Hi guys,
Trying to buy a used car but the car is located interstate. Seller has sent pictures of the paint peeling, but I'm unable to ascertain the possible reasons as to why the paint is peeling. Any car gurus have any ideas? Have seen the mechanical inspection report and seems to be fine, not written off.
Take your pick. Not sure what difference it makes though, you either live with it or have to get it detailed and repainted.
Is everything OK at home dude?
Stay off the meds dude
Does NOT change the unacceptable condition of the vehicle
Its just a bit of paint. Plnety of car still running perfectly fine with peeling clearcoat and you can pick them up a bit cheaper because of it.
@Dr Phil: Oh dear you do need additional supports from your carers today, I truly feel sorry for them.
OP writes
Have seen the mechanical inspection report
HeWhoKnowsNothing writes:
Nobody in their right mind would buy a car without closely examining it
Are you suggesting OP conducts a mechanical inspection instead of the qualified professional that did it?
And such paint damage its considered "unrepaired damage" to the vehicle
A lot has changed in the insurance industry since you worked in it. I’m assuming you were a case manager, or broker or something, making claims like this. When did you leave the industry?
Giving such advise
*advice. Very foolish to be mixing up words like that
And how do you know its running fine? Very foolish to automatically think that
Of course i dont know that. My point was however, that cars can still be perfectly functional despite being a little off cosmetically.
Giving such advise when one appears to have NO EXPERIENCE when it comes to purchasing used vehicles is not good for OP!
You might find that my comment elsewhere in this thread indicates buying a car interstate isnt something you should do if you need to ask wether its a good buy on this forum.
A) it's a Mazda and the paint is crap
B) Could have been rear ended (giggity) and had those parts sprayed, poorly
C) don't buy a cx9
D) especially don't buy a cx9 interstate, I assume the only reason you are looking at it, is because it's cheap compared to others near you
Yes indeed, just need a cheap people mover so I thought I can live with certain imperfections. Any advice re not buying CX9?
It is not worth repainting. Not just Mazda, but many brands of the same vintage have similar issues.
That looks like the clear lacquer finish starting to peal , not the paint . Either way it's been touched up or had an accident.
As for the vehicle , that's on you to do the research.
Read about the coolant leak situation and along with the paint issue, decided to not go ahead with it
That rings a bell.
Yeah, they are crap. Bad engines, transfer cases etc etc. If it's cheaper than all the others it's probably got issues and the owner is trying to offload. If you want a people mover, get a people mover, not a cx9.
Got any evidence to back up those claims?
@CoreArchitect: Nope, you got me, they are great cars, just like the cx7. You should buy one, but you most likely already have one.
@brendanm: Have had one for 5 years. Haven't had a single problem with it. Thinking of selling it currently.
I was being serious. What's wrong with them? Back when I bought it, I did extensive research in that segment, and it came up fairly high in everything.
Don't
. And if you're still leaning that way.Don't waste the internet's time seeking validation.
Usually caused by always being under the sun (exposure to ultraviolet (UV) radiation) and car washing without wax etc.
I have Mazda 3 2012 Pearl White.
Beautiful colour, cared for paint with regular wash and wax.
Last year i didnt have space in garage and parked it on the street. The sun killed the clear coat. And now there is actual paint that is peeling back. The metal is exposed.
Dont buy
have you got it repainted? Any idea of the cost?
Give up. Stop trying to justify buying a cx9
xd
*and then repainting a 10 year old car for people moving
Not worth, expensive paint.
I saw similar happen to my previously perfectly fine Swift. After going nuts at my parents, they informed me an overzealous uncle 🙄 'polished' the car.
When I asked what he used, they couldn't tell me. But I caused similar looking damage. Like tree branch rubbing. What ever has done it, I can tell you another off the shelf bottle of polish wont fix it 🤷♀️
Its not the paint that's peeling. Its the clear coat over it.
The bond between the paint and the clearcoat has failed.
It says something that both the images show the problem only on the tailgate rear of the car. I'm not sure what it is though. The usual cause is UV radiation from the sun. But that wouldn't be limited to the tailgate. There's something has happened with the tailgate during the history of the car. Perhaps it was damage - that can occur before the car is even delivered - and it was resprayed poorly, like the clear coat cleaned off then reapplied over a poorly prepared paint job.
Due to poor car washing using wrong chemicals/cloths/procedure.
Consequences?
Zero
You should be more worried about the mechanics, the service record, the way it’s been driven/ looked after.
The paint faults will by far outlive any mechanical problems
Those 2 parts look like just plastic trim, the paint on those are different and usually the first to go. They were probably too rough with cleaning the plastic bits as if they were the metal body. Although an Eyesore, not a major issue. but then again, could just be the surface of overall fault in the paint from factory.
