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TP-Link Omada EAP655 AX3000 Wall Plate Wi-Fi 6 Access Point $109 Delivered @ Amazon AU

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Solid ecosystem.
A lot cheaper that Ubiquiti for very similar features.
Cheapest I've seen for the EAP655.

These wall mounted access points are designed to fit in your standard wall plate cutouts.

· Superior WiFi 6 Speeds: Simultaneous 574 Mbps on 2.4 GHz and 2402 Mbps on 5 GHz totals 2976 Mbps WiFi speeds
· High-Performance Connectivity: Deliver data to more devices at the same time with less lag through OFDMA and MU-MIMO
· Complete In-Room Wi-Fi Coverage: Guaranteed strong signals and corner-to-corner WiFi coverage in each room.
· Multiple Gigabit Ports: Connect multiple devices with three downlink gigabit ports, one with PoE pass-through.
· Centralised Cloud Management: Integrates into Omada SDN for cloud access and remote management.

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  • -2

    A lot cheaper that Ubiquiti for very similar features.

    Bonus backdoors too!

    • +1

      TP-Link equipment has back doors?

      • +7

        The Omada range doesn’t have any discovered back doors.
        The cheapo tp-link routers that ISPs give away have been found to have back doors.

        • +3

          I mean if are one of the billions using TikTok they don’t need a backdoor to you AP, they already have all your data.

          • +3

            @internet-stranger: I wouldn't use TikTok.

            But even so, TikTok tracking your mobile usage isn't the same as gaining access to your internal network.

            • +5

              @PainToad: You are right. TikTok tracking your mobile usage is much worse.

              Most devices now treat all networks as untrusted. E.g. Android and iPhones use DNS over HTTPS, and websites use HTTPS so all your traffic is encrypted. The only place it’s unencrypted is your end device.
              Android and iOS will cycle MAC addresses even on trusted networks.

              I’m not saying don’t secure your network, but at this point without hard evidence (and I wouldn’t call “thinking about” a TP-Link ban in the US as evidence) use what meets your features and budget.

              I personally would never buy unifi gear again, they drop models and support without warning and there are year old bugs left unfixed, not to mention the fact they don’t follow 802x standards when they don’t feel like it (passive 24v PoE, their own roaming protocol ignoring 802.11r, etc…)

              • -2

                @internet-stranger: Also, VPN traffic gets 'broken up' and 'exposed' when it hits a proxy server and/or load-balancers (eg. CloudFlare, Akamai, etc.)

                • @whyisave:

                  Also, VPN traffic gets 'broken up' and 'exposed' when it hits a proxy server and/or load-balancers (eg. CloudFlare, Akamai, etc.)

                  'exposed' you say.

                • +1

                  @whyisave: No, it does not. That would entirely break the point of a VPN.

                • @whyisave:

                  Also, VPN traffic gets 'broken up' and 'exposed' when it hits a proxy server and/or load-balancers (eg. CloudFlare, Akamai, etc.)

                  Can you explain what you mean by this? "Broken up" and "exposed" are not technical networking terms. And a proxy or load balancer only forwards encrypted packets- neither will decrypt.

              • +3

                @internet-stranger:

                You are right. TikTok tracking your mobile usage is much worse. Most devices now treat all networks as untrusted. E.g. Android and iPhones use DNS over HTTPS, and websites use HTTPS so all your traffic is encrypted. The only place it’s unencrypted is your end device. Android and iOS will cycle MAC addresses even on trusted networks.

                Network sniffing isn't all you've got to worry about. Once an attacker is within your network they can start looking for other vulnerable devices.

                1) NAS that has exploitable protocols.
                2) Servers such as Home Assistant.
                3) Laptops and PCs with brute forceable enterypoints such as SAMBA shares, RDP, SSH (if not using private keys).
                4) Your router's telnet, SSH and webui.

                Your mindset is like "I wont lock the front door of my house while taking a shit because I lock the bathroom door".

      • +2

        People shit on Chinese brands for having backdoors but when it's TP-Link they're somehow immune.

        • -4

          People like to shit on TP Link when Ubiquiti has a history of terrible security and business practices, well beyond what other 'reputable' manufacturers manage. Personally I would trust Omada before Unifi.

