Is an EV Right for Me?

greenslade on 29/12/2024 - 08:58
Last edited 29/12/2024 - 09:00

Genuine question about the suitability of an EV for my lifestyle. My old ICE has been written off unexpectedly, I need a car asap. I had been expecting my next car (in a few years' time) to be an EV + home solar but there are a few contextual factors that I need advice on.

1) I'm currently a full time house sitter in Northern NSW/Gold Coast - that is, I move houses every month or so. Most homes I sit do not have a fast charger set up. I may often have to rely on public infrastructure or home plug-in. Is this possible or realistic? Is home charging without a fast charger an acceptable option? (Incidentally, no I don't generally pay for electricity on house sits, but the home owners may not be happy with the increased consumption and generally won't have advantageous tariffs or home solar.)

2) my average weekday mileage is 130+ km.

3) financials: I can get a novated lease through work if needed. Income $130k+ so I'm just about in the tax bracket where it becomes worthwhile. Alternatively I could pay cash for second hand car (but ICE prices seem daft at the moment).

I'd welcome advice from those who know EV and charging well enough.
I am open to EV, PHEV, or another ICE if it's the right option for my current situation.

TIA

Automotive Electric Vehicle

Comments

  • CyberMurning on 29/12/2024 - 09:04
    +5

    damn that income, very good - i was picking the wrong career path

    • RTX9090Ti on 30/12/2024 - 09:53
      +1

      Become a tradie with a Ford Ranger and you'll be in the right path.

    • Purp on 30/12/2024 - 11:35
      +2

      sure beats 60k the nsw government pays, considered low income by their own disaster welfare standards

  • oscargamer on 29/12/2024 - 09:21
    +25

    I just got an MG4, charge it on the granny charger in my garage and have only needed to use a commercial charger twice in 5000km.

    A typical 240v charger can deliver between 1.4 to 2kw per hour into your battery. So if you charge 12 hours per night, you'll get about 20kwh delivered. This will get you somewhere between 100km and 130km. Depending on a lot of things.

    Sounds like you could readily get by with only the very occasional charge from a commercial charger

      • insane on 30/12/2024 - 08:59
        +63

        What a load of bollocks. A torrent of incorrect misinformation, spread with confidence.

        • May4th on 30/12/2024 - 09:21
          +10

          username does not check out

        • JIMB0 on 30/12/2024 - 11:02
          +3

          Plenty of spelling and punctuation errors as well.

          • 2025 on 30/12/2024 - 12:56
            +20

            @HeWhoKnows: I haven’t got time to demonstrate how almost everything from you is simply ill informed and untrue, but let’s just take this one.

            And then there is the risk of causing damage to thier (sic) power circuit…or worse still a an EV or house fire as has happened on such occassions(sic)

            This toaster: https://staging.sunbeam.com.au/kitchen-and-home/kettles-and-…

            Pulls more power than the plug in EV charger oscargamer mentioned. The toaster is more likely to damage the power circuit or burn the house down.

            You might claim that the toaster isn’t on as long as a charger, so we need to factor in the slow heat buildup of the wiring. Ok then. Thats why I came prepared with a radiant heater that many would use all day long https://www.harveynorman.com.au/goldair-2400w-radiant-heater… that once again pulls more current than the chargers.

            BTW, I’d have thought that a person with your mileage would have finally mastered the English language, but like everything else, even the very words you write are littered with mistakes.

            • hothed on 30/12/2024 - 16:23
              +9

              @2025: Circuit breakers are designed to protect the electrical cables from overheating.

              Ex sparky

              • 2025 on 30/12/2024 - 16:38
                +8

                @hothed: That’s right, I’m not sure what WhoTheHellKnows was on about when talking about damaging the circuit lol.

            • klaw81 on 30/12/2024 - 21:41
              +7

              @2025: As usual, HeWhoKnows username does not check out - a veritable treasure trove of disinformation.

              I wonder if he can identify:
              1. A single instance of an Australian house burning down due to EV charging, or
              2. An example of an Australian insurance company increasing premiums for risk associated with EV charging, or even
              3. An example of an Australian insurance company requiring disclosure of EV charging on the insured dwelling.

              Moreover, there is apparently a "moral dilemma" of using electricty to charge a car; this is somehow vastly different to using the same amount of electricity to run an air conditioner or heater, while being similarly discretionary. The comparison of MG3 to MG4 is also inaccurate - MG3 is best compared to a Kia Picanto, where an MG4 is more comparable to a Corolla.

              • 2025 on 30/12/2024 - 22:58
                +1

                @klaw81: Wait until he learns that my induction cooktop rips more juice from the grid than a Tesla home charger, but oh no it’s a car that risks the circuit ahahahaha

                HeWhoKnows, do I need to tell my insurance people about my cooktop?

