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Lenovo IdeaPad Slim 5x OLED Laptop: Snapdragon X, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD $1039 Delivered @ Lenovo Outlet

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This is much cheaper than the current sales and Lenovo regular store pricing. The stock is new. Note there may be some cheaper Slim5x models on the outlet store but $1039 models are the pick of the crop, with about 8 left (of top-spec models) at the time of posting.

Processor : Snapdragon® X Plus X1P-42-100 Processor (3.40 GHz )
Operating System : Windows 11 Home 64 ARM
Graphic Card : Integrated Qualcomm® Adreno™ GPU
Memory : 32 GB LPDDR5X-8448MHz (Soldered)
Storage : 1 TB SSD M.2 2242 PCIe Gen4 TLC
Display : 14" WUXGA (1920 x 1200), OLED, Glare, Non-Touch, 100%DCI-P3, 400 nits, 60Hz

Note: Snapdragon X Plus (not Elite), this is 8 core model, but for just a tick over $1K it's a ripper deal. I ordered one just to dip my toes into ARM64 Windows. If it goes well I'll grab an Snapdragon X Elite 2 later this year when they're released.

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  • +6

    Good if you just want to run Office, too many of my apps outside of Office365 are still on Intel , and not sure what the overhead is for emulation or compatablity.

    • -1

      and not sure what the overhead is for emulation or compatablity.

      Never tried SD processor laptop, but I heard they are quite OK.

    • +5

      Most x64 stuff will work fine under Prism with a lot of stuff now having native ARM64 support. The main issue is VPN (they rely on network drivers), Printer drivers, and stuff like that.

      • What about gaming?

      • +4

        Besides VPNs and some printers not working, there are also many other hardware drivers that haven't been ported, and some that may never be. Other things that won't work are virtual machine hosts like VmWare, and games that have DRM.

        Microsoft abandoned those who'd bought into Windows 8 on ARM back in 2015. Hopefully ARM is too big now for MS to screw their customers over again.

        • Don't forget gaming.

          Basically forget about it

    • +6

      Not true… I have a Surface Laptop 7. Chrome, Brave, Office, Vscode, WSL (Ubuntu), Docker, Git, Photoshop, Lightroom all run native so I can run the whole dev stack without emulation…

      The only app I've had performance issues with under emulation is Discord (Open source Legcord is an arm native alt), and the only incompatible app I've had is Forticlient VPN - No solution yet, the msstore version doesn't support SAML.

      The list of native apps is only getting bigger by the day. https://windowsonarm.org/

  • +5

    Should just get a samsung with snapdragon elite and dex it.

    • +2

      I know it's a joke, but Dex is single screen only, can't run windows apps, single browser window, etc.

      • +4

        Ah k. I really think they should utilise our phone. So one device is tablet laptop and phone. Save on having the same processor 3 times.

        • +1

          Too right. The phone in my pocket is more powerful than most people's computers. May as well just having a docking station.

          Chrome OS is going to be dropped in favour of an Android operating system for Chromebooks, so it's just a matter of time until Android works great as a laptop.

      • +2

        Google just officially enabled video out for their Pixels… and it's trash. They need a loooong way to get to get as good as Dex.

        • +2

          Having recently switched from a Samsung phone to a Pixel, I was surprised by how much on the Pixel doesn't work properly or has rough edges compared to Samsung.

          Samsung's Android is better than Google's, which is odd, as Google makes Android.

          • @RedHab: Yeah! I came from a Samsung too! A series. I miss the routines the most.

            But I went with a Pixel because of the 7 years of updates. I plan to keep this one for a while.

            • @BadGiraffe: Batteries don't last anywhere close to it. Mine loose ~20% year. 3 years and half of capacity, its not a mobile device anymore. + chances to break the screen or get it stolen.

              • @Ozzster: Pixel battery life isn't good as it is anyway. I'll see how it goes.

          • @RedHab: Samsung's android is my favourite despite what some people say. They were (or are) always at the forefront for pushing android to become better… Eg multi window, notification panel toggles… These were from the Galaxy S3.

