MotorScout - How Much Commission Do They Take from The Dealership?

robjow on 28/02/2025 - 13:48

Engaged Motorscout https://www.motorscout.com.au/ (New Car broker)
They were honestly a bit painful to deal with. When they weren't sending through any bids under the RRP for the car I wanted I sent an email saying I'm willing to buy if you can just get me $1000 off. To this they closed my enquiry and when I asked them what was going on they said they didn't want to waste my time as no dealers were offering discounts on that model. They then called me a day later and said that one dealer was willing to selling at $1000 below RRP but at this stage was not happy with motorscouts communication and service and passed.

My Question: does anyone know what commission Motorscout earn - this will will guide my own negoatiations. I assume its in the realm of $500 to $1000?

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Comments

  • boomramada on 28/02/2025 - 14:12
    +6

    Why do you need to know? Either you negotiate or use someone else service? If you think you can do better, no need to use their service. Service costs money and money that you are willing to pay to save your time and effort.

    • plmko on 28/02/2025 - 14:30

      It's ridiculous isn't it.

    • Jimothy Wongingtons on 28/02/2025 - 14:36
      +3

      The way I read it they will use the information and approach the dealer and harass the sales person over why they can’t get at least $1000 off as well if a broker can get that, plus get paid for their time/effort.

      • boomramada on 28/02/2025 - 14:43
        -1

        Well not sure which type of car OP is after, it could be one of those brands/models, dealer wouldn't budge any more than what they can offer.

        On those cases, these services are useless.

      • robjow on 28/02/2025 - 15:40
        -7

        Wow didn't know Ozbaragin was full of grumpy Car Salesman and car brokers…"Harrass the sales person" - Never thought I would hear that car sales people are helpless beings that need our protection! back to reality my man.

        and @boomramada Motorscout did F-All other than sell around I wanted the car - it is bare-bones negotiation for people who are too scared to negotiate themselves. I had to press them to get the bare minimum - So basically I did all the work. And yeah - F'em - had they had half decent commuication I would have taken their deal and they would have been paid, but they didn't, so now Im gonna use their deal + whatever their comission they charge as leverage for my own deal now.

        • SBOB on 28/02/2025 - 18:57

          it is bare-bones negotiation for people who are too scared to negotiate themselves

          Didn't you start the post with Engaged Motorscout

        • fantombloo on 01/03/2025 - 00:54
          +2

          Fair question IMO.

          I used a broker a few years ago (just at the start of COVID, about the time buying a new car went to crap) and they found "one car" for me at just a touch under retail. I found the car matching the description myself that weekend when I went out for a final look before committing - I suspected it was the same car - it was all a fluke. Brought up the broker, got another few hundred off straight from the dealer, canned the broker. I was expecting them to get me something I couldn't do myself, turned out not.

    • Dr Phil on 01/03/2025 - 18:38
      -4

      100% correct and none of OP's business
      Nor is Motorscout's renumeration relevent to OP.

      Its not like OP has Motorscout's massive bargaining power.

      • pwnd on 02/03/2025 - 12:30
        +2

        A name change doesn’t change your habit of hanging off the top comment, or your complete lack of useful information.

  • spackbace on 28/02/2025 - 14:23

    What car are you looking at?

    • MS Paint on 28/02/2025 - 15:16
      +3

      Probably a Rav 4 hybrid lol

      • pegaxs on 28/02/2025 - 22:28
        +7

        Close, but no cigar

        • MS Paint on 28/02/2025 - 22:39
          +1

          Lol.

        • Daabido on 02/03/2025 - 16:07

          As in both are technically cars, then close.

  • JDMcarfan on 28/02/2025 - 14:30

    I bet this person is looking at a Toyota hybrid. If my hunch is correct, then there isnt really any room for them to play in.
    getting RRP in itself is a win when they can easily flog the same car for a few k profit to people walking into a dealer (waiting months) or several k if its already on the lot.
    If you want RRP then order online yourself and deal with whatever wait time comes with it.

    Motorscout imo has been a good company to deal with, they have saved my relative of mine 25k on a BMW (shows the margin they sell at), when i last bought with them. I wanted a quote for a Toyota hybrid myself, and the same person i dealt the last time, was open in saying that they get little interest from Toyota dealers and thus have little incentive themselves, as they dont budge on RRP for them. They managed to get a $500 discount to RRP but pricing still wasnt attractive enough to commit (alongside a 6 month wait)

    • shxhshzhz on 28/02/2025 - 14:43

      Does Toyota still increase the price when it's finally delivered after several months?

    • nubix on 28/02/2025 - 18:01

      I've also been very happy with Motorscout, having purchased 2 vehicles through them in the last 5 years. I tried going directly to the dealer for the second vehicle but got a much better price through Motorscout. I'm not willing to spend the time shopping around dealers so this was a great way to get 10-15% off RRP for minimal effort.

