock? Also available at MWAVE for the same price.
I know 5070 is a joke, but this is the lowest price and widely available card I have yet seen.
ASUS GeForce RTX 5070 Prime GDDR7 12GB Graphics Card $1109 + Delivery ($0 MEL C&C) @ PC Case Gear
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12GB BS :(
I'm not gonna say don't buy it, but you'll wanna think hard about the AMD option this time if you haven't already. Also make sure to check those ROPS if you do buy one.
On the plus side this one probably won't melt anything in your PC at least.
I say we'll be seeing more MSRP deals from nvidia shortly. They've been served some humble pie this gen
What about 5090 🥲… Prices are North of $7k for some retailers… And there are people paying that much for them… It's crazy.
the only people that buy this card is just for bragging and dick pissing contest… i dont even think i know anyone thats bought a $6.5k card
@ 16% increase from a 4080 super doesnt even make it feasible.
5090?? Pretty sure it's performance is a lot more than 16% better than the 4080 super. Especially at 4k.
I have ordered a 5090 (still waiting), for $4600 which I already thought was a stupid amount of money to blow on one component. But it's my first PC build since like 2007 and I am going all out to build a beast. I would have got a 5080 if it had 24GB VRAM, But 16GB is just ridiculous for the asking price.
I am not trying to brag or have a pissing contest. But I want something that will be the best (for the moment) and still be quite capable 7 or 8 years from now.
@Retarded Lunatic: Now that I am home and have time to google, I am genuinely curious where you got your 16% figure from??
I have searched RTX4080 super vs RTX5090, and most games are minimum 50% increase in fps without any frame gen (not sure about dlss settings). Some games up to 100%+ increase in fps…
How did you get 16% when the RTX4090 was already ~30% better performance than RTX4080 and 5090 Has even more performance than 4090? Makes no sense?
One link for example:
@Shaun Prawn: Enjoy your card he is absolutely incorrect. The 5090 is the only next gen card available right now. Enjoy your purchase. If I had the money I took would have got a launch 5090. The other Nvidia cards are not great.
https://gamersnexus.net/gpus/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-founder…@maverickjohn: Thanks. But I think I will be waiting some time before I actually get it.
I'm really annoyed I waited for 50 series launch. 4090's went as low as $2700 when I was first looking into building a new PC. But I was assuming the 50 series would be a lot better than it turned out to be, and I did not expect the price to be so high.
Anyways, it will be a massive leap from my many years of console gaming. I'm really excited to see how good games can look
@Shaun Prawn: Tell me about it.. reason I skipped 40 series was because I had a 3070. Was waiting for 50 series but was let down massively
@Retarded Lunatic: I don't know how they calculate their "aggregate benchmark" score as they don't really explain it. But it's not relevant to me. All I am concerned with is 4k gaming performance, and that same link you sent says that 5090 is an average of 34.2% better than 4080 super across all games they have tested. But I am very sceptical of their results as they also say the 4080 super is 8% faster than 5090 at 1080p. I just don't believe that when you compare the specs of the 2 cards, I don't see how that could be possible.
Looking for some information about technical city I found a post on reddit where one of the writers made this comment:
"As a tech lead of Technical City, I can say that while our data is pretty reliable overall, you still shouldn't blindly trust it for several reasons:"
You can read the full comment here if you like:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1ahsjqv/is_th…
@Retarded Lunatic: Lol your facts are so wrong, I'm not even sure you verified this before posting. It's quite embarrassing.
They've been served some humble pie this gen
They released something because they had to, and probably from pressure to move from the 4nm node to 5nm node.
Every GPU that rolls off the production line was either a die or fab space that could have been used for more lucrative datacentre / enterprise GPGPU solutions. I doubt Nvidia cares at all about 50-series GeForce sales, or perhaps, might even be perversely incentivised to minimise stock / how much they have to make.
You do know people will still buy NVIDIA purely on the name and not consider anything else.
