Tropical Cyclone Alfred SE Queensland and Northern NSW

morse on 03/03/2025 - 12:28
Last edited 06/03/2025 - 18:29

QLD Disaster dashboard including links to local dashboard
https://www.disaster.qld.gov.au/tropical-cyclone-Alfred

For anyone who lives here or visiting:
- Predicted path http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDQ65002.shtml
- Queensland warnings http://www.bom.gov.au/qld/warnings/
- road closures https://qldtraffic.qld.gov.au/

Thanks to @BewareOfTheDog
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_radio_station_callsi…
Here is a list of Radio stations from the ABC News, just now:-
* Brisbane 612AM
* Gold Coast 91.7FM
* Sunshine Coast 90.3FM, 95.3FM, 1566AM
* Wide Bay 855AM, 100.1FM, 88.3FM
* NSW North Coast (Richmond and Tweed) 94.5FM
* Murwillumbah 720AM
* Grafton 738AM

101.5 fm for Moreton Bay. Thanks Sam-1966

NSW SES have started evacuation warnings(ses.nsw.gov.au) in Northern NSW. https://www.ses.nsw.gov.au/

Make sure you secure stuff outside and check in on any neighbours that might need help doing
Keep up to date via ABC Radio and local SES pages. If anyone has any useful info, updates or pictures please post in the comments.

please refer to gov sources in terms of predicted path and intensity.

Stay safe everyone!

General Discussion Cyclone

Comments

  • MS Paint on 03/03/2025 - 12:32
    +41

    Stay safe everyone in SEQ. Remember to never drive through flooded roads. NEVER.

  • ForkSnorter on 03/03/2025 - 13:59

    Interesting that they know the route of the cyclone will almost completely reverse direction on Tuesday. I wonder how confident that prediction is.

    • MrThing on 03/03/2025 - 14:19
      +3

      The boss must have drawn the edit in with a sharpie

    • grr1701 on 04/03/2025 - 18:09

      It just reversed course now.

    • jrowls on 04/03/2025 - 22:25
      +4

      they know this because (well, it's happened by now, so there's that…) because there was a high pressure zone down toward tas/vic tracking west to east.

      the predictions were so confident for the change in direction because once the high pressure zone got far enough east, away from the coast, there would essentially be a vacuum to drag the cyclone quickly toward the southwest.

  • try2bhelpful on 03/03/2025 - 14:09
    +3

    Everyone stay safe and please don't do anything stupid. Just hunker down somewhere safe until is passes. Best of luck people.

  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 03/03/2025 - 15:07
    +15

    apparently a bit of a frenzy going on with people loading up on bottled water / tp / meats / eggs (???) / eskys / torches

    me: drowning in torches from all the ozbargain deals

    • Chandler on 03/03/2025 - 15:21
      +2

      Jimothy (but with torches…)

      • Jimothy Wongingtons on 03/03/2025 - 15:23
        +2

        Me: I bet it’s the sausage gif

        Clicks

        Hahahaha so good

    • morse on 03/03/2025 - 18:56
      +1

      Which is kinda crazy as if the power goes out, (which is highly likely) it’s all going to go off if it needs to be refrigerated, especially the meat. And realistically how much TP are you going to use in 24hrs.

      • Jimothy Wongingtons on 03/03/2025 - 18:58

        I guess tp fair game… not gonna expire

        The rest yeah…

        I regret not doing the weekly shop on Saturday like I normally do - just passed the shops and it’s absolutely chockers - like I only see it that full during the week leading up to Christmas kinda chockers

        • morse on 03/03/2025 - 19:03
          +2

          Shops were quiet on the weekend too, even Sunday, and we’ve know this cyclone is coming for a while now. I guess everyone went to work and got hyped up with fomo panic.

          • Jimothy Wongingtons on 03/03/2025 - 19:05
            +2

            @morse: Yeah it’s funny. The more I talked to clients today and the more you talk to people the thought in back of head starts to form like uh oh… it HAS Been some time since I went up on the roof to inspect gutters and downpipes…and we don’t have a 4 month stockpile of meat… hmm

            Some dads in their little group at the school pickup were comparing their water stockpiles, bathtubs of water, buckets, esky’s of water and they were planning to hit Bunnings after to grab some more containers/eskys - I’m just listening like… hang on isn’t this only supposed to last a few days…

      • Protractor on 03/03/2025 - 19:49
        -4

        Power? On the bright side any coastal nuclear plant would go full blown Fukushima in an event like that. Another reason to count our blessings.

        • gyrex on 04/03/2025 - 10:18

          Yeh, that's why none of the proposed sites in Australia are anywhere near a coastline subject to cyclones. Nuclear power plants are typically the most resilient buildings on any continent and built to withstand the most severe cyclones, earthquakes, floods etc. Stop posting absolute nonsense.