                I can find a handful of reports of mobility scooter fires killing Australians, but have been unable to find any from EV fires. Am I missing something here?

                • serpserpserp on 01/01/2025 - 08:13

                  @2025:

                  Wait until he learns that my induction cooktop rips more juice from the grid than a Tesla home charger,

                  How many cooking spots does your induction cook top have? Two spots will probably do under 7kwh which is a standard installed EV wall charger.

            • HeWhoKnows on 01/01/2025 - 09:02
              -6

              @2025: I think you are TOAST

              But I guest you might be suggesting to OP doesnt make toast

              • 2025 on 01/01/2025 - 11:27
                +2

                @HeWhoKnows:

                I think you are TOAST

                But I guest(sic) you might be suggesting to OP doesnt make toast

                No, simply demonstrating that there are appliances available that “strain” the power circuit more than the chargers oscargamer was talking about. I’m sorry you missed that point.

                I’m wondering, were you trying to write guessed?
                It might actually explain a few things, you get simple one syllable works mixed up, it’s no wonder you seem to struggle with comprehension and rudimentary concepts.

                Unfortunately, I do not know how to communicate ideas to you, if one syllable words cause confusion, perhaps a picture book might be more appropriate.

          • schwinn on 30/12/2024 - 22:22
            +10

            @HeWhoKnows: First Name: HeWhoKnows
            Last Name: Nothing

          • smartazz104 on 01/01/2025 - 17:21

            @HeWhoKnows:

            I dont make things up like you probably do.

            Yet your username never checks out.

      • jhaley3180 on 30/12/2024 - 09:47
        +17

        Firstly, WTAF are you taking about? Can you cite any insurance company that limits policies based on EV charging? The evidence clearly points to EVs being safer than ICE vehicles with rates of fires being massively lower for EVs than ICE cars (https://www.evfiresafe.com/) ….

        If OP has an EV and discloses this to people then there would likely be zero issue with electricity cost. Based on provided info charging off peak at my house Ops likely usage would be less that $1 per day.

        Regarding depreciation, yep depreciation on new technology is to be expected. Imagine the depreciation on ICE cars come closer 2035 when Europe, China and US ban the sale of ICE vehicles….

        Regarding the escalating cost of electricity, ermmmmmm, have you seen what the cost of fuel does over time too?

        So you don't like EVs fine. You do you.

          • klaw81 on 01/01/2025 - 23:15
            +2

            @HeWhoKnows:

            See here:

            That article very clearly relates specifically to EV charging as it pertains to a body corporate or strata title arrangement, where there are communal assets, and thus public liability risks. It has absolutely zero relevance to this discussion.

            For a detached dwelling, insurance companies are on the record confirming that there is no requirement to inform them of an intent to store or charge an EV on the premises, let alone an uplift in insurance premiums.

            In any case, using a "granny charger" plugged into a standard wall socket to charge an EV overnight is virtually indistinguishable from running a portable air conditioner.

        • R4 on 01/01/2025 - 16:32

          The US is not banning the sale if ICE cars from 2035. Not sure about China.

          As for the upcoming European and UK bans, watch this space. Reality is going to collide with expectation very soon.

          • Euphemistic on 01/01/2025 - 18:57
            +1

            @R4: I suspect they wont have bans in place becasue they want to placate the brainwashed for now. but in 10 years, hardly anyone is going to want to buy an ICE anyway, let alone manufacturers continuuing to sell a wide range of ICE cars.

          • klaw81 on 01/01/2025 - 23:33

            @R4:

            The US is not banning the sale if ICE cars from 2035.

            What the US does about EV regulations is virtually irrelevant to our local markets. We barely import any cars from there.

            Not sure about China.

            China is transitioning to EVs very quickly, and this clearly has major government backing. They are expanding EV production to support not just their own market (which is about 3x the US market) but also a rapidly growing export market, of which Australia is clearly a significant part.

            The emissions regulations that come into force in Australia this year will only add further impetus to EVs, as companies like BYD are able to sell their credits to laggards like Isuzu, Mitsubishi etc.

            As for the upcoming European and UK bans, watch this space.

            I suspect they will be deferred by up to 5 years, but it's still going to happen.

            Europe has been the world leader in environmental regulation for quite some time and there is no reason to expect that to change.

      • Caped Baldy on 30/12/2024 - 14:03
        +7

        Yeah, no.

        An aircon can easily use more electricity than an EV charging at 2.4kW….