  • Anyone checkem Lenovo Education store pricing

    • +1

      Yeah, I checked Regular, Education, and Pro stores :) The outlet is still the cheapest. I think the edu store was $1300 on sale.

  • +2
    • +1

      thicc dragon

  • +2

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/880797

    Some useful input here from Scotty himself

  • +24

    Price is amazing, so here is my 2c after using it for 6-7 months as daily driver for anyone considering buying it.

    Note, Im using Yoga Slim 7 14Q8X9 model. I'm not a gamer so have no experience with that aspect.

    Greats:
    - very lightweight
    - screen is gorgeous,
    - keyboard is great
    - a lot of stuff works either directly or through emulation
    - WSL2 works

    Not so much:
    - battery life is still not on par with MacBooks, it is better then standard x86/amd64 laptops, but far from 12-15 hours range on single charge
    - app compatibility and driver support is still hit and miss, for example Qualcomm updated graphics driver few months ago but that update is not applicable to Lenovo models
    - dev work is hit and miss, some 3rd party nodejs and python modules/packages do not exist for ARM so you cannot use native windows arm64 versions. I decided using them through WSL2 but that carries it's own set of problems.

    God damn awful:
    - random networking related lockups after resuming work. Imagine following scenario, browser with 50-500 (Ozbargain) tabs open, you return after the break and want to resume work, and machine has turned into molasses. Performance tab shows a lot of disk swapping, network activity is delayed and "throttled". This state lasts from 30 seconds to 4 minutes, and there was quite a few times when I gave up waiting and did a hard reboot. I'm not sure if this is driver issue, newtwork stack issue, or just poor ssd performance but it is happening randomly to this day. I'm using Edge and that was my first suspect, but same behaviour was with Chrome and Firefox.

    eGPUs are not working, and IMO will never work, as neither NVidia, nor AMD have zero interest to provide oxygen to Qualcomm growing their market share. Microsoft seems to punt on ARM cpus without any heavy support to make it on par with x86/amd64.

    This is my experience, your mileage may vary.

    • +6

      Thank you for that detailed writeup, and for taking the pain as a "early adopter".

      I'll probably switch to ARM in a few years, if it becomes popular.

    • +2

      Yeah, Yoga Slim 7x was my first choice but I wasn't willing to gamble $2K on ARM64 until I was sure it was for me, for $1K I'll give it a go. Hopefully it works out well as for work all I need is Windows, Chrome, Office, and Visual Studio. I care more about the power usage and battery life. I currently have a Yoga 9i with i9 + 4060 GPU and Mini LED screen and battery life is well…. "average".

    • -shows a lot of disk swapping

      Your tabs consumed lots of ram. Like 10-20 gigs. They can consume even more ram than you have, by cost of swap file on the disk. When your device goes to sleep it all goes to the disk cache, i.e. it writes 10-20 gigs + secondary writing for those who already were outside of ram. When you wake it up it reads those gigs, but because this is web pages, it needs to synch with web instead of just reading everything from the disk. Just don't let it sleep, or close the browser.

      • I know how virtual memory and disk swapping works, the point I was trying to make - this is the first machine ever that exhibited such behaviour. My habits did not change because of the ARM architecture. My Yoga Slim 7X has 32GB RAM, I have machines with less RAM that do not stall while swapping memory (resuming from sleep). Half a decade old ThinkPad 480 with 32GB of RAM would work normally (perform swapping in the background I presume).

        There is something fundamentally wrong with this setup - again not sure it it is on the level of physical components, firmware, drivers or kernel… I tried looking for clues in event log, and using performance tools - without much success. I'm not even sure if the culprit is network or ssd or kernel

        • I had the same issue as I had the same habit. But I had it on Windows, any version of it. I found good and bad solutions:
          Bad - disable swap file, and it stops cashing this much, but the browser quickly gives me an error about lack of ram and stops working.
          Good - SSD instead of HDD.