          • Protractor on 04/03/2025 - 10:30
            -3

            @gyrex: Good to hear Dutton has an endless reliable supply of water inland then. Funny how nobody else has discovered it.(If you think the Great Artesian Basin is it, think again.It's depleting and over allocated already) Where's all the waste water going? You do know inland or not, post disaster it has to dealt with How is Fukushima going with that process? Chernobyl all clear is it? How much did the mega bandaid cost Ukraine and Euope? What are the downstream generational consequences? You know like radiation for tens of kms away at Maralinga?

            Stop posting absolute ~nonsense.~~ LNP propagandaBS

          • Goremans on 04/03/2025 - 18:36
            +5

            @gyrex: Nuclear would have made sense if we started 10-15years ago.

            I'm not against (new) nuclear but its ABSURD how many very very real hurdles there are to STARTING a nuclear industry in Australia.

            It wouldn't even touch the average households power bill for 20 years….and there is plenty of real world evidence that they dont bring prices down anyway.

            Lots of nonsense floating around. It was literally the ANP waking up one day and realising there is an election - and pulled a "what to campaign on" card from a box.

            Dutton is leaning more and more into the sensationalism of Trumpism. That* should stay out of Australia. 🇦🇺

            • gyrex on 05/03/2025 - 22:16
              -4

              @Goremans: A bit off topic but some of Trump's policies are pretty good IMO, In particular cleaning house in government eg. Sacking useless, unproductive government employees and bureaucrats and radically slashing government spending. We desperately need to do the same in Australia.

              The way he treated Zelenski, however, was disgraceful.

              • isthisreallife22 on 05/03/2025 - 22:18
                +4

                @gyrex:

                Sacking useless, unproductive government employees and bureaucrats

                Lol if that's what you think he's done. Of course you'd find few that argue with that, every government tries that to an extent. He's not doing that though, he's just cutting swathes through their programs, mainly in international influence, which is pure political rather than anything to do with efficiency.

                • gyrex on 05/03/2025 - 22:23

                  @isthisreallife22: Not true that every government tries to do that. They might say they will do it but nothing eventuates. We haven't had a government on either side of the aisle for 20 years who've cut government spending or looked at ways of increasing productivity and slashing headcount.

                  I've had a close look at doge.gov and it's impressive how much they've saved and how they've saved it and a similar scheme would be something which would be welcomed with open arms in Australia by taxpayers.

                  • Goremans on 06/03/2025 - 13:00
                    +2

                    @gyrex: "DOGE says it's saved $105 billion, though it's backtracked on some of its earlier claims. The total figure remains unverifiable due to the limited documentation provided".

                    In other words its an unknown as to how much they've saved.

                    "Since its inception, the DOGE savings tracker has been plagued with inaccuracies. Errors have included confusing billions with millions, triple-counting cancellations, and crediting DOGE for contracts that had ended years prior. Last week, significant errors were identified, including an agreement with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. DOGE initially reported that cancellation was a $8 billion savings, whereas the actual value was $8 million".

                    They actually fired folks working in securing nuclear material. After which they renegged when realising what they had done, then changed their mind again and fired some people. Its a mess!

                    https://youtube.com/shorts/K2iOBsGmJAI?si=B9WWdRnXiuCKp6l4

              • try2bhelpful on 05/03/2025 - 22:27
                +3

                @gyrex: The best way to cut the useless government would be fur a trump and Vance to resign. Governments need workers to provide services. The biggest lie is that the public service is bloated and unproductive. When they fire permanent workers they just hire consultants at an even more expensive rate.

                • gyrex on 05/03/2025 - 23:01
                  +2

                  @try2bhelpful: I worked for 15 years at various private companies during my career then took 2 12 month contracts with 2 separate government entities and I was absolutely flabbergasted with how unproductive and wasteful they were. I was so angry to see how my tax dollars were wasted and how little people worked and how little they delivered in those organisations so I know first hand how poor productivity is in government.

                  We could probably slash 30-40% of the government workforce and it'd still produce the same results.

                  • try2bhelpful on 06/03/2025 - 05:49
                    +1

                    @gyrex: I’ve worked for both Government and big businesses, they are basically the same. However the biggest problem in both cases is the management not the workforce. Firing people achieves nothing if you don’t do a proper restructure of the organisation and improve the tools and procedures to continue to generate the deliverables. All that happens is jobs are slashed and then companies/departments realise they can’t function on the skeleton staff so they hire more staff and/or get in expensive consultants to try to fill the gap. In the meantime they have lost domain knowledge and years of experience. The biggest joke is the attempt at outsourcing the work, management can’t write a contract to save their lives. I’ve been the idiot trying to make these work at a practical level. Anything useful was an added cost because it wasn’t covered in the contract. This is the reason I was glad I managed to negotiate a golden parachute package during one of the slash and burn cycles.