Yes I know. People still do the same with Intel nowadays even though Ryzen is way ahead in nearly all aspects. But Intel once had the same stronghold on the industry, not anymore. Competition is great
I once bought AMD GPU 15 years back and a driver nightmare. Not sure if this has been fixed but I had promised myself not to buy AMD GPUs. It had compatibility issues with lots of games especially the ones which started up with NVIDIA logo in their startup.
AMD drivers are great these days. Personally I think their driver software UI is better than NVIDIA's too.
Only for the 5070 as 9070 and 9070XT are better. Dont expect the same for the 5070Ti.
To anyone about to buy 5070, please consider AMD RX 9070 16GB at 1099 instead. AMD finally has usable RT performance and decent looking upscaling in FSR 4, while giving enough VRAM for most of their cards atm. Don't let Nvidia stagnate the VRAM on their cards any longer.
Everyone wants a true 4K gaming GPU, and spending over 1000 AUD on these underperforming cards is just a waste of money.
1440p gang rise
Its not a bad deal.. at the same time its not a very good deal…
I'm waiting for RX9060XT 16GB :) in white and under 28cm so it fits inside a Jonsbo TK1I think anyone wanting a RTX5070 should wait for the RTX5060Ti 16GB and get that if they must get a Nvidia card. It will be cheaper then the RTX5070, use less power and the extra 4GB's of ram would be better then the extra GPU cores.
wait for the RTX5060Ti 16GB
This is not good advice for anyone bar those with an extremely limited AI accelerator budget.
That's all that card exists for.
Textures eat so much vram. Anyone should go with 16gb+ for future proofing
There are so many elements to texture streaming and texture compression that have barely begun being put into games, and many are well overdue.
Both companies are also hard at work on other features that reduce VRAM for the same or better visual quality.
It's not a simple arithmetic sum anymore, VRAM will only take you so far and you cannot ignore feature set and capability in more complex graphical workloads.
There are so many elements to texture streaming and texture compression that have barely begun being put into games,
99.9% of your existing Steam library does not use any of those technologies - they're basically irrelevant today.
@Nom: And how many games are hitting issues with 12GB VRAM at 1440p and 4K today?
How does this number shift with simple settings changes, and what is the visual quality drop?
The answers are: not many, usually substantially, and not much. There's no enormous drive to send VRAM requirements further again, which is one of the advantages of all these machine learning models.
@jasswolf: I agree with your reasoning in principle, however game studios don't develop their own game engines anymore. You won't see any of these features until they are included in something like the unreal engine and are able to be implemented via template.
If you are buying this card you need to be happy with the limitations that exist today, otherwise you are just adopting the same rubbish argument that AMD fanboys used to use - that performance increases with future updates like 'fine wine' (while they put up with terrible driver support)
@greatlamp: There are less high-end game engines being developed, but many remain actively developed, including:
- Unreal
- Unity
- Northlight (Remedy)
- RAGE (Rockstar)
- Frostbite (EA)
- Creation 2 (Bethesda)
- idTech (Bethesda)
- Source 2 (Valve)
- Infinity (Activision)
- Snowdrop (Ubisoft)
- Anvil (Ubisoft)
If you are buying this card you need to be happy with the limitations that exist today, otherwise you are just adopting the same rubbish argument
These same limitations afford a 5070 user the ability to push visual quality further with neural denoising (DLSS Ray Reconstruction's transformer model) while using a higher-performing upscaling setting. That is here today.
@jasswolf: If I understand what you are you saying, you would prefer the 5070 over the 9070xt (assume they are the same price) because at 4k resolution you would use the 5070 with DLSS upscaling, while you would need to use the 9070xt without upscaling (because AMD upscaling is so poor)- the 5070 would outperform the 9070xt in this scenario?
That might be true, which justifies how Nvidia marketing dept. price their products- based on performance in ideal scenarios not the cost of hardware.
For what it's worth I would pick the Nvidia product as it performs better in productivity software, and runs offline AI models better. I'm willing to give up 10% raster performance for that.
I expect AMD upscaling performance to rapidly improve over time, there might not be a significant difference in a couple of years. However I don't expect AMD will catch up on productivity software support as that is not something they have direct control over.
