ASUS Dual Radeon RX 7800 XT OC Edition 16GB Graphics Card $671 Delivered ($0 C&C) + Surcharge @ Centre Com

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not quite ATL ($629) but hey not a bad deal for those needing something/looking to upgrade?

Surcharges: 0% for bank deposit, Afterpay & Zip Money. 1.2% for VISA / MasterCard & PayPal. 2.2% for AmEx.

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Would maybe hold off until 50 series releases and hope (big gamble I know) that prices go down elsewhere?

It's crazy how expensive things are pc wise nowadays

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  • +12

    Im holding for the 9070 XT, but I will cry if it’s priced more than the current price of a 7900XTX and a worse value proposition than their entire last gen product stack.

    • +15

      It's AMD .. expect that and be surprised if it doesn't happen not the other way around… Lol AMD Radeon division never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Lol

    • +2

      For me, it’s a waiting game of either Nvidia’s feature parity between Linux and Windows, or RDNA 4’s value proposition.
      If Nvidia ensures both Linux and Windows OSs get the same features at about the same quality, then they can obliterate AMD once SteamOS actually ships.
      Although hopefully by then, AMD will actually have some decent options that don’t have to be constantly discounted to have a chance in competing.

    • +1

      If you can get a 7900XTX for around 1-1.2k on FB or gumtree etc way better going that. 9070XT is just going to be between 7900GRE and 7900XT so meh its basically a 6900XT /6950XT but with better ray tracing aka meh. For reference im not an amd hater I have 2x 7900XTX's and an AMD Epyc and Ryzen cpu so if anything a fan, but with the rumored $750USD quite frankly its a joke. Like others have said AMD never misses and opportunity to miss an opportunity lol and this is after they delayed the launch also "we are focusing on marketshare" yeah……how to lose it

      • Where did you get the $750 rumour? Latest expectations I am aware of are lower.

          • @RBZ10: https://x.com/AzorFrank/status/1884016064360767598

            • Chief Architect of Gaming Solutions AMD.
            • @A-mak: When did I say $899 lol, its around $750 which is still crazy as that'll be around 1000-1100 AUD here and as I stated above 6900XT-6950XT-7900GRE-7900XT performance. May as well get any of those cards for cheaper, its not going to be powerful enough to ray trace same goes for 5070Ti unless its 1080p. Both nvidia and amd have passed the buck this gen….

              Also they bricked it at CES once nvidia announced there line up and pricing surprise surprise, retailers dont get stock 3 months ahead of time, given apparently launching in March 27th.

    • They'll price it $50usd less than the 50xx NVIDIA card that it "just" beats in raster.

      I hope I'm wrong though!

      Yet another chance for them to pick up a little market share in mid-tier.

  • +1

    This price kills my idea of building a meme PC to replace my 7700K system. 7700X+7700XT lol

    • +12

      I can buy it and resell it to you for $770 if that helps?

      • +1

        I'll do one better and sell it to OP for $7700

  • +6

    Im still pleasantly surprised how my 6800xt holds up compared to this and had it for over 2 years now.

    • +1

      even my 6800 still holds up well performance wise, if it wasn't for it being in a slightly dodgy/unreliable state after some overheating incidents I would be skipping this gen entirely.

    • The $550 6800xt from that mining reseller from years ago still holding strong

      • There was an xt? I got the non xt one

        • Yeah there were several models more expensive ones around 600, I just got the cheapest one.

  • -1

    can i run deepseek on this ?

    • +1

      Yes should be fine but NVIDIA usually get better tokens per second, i am running deepseek on a 6900XT and its quite performant

      • you need to caveat that with you can run the small models on that. anything medium size or above you still need datacentre grade GPU's.

        • Not really deepseek 7b is edit: 4.7Gb

          • @Draco: Deepseek it’s available in a number of sizes. The 4.7Gb is really good for a local model, it’s 7b with 4 bit quantisation. The model that is getting a lot of hype and is rivalling open AI is 671b.

            • @Joshman5k: Disagree, most discussion is actually around running deepseek on consumer grade hardware <16Gb so 7b to 14b from my experience running the 14b model its excellent on this hardware which is answering the original question.

