PS3: God Of War: Ascension Beta Keys [FREE]

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  ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 00:32

  -2

  Do you usually have to pay for the beta keys?

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    Tal_Shiar on 22/12/2012 - 00:36

    theyre already getting enough from my EB pre order!

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    Moots on 22/12/2012 - 00:40

    -2

    Do you usually have to give sarcasm to every post?

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      ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 00:44

      -2

      That wasn't sarcasm. I was merely attempting to lead you through some reasoning, to my conclusion that this isn't really a deal, since it isn't a paid product.
      I can only assume that you already guessed that, though, judging from the attitude and the neg you threw my way. No attempt at mature discussion?
      And FYI, that neg wasn't from me.

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        Moots on 22/12/2012 - 00:53

        -4

        Bla bla.

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        ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 00:55

        +1

        Well that sounds about right.

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        ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 01:13

        it is actually a deal, i wanted to get into the GOW ascension beta but IGN only provided the beta keys to PREMIUM users, so people who subscribe and pay a monthly fee to them, so yea this is a bargain and im downloading the game as we speak.

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        ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 01:17

        If you would notice in the URL, this is still only available to Prime users, making this even less of a bargain and more of an illegitimate workaround.

        In any case, the keys are not available exclusively through IGN; they can be found for free during other giveaways. Therefore, regardless of the method of obtaining it, the key itself is always free.

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        ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 01:19

        you need to pay a monthly fee to be a PRIME member, and if you can get the beta key for free rather then be a PRIME member i think this is a bargain….

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        ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 01:26

        Did you even read my previous comment? These keys are available for free during other giveaways. The standard price for this key is $0, and should be judged accordingly. You're basically saying this is a good deal because you can now get it from one particular place (IGN) at RRP ($0), even though other vendors have it at RRP by default.

        What you have also chosen to disregard, is that this is still intended for Prime members - hence the '/prime/promo' in the URL.

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        ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 01:30

        dude do everyone have a chance of obtaining the key in those other giveaways? if this is the value in which u say it is…being $0….then why the heck would other website call it a giveaway if something for $0 can be obtained accordingly for the fee of $0. This is a deal because to obtain one there is usually always a catch…or a luck in obtaining it in a giveaway…….

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        ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 01:35

        THE BETA HAS ENDED, THE KEYS ARE STILL BEING GENERATED, GET IN QUICK AS WE HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THIS WILL BE PATCHED!

        If that isn't the very definition of a catch, I don't know what is. You're assuming that IGN are giving away an unlimited amount of keys, merely because they aren't showing an amount… and you would be wrong. They would have been allocated a finite amount of keys to give to their Prime users, and the OP himself recognises that there is ambiguity in the 'deal' conditions.

        The other 'catch': this is still intended for Prime users only. Where's that OzBargain Ethics forum post when you need it.

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        ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 01:40

        so going from your judgment, then we should all ban the FREE SAMPLE posts because they are giving away free samples, and free samples are worth $0? I think both of these concepts are similar…you're getting a FREE SAMPLE…or in this case a FREE BETA…

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        ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 01:42

        so first you had a problem with the price of it being $0 so it shouldnt be posted here on ozbargain, and now you have a problem with its ethics? dude do u have a grudge against kratos or something?

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        ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 01:54

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        Yes, I do somewhat disagree with free sample postings, however that's neither here nor there. All in all, this is basically a 'bargain' for a free demo - would you ever expect to pay for a demo? Also, who mentioned banning things? I merely asserted that this is not worthy of being a deal, not that we should permanently remove it forthwith. The fact of the matter is, this product is designed to be free and it is always free. Doesn't sound to be in keeping with the definition of 'bargain' to me

        so first you had a problem with the price of it being $0 so it shouldnt be posted here on ozbargain, and now you have a problem with its ethics? dude do u have a grudge against kratos or something?

        I have multiple reasons for my position. I find it difficult to believe that you're criticising this, after you skip from argument to argument with every single reply.

