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Seagate 20TB Expansion External Hard Drive US$277.64 Delivered (~A$449) @ QuickDealStore Amazon US

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Good price if you're looking for a large hard drive. Works out to about $22.40/TB (or $21.6/TB if you buy two units).

Note: You must buy on Amazon US (not amazon.com.au). Select seller QuickDealStore. Price is US$229 + delivery + GST which is around AUD $449 delivered.

Buy two and save on postage. Do not buy more than two at a time or you'll be slugged import duty as total will exceed AUD $1000.

Good for shucking. You get an Exos or IronWolf (pot luck).

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Comments

  • +1

    That is a good price these days. Anyone know what disk might be in them?

    • +15

      You get an Exos or IronWolf (pot luck).

    • +8

      i imagine they'd be much cheaper if the exchange rate wasn't so bad at the moment

    • +1

      Also want to know… been waiting for Exos 20tb deal for my NAS. Not sure if I can buy this and just take the HDD out.

      • Considering the same, but not sure about the interface inside.

        • +1

          It's literally an Exos or Ironwolf with a usb /power adapter attached so you'll be good. Crack the case open and away you go

  • Total damage with gst and shipping $461

    • +1

      Pay in USD if your credit card allows fee free transactions for non AUD purchases.

  • +1

    Shuck-able?

  • +2

    it's an import. what is the warranty? i'd be concerned about that

    • Esp not sold by amazon US

      • Not just that, it's actually sold by 3rd party seller, not Amazon US themselves.

    • Amazon offer 30-day free international returns (they pay for shipping).

      Seller also offer 30-day refund/replacement.

      After that, you have to deal with Seagate directly. (I think you have to pay for shipping - but not sure).

      • +4

        https://www.seagate.com/au/en/support/warranty-and-replaceme…

        Does Seagate provide international warranty?-
        Products purchased from distributors but returned outside of the distributors’ sales territory, may not be eligible for warranty services.

        • +2

          No, they most certainly don't.

      • +1

        Seagate Australia will only provide warranty for HDD's sold locally.

  • Does anyone have experience with East Digital server pulls?

    Drive prices are a bit crazy these days but ED have 18tb WD pulls for $299 that are tempting as they sell factory rectified exos 18tb for $400, and $490 for new… this time last year it was $290 for new.

    • +1

      I’ve bought a few and have had no issues so far.

    • +7

      The FR 18TB drives have recently jumped in price. Around 3 months ago I paid $300ish a piece. Got 20 and so far 5 have failed in the first 1000 hours.

      They are accepting the returns and paying for return shipping, but you do need to consistently remind them to take the next step of the RMA process or it just won’t happen.

      • That failure rate is way too high for FR drives (or for any "used" drive). I assume it's Seagate 18TB, either Exos or IronWolf FR.

        I had two Seagate FR drives (8TB, SMR drives, actual RMA from Seagate warranty) running 24/7 with >33000h on the clock. No issue.

        What equipment are you running? A server/SAN chassis or PC tower? Just want to figure out the possible cause.

        • What's the deal with 0 hour FR drives? Are they really new? Or are they hacked in some way to fake the hours?

          • @Save Medicare: You can check comments on old deals on OzB. Essentially they’re drives RMAed to Seagate via numerous channels (returns, made faulty, recycled, etc.), either refurbished via firmware or both firmware and hardware to meet their standards of a “know good” part, finally either used as a warranty replacement or sold to end users (usually industrial or distributors).

        • You’re not wrong!

          They are Exos bought from East Digital. Put into a proper server chassis in an AC cooled environment.

          NFI what’s killed them but the SMART started to fail in the first 1000 hours where the most likely cause of failure was “old age”. I get they’re not new drives but damn they should have been OK!

          • @wellzi: Ouch… I hope you didn’t suffer data loss or significant downtime because of that.