@greatlamp: I'm not sure either is advisable for 4K gaming, but I'd certainly back NVIDIA's image quality over at least the next two years. My argument revolved more around 1440p, which is the target res for both once you flip on features like path tracing, at least for now.
CUDA and ML support is definitely a bonus.
@jasswolf: This may be true, but the VRAM explosion in the last 10 years is mostly due to consoles having UNIFIED memory that can be efficiently accessed by both the CPU and GPU. PC will never have this due to the modular design (motherboard + components).
So the VRAM issue will likely only get worse when next gen is released and devs have access to 32gb of unified memory on consoles. expect to need 24gb VRAM on a PC GPU for high end textures at that point. It sucks, but it is what it is.
@eggboi: And these same consoles have weaker AI acceleration and vastly weaker visual quality while providing less performance.
Of the 16GB of RAM in the Series X, only 13.5GB of that is available to the GPU, and only 10GB is optimal for most graphical workloads due to a 10+6GB split to allow a second channel for more general compute, hence common upscaled resolutions of 1800p for 60 - or even 30 - FPS performance.
On the PS5, it's 12.5 of 16GB allocated, and the same typical performance issues. Those numbers may have gone slightly upward due to the memory footprint of the OS being optimised, but that's what they were at launch.
32gb of unified memory on consoles. expect to need 24gb VRAM on a PC GPU for high end textures at that point. It sucks, but it is what it is.
You're assuming, and I think that's a dangerous assumption given consumer pricing expectations for consoles, and general demand for consoles as cloud computing and mobile gaming inches forward. In addition, you've got a happy middle ground of 24 Gb/3 GB VRAM chips if required.
What seems more likely is a significant dip in bus width on the series X, which is at 512-bit with 8Gb chips, and the PS5 utilising 24Gb chips to push their totals to at most 24 GB in some combination. Even with a bus width cut to both, you're likely seeing them at least double in VRAM speed, more likely a push to about 2.6x, so a Series X design could have half the bus and still have 30% more bandwidth and an affordable 24 GB configuration.
If they go for 24 GB, they will advertise their consoles as 8K120 gaming machines with raytracing and AI (upscaling, frame gen), but they will be heavily dependent on UDNA being another substantial uptick to make that happen.
The PS5 Pro still uses a 256-bit bus, and 16GB of DDR6 @ 18 Gbps, so I wouldn't even bet on that, it'll come down to where AMD's neural rendering is at in 2027, and they'll probably still be targeting 4K output resolution.
In the review the difference between 12Gb's and 16Gb's on some of the games is like 12FPS to 60FPS :)
The RTX5060ti 16GB wont have that issue while any 12GB card today some of these games are bringing them to unplayable slideshows.
Most gamers are still running on 4-8 gb of ram. 🥹
Putting aside the visual quality gap between the two tiers of individual graphics settings causing VRAM issues at 1440p is likely minimal, the 5060 Ti will also possess around 25% less performance when VRAM is of no concern.
At best, it will be priced at $449 USD, which is still not worth it. If it's $499 again, no one focused on gaming with their GPU should be buying it.
just bought myself jonsbo TK1 as well! bit off topic but how's the case with the temp and cable management? will non modular psu be managable? not planning to build high end build, just wanting to use my left over parts 5600 with tower cooler and 6600xt
I put in a AM5 7500F + Gigabyte B850M AORUS ELITE + Kingston Fury 64GB 6000MHz + RX6600XT & Corsair 850w RMX Switch PSU . Temps are great. no issues at all with 4x120 case fans + 2x120mm fans on the Arctic Freezer 36 CPU cooler
Cable management was great, most two compartment cases are. all cables get tcuked away behind the board in the second unseen compartment. its VERY clean. I like it more then my Lian Li Dan A3 for both building in and looks.. its also smaller then it looks in the photo's
All aluminum metal design no plastic is very nice
Great to hear its soildly built! Thank youuuu
Man ill get 9070xt over this haha but thats just me
Man ill get 9070xt over this haha but thats just
meanyone saneFTFY
I havent bought AMD since the hd6970 back around 2010. I was planning on a 5090 for myself and 5080 for my wife. Nvidia did so well this gen that my wifes PC now has a 9070xt and im stuck with my 3080Ti for another generation. This is the first time she has had the better PC :)
The 9070XT seems great so far. Good temps even when shoehorned in to an a4-h2o, and about as fast or a touch faster than my 3080ti all for a price that isnt terrible in todays market.
