Tourniquet Recommendation for EDC

Ham Dragon on 11/01/2025 - 19:29

Saw an interesting article about the police officer who was shot in Brisbane yesterday likely had his life saved by his colleague's personal (not standard issue) tourniquet. It got me thinking as a motorcyclist I should probably keep one of those in my jacket or the Ventura bag on the back for an almost worst case scenario.

It's a fairly straight forward principle but is there any particular features I should look out for? This RapidStop brand one can be used one handed & with only gross motor skills, anyone had experience with those? Is there a better option?

Cheers in advance!

Health & Beauty Tourniquet

Comments

  • MS Paint on 11/01/2025 - 19:47

    @Jimothy Wongingtons - you have a comprehensive EDC. Do you have a tourniquet?

    • Jimothy Wongingtons on 11/01/2025 - 21:39
      +2

      No…never even crossed my mind tbh

      Here I am now considering if I should also add a leatherman raptor rescue to my kit as well

      1. Because I’m a major leatherman fan

      2. Because it’s always good to be prepared…

      Will need to get cargo shorts for my cargo shorts thpugh

      • Sammy2000 on 11/01/2025 - 22:02
        +1

        It comes with a holster!

      • elgrande on 12/01/2025 - 12:19

        Leatherman fan, that explains alot.. 🤣

  • racer1234 on 11/01/2025 - 20:01
    +3

    If you are thinking being prepared for major trauma then consider an israeli bandage as well.

    • apsilon on 12/01/2025 - 06:19

      Cheap and proven.

  • sumyungguy on 11/01/2025 - 20:24
    +2

    There's a PSA/discussion over on r/motorcycles on this very topic. Add a CAT G7 & Leatherman Raptor Rescue to your EDC

    • Ham Dragon on 11/01/2025 - 20:38

      Cheers mate, will take a look.

    • Shoocat on 11/01/2025 - 20:57
      +1

      Plus one for the CAT G7. The bee's knees and really easy to use one handed. You don't want to cheap out on a tourniquet given snapping it would be potentially life-ending.

      • Ham Dragon on 11/01/2025 - 21:11
        +1

        Agreed, this is one purchase the spirit of Ozbargain can be avoided.

  • Protractor on 11/01/2025 - 20:29
    -1

    Do or refresh your senior first aid cert and get info and equipment at the same time. Cops not having a trauma FAK onboard is the height of stupidity. Blame their union.Always campaigning for more stuff, but not this? Dumb

    • Ham Dragon on 11/01/2025 - 20:41

      QPS have station issue kits which ordinarily remain in the vehicle (as was the case in this incident), and, according to the source quoted in the article, there was insufficient time to retrieve the kit from the vehicle and apply it, it was just good luck the bloke had his own one on him. The QPU have been asking for personal issue tactical first aid kits but it's the same story from the COP every time >> "we'll consider it".

      • Protractor on 11/01/2025 - 21:34
        -4

        Police look like a walking tackle shop already.Pretty soon they'll need back pack rockets to move around. No situation can be instant, nor can a person carry everything they need. My guess is half the force would whinge about being forced to carry a tourniquet for the above reasons.Just remember personal issue anything requires an individual to maintain,top up,update etc. The QPU would then demand more money,training,time etc. Where does it all end?

  • Cameronol on 11/01/2025 - 21:17
    +2

    I EDC a SOFTT-Wide
    https://tacmedaustralia.com.au/products/sof-tactical-tourniq…

    I'd only purchase something from the list released by the Committee on Tactical Combat Casualty Care (CoTCCC):
    Recommended Devices & Adjuncts
    https://books.allogy.com/web/tenant/8/books/a30c619d-7270-4b…

    And only purchase legitimate and branded tourniquets.. not a 'styled' tourniquet, as they are not tested.

  • pegaxs on 12/01/2025 - 00:16

    Well, this has made me rethink my EDC… I only just realised that I have absolutely no med gear in my EDC kit. I could literally rebuild a car and take on an army on ninjas and cut my way out of a forest… but getting hurt, I never thought about it till now. Even my motorcycle kit has (fropanity) all in it like this. A few bandages and that is about it. The kit I have in my car I could set up a small scale hospital…

    Maybe we need a thread on what items make an awesome EDC med type kit or any other types of kits.