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        ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 02:03

        how am I skipping from argument to argument? I'm replying to your post as to why the value of this beta is not $0, if this deal does not appeal to you then simply don't post, there's hundreds of deals posted on ozbargain that don't appeal to me but I don't go posting in everyone of them saying this bargain should not be a bargain because it doesn't appeal to me. If the moderators think its unethical then actions will be taken, it just rubs me off the wrong way when people (no names mention) goes around acting like the ozbargain police and criticizing other people for trying to contribute to the ozbargain community.

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        ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 02:28

        Let's see, your first reply to me was saying that, since this is only (usually) available to Prime members, this is a bargain.

        Your second comment reiterated your first, whilst largely disregarding my response.

        Your third was arguing that, since other giveaways have a limited availability, and people then require luck to get in, they aren't equivalent (this is exactly the same for any form of sale, though, so your logic eludes me).

        Your fourth was in regards to free samples, and how my current argument applies to them (largely irrelevant).

        Your fifth reply is criticising me for possessing more than a single reason for my position, and also contains an odd sidetrack into ethics, even though I mentioned it only in passing (an extension of the 'this deal is not supposed to be available to us, and is therefore illegitimate' sentiment.

        All in all, you're not really sticking to a consistent theme in arguments, nor are you particularly dedicated to responding to some of the points within my post. Might I also raise the point that you, in making the positive assertion (that this is a deal), are responsible for providing evidence to that effect. Instead of doing this, you seem more intent on attacking my reasons as to why this isn't a deal.

        if this deal does not appeal to you then simply don't post

        I'm entitled to my opinion, whether it be criticism or praise, and I will voice it where I see fit. You're only objecting to it, because it doesn't conform with your own.

        it just rubs me off the wrong way when people (no names mention) goes around acting like the ozbargain police and criticizing other people for trying to contribute to the ozbargain community.

        It's called community moderation, and discussion. In your perfect little world, there would be no discussion (such as this), because people can apparently only voice praise. The whole purpose of this site is to reflect how the community feels… you're basically saying I'm not entitled to be a part of this, because I'm voicing criticism.

        Yes, obviously the mods will do with this as they please - but why should that deter conversation from occurring first? You act as if discussion and the sharing of opinion were a bad thing.

        Lastly: the only reason I'm arguing, is that I believe this is best suited to the forums. OzBargain is only the quality site it is as a result of (relatively) strict adherence to rules; I only argue for this cause, as I believe this posting does not conform with certain qualitative guidelines. (And finally, do note that I did not neg the deal - if that isn't evidence of my wish for discussion, not trolling, I don't know what is).

        Also, let me clarify something. The whole ethical thing, in case you didn't know, was a reference to the OzBargain Ethics thread, where someone was asking people to rank situations according to ethics. I was merely suggesting that this would make a fitting example (users taking advantage of a 'deal' they are, in fact, not entitled to - relating back to the whole Prime thing).

        Anywho, I'm off to bed. It's been a nice chat ;-)

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        ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 02:47

        Did you see how Moot responded to your first comment? If you want to be taken seriously and not sarcastically then post so…you seem like an intelligent person…instead of saying….do you usually have to pay for beta keys? like a smart alleck… why not just say 'maybe this post deserves to be in the forums because I believe bla bla bla….'

        If you have read through my reply, all of it was directed on answering your statements, I wasn't the one who mentioned giveaway first…it was you, I was replying to it, I was replying to your 'IGN Prime members only' Bear in mind that you still need to be registered to IGN to receive the beta key.

        In terms of ozbargain community it seems as though the only person who actually has a problem with this bargain is you, I just finished downloading the beta and played through the training mission, it gave me a good insight as to what to expect for GOW ascension next year.

        Anywho that's just my 2 cents, voice your opinion all you want, but just be weary of who might take it the right way or who might take it the wrong way.

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        ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 03:08

        Did you see how Moot responded to your first comment? If you want to be taken seriously and not sarcastically then post so…you seem like an intelligent person…instead of saying….do you usually have to pay for beta keys? like a smart alleck… why not just say 'maybe this post deserves to be in the forums because I believe bla bla bla….'