          I guess you understand what to check. IOPS and write speed, to be specific.

        • I use Firefox (can’t stand Edge, especially because Microsoft), it has a config option to delay loading inactive tabs. But upon closing and opening the software. Presumably then it just stores the tabs and URLs in RAM but not caches all the contents since they’re not loaded. Therefore uses lots less memory. Sure Chrome has the option too.

      • When your device goes to sleep it all goes to the disk cache

        This is incorrect. This happens when the device goes into HIBERNATION. When it's in sleep, it is still powered on (and the memory is still powered on).

        • When a device goes to sleep, does a user know to which exactly state of sleep it goes to? Ask the author, I am pretty sure for nearly everyone sleep is sleep as the manufacturer defined it by default, and they don't bother checking details.

          • @Ozzster: Yes you're right but I'm saying that you have got hibernation and sleep mixed up. What you've described only happens on hibernation, and not the default option (which is 'sleep')

            • @smartProverble: Yep. We can go deeper to C-states and there will be even more differences. But his exactly problem I had with hibernation/sleep, which I also rarely bother to distinguish :)
              A good question what is the default one on ARM from Lenovo and which mode gets activated in the way the author uses, i.e. close lid -> hibernate, powerbutton -> sleep.

    • browser with 50-500 (Ozbargain) tabs open

      Try putting all the ozb and related pages (including pages opened from ozb as well as from cashback sties) into a group/workplace and close them periodically. Why? Some of those tracking links keep consuming resources in the background. I thought memory leaking before. Reopening all the tabs is usually fast.

      My question: some ozb pages can consume more resources than a 4k video page. Still no answer.

      Enable start boost on Edge could help too if you haven't.

      A desktop pc with more cooling fans struggles from time to time. Not to say on a compact laptop.

      • Again, I was trying to point out different behaviour compared to machines with similar specs where the main difference was CPU architecture (arm64 vs x86/amd64), it should not be a problem that needs solving.

      • AWS console. MEMORY HOG

  • This is a GOOD DEAL

  • +1

    If they make slightly higher resolution for a bit more says $1.1k, I can convince myself to try. A few days ago, they had decent specs ones but for like $1.6k, and one yoga 7i 2in1 for under $1.5k (was $1k for a moment before lol).

  • +1

    I know its nitpicking but i wish this had an 120hz screen

    • For what? You won't be gaming on this.

      • +1

        High refresh is a nice to have even on desktop.

        Far from a deal-breaker, but it is a solid nitpick.

        • -1

          Ah ok, I suppose it could be. Personally happy with even 15fps on desktop, but not for gaming and movies (which would be 60fps)

  • +1

    Waiting for this price on the Strix Point version.

    • You'll be waiting a while…

  • How would this fair doing basic graphic design?

  • +5

    ARM for Windows will be ready in 10 years. Yes I know they said this 10 years ago but this time it will be true.

    • +1

      Just in time for the next announcement of Tesla Full self driving "ready next year",,,,

    • and Tesla will have 1000km 10 minute recharge batteries good for 1 million km or 25 years.

    • ARM for Windows is not the problem. I run ARM for Windows as my daily driver on my Mac M1 under VM and it runs fabulously. It's faster than any PC I've used and I do a lot of dev work from nodejs to C#, VSCode, VS all without a hitch. I used Teams on the VM all day, spend at least 3 hours a day on meetings and everything works fine, rock solit.

      I even forget it is Windows with the Parallels Coherence feature where it opens each app in it's own window on the mac.

      Hopefully the Snapdragons will iron out their kinks and be comparable to the M1++

      Disclaimer: I'm a Microsoft employee but use Macs as my daily driver 😂

      • 'Disclaimer: I'm a Microsoft employee but use Macs as my daily driver 😂'

        Say no more.

  • does anyone know if Visio works on this under emulation?

    • Couldn't you just use the web version?

      • +1

        Web version sucks.

  • Doesn't the OLED model have lower effective resolution than the IPS version due to its subpixel arrangement?