  • +3

    The 1080 is hanging on by the skin of its teeth, not sure it will last until the 9070xt or 5070ti… Goodness gracious me…

    • Some newer games requiring specific mesh shader versions is finally phasing out older graphics cards unfortunately. Ff7 rebirth for example won't run on 10*0 series! Some modification can be done on 1650/1660 models though.

      My brother has my hand me down 1070 and can't play rebirth on PC lol.

      I couldddd hand me down my 3060 Ti and buy myself a 5070 though…. Hehehehe

      • The upcoming Doom Dark Ages will require RTX cards, and Indy already does. The studios are trying to save Dev time as they rely on scene lighting features in game engines that simplify lighting setup. But those features require RT HW (it is not exactly ray tracing though)

        • Doom Dark Ages will be a day 1 purchase for me. Keeeeeennnn. I rarely rarely re-play FPS games over and over, but Doom Eternal had me replay the campaign multiple times. I could still never do Ultra Nightmare though, I die to silly stuff lol.

    • 4060ti 16GB second hand would be worth the jump for you I reckon

  • No more not even ATL 40 Series or 7000 Series!

  • +2

    This is basically a 4070, with 4GB more VRAM, but without ray tracing and DLSS, for hundreds of dollars less than a 4070. Good deal IMO.

    • +2

      This card can do ray tracing

      • +6

        That is like saying a camel could compete at le mans. even Nvidia cards suck at ray tracing in anything but the very top end.

      • +1

        Maybe at mid-tier quality settings, but most of the time if you turn on ray tracing at less than Ultra, you're not getting much of a visual upgrade. It's more of a change in art style than a noticeable improvement. And unfortunately running raytracing at ultra settings is not a strength for this card.

        Hardware Unboxed released a great video a few months ago where you can look at side-by-side comparisons of video modes for heaps of games. Really eye-opening to see how many compromises are made for the the medium-quality raytracing settings .

    • -1

      Not even close

      The AMD Defence Force on OzB have been gone radio silent this month as the failures of AMD and RDNA 3 are clear as day

      DLSS 4 upscaling with the new Transformer model = all RTX 40/30/20 series cards got a real upgrade for free

      RDNA 4 RX 9070 XT was supposed to have been announced last week

      Retailers already have the new cards but AMD farked up the pricing after Jacket Man announced the 5070 for USD $550

      RDNA 4 now delayed 2 months till March because AMD want to see the 5070 benchmarks before doing their typical NVIDIA less 10% price anchoring

      And worst of all, FSR 4's new "AI upscaling" is not supported on RDNA 3's fake AI cores - not this 7800 XT, not the AUD $1.1K 7900 XT and not even the AUD $1.4K 7900 XTX

      And for the "upscaling doesn't matter" bandwagoners, if that was true, AMD wouldn't have invested their very limited software development resources into training the models for FSR 4

      AMD didn't even think AI upscaling was required until recently - they were dragged kicking and screaming by Sony to implement the feature for the PS5 Pro

      • +1

        My desktop has a 6700XT, while my laptop has a RTX 4070, the laptops RTX 4070 is obviously a low slower than the desktop 4070, but due to DLSS, I only use my laptop now. DLSS 4 looks much better in CP77.

        How do you know about the relationship between AMD and Sony, some insider knowledge, or just making shit up?

        • -1

          How do you know about the relationship between AMD and Sony, some insider knowledge, or just making shit up?

          Because unlike AMD, Sony has a proper roadmap that allows Mark Cerny, PS5 Hardware Boss to make these types of statements:

          We have begun a deeper collaboration with AMD…
          The first goal is a more ideal architecture for machine learning…
          In going after this we're combining the lessons AMD has learned from its multi-generation RDNA road map and SIE has learned from the custom work in PS5 Pro

          "…and SIE (Sony Interactive Entertainment) has learned from the custom work in PS5 Pro"

          =

          "… we finally found out RDNA 3's AI capabilities were fake when trying to develop the PSSR upscaler. So we had to get AMD to cobble parts of the RDNA 4 AI design into the PS5 Pro's RDNA 3 APU before we could get PSSR to work"

          • +1

            @Look Up: I find it odd that Sony inform us that they developed PSSR internally yet allow AMD and Sony's competitors like Microsoft to use that technology. You'd think since Sony created it, that they would be the only ones to use it. AMD released their first Inference product in 2017, their first AI product in 2020, CPUs with AI in early 2023, worlds fastest AI accelerator in late 2023, but I guess that was due to Sony AMD has AI hardware in their GPUs.