I sold off a lower end older Mazda earlier in the year with severe sun damage (like the picture but all over the car).
Mine wasn't related to any previous accident, but assume it was due to uv exposure (no garage) and no wax over the life of having the car
Might be this guy at it again - Police Finally Catch Man Responsible For Stealing Clearcoat Off 1990s Magnas
Its perfectly normal wear and tear for paint.
It proabably not worth paying someone to repaint it, but might be worth a diy repair.
If you have to ask random internet people to 'inspect' a used car that you arent sure about making the effort to inspect, you need to find another car within a shorter distance.
Mazda/QLD/shit paint.
There's the answer. What was the question,again?
I am fecked if I know why you would need to know why?
I want to know why you are even considering buying it.If you are, online advice is superfluous to your attitude,isn't it?
PS Great cars if you restrict travel to tunnels.
See this a lot on Honda's too. Thin clear coat + UV damage
Solid (non metallic / non-pearl coat) white paint is always the answer.
please post the inspection report less personal information
or not because it can get brodened
It's been in the sun and never been waxed / sealed / ceramic coated.
I'd expect about $6k off normal prices with that. The only fix is a respray
Correct answer, is machine grey on Mazda's for that 16-18ish generation fail on the rear roof spoiler and on the tail gate only.
Have had many covered out of new car warranty period in my previous job.
It also affects CX-5's.
Engine issues are 16-17 (late) as well, 18+ engines had no head issues.
Hey Kidder
Hope you don't mind the message but I remember reading your detailed review on the CX5 and could do with some expert advice… Unfortunately that post has closed and I am unable to message you directly hence I am replying to your post here…
I recently took my Mazda CX5 Akeria (MY13) for its 110,000km service and it was recommended by my local dealership that I replace the left and Right front lower control arm bushes, and also replace the rear break pads.
The quote for this work from the dealership was over $3k plus gst.
Today I have had the work done by a local mechanic at a third of this cost for which I am naturally very pleased about.
However, on review of the camera timings in my car, I can see that the time spent by the mechanic to do all of this work only took 70 minutes to do - from start to finish.
I have asked Google how long to replace brushes and they are saying approx 2-4 hours and for rear disc pads approx 1-2 hours.
I appreciate this is a local mechanic with car lifts and all the essential tools, but does 70 minutes to do all of this in full sound reasonable to you?
I admit that I cant really tell if anything has been replaced as I don't really know what I am looking at - so I am just going off the timings.
The mechanic may be exceptionally good but what also has me wondering was that when I went to collect my car the mechanic had already left for the day and is now on leave for 2 weeks so the person behind the desk couldn't really help or explain what had been done other than what was stated on the invoice which was what I have explained above.
Given your extensive experience with Mazda CX5 I really would be interested in your opinion to see if all of this work was possible within a 70 minute timeframe and if you have any doubts then I will arrange for an independent check.
Many thanks
Harveyworld
Hey mate,
Front LCA’s (lower control arms) on your car shouldn’t take longer than 1.5 hours at most. So an experienced tech could knock it out quite quickly.
That said, I’m talking about complete LCA’s, not replacing the bushes as that’s way more time intensive. Mazda wouldn’t quote bushes only, but would highlight that as the issue (fair). They’ll be replacing complete arms.
The Mazda cost will be genuine parts vs aftermarket and of course, some labour differences.
Same theory to the brakes though generally the Mazda dealer might’ve quoted you brake pads and rotors, or at minimum, brake pads and a disc machine. Reason for this is to basically guarantee no brake noise and no brake shudder.
It’s entirely plausible that in 70mins, they’ve carried out front LCA replacements (both sides, NOT bushes), and rear brake pad replacement (no machining), especially as they aren’t diagnosing or looking for issues, and the car is already on the lift.
Just noting, nothing wrong with aftermarket parts as long as they’re of a reputable brand!
Cheers
Many thanks for your reply. This logic makes sense.
I did take my car to a local back street garage yesterday, and after a quick look he confirmed that he could tell that parts had been replaced relating to the brakes and the bushes.
He also said that some garages charge minimum labour costs for certain jobs (matrix pricing) so maybe he was just fortunate that he was able to complete the jobs quicker than usual on my vehicle.
Anyway, all I wanted was comfort that parts had been replaced and work had been done - which it had.
Thanks again for taking the time to reply.
Happy to help. Cheers
The reason it is a crap junk jap car. Do not buy junk jap/kor cars.
Car=German
It's how Mazda paint rolls (particularly the "metalic" variants) :/