    • mapax on 12/01/2025 - 07:47

      Maybe we need a thread on what items make an awesome EDC med type kit

      It would probably just fill up with comments by smug and ignorant office types who have never been exposed to anything more than a paper cut.

      If you don’t have one already, add an amputated parts bag to your first aid kit.

      • pegaxs on 12/01/2025 - 09:27

        amputated parts bag to your first aid kit.

        Ill have to look that up… but not gonna lie, at the moment it sounds like just a collection of different sized ziploc baggies from finger up to leg sized bags.

        • mapax on 12/01/2025 - 10:56

          just a collection of different sized ziploc baggies

          Pretty much. The ones we have at work are extra thick, but aside from that pretty much the same.

          • pegaxs on 12/01/2025 - 11:24

            @mapax: I already pack my EDC in those AliExpress vacuum bags and vac them down to save space, so I could use the vac bags as "parts bags" in a pinch. Although I dont think I would get a leg or an arm in one, but fingers and hands, absolutely.

            • mapax on 12/01/2025 - 11:35

              @pegaxs: If it keeps the body part clean and dry when submerged in cold water it should be fine.

      • elgrande on 12/01/2025 - 12:22
        +1

        smug and ignorant office types who have never been exposed to anything more than a paper cut

        Thats not true, many of us have also experienced carpet burn.

        • mapax on 12/01/2025 - 12:49
          +1

          Thoughts and prayers

  • shaybisc on 12/01/2025 - 12:11

    "a 2017 study on law enforcement tourniquet use published in Prehospital Disaster Medicine showed that improvised tourniquets failed six out of seven times."

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/medical-professionals/trauma/news…

    • pegaxs on 12/01/2025 - 18:15

      So, based on that, we shouldn't do anything? Just let people bleed out and say "Well, you only had a 1 in 7 chance anyway"?

      You forgot to add the context part;

      Despite this low success rate, Dr. Sztajnkrycer says improvised tourniquet use is worth learning, as it can save lives.

      Some treatment is better than no treatment. If my choice was to run a 1:7 of it working, or giving up because 6:7 times it doesn't work, I can tell you now, I like those 1:7 odds.

      I was always taught to not use tourniquets when I was doing first aid, and that "pressure bandages" were a better method of controlling severe blood loss, but I safely say now, I would 100% apply a tourniquet as an initial stop gap if I had nothing else to apply or to stop the initial injury from bleeding while I applied a pressure bandage.

      While any tourniquet may not be the absolute "best" application, it's certainly better than the alternative of doing nothing because the Mayo clinic said it doesn't work 6:7 times.

    • mapax on 12/01/2025 - 18:39

      improvised tourniquets

      Does it say anything about commercially produced tourniquets or only improvised ones?

  • racer1234 on 26/02/2025 - 19:08
    +1

    The premier announced yesterday that they are going to issue kits to 12500 officers. Did anyone else notice the price though. 5.4 million. Works out to over $400 per kit when st johns sell what sounds like an equivalent kit for just under $100. Why the huge mark up?

    • Sammy2000 on 27/02/2025 - 07:28

      It's the government. They have companies offer them quotes and deals and they pick their mates company to produce them.

    • Ham Dragon on 27/02/2025 - 11:18

      That'll be the total acquisition cost, including storage & distribution, and education / training materials within the organisation. Not saying it's cheap but simply dividing the cost by the number of kits oversimplifies it.

      • racer1234 on 27/02/2025 - 12:48

        I agree it is an oversimplification but the costs are still out of hand and we pay for this with our taxes. They are already trained to use the tactical first aid kit they carry in the car so what training is required? Very litttle. It is just annoying that people accept that it is a goverment job so has to cost x amount more than the retail price. The public pays for this in less funding available for other projects.

        • Ham Dragon on 27/02/2025 - 13:02

          In my (limited) experience doing some procurement for state government approved suppliers generally have to agree to particular terms. This varies by what it is you're procuring but take office equipment as an example. We were getting billed 30-40% more for things like chairs and adjustable height desks but the supplier provided onsite repairs or replacement of anything that failed for 3 years.

          • racer1234 on 27/02/2025 - 13:11

            @Ham Dragon: Fair enough. Could also be they are providing replacements over the 5 year term. Some of the items will only have a year or two life to be sterile.

            • Ham Dragon on 27/02/2025 - 13:22

              @racer1234: I couldn't say for certain, I doubt it with sterile medical supplies or single use items like tourniquets.

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