                    The real problem is management won’t look at itself so we are doomed to a continuous cycle of failure.

              • FlyingMiffy on 06/03/2025 - 11:56
                +1

                @gyrex: The gem was when he fired the entire nuclear weapons division only to hire them back a day later… that what happens i guess when you go with the assumption that government employees are unless and unproductive. Heres the catch, he thought Department of Energy = useless. Haha

          • lymon on 05/03/2025 - 01:12
            +4

            @Sammy Boi: Absolutely this.

            Nuclear power
            - is expensive
            - takes forever to arrive
            - can't be price matched at officeworks
            - is not a bargain

            • Olli on 05/03/2025 - 16:21

              @lymon: apart from that it takes forever to build, you also end up with the toxic rubbish which up until now is just hidden deep in the ground.

                • Olli on 05/03/2025 - 16:24

                  @c64: please

                • saltypete on 06/03/2025 - 09:31
                  +1

                  @c64: No, the Uranium they mine is as safe as any other ore. But after intense refining and converted to Plutonium in a fission reactor it's highly dangerous - and remains so for thousands of years.
                  Im reasonably comfortable with the concept of long term storage - less comfortable with the actual practice.
                  While the stupid cost and pointlessness of nuclear as an option for OZ is overwhelming, we shouldnt lose sight of the storage problem.

              • grr1701 on 06/03/2025 - 13:38
                +1

                @Olli: Worse than that, Small Modular Reactors which Trutton is proposing AREN’T commercially available. So, how he’s pricing them is total nonsense. His aim is to keep burning fossil fuels for as long as possible.

                • Olli on 06/03/2025 - 16:49

                  @grr1701: yea mate same being proposed back home in Germany as short term solution, even though not even available. Go and figure

    • LFO on 04/03/2025 - 22:57

      I read Costco Coomera run out of generators … yes people are buying power generators hoping to return them if not needed.

      No mention of buying fuel as well. Or very long extension cords. Too technical for some.

      • Cave Fire on 06/03/2025 - 12:33

        They were on special and only about five left when I was there.

        • LFO on 07/03/2025 - 12:06

          Which brings the question: how many were sold before sold-out?

          Wouldn't potential generators users have already a generator and a house electrically wired to support a generator?

          Are they buying "just in case"?
          To plug the fridge & TV and show-off/bother the neighbors?

  • eek on 03/03/2025 - 15:16
    +6

    Bottled water is the new TP! Pulled into the carpark to see almost everyone loading water into their cars.
    Some people had entire trolley full of bottled water. NUTS.

    • Jimothy Wongingtons on 03/03/2025 - 15:23
      +8

      Hydro homies unite

    • tenpercent on 03/03/2025 - 15:31

      What are you going to drink if the public water system gets shut off or contaminated?

      • BOGOF on 03/03/2025 - 15:35
        +7

        Beer?

        • Protractor on 03/03/2025 - 16:08
          -2

          Exactly!
          Water?
          That's Un-a-strayan.

      • Poor Ass on 03/03/2025 - 15:59
        +2

        with the amount of deals here probably coconut water

        • Protractor on 03/03/2025 - 16:09
          -1

          More like peanut water in QLD

          • Poor Ass on 03/03/2025 - 16:17

            @Protractor: sorry don't get it

            we already have the Brisbane river for that if you are referring to the colour

            • Protractor on 03/03/2025 - 16:18

              @Poor Ass: Really?

              • try2bhelpful on 03/03/2025 - 16:46

                @Protractor: I suspect you are making a Joh comment?

                • Protractor on 03/03/2025 - 17:49
                  +1

                  @try2bhelpful: I mean it is the peanut state. Not the coconut state.Kingaroy would be aghast

                  • try2bhelpful on 03/03/2025 - 18:42

                    @Protractor: Between Joh and Russ my god how corrupt was that state? They said Queensland didn’t have daylight saving because the sun shone out of Joh’s arse and he wasn’t getting up an hour earlier for anyone.

                    • Protractor on 03/03/2025 - 19:46
                      +1

                      @try2bhelpful: LOL.
                      Russ Hinze. What a flash back.Not in a good way.
                      QLD was effectively a separate political area back then. JBP just ignored the federation and constitution.
                      I think he was a money printing kind of genius.

                    • saltypete on 06/03/2025 - 09:35

                      @try2bhelpful: Still dont have daylight saving…….

            • MrThing on 04/03/2025 - 11:47

              @Poor Ass: Qld is full of peanut brains

              • Poor Ass on 04/03/2025 - 11:52
                +1

                @MrThing: pretty sure it's a mixed bag anywhere you go

      • try2bhelpful on 03/03/2025 - 16:05
        +10

        You can fill containers around the house with water from the taps beforehand and fill the bath with water.