        • serpserpserp on 01/01/2025 - 08:15

          Aircon units use surprisingly little energy. Unless in heater mode and even then pretty efficient.

          I have the three back to backs that even on a 40 degree day don't do over 5kwh combined.

        • HeWhoKnows on 01/01/2025 - 08:59
          -8

          But they dont have batteries that can explode into fire that cannot be extinguished

          • 2025 on 01/01/2025 - 11:32
            +4

            @HeWhoKnows: Ok and what about all the people with 2x45KG gas bottles strapped to the side of their house for heating? When they explode there is nothing left to extinguish.

      • D3HUN on 30/12/2024 - 18:24
        +9

        @HeWhoKnows What happened, did a big bad EV hurt you?

      • NMC on 01/01/2025 - 12:20
        +6

        Wow, it's like a summary of all the bullshit perpetuated by mainstream media. So many claims, not one of them backed by evidence.

        So you consider spreading lies to be morally acceptable?

      • donga100 on 02/01/2025 - 00:02

        lol

    • Ozykins on 02/01/2025 - 07:33

      I monitor my 240V granny charger if I use it when visiting family, so I can pay them for juice used. Load registers at about 2.4kW.
      Make sure you plug into decent quality socket hardware as that's often the weakest point and can be a source of overheating.
      Check the plug temperature a few times over the first two or three hours to make sure.
      You did say you have reservations as to whether your clients would be happy for you to plug in. Why not just ask 'em and offer to pay. You can get a power monitoring adapter plug cheaply enough.
      Having said all that, perhaps a plugin PHEV might be good for you. Think about the higher servicing cost though.
      I've been running an EV for just over 4 years and found it really civilised. My next car will probably be an EV too.

  • EightImmortals on 29/12/2024 - 09:25
    +2

    Hybrid

    • supersabroso on 30/12/2024 - 21:47
      +1

      Agreed, if you care about money but don't want to be stuck in the past, go with a conventional hybrid car. If you love driving in EV mode but still semi-care about money and you're willing to plug it in every single day, go with a plug in hybrid. If you don't care about money and just love technology and EV mode, splurge on an EV car. You'll never recoup the cost savings in petrol with your 6760km/year of driving but it's a personal lifestyle choice and you'll only need to plug it in at home once a fortnight unless you've got a Tesla with sentry mode active all the time.

      • donga100 on 02/01/2025 - 00:13

        OP is doing A LOT more than 6760km per year. They are doing at least 34k assuming they don't drive at all on weekends. They will be ahead very quickly compared to an ICE car due to the fuel savings. The price of the car may not even be higher if they are able to novated lease and take advantage of the FBT incentives.

  • 87percent on 29/12/2024 - 09:27
    +8

    You make $130k house sitting?!

    • isthisreallife22 on 29/12/2024 - 09:52
      +1

      And can access perks like novated lease? Who knew

      • CyberMurning on 29/12/2024 - 10:04

        i said it i am in the wrong field

    • greenslade on 29/12/2024 - 10:13
      +46

      Lol. That'd be the dream!
      No I currently make Nada house sitting, but I work remotely and with house sitting I don't pay rent.
      Fastest way to save for a house deposit in this crazy market - house prices in the area went up 50% in the past 4 years, outpacing my abililty to save

      • Pelicannn on 29/12/2024 - 13:32
        +7

        Good for you. Nice to see people thinking outside the box to save. My friend does a similar thing!

        • notauser on 01/01/2025 - 23:38

          Next, op needs to sublet out rooms while house sitting for maximum returns

      • Domingo on 30/12/2024 - 11:24

        Where do you stay if you have a gap between house sitting gigs? I assume they don't always end/start on the same day?

        Also do you have a storage unit to keep stuff in?

        • serpserpserp on 01/01/2025 - 08:16
          +1

          If you are house sitting you probably don't keep a lot of belongings. Probably lives with family/friends in time off.

      • Roe Jogan on 30/12/2024 - 11:36

        %50 sounds good its more like %100 around here in sydney in the last 4 years it doubled

      • eddyah on 30/12/2024 - 22:42
        +3

        should win an ozbargain award or something as this is quite clever!

      • pinkybrain on 02/01/2025 - 08:18

        what do you do for remote work?

        how much do you earn as a house sitter?

        • greenslade on 02/01/2025 - 09:11
          +1

          Zero as a house sitter.

          Some people charge a daily or weekly fee once their reputation is well established in an area, but it's rarely above $50 a day for longer term house sits. Expectations tend to be higher - eg you'll also mow the lawn, tend to the orchids, brush the horse or whatever, so the hourly rate is not good. Still nicer to be getting paid for free rent! Nice gig of you can get it.
          Short term pet sits on MadPaws can be $70 for an overnight but you've got to factor in travel and hassle.