            • @xmagic: Nah, just a mad inconvenience so far. :)

    • +3

      i was interested in them a while back. i also looked at the cheap "renewed" drives on amazon, but the reviews say the drives already have 2-3 years of run time on them. i ended up buying a pair of HC550s locally from umart so i get a 5 year warranty. cost a bit more but i don't want to be stuffing around if they fail.

      there were also slighly cheaper new HC550s from international sellers on amazon but they are OEM drives with no manufacturer warranty. you need to be careful

    • Their cheapest 18TB FR is currently sold out ($305 = $16.94/TB)

      But the server pull you mentioned, the price is so good that is worth considering given East Digital's reputation in OzB.

    • +3

      I have 4 x 16TB Exos from EastDigital in my Synology NAS, and they're working great. (purchased in July). Fast delivery from Sydney and (very) well packaged.

    • +1

      I've just bought 8x20TB 20Tb EXOS Factory Refurb 0 hours - hoping that I don't have any issues with them - they are in transit, but hopefully will have them before next weekend. They come with a 3yr warranty from seller, so I'm not too concerned.

    • +2

      I bought one 18TB WD HC550 server pull and it was DOA. I returned it - no reimbursement of postage by ED. Also the return process was slow. But up to you if the price makes it worth it.

    • +1

      I have 2 in my server right now, about 1 year into use and they are performing very well.

      I bought 2x 18tb for $554 in a deal they had. These were the stated 'new' drives, not their 'recert'.

      At the time I was unsure about them so only bought two, if they do a deal again will buy 4 more.

      • That's a great deal, specially if new.

    • Always worth checking https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q3-… for reliability when purchasing a refurb HDD

  • +1

    Dollar is not doing well…

    • -2

      You mean the Peso..

      • -1

        *South Pacific Peso

    • Don’t worry, the news keeps reporting that interest rate cuts could be coming as soon as February. Nothing like a rate cut to give the ol’ dollar a kick.

      • Lol, they literally can't with the Aud this low.

  • +14

    In 2015, I thought in year 2025 we would have 100TB Hard Drives for $150. And some new type of storage using mega laser flux capacitor hard drives with 500TB storage for $500. Here we are in 2025 with 20TB for $500. Also no hoverboards still.

    • I blame Google…. (and also the Slow Mo Guys 😂). They hog all the drives in their insane data centres all around the world. More demand, more $$’s

    • +3

      Dear science, cheers for the iPods
      White goods, yeah, thank you for the cyborgs
      Top work on the light bulb
      That was quite cool, but where's my hoverboard?

      Yeah, I mean I know you've been busy
      But no hoverboards just seems a bit piss-weak.
      - Seth Sentry - Dear Science

    • +1

      What's worse, we have hoverboards but they roll…

  • +1

    Wow. Same price and size they were five years ago. Moores law is dead I guess.

    • There wasn't crypto mining when Moores is around.

      • Why do you need hard drives for crypto mining?

        • +3

          This is one example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chia_(cryptocurrency)#:~:text=Chia%20is%20a%20cryptocurrency%20where,work%20cryptocurrencies%20such%20as%20Bitcoin.

          There are few others around.

    • True. It's been dead for a while, it seems hdd technology has probably reached its limits. On the other hand, ssd drives have been coming down quite a bit.

      • +11

        SSDs were coming down, but only until Samsung and Hynix et al. colluded to bring the prices back up; I'm still kicking myself for not jumping on that mwave deal on the Lexar NM790 4TB drives for ~$230 just over a year ago. And setting aside the other anti-consumer practices the cartel are engaging in (where they eg. launch drives with TLC NAND and then swap to QLC after receiving positive reviews for a particular drive) capacities have also stalled in the consumer space, and anything above 4TB isn't really competitively priced; Solidigm are already making 64TB SSDs at the moment, but they'll set you back the cost of a new luxury car, and that's fair enough because it's a captive market and a tax deductible expense for the data centres purchasing them but pretty much the only reason we cant walk out and buy an 8TB drive for less than $100/TB today is because of price fixing activity. Although the sweet spot for buying HDDs is at about 16~20TB, and their growth in max capacity is slower, the top end of 28TB drives etc. are at least relatively affordable compared to the largest SSDs. Also HDDs won't eat all your PCIe lanes, which for SSDs becomes a massive problem if your workload requires redundancy given than neither Intel nor AMD are interested in making low-powered CPUs with lots of expandability- granted the same is true for SATA, and even all those N100 NAS boards you see on AliExpress etc. rely on dodgy jmicron SATA multiplexers.
        tl;dr version is it really sucks to be a data hoarder at the moment, but especially an Australian one with our crappy dollar and energy/everything prices.