        And I already replied to that with my actual intentions. I can honestly say, it was not meant to be sarcastic / contemptuous. I usually find that building up to a statement that people generally don't like, is better than outright stating it (people take it the wrong way, really). Call it softening the blow, if you like.

        As for the intelligent person comment… why thank you, you don't seem half bad yourself.

        If you have read through my reply, all of it was directed on answering your statements, I wasn't the one who mentioned giveaway first…it was you, I was replying to it, I was replying to your 'IGN Prime members only' Bear in mind that you still need to be registered to IGN to receive the beta key.

        I remember what I said. I apologise if I implied you originally said it - I'm trying to be mindful of how large my comments are.

        In terms of ozbargain community it seems as though the only person who actually has a problem with this bargain is you, I just finished downloading the beta and played through the training mission, it gave me a good insight as to what to expect for GOW ascension next year.

        And I'm okay with being the only person who opposes it (though bear in mind that it is very early morning, the majority of OzBargainers are sleeping (as I should be)). As I mentioned in another comment, my argument isn't based on this post's existence or necessity, just how it is being presented.

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        ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 03:26

        Quote by you
        And I already replied to that with my actual intentions. I can honestly say, it was not meant to be sarcastic / contemptuous. I usually find that building up to a statement that people generally don't like, is better than outright stating it (people take it the wrong way, really). Call it softening the blow, if you like.

        My mother taught me, if you have nothing nice to say to someone, then it's better not to say anything at all.

        Also Quote by you
        I remember what I said. I apologise if I implied you originally said it - I'm trying to be mindful of how large my comments are.

        And you accuse me of jumping from argument to argument.

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        ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 03:47

        My mother taught me, if you have nothing nice to say to someone, then it's better not to say anything at all.

        It's not as though I was insulting him, so I'm not sure that life lesson applies to this circumstance. If, even with hedging, people cannot accept adverse opinions, that's their problem, not mine.

        And you accuse me of jumping from argument to argument.

        Sigh, as I've already said, it seemed to me that you had no central arguments (relating once more to the burden of proof), and were merely trying anything to see what stuck. My responses can be neatly summarised by the following, barring specific replies to you… can you say the same of your responses?

        • The key is a free item, that is designed to be free, and is free everywhere. A free item, by nature, cannot reduce in price - which is the very definition of a bargain. Therefore, this post is undeserving of a 'bargain' posting.
        • The beta keys are intended for IGN Prime users, and the posting can consequently be considered an illegitimate workaround.

        And FYI: you can quote passages with the use of '>'

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        krisspy on 22/12/2012 - 03:51

        +2

        This is entertaining

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        ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 03:53

        I'm glad you think so ;-)

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        ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 03:54

        My argument is

        -The Key is not a free item, this is not designed to be free, IGN had a finite amount of keys to give out to IGN Prime Users.

        -I tried receiving the beta key a few days ago but was not allowed due to not being an IGN Prime Member, it is available now to just regular members so I'm assuming they had plenty of 'left over' beta keys to hand out, so in retrospect I think this is not an illegitimate workaround but a generous offer by IGN.

        Let's just stop it at that, we both have different opinions about whether this should be classified as a bargain or not.

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        ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 03:55

        omg i can listen to that beat all day, positive for MJ reference!

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        ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 04:03

        -The Key is not a free item, this is not designed to be free, IGN had a finite amount of keys to give out to IGN Prime Users.

        So you're saying the beta keys distributed to IGN, and numerous other places, are not, in fact, free?

        -I tried receiving the beta key a few days ago but was not allowed due to not being an IGN Prime Member, it is available now to just regular members so I'm assuming they had plenty of 'left over' beta keys to hand out, so in retrospect I think this is not an illegitimate workaround but a generous offer by IGN.

        I made sure to check before I began this whole argument… I could not find any mention of the GoW:A beta outside the original Prime link on IGN, nor can it be accessed without going through the Prime portal. Couple that with 'closed beta', it seems to me that this is still intended to be for Prime users.

        Let's just stop it at that, we both have different opinions about whether this should be classified as a bargain or not.