  • JIMB0 on 28/02/2025 - 14:46
    +9

    Thankfully no one has yet mentioned that EV hating flog with a youtube channel and a "brokerage".

    • Wiadro on 28/02/2025 - 15:04
      +2

      john cadogan the clown?

    • tenpercent on 28/02/2025 - 22:42
      +1

      You did.

        • tenpercent on 01/03/2025 - 09:22
          +2

          I don't get the reference.
          I'm completely unfamiliar with

          that EV hating flog with a youtube channel

          except that you mentioned them.

          • JIMB0 on 01/03/2025 - 11:01
            -1

            @tenpercent: Mentioned who?

            • tenpercent on 01/03/2025 - 11:11
              +2

              @JIMB0:

              that EV hating flog with a youtube channel

              • JIMB0 on 01/03/2025 - 11:21
                -1

                @tenpercent: That could be any number of people.

                • tenpercent on 01/03/2025 - 13:23

                  @JIMB0: I see. Like I said

                  I'm completely unfamiliar with

                  that EV hating flog with a youtube channel

  • aubh on 28/02/2025 - 16:22
    +2

    Sometimes I feel the dealerships are quite dishonest, the price they offered could varied from thousands to tens of thousands. Especially the EU cars. I was told by my sales that my purchase price is ridiculously 40k less than RRP. What's purpose of having a unrealistic RRP? Does anyone know if there is a place for people to share how much they paid for their car from which dealership? Won't that make buyer's life easier?

  • Downvoter on 28/02/2025 - 16:46

    Why do you want a hybrid specifically?

  • uncompressed on 28/02/2025 - 20:11
    +1

    I've used them in the past and have been always happy with the service they'd provided. Sure you can go do the rounds yourself and negotiate, but ultimately, they got me vehicles at a price I was willing to pay with no fuss, and they were up front about what can and cannot be achieved. If I was buying another vehicle, they are my first point of contact for sure.

  • hasselbladsnapper on 28/02/2025 - 22:27

    This price thing is interesting. I was looking at a Volvo but they are asking the same money for 2024 build, and now in 2025 they are asking the same money yet again!.
    IF you were trading in, the price offered would be based on the original build year …… pricing works in one direction but not the other!.

    My Volvo thing is on the back burner until I can get 2025 build stock or at least the 2024 build is discounted $$$ at some stage. The XC 40 is built in China by Geeley so its not a high cost European build series.

  • amahon on 01/03/2025 - 11:13
    +1

    I used Motorscout back when purchasing my daughter's Jimny. I did the local thing with dealerships on the Coast and in Tweed. I wasn't happy with the prices I was getting so decided to try Motorscout. I ended up getting it from a dealership in Brisbane for $1,500 less than any of the local quotes. The process was straightforward, If I were buying another vehicle using Motorscout would be a no brainer.

  • 2esc on 01/03/2025 - 12:43

    Where exactly was the painful bit when dealing with Motorscout?

    Just sounds like you were after a car in a hurry that was hard to get a deal on and they didnt want to waste your time.

  • TheOtherLeft on 01/03/2025 - 12:54

    I used Motorscout a couple of months ago. They were cheaper then I could find after contacting several dealers. It was hassle-free.

    • kiitos on 02/03/2025 - 00:35

      Can I ask how much cheaper? And for what?

  • confusedhuh on 02/03/2025 - 08:41
    +1

    I have a weird feeling that dealerships will be gone soon and all companies will be using the direct 2 consumer model.

    • drprox on 02/03/2025 - 15:34
      +1

      when you say 'weird feeling' you mean the widespread media that has been saying it for years and the fact that more recently a number of brands have adopted this approach? It's already on its way.

  • gromit on 02/03/2025 - 09:46

    why does it matter how much commission they take. You aren't in the buying power or leverage position they have so you can't assume you could use that as a basis for what you can argue for. while they may be happy to lose out of $500 more to motorscout on the basis they will get more future sales, that doesn't mean they would even consider that for someone directly negotiating

  • THICKnSLOW on 02/03/2025 - 12:04
    +1

    Pay a middleman to get the other middleman to take a lower cut in commission - sounds constructive and progressive.

  • SuperMid on 02/03/2025 - 12:55

    Op is the type of person to send a message starting with "discount?"

  • vengeance88 on 02/03/2025 - 14:33
    +1

    My local dealer wanted to charge me RRP after a test drive on a hybrid. Motorscout got me about 4% off at a different dealership. I asked Motorscout to see if they could get my local dealer to price match to keep both parties happy. Dealer said no because there was a $500 commission on top of a lowered price. So I went with Motorscout's deal.

    • tenpercent on 02/03/2025 - 14:50

      Did you at least ask your local dealer to match it?

      • vengeance88 on 02/03/2025 - 15:53
        +1

        Yep. They wouldn’t budge from RRP.

  • TightAl on 02/03/2025 - 16:17

    Come back to us, would love to know if you actually got a discount.

    You seem adamant you can leverage Motorscout's pricing without their volume.

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