The 9070 XT isn't that great of a product, especially given how much the prices of the 7900 XTX were before it was discontinued.
There is a reason these cards are in stock, they are extremely poor value and essentially DOA
9070 xt is the card to buy at this price point
YES and anyone who must get a Nvidia card for some reason or another would be much better off with the RTX5060Ti 16GB when it comes out
feels like 4070 ti super with 16gb vram at about ~$100 more about 1 year ago would've been a much better buy.
One way nVidia could clean up this RTX 5070 mess is to drop price on 4070 Ti Super to compete with RX 9070/RX 9070XT
They're not even producing them at this point, so the answer you're after is either a 5070 Ti or something like a 15GB RTX 5070 Super with faster VRAM.
Price drop on 5070 Ti makes most sense.
Would be good for AMD to drop the RRP for RX 9070. GPU prices are still crazy at the moment.
@netsurfer: AU MSRP for NVIDIA is too high compared to global, and general availability is causing pricing issues for all cards at the moment due to the early rush to beat US tariffs.
Pricing is otherwise comparable to last gen, it's just not a super exciting update early days, similar to the 20 series.
AMD should drag that down a little once things normalise.
Vram comparison is just. That extra 4gb amd has will be more valuable in the long run
Better to have than not have sure, but so is a better upscaler, better heavy RT & pathtracing performance and visual quality, better software implementations, better power efficiency, better overclocking capability, better architecture.
90% of the raw raster performance at 1440p, then beating it pretty much everywhere else while looking better, and VRAM usage to creep down over time.
I understand the AMD argument, there might be specific use cases that make a lot of sense, and they're going to claw back some market share, but the 'RTX 5070 DOA' argument doesn't hold water.
@jasswolf: Dude why are you defending one of the richest companies in the world, who have been screwing consumers as hard as they can for the past 5 years?
@Buyingcrap: I think you answered your own question there, they've been screwing him brainless for all these years…
Some people are just a lot more susceptible to this sort of brand loyalty stuff, they remind me of those chronically insane Christians who just refuse to take one step back and look at the bigger picture.
@Buyingcrap: Because there's a purpose behind it that is far more altruistic than compared with say Tesla or SpaceX (despite their started goals).
Show me where in recent history AMD providing value for consumer GPUs has been anything other than a desperate act to prevent the death knell of a core part of their business?
Look at the state of their CPU pricing now… if your perspective is the endless drive for shareholder value, you're looking at the wrong culprit, and frankly always will be to some extent when looking at publicly-listed companies.
AMD are finally recognising they need to do more here, but there's still a long way to go.
@jasswolf: We've gone through this already, why do you keep bringing up the same moot points?
better upscaler,
FSR 4 sits somewhere in between DLSS 3 AND 4, meaning it is very, very usable and has closed the gap between AMD and NVIDIA in terms of upscaling tech. FSR 4 even bests DLSS 4 in a few, but certainly not all regards, but the fact that this is now reality proves they are very competitive.
better heavy RT & pathtracing performance
Now you're just spreading misinformation. Look at benchmarks before pulling these statements out of your ass. Please.
and VRAM usage to creep down over time.
😂😂😂 RemindMe! 4 years
moot points
Nope, and your own comments reflect that.
Now you're just spreading misinformation. Look at benchmarks before pulling these statements out of your ass. Please.
I have, you're wrong. The 5070 beats the 9070 XT in path traced workloads when VRAM isn't being slammed with absurd texture pools, and it does so with vastly better denoising, as well as the ability to upscale from a lower base resolution while retaining a better overall image.