        My bleary eyes agree with you (to some extent, at least)

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        ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 04:16

        If you pay for cable TV and you start watching every single sport channel on cable TV, does that mean the sport channels are free? No…you're paying for it…a monthly subscription service, IGN Prime users have early beta access codes by paying a monthly subscription.

        In my honest opinion I think IGN has plenty of spare 'beta keys' to hand out, they locked out the beta key a few days ago, and with a game this popular I'm sure IGN would prioritize their key distribution securely and make sure Prime Users gets Priority of the keys before the regular users do.

        I'm not sure if you've checked but on ozbargain there was a far cry deluxe bundle sale for just $8.44 I think it was, and it included the latest far cry 3 game, which retails for like $60. It got what you call it here 'ozbargained' and within minutes it had over almost a thousand clicks. Now if the sales person had a game advertised at a specific price then they have every right to honor it.

        I know for a fact, that if you go into a store like say, harvey norman, and you purchase this game which was sealed by their staff and priced by them, and you can prove it, then they are required by law to sell you the game at that price, even if it was a mistake by their staff.

        Anyways I'm going to go to bed now, it was fun chatting with you.

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  deathjr on 22/12/2012 - 00:50

  +1

  Sweet, worked like a charm. Thanks OP.

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  congo on 22/12/2012 - 00:57

  What is the Promotion Code?

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    ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 01:00

    You didn't see the great big red button 'Get my beta key'?

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      congo on 22/12/2012 - 01:07

      Yep, but the keys didn't work…

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        ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 01:13

        Well, your original question seems to have been rendered moot, since that was indeed the promotional code. As ur2dads said below, it isn't available in Australia, hence the keys not working.

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        ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 01:18

        you need a USA playstation network account, so hold onto the beta key that was generated and redeem it once you've made a USA psn account.

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        congo on 22/12/2012 - 01:41

        Thanks!

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  ur2dads on 22/12/2012 - 00:58

  Keys generated but the codes were invalid in the PSN shop.

  If it's any difference, I also have PSN+.

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    ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 01:08

    i think u need a USA playstation network account, so create a free USA psn and it should work

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      ur2dads on 22/12/2012 - 01:09

      Cheers mate. I'll make one tomorrow.

      EDIT: You're right.

      "Available to US, Canadian, and Latin American residents only.". Might edit the title, OP.

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  Username3RR0r on 22/12/2012 - 01:21

  Worked on my US account, downloading now. Thanks

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  Sage on 22/12/2012 - 02:25

  +1

  Thanks Moots! Great deal!

  To the people saying it's not a bargain because you wouldn't normally pay for it, wouldn't that also be applied to most freebies on this site? You wouldn't pay for a sample of a product yet it's still worth mentioning if we can get it.

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    ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 02:36

    'The people', meaning me, of course ;-)
    If you would notice, (and I think you did) I agreed that my current argument covers other freebies (my opinion, of course… an aspect some people have trouble grasping, it seems). Not sure why people continue to think this is notable; if you're looking for flaws in my judgement, you shall find none here :-)
    In all seriousness, my argument is mainly how it is mentioned. Whether it is worth mentioning is entirely subjective, however, since the current deal doesn't conform with the definition of a bargain, it really would be bested suited to the forums, which are designed for this purpose (discussion).

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      Tal_Shiar on 22/12/2012 - 02:43

      +2

      Thought you were going to bed?

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        ProspectiveDarkness on 22/12/2012 - 02:46

        +1

        Heh, so did I :-(
        I'm surprised you bothered reading through all that (unless you were merely skimming).

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        ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 02:48

        LOL had to positive that one, it made me laugh for a few minutes lololol

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  neosin on 22/12/2012 - 02:37

  wait, so the beta is over then what's the point of these keys?

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    ryudo222 on 22/12/2012 - 02:49

    you can still play the training mission, and when I was logged in, it still ran fine, and it even tried to find players….the lobby reminds me off call of duty, with the word SEARCHING FOR PLAYERS……underneath my nickname.

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