      • Very secret doors…that lead alll the way back to China.

    • Searching CVE database lists 25 against Omada versus 57 for Unifi. Omada isn't perfect but what is perfect at that price point?

      • Just to be clear, CVE means a vulnerability or bug that can be exploited for gain (sometimes access)
        Backdoor is something added intentionally to gain “secret” access.

        • +1

          A found backdoor can end up as a CVE though
          :)

    • Everything has a backdoor.

      You just choose, who you think you want inside.

      • +3

        Indeed. As we learned from Snowden that the NSA were tampering with Cisco routers. Meanwhile I was involved with the rollout of Cisco routers for DFAT and they were shipped pre-configured from Telstra's China subsidiary. And when the Australian government banned Huawei from building it's 5G network over security concerns I was rolling out Huawei routers shipped from China as part of the Optus' backbone.

        So it's as you say. Everyone has backdoors and it's up to you to choose which nation(s) have access.

        • -1

          Thanks for the 'upvote'.

          Nooticers getting negged for nooticing too much, has become the norm.

          Most people would even be shocked to hear the stuff Meta [FB, IG, WA] gets up to as well.

        • Mikrotik?

  • +2

    Have 3 of these around the house (2 storey house) and they have been working really well. Switched from some old UniFi gear and worked out a lot cheaper to buy a new PoE switch and new APs than just getting the switch from Ubiquiti. 3 more ordered for the rest of the house now.

    • Ubiquiti may be expensive, but does TP-Link offer management panels like Ubiquiti ?

      I don't like the cloud-based options in Ubiquiti, but thought their device management is top-notch.
      (I don't have any Ubiquiti equipment, but was researching all this, a couple of years ago )

      • +1

        Omada/Festa TP Link management pages/features via their web interface/config pages are pretty much inline with Ubiquiti's offering.

        • Does TP-Link allow for a non-cloud way of registering / interacting with the management pages ?

          • +1

            @whyisave: Yes.
            I run the omada controller locally and when setting it up you have the opportunity to link it to your TP-Link cloud instance making it externally accessible (or not)

          • +1

            @whyisave: Omada series ,yes
            Festa series, no, cloud controller only

        • Just to clarify my other comment, it is completely non-cloud based. You can set that up too, if you want, but I have a wireguard VPN into my home network and use that if needed, which for the Omada/networking gear, I don't think I've ever needed.

      • +1

        Yes, they do. Omada. You can get a hardware controller or a software version. I'm running mine in a docker container on my TrueNAS box. Beeing working really well. Didn't want to invest in a hardware one to start with, in case I didn't like the system, but I will now have 6 of these EAPs, and a 24 port PoE switch, so I think a hardware controller might be next (the OC300, avoid the OC200, it is apparently under powered).

        • Omada also has a free cloud controller for those who don’t want to ru their own.

        • In what way is the OC200 under powered? Do you have any links/references to that matter?

        • Thank you for your reply and your suggestions.

          I'll look into Omada, etc.

          I don't mind TP-Link equipment, but don't have any experience from the last 10 years, as I moved more towards ASUS and so didn't know how good TP-Link become, or how they can scale with a home-wide network.

          ( I used ASUS only in a home setting, but know that I need a better managed network, when I need to integrate a lot more devices, with HomeAssistant, etc. )

        • I run the controller on a raspberry pi I had hanging around

      • +1

        but does TP-Link offer management panels like Ubiquiti ?

        Ubiquiti fanboys slam TP Link for essentially copying Unifi Controller for the Omada product line. Omada fans praise TP Link for essentially copying Unifi Controller.

        So TP Link Omada… yeah.

        But TP Link also makes lots of home product lines, which have nothing to do with Omada.

        • That's a lot clearer now :-)

    • These are just different access points though yeah? Not a mesh ?

      • If they are Omada APs, then they will run as a mesh. As will loads of other (but not all) TP Link products.

      • +1

        Mesh can be enabled but only through the Controller.
        If you run them standalone, mesh is disabled by default.

        • Can mesh settings be enabled via a phone app, or do you need to a full controller?

          Presumably it's like the Unifi Controller that you can spin up just to make config changes, and not need to run all the time.