  • Helmuth on 29/12/2024 - 09:27
    +13

    Granny charger is fine. Just ABC. (Always Be Charging). More amps and cheap tarriff is better but needs to wait until you have a more permanent setup.

    You may need to offer a contribution to electrical bill.

  • onetwothreefour on 29/12/2024 - 09:46
    +1

    Another comment requesting more info on the house sitting!

    • CyberMurning on 29/12/2024 - 10:05
      +2

      agree it deserves an AMA thread!

  • try2bhelpful on 29/12/2024 - 10:00

    You might want to expand on your income. I assume it isn’t from housesitting?

    • JIMB0 on 29/12/2024 - 10:47
      -1

      my average weekday mileage is 130+ km

      Some kind of delivery driver, uber?

      • CyberMurning on 29/12/2024 - 10:48

        or delivering something else worth millions

        • pegaxs on 29/12/2024 - 11:00
          +22

          $130k a year “house sitting”, moving frequently, 130km/day… dude is selling weed.

  • esosite on 29/12/2024 - 10:44
    +3

    I think you'd be fine. As others have said slow charging 12 hrs a day will probably get you the 130km daily, you may by end of week need a tiny boost up somewhere.

    I wouldn't even tell the owners you are charging - it would be no more than just running AC 24/7 which I'm sure plenty of house sitters etc would do, so doubt they would notice.

    As for which one, with a novated lease you will get a good deal. Tesla is best for a reason, but lots of others look very compelling. if wanting to go cheap the Ora at $33-35k is very affordable especially considering ~30% tax discount

  • kerfuffle on 29/12/2024 - 11:03
    +3

    Obligatory Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CarsAustralia/comments/1hogiec/hous…

    • pegaxs on 29/12/2024 - 11:40
      +3

      Oh, that wont go over well there. One of the most toxic, anti-EV circle-jerk echo chambers on Reddit.

      How did OP go over on Whingepool? They put up a confirmation bias post over there yet?

      • greenslade on 29/12/2024 - 12:26

        I haven't tried whirlpool yet!

        • Brick Tamland on 29/12/2024 - 13:01
          +4

          Spoiler: Whingepool says get the EV. But then whinge pool says get an EV even if you specifically want a v8

          • pegaxs on 29/12/2024 - 18:22
            +5

            @Brick Tamland: Here it's "I need a 2.5t ute to tow a car trailer…" and suggestions are always "Have you considered a Camry".

            Or, "I need a car, around $10k just for going to work/school and home…" and it's all "Have you considered this $60,000 Tesla Model *something*??"

      • McSquintus on 30/12/2024 - 09:13
        +1

        Standard Reddit. Toxic echo chambers all over the place.

  • Brick Tamland on 29/12/2024 - 11:25
    -2

    I think an EV that relies on public charging will be very inconvenient.

    • pegaxs on 29/12/2024 - 11:41
      +20

      What, compared to a petrol car that you can fill at home?

      • Brick Tamland on 29/12/2024 - 11:50
        -5

        I have a jerry can that I could use to fill it up from home

        • pegaxs on 29/12/2024 - 18:25
          +8

          Right… And what wall outlet does that fuel come out of at home to fill said "jerry can"… Or are you planning on using, say.. a "public filling facility"??

          • Brick Tamland on 29/12/2024 - 18:26
            -2

            @pegaxs: I make it from potatoes and compost

            • Matt P on 01/01/2025 - 14:09

              @Brick Tamland: I tried putting potatoes and compost together once, all i got was more potatoes

              • Brick Tamland on 01/01/2025 - 14:20
                -1

                @Matt P: Seems like a win, potatoes are expensive to buy at the moment.

      • shutuptakemymoney101 on 30/12/2024 - 20:47

        Serious question from an interested non-ev owner, I know how long it takes to fuel up at the servo to get me another 800km but is there an average 'charge up' time that can be quoted for EV's? How long do people usually spend on a shared public plug?

        • Euphemistic on 30/12/2024 - 21:26
          +3

          Theres lots of variables. Youd need to know how big your battery is, what rate the charger is, if the charger can meet its max rating and how full you want the battery. Then, typically batteries will charge quickly to 80% then slow the charge rate.
          Get you calculator our?

          Have a friend who regulalry travels just over the max range of her tesla. She chooses two 10-15min stops on that trip to ensure she makes the trip with some charge left, then slow charges at destinafion. The alternative is to charge once to full for longer on the trip.

          So, the answer is they charge the minimum needed for thw next leg of the trip - unkess stopping for longer for another reason. Its a change of mindset from full to empty becasue you want to avoid refueling. Instead, take the opportunity to charge where you can charge while doing something else.