    • It's more due to their panel/model choice in this specific rather than being an OLED specific problem. Some android phones run OLED displays at higher resolutions on smaller panels. Asus have a 14.5inch OLED laptop running 2880x1800.

      • My point was that both the OLEd and IPS models have 1980x1200 resolution, which is rather low for an OLED due to its subpixel pattern

    • To the naked eye, makes no difference.

  • +1

    Looks like linux support for Snapdragon laptops is coming via Ubuntu 24.10 Concept heart Snapdragon X Elite.

    • +2

      Yeah but then you have to use Ubuntu.

      • I see what you did there.

      • As opposed to Windows or other distros?

        ARM support is coming to other Linux distros, is already in the kernel but they may be slower to port and test all the packages. The Ubuntu foundation has lots of resources.

        I run Gentoo, I could build an ARM system with it since it’s one of the official architectures. But haven’t looked into it too far.

  • -2

    Paid around $700 a month ago on lenovo outlet

    • -1

      That's LCD with 16GB RAM / 512GB SSD?

      • +1
        • Damn that's a ball tearer price. Was it new stock or "refurb". If new, wow that's crazy. Are you happy with it overall?

          • @BlinkyBill: New stock, there were a few laptops but some wouldn't let you check out (assuming people trying to order those) took about 20mins to finally get a order through and everything was out of stock

          • @BlinkyBill: Lenovo outlet price has been going up and up. It getting harder to find a good bargain there. Price is now similar to other store price when it on special.

  • +1

    Can it run Crysis ?

    • +1

      It'll be more of a walk than a run imo

  • Thanks OP got the last one. I was going to get a M4 Macbook Pro but this is half the money and twice the ram. Lets see how we go.

  • Seems to be still in low stock when I clicked on the link.

    Shame it's 14'' - really hoping to see a decent deal on a 15.6'' laptop.

  • +1

    Worth pointing out, for those into music production, by mid-2025 Microsoft are bringing native ASIO drivers to the Windows on ARM first, followed by x86 Windows. That is a pretty significant change for Windows overall, but the fact that they are prioritising Windows on ARM may say something about how serious MS are about ARM. Also, RME and few other vendors have released Windows ARM drivers for their audio interfaces. For what it's worth, I love my Snapdragon laptop.

    • That's pretty cool. Probably won't see the big DAWs or VSTs supporting ARM on Windows anytime soon though.

      • +1

        Yes. Reason, Reaper, Nuendo and Cubase only so far. Not holding my breath for Ableton or Bitwig.

  • I hear the snapdragon chips are still a bit wonky for a number of applications including popular ones like Adobe and games as well. According to Linus review

    • -1

      Linus is a sellout, apparently paid my nvidia, Intel.

      • Yeah LTT has gone downhill quite some time ago. The only thing I watch or listen to is TechLinked, mainly for Riley's humorous take on stuff, the rest not so much.

      • Irrelevant as ltt shat on the arm laptops for compatibility

  • No 5G

  • +2

    Mine arrived today and I've been pleasantly surprised by the performance. I will probably run a clean Windows install later this week. Still, I'm just waiting for a USB-C to ethernet adaptor as some SD laptops require an ethernet connection to complete the Windows installation.

    But so far almost everything I've downloaded has been native ARM64 other than Visual Studio 2019 (I keep an earlier version around for some projects). And even that started up fine.

    • Iv'e been trying to return it as its the lowest X-Plus processor which is the lower range anyways. I thought there was only the one model in the X-Plus range. If the performance is good I might just keep it.

      • I've been using my daily since Sunday mainly for Chrome, VS Code, Visual Studio 2022 (VS22 loads in 2 sec for the first use), and some emulation gaming and it's been excellent. It's quiet, and cool (as in the fan hardly kicks in), and the battery life is exceptional. 8 cores seem fine, but now that this "experiment" has been a winner, I'll be looking to get another SD Windows laptop in the future, this time I will go for an an X Elite.

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