            • +1

              @FabMan: Microsoft have nothing to do with this

              TLDR, the Radeon department have had NFI for years and NVIDIA are doing to AMD in GPU's what AMD are doing to Intel in CPU's

              RDNA 4 is the final version of RDNA

              AMD will then combine RDNA 4 with CDNA as used in the AI products you listed to create "UDNA"

              UDNA = unified compute, something NVIDIA did almost 20 years ago with CUDA

              Chances of a Radeon "UDNA" card matching a RTX 6080 or 7080, let alone 6090 or 7090 = close to zero

              • +1

                @Look Up: "Microsoft have nothing to do with this"
                No they don't, but AMD own the hardware that powers PSSR tech and AMD can sell the hardware to anyone including Microsoft, which is why I mentioned them. You'd think Sony would prevent that since they developed PSSR with AMD, but apparently, Sony have the software aspect only, not the hardware. This also means that if PSSR is better than FSR 2 / 3 and considering FSR is open source, you'd think someone else would have a crack at making their own enhanced version running on AMD hardware. My problem is that Sony / Cerny are making big claims, that they motivated AMD, they gave AMD their specialists, they developed PSSR in house, and other claims too. Yet it is on AMD hardware, AMD are releasing their own solutions very soon, AMD have released multiple versions of FSR, AMD have already been releasing AI based products for 8 (5 depending on qualification) years, AMD have been pushing ray tracing for years too, though they are on catch up with NVIDIA of course. I don't think it is Sony that is pushing AMD, despite the claims by Cerny.

                "UDNA = unified compute, something NVIDIA did almost 20 years ago with CUDA"
                This doesn't mean anything by itself. GCN (before RDNA) was really good at compute processing, but it didn't necessarily make for performant graphics as they banked on HBM and it didn't pay off, so AMD turned GCN into CDNA. AMD have had ROCm since 2016 to compete with CUDA, but CUDA was and is already far ahead in capability. I got the Vega 56 at release, and despite have 8 less active CUs, when clocked to the same core clock speeds, it was barely any different in gaming result to Vega 64, about 2-3% if I remember correctly despite having 15% less CUs, that is due to the bandwidth limitation caused by the HBM not being as fast as they predicted when they designed GCN 5. It was so starved, you probably could have had a Vega 48, and it would have only been 8-9% slower than a Vega 64 at the same clocks. When I overclocked my Vega 56, I tried to push the RAM first, because that was the bottleneck. It was well loved for mining when that craze was going on, because the Compute Units were fantastic at computing. I was offered a lot for my Vega 56, I turned it down, foolishly.

                I have no idea how UDNA will turn out, AMD did something amazing with Zen, but AMD have not been able to turn that success into the consumer graphics space yet. I remember the egg on the face of AMD back when they were announcing RDNA, there they were with their new architecture and NVIDIA announces ray tracing and DLSS. AMD's RDNA was not focusing on such techniques, AMD build RDNA to smash conventional rendering techniques, which I would say it does for the $ and core size. A GCN 6 graphics card (CDNA 1) would have probably been better at those advanced techniques than RDNA, but unless they had faster HDM available at reasonable prices, their conventional gaming would have fallen even further behind GeForce. Now they are slapping their old GCN, I mean CDNA 3 architecture, together with RDNA 4 to try and get the best of both of them with UDNA. Reminds me of when Intel slapped Pentium 3 (M) and Pentium 4 (D) together to make the Core CPUs. I'm interested to see how this goes.

      • How's ya 5080 doing? LOL

  • +1

    $671 is not bad for just under 4070 super performance (raster) and 4gb of extra vram.

    Yes it is behind in RT and FSR isn't amazing, but i'm tempted - even just for a year until 50 series prices start to fall

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