        • Even if your comment is popular, my brain cant compute, TLTR

        • +1

          True, SSD were crashing in 2023. 4TB for $250.

  • +3

    Does this HD require external power source? If so, is the power plug in US format meaning we'd need to buy a converter for the Aus power plug?

    • +6

      Seagate Expansion hard drives usually come with a universal power adapter with multiple plugs for different countries eg. see this unboxing video: https://youtu.be/e_6xuAbZ-f4?t=405

  • My experience with Seagate in the 3GB/4GB external drive era was so bad I won't touch them even today. I've only had a couple of WD drives die early. I know people will say they've had the opposite experience but the stats on Backblaze back my views last time I looked. 20TB is a lot of data to lose. Hope you have a good backup strategy.

      • +3

        Nope. Speak to anyone that shoots video or does sports/motorsports photography. Then there's people that mess with all kinds of large datasets, software dev etc. which may be less common but it's legitimate. Your lack of ability to imagine that people have legitimate hobbies doesn't mean they don't exist and your desire to shuffle everyone into a mundane boring life is disturbing..Just because you may use your hard drive to download pr0n, tun3z, m00fiez and l33t gam3z doesn't mean that's true for everyone. Not to say that misuse isn't also common, but I imagine people like you passing laws to restrict access to large drives and non-streaming media players because you can't imagine that people might actually do anything interesting or useful.

        Also in other countries a single personal backup of media you own is legal. In Australia you can backup software but not video/audio media.

        • -8

          'Just because you may use your hard drive to download pr0n, tun3z, m00fiez and l33t gam3z doesn't mean that's true for everyone.' Is this person you and you are just projecting?

          • +2

            @Dollar Dreamer: Dude I just told you I have other uses for my drives. You are the one that said a family shouldn't need more than 2TB. So who's projecting? Well I guess that's better than 640K. Blame modern bloat.

              • +4

                @Dollar Dreamer: So you saw my reply and thought "Let's add some casual racism to the mix!"? There was no misunderstanding. The first line of your first response isn't ambiguous. Go backup your 2TB or something and stop wasting everyone's time.

                • -3

                  @syousef: Dude, the racism card? Really? Edit: Oh wait, I just saw your username and can understand why people thought my reply was 'racist'. Errrm, it wasn't, I didn't even look at your username when replying. Apologies in advance if that is how it came across.

              • @Dollar Dreamer: So casual racism is your bag ?

      • +3

        How many households are average ? Everyone has some exceptions or differences. Photography hobbies|Video editing. Perhaps they are IT people and are running some sort of thing that generates lots of data.

        • -4

          I would say 500Gb per person in documents, photos and videos. Average or 2TB for a family of 4. Any more than that then it would be outside that.

      • +2

        Three years ago, the iPhone began offering 1TB models. An iPhone 16 capturing photos in ProRAW uses 50-75MB per image. Most people with modern phones capture video in 4K. Apps consume more space than ever before.

        Just because you have the digital footprint of someone from 2007 doesn’t mean others do as well.

      • +1

        2.2 kids will have around 2TB at most of important files

        Lol this is one of the stupidest things I've ever read - how the hell did you come up with that statistic 😂

  • +1

    Would it be cheaper to buy used drives on ebay and marketplace or is that waay too risky to compensate?b Eg loss of data, data corruption etc..

  • +1

    Showing as A$542 after shipping, gst and some exchange rate guarantee by Amazon :O

  • Now US$279 plus shipping rather than US$229, so ends up as A$527.

  • hey can the "estimated gst" be claimed back if taking this overseas? Amazon charged me US$25.50 in GST, did i do something wrong? my total cost was US $280.53

  • +1

    anyone bought these ?
    Are they actually new inside or some reused / reset stufff ?

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