      • morse on 03/03/2025 - 17:41
        +9

        Just prefill containers rather than buying.

      • iCandy on 04/03/2025 - 08:35

        Fill up the bath. Then you won’t have to ingest microplastic from the cheap bottled water. If longer than a couple of days, use water purification tablets on water from bath. Meanwhile, shops will still open…

        • tenpercent on 04/03/2025 - 11:16

          Mmmm heavy metals, fluoride, soap residue and dust. Yum.

          • ForkSnorter on 04/03/2025 - 16:15
            +1

            @tenpercent: that sounds like a pretty old bathtub.

            • tenpercent on 04/03/2025 - 16:17
              -1

              @ForkSnorter: heavy metals and fluoride from the public water
              soap residue from the tub
              dust from the air

              • ForkSnorter on 04/03/2025 - 16:19

                @tenpercent: Not sure about the heavy metals in the water. You'd be more likely to inhale heavy metals driving on the freeway.

              • try2bhelpful on 04/03/2025 - 16:24
                -2

                @tenpercent: You must panic everytime you get water from the shower into your mouth.

                • tenpercent on 04/03/2025 - 16:29

                  @try2bhelpful: You can get either whole house water filters or filters for your shower.
                  Reducing your total exposure to ingested toxins isn't a bad thing.

                  • try2bhelpful on 04/03/2025 - 16:38
                    -1

                    @tenpercent: The amount of toxins is pretty tiny unless you have lead pipes in your house. Fluoride is very important for your teeth, as anyone who grew up without it will attest to. You might be drinking the bath water for a couple of days and you probably get more soap residue from your shampoo than you will from the bath. .At least the reservoir water is tested, God knows what is in the bottled water.

                    • tenpercent on 04/03/2025 - 18:31

                      @try2bhelpful:

                      You might be drinking the bath water for a couple of days and you probably get more soap residue from your shampoo than you will from the bath.

                      I'm confused. What's your process for shampooing your hair? Do you apply the shampoo, lather, rinse the shampoo water into your mouth and then spit or swallow?

                      • try2bhelpful on 04/03/2025 - 19:00

                        @tenpercent: When you wash your hair you get small amounts of shampoo water in your mouth as you rinse. If you look at the amount of soap residue in a whole bath it would be much more dilute than that.

                    • tenpercent on 04/03/2025 - 19:46
                      -4

                      @try2bhelpful: You're misinformed. Fluoride is pretty unimportant for your teeth, regardless what a dentist who wants to bill you for a 'treatment' involving fluoride (i.e. a conflict of interest) says. There is no causal association between fluoridation of water and dental carries. The same down trends in dental disease have been observed in areas which do not fluoridate their water as areas which do (ergo its some other factor responsible for a reduction in dental disease in the latter part of the 20th century).

                      Perhaps you drank too much fluoridated water as a kid.

                      This review finds, with moderate confidence, that higher estimated fluoride exposures (e.g., as in approximations of exposure such as drinking water fluoride concentrations that exceed the World Health Organization Guidelines for Drinking-water Quality of 1.5 mg/L of fluoride) are consistently associated with lower IQ in children.

                      • try2bhelpful on 05/03/2025 - 10:45
                        +1

                        @tenpercent: The maximum level of fluoride in Victoria's drinking water is 1 mg/L, or 1 part per million (ppm).

                        The National Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC) recommends that Australian states and territories fluoridate their drinking water supplies between 0.6–1.1 mg/L.

                        So we are well within the limits highlighted by the study.

                        If you read the rest of it the evidence is pretty patchy all around with the studies.

                        • tenpercent on 05/03/2025 - 11:28
                          +1

                          @try2bhelpful:

                          the evidence is pretty patchy all around

                          And yet some areas are mass medicating entire populations through the drinking water, not even considering that one person may drink for example twice as much as another person and therefore receive different cumulative doses that do not take into account age, height, sex, fluoride intake from food and other sources, etc.

                          FYI, the majority of the EU does not fluoridate their water and they don't have massive dental disease issues. Fluoride is not:

                          very important for your teeth

                      • modernhunter on 06/03/2025 - 18:02
                        -1

                        @tenpercent: Flouridealert is an activist site which promotes unreliable junk science and conspiracies.

      • Name on 04/03/2025 - 19:51

        I barely drink water as it is. 🍻 I'll survive in beer and soft drink for a few days.

      • Sean8802 on 04/03/2025 - 21:17

        Pee

    • Chandler on 03/03/2025 - 17:06
      +8

      Some people forget they have taps at home that cost them ~$5 per 1000 litres. Much cheaper than the bottled stuff at the shops: ~$700 per 1000 litres!

        • try2bhelpful on 03/03/2025 - 18:44

          Might be a tad contaminated by all the shit blowing around, perhaps including your containers.

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