          • @rumblytangara: Unfortunately you need the controller running otherwise the nodes will just act like dumb AP's.
            The controller does all the heavy lifting in Omada.

            • @SuiCid3:

              nodes will just act like dumb AP's.

              Hmm… that's really odd. I would have expected the AP onboard processors to take perhaps initial routing config from a controller, and if that controller goes down then they'd still route between each other as a mesh. They might not be able to dynamically heal without an active controller in case of a further AP failure, but they should still run as a mesh. It would blow my mind that the controller disappearing would blow up the whole mesh network- that would be terrible design and a massive single point of failure for an office setup.

              iirc the Unifi setup works this way (APs run as a mesh once initially configured with a controller) and I believe that an active controller is still necessary to do simple things like reallocate wifi bands according to congestion. I never bothered testing self healing with the Unifi system though.

              (I'm just happy to be using a system that doesn't rely on a !@#$ discrete controller instance)

              • @rumblytangara: Hmm.. actually, I'm not 100% certain in regards to the mesh, but I know all the other managed services (fast roaming, band steering, etc) do require the controller to be running.

                I'm assuming that with enabling mesh needing to be done via the controller, it would also mean a controller is needed.

  • +1

    I have never seen these before, we are building a house soon - will definitely keep these in mind as we want it to all be network-hard-wired in.

    • Good thing with these, is they also have a PoE output socket too.

    • Just be mindful that they are intended to cover a single room (think hotel rooms etc) so they won't cover a large area like their ceiling mounted APs

      • No issues with 3x EAP615 covering a large single storey, but yes, the ceiling mounted ones would probably give better coverage

      • Generally better to have more spread out rather than one screaming as loud as it can. You should also get better roaming of devices when you turn the radio power down.

    • These are very handy in that if you have an existing standard network wall port installed somewhere, you can just take out the jack and push it back into the wall then run a short patch lead to this AP, and it will mount back to the existing bracket.

      Ubiquiti also make a similar range (but also a lot more expensive), as do other brands (though not as popular).

      They're also powered through PoE so that single cable run is more than enough. As well as offering PoE pass through on 1 port and additional etherthet ports as well.

      Another bonus with these is that they provide

    • +1

      I just got our house patched in every room and will be installing one of these in each room. If you do that, make sure you turn the power down on them or you'll get really bad roaming. You'll also have 3 ports in each room then, instead of just the one from the wall socket.

      • It also helps to set the ap to drop clients below a signal strength threshold

  • If I connect this to my router via an Ethernet cable, does this work like a repeater/range extender?

    • It's an access point, not a range extender/repeater.
      It will work fine as a new access point to your wireless network in the sense that it will 'extend' your network, but if you don't have any other Omada based AP's and not using their controller, then you lose out on fast roaming, and all the things that a managed netowkr brings.

      You can also use it as a standalone AP and it'll work like every other AP.

  • How is this better than the Xiaomi AX3000T , which is cheaper, can be used both as AP or router, runs OpenWRT? Is the wall mount worth that much extra minus all the additional features of the Xiaomi?

    • -1

      What advantages does this motorcar have over, say, a train? Which I could also afford.

      • I am sure you can mount the xiaomi on a wall if you really try, but you cannot convert a motorcar into a train

        • Is the wall mount worth that much extra minus all the additional features of the Xiaomi?

          If you want wallmount, then yes. If you don't want wallmount, then no. If you have a nice home and care about things like aesthetics, then maybe stuff like this is important. If you are renting, then probably not.

          Clearly, this product is for people who do not need all the extra router features of a cheapo Xiaomi because… they already have a router and just want dedicated APs. Omada is a corporate level product with integrated management for handling a fleet of APs, higher levels of QC, likely to have product roadmaps with EoL dates.

          They are utterly different products. You could use a 48 port Layer 3 switch as your home firewall as well, but it still isn't a good idea for most people.

          but you cannot convert a motorcar into a train

          Really?

          Personally, I wouldn't bother with wallmount APs as I think they are a bit silly and I don't mind discrete APs sitting in view. But I would also never use my own money to buy a Xiaomi router, nor would I set one up at anyone elses' house.

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