Can You Put a Recessed PowerPoint in Single Brick Wall

For a new house build I want to have a recessed single power port for a tv to mount a tv. The electrician didn’t seem to like that idea, is there any problem with doing this job?

I noticed in ces this year Samsung and lg both have a new wireless box that sends all the hdmi, aerial, Ethernet wirelessly to the tv. So you would just need a PowerPoint in the middle of the wall and some at the bottom for accessories consoles etc. So seems like that’s what the future of tvs might be.

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  • +2

    Several ways it can be done with different types of recessed wall boxes on the market.

    Lazy sparkie I think

    • Can you get one only slightly recessed? As that should be fine if you get the flat plug cable

      • There's a whole range of different boxes including ones with gpos already prefab in to just the box etc. Bunnings, Rexel etc all stock them. There's even AV and HDMI included ones, bearing in mind that they cant be located on the same socket panel as a gpo.

        Id get another quote. I had mine chased, not recessed, as Ive got double brick, but it's definitely achievable. Just need the right electrician with the right mindset

        • What is a chased powerpoint?

          • @ATTS: They cut recess into double brick to run cables down and plaster over it. That's the basics. Theres some good YT vids on it but its a pro job only really

            • @Benoffie: Thanks i fjnd these things intriguing thats why

              Any links on yt just for watching?

              • @ATTS: This bloke is in UK so kinda similar to us

                https://youtu.be/0D_EGvEqElE?si=0SIc5wf4NMKtFElv

                I dont care what anyone says, this isnt a DIY area. Too many things to go wrong, too many compliance issues and a skilled operator can do it relatively clean and quick (has been my experience)

  • Can be done for sure. I know someone who had it done on a new build recently.

    • Cheers good to know

  • Possible… for enough money lol

  • another option == running those 3 cables (HDMI + aerial + ethernet) down the grout between bricks.
    as an aesthetic POV think would look better … RATHER than, cutting into the brick + a box protruding out (which then means TV cabinet not sitting flush with wall).

    2 of those cables can purchase in a "slimline design" …
    but HDMI == hard one +++ with new standards just being released.

    this TV …
    a.) how old?
    b.) what is the intended use?
    c.) gaming?
    d.) 4K netflix/YT streaming?

    IRT … wireless … yeah/NAH.
    1.) cost significantly higher upfront.
    2.) bandwidth issues.

    • If it’s recessed the TV could sit flush over it?

      I haven’t even bought a tv it’s for a new home build, so trying to future proof it. I think it’s against electrical standards to run the power cable through a conduit though.

      I doubt I will notice any bandwidth issues, they are including them with a lot of standard models so I don’t think it will be expensive

  • Something like this would work. Needs to be chased in. How much clearance do you have from the back of the tv to the wall?

    https://www.bunnings.com.au/repelec-recessed-white-single-ga…

  • Someone can't just remove a few bricks? Or will the wall fall down.

  • I noticed in ces this year Samsung and lg both have a new wireless box that sends all the hdmi, aerial, Ethernet wirelessly to the tv.

    Yeah, its called WiFi.

  • +1

    Is fhe wall already built?

  • Internal or external wall? What’s behind the single brick? Standard bricks? How deep is the wall?

    Is there enough depth for both the recessed fitting and running the electricals to the fitting, without opening up to the other side of the wall?

    What reason did the sparky provide for not “seeming to like that idea”?

    • Yeah i don't understand "single brick wall". You mean brick veneer, so it has timber/plasterboard inside…? I don't see why the sparky won't want to do that, other than it might mean a bit more effort/time (which you'll be paying for)

      • I think they mean single layer of bricks on the exterior with internal plasterboard walls. As opposed to double-brick. Maybe worth OP clarifying because people seem confused about this.

        • Yes, my house is single brick on the outside and plasterboard inside. I got them to install a flush PowerPoint and these with some drawstrings at the top and bottom for running cables and this was done without any issues as there was enough gap

          https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-bull-nose-brush-wall-plate_…

          • @stickingly: "single brick wall"
            I thought OP would be referring to the internal walls of a double brick house, otherwise if it were brick veneer what possible reason would a sparky have for not doing it?
            we live in a double brick on slab house, most of the internal walls are single brick. we recently contemplated chasing power and aerial up a rendered single brick internal wall to recess GPO and aerial plug but ended up only chasing along the floor (had new carpet installed so it was the best time to address it) and fitting GPO and aerial points on skirting board
            .

            • @Nugs: Yeah that’s what I meant internal wall of a double brick house sorry about that

      • +1

        Single brick means just a plain brick wall, typically with plaster rendering. There is no plasterboard and no gap to easily drop new cables, to add cables you have to chase a channel into the wall and then re-plaster over the top.

        It's commonly used for internal walls in WA, external walls are typically double brick (two brick walls with a gap between them)

  • If the plaster is already in-situ, noggings may the issue (horizontal timber between the uprights - https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/house-frame-8472261.jpg). If yet to be lined, it's just a matter of "where do you want it" ; drill the nogging and run the wire. Retrofitting may involve some Gyprock removal. Cost go up, but it should not be a difficult job.

    In my experience, plasterers charge by the day (so, around $450-500). If you are handy, patching plaster is not that hard. There are plenty of DIY instructions on YouTube. Plaster, tools and Gyprock is not terribly expensive.

  • that's BS. I had a recessed Clipsal powerpoint installed behind my tv about 5 years ago. Ask your electrician exactly what their problem is.

    • I reckon thw lroblem is the sparky doesnt want to so said it cant be done rather than can be done but more work.

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