AMD don't have the supercomputing horsepower to fully catch up on the neural side of things in this generation, and NVIDIA's upgraded solutions are still in beta, utilising FP16 for backwards compatibility.
FSR4 is using FP8 yet is doing worse than NVIDIA for the same frame pacing. A lot of its visual quality barely exceeds DLSS' CNN model, and is still sometimes worse, though it is a hybrid of the two techniques.
4 years
6-18 months for some of this, but the lower end reflects developers that had early access.
If you want to scream about better outcomes for consumers, please try to understand what you're screaming about.
The cable and current balancing debate should be of greater concern, asking for expected implementation timelines and results should be of more concern.
Staffing numbers from NVIDIA and cost distribution amongst its clients should be of more concern.
At current prices, RX 9070XT 16GB is the only one worth considering for the current gen CPUs in terms of cost vs performance. However, as Steve from Hardware Unboxed pointed out, get RX 9070XT as close to RRP as possible.
not even 16gb of vram for over a $1100
how disillusioned the pc market has been scewed over the last 3 generations..Id argue 4 generations.. the 2080Ti was poor value compared to the 1080Ti. And it all went rapidly down hill from there..
agreed, after the peak price to value of the 1080ti, it went down from there
once RTX was introduced
Price of a PS5 pro .. and everyone thought the PS5 pro buyer community were crazy.
I feel consoles are actually the better purchase since PS5 times.
I stupidly built a PC Jan 2022. And have hardly used it for gaming. PS5 has always been better value. Even games are cheaper.
I agree with most of what you said, but sorry to say it majority of the time I find games are cheaper on PC.
Not all the time, but definitely majority & if you are looking for deals on either side.
On launch they are most definitely cheaper on console due to having disc versions go on sale… but sales on PC tend to be pretty good.
Games are free on pc though
If you refer to the epic games I've collected them all but played none of them.
While true that you get free games, you have to like what they give you.
When Intel $500 video cards same speed as rtx 5080?
Intel can't make cards in-house, their costs will be the same as AMD/Nvidia. So, around 4-5 years. Maybe less if AUD suddenly increases in value
I don't need to build a new rig right now. My next rig is still 3-5 years away.
But if I had to build one with this generation, it would likely be an AMD GPU
It should be no suprise though, NVIDIA has made it very clear they are no longer focused on gamers and instead focused on AI.
Yes finally a card in stock I can buy right now. Coming from a 2070 so this is a big upgrade. Plus I should be getting 4090 performance!
Gets popcorn out in anticipation of the responses.
i can't believe it's already out of stock
shouldn't be hard to sell the 4-5 they had, most likely scalpers who will pop it onto some marketplace for double the price instantly.
Don't stress guys, if you are in the market for one give it a month or two absolute max and all the cards will be available, there's no need to play the ozbargain RRP game.
but 4090 performance for $549!
dozens of comments trashing the product
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immediately goes out of stock due to huge demand
Not even close to immediately, take a look at the rx9070xt, now that's what we call immediately due to demand.
Except that only happened for 9070 XT MSRP models, which again globally suffered the same vanishingly low units supplied. Did you catch the issues in Europe with that same category? Overall they have sold more units to this point, but they've also been shipping them since December, delayed launch 5 weeks, and then didn't rebate enough properly after dropping MSRP.
The AIBs are doing their shenanigans with both AMD and NVIDIA-based products, and the production constraints are industry-wide, reflecting AI hyperscaling and a few TSMC issues in late Jan through to mid-Feb.
As bad as this deal is… its sold out
Damn the MSRP of the 9070XT is only 30 bucks more than this and you get 20% more performance and 16 gigs of VRAM instead of 12. This is a hard sell.
But 9070XT is like 20% more now in AU. Even the 1400 cards are OOS.
I tried the night to get one at msrp 9070XT, but PC CASE GEAR website simply crashed.
5070 is still showing higher performance than the 9070xt according to this site:
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-5070-vs-AMD…
It hurts me that I'm upvoting this 'deal'..
OZbargain MSRP strikes again !