          • shutuptakemymoney101 on 31/12/2024 - 00:28
            +1

            @Euphemistic: I see, understood - thank you for the reply. That really does require a change of mindset regarding charging. Think this type of charging would make me anxious in case things change and I'm caught short.

            Was considering a novated lease arrangement but perhaps an EV isn't for me just yet.

            • serpserpserp on 01/01/2025 - 09:43
              +1

              @shutuptakemymoney101: It is weird how people think. Because like if I travel to Phillip Island from Melbourne for a getaway, it might only be 150km max each way, but I'll stop at a petrol station at least once anyway regardless of how much fuel I have. If I had a long range Tesla or Xpeng G6 I could potentially do two trips without a charge. I think people might surprise themselves on how much an inconvenience a public charger is. If you have solar or even a wall plug at home it isn't even a problem.

              This completely changes for those 300km each way trips. But again, you are stopping at the petrol station at least once out of habit for that anyway.

              • Nugs on 01/01/2025 - 09:45
                +1

                @serpserpserp: "it might only be 150km max each way, but I'll stop at a petrol station at least once anyway regardless of how much fuel I have"
                why?
                .

                • serpserpserp on 01/01/2025 - 11:35

                  @Nugs: Just habit. Road trips require snacks etc. Toilet stop. Usually just happens

        • klaw81 on 30/12/2024 - 21:37
          +1

          The "fill up when it's nearly empty" mentality isn't very efficient for EVs generally. Instead, charging is something that usually occurs while you're not using the car - mostly when you're parked at home, but also when you're at the shopping centre, or the library, or perhaps when you're stopped overnight at a motel or restaurant. These are situations where the duration of the charge simply doesn't really matter - it happens while you're doing something else, and you merely plug the car in as you leave, and unplug it when you return.

          To answer your question more directly - as Euphemistic has already said, there are lots of variables. The maximum speed of the charger varies quite a lot, and the speed at which your car can accept charge also varies. But assuming there are fast chargers available on your routes, the typical cadence during road trips is to drive for 200-300km, stop and charge for 15-25 minutes, and then continue for another 200-300km etc.

          • Euphemistic on 30/12/2024 - 22:04
            +1

            @klaw81: Tbose short stops might initially appear inconvenient, but they are very good at decreasing driver fatigue. Rather than 3min splash and dash stops that do little to reduce fatigue.

            • klaw81 on 30/12/2024 - 22:07
              +3

              @Euphemistic:

              Those short stops might initially appear inconvenient, but they are very good at decreasing driver fatigue.

              Totally agree, and I've been doing similar stops my whole life regardless of the vehicle.

              At least 15 minutes break every 2 hours is the recommended cadence of rest stops in Australia anyway.

              • shutuptakemymoney101 on 31/12/2024 - 00:35
                +1

                @klaw81: As a young lad I'd drive from Townsville to Brisbane stopping only for petrol along the way, I can't do that anymore these days not that I'd want to. Any long distance driving now is usually done two up to reduce the risk of driver fatigue with reasonable change over periods.

        • Innately Incognito on 31/12/2024 - 00:45
          +1

          As mentioned, there's a ton of variables.. a few that spring to mind:
          * Supercharger speed
          * State of charge (charges faster at lower SoC)
          * Battery temperature (most cars will precondition, unless you just turn up without telling your car you were headed there)
          * Supercharger split (2nd Gen chargers split power between 2 stalls)

          Usually it's around 10-15 minutes and your Tesla will actually precondition the battery for arrival, and tell you approx how long you'll stop for when you navigate to the next destination. Tesla superchargers are pretty good, except that the 2nd Gen superchargers share power so you might plug into 2A and someone arrives at 2B and slows your charging speed (from 250kW to 125kW).

          Generally speaking though.. we'd commonly do a 10-15 minute stop (or two) on a roadtrip and then plug into the destination charger at the hotel for 6 hours or so. Given most hotels don't charge for electricity, it means that your hotel stay is saving you about $50 in supercharging as well (or in ICE terms 500km of petrol).

          To me at least, the 10-15 minute stop where you can plug in and walk off feels nicer than a 5 minute stop where you're standing at the pump then queuing in line at the servo. If you went to get food and take a piss, at least both things are happening concurrently with the EV rather than consecutively when pumping petrol.

    • oscargamer on 29/12/2024 - 11:42
      +5

      Brick - Do you have a petrol/diesel pump at home, or do you use a public one?

      • Brick Tamland on 29/12/2024 - 11:51
        +4

        Nope but there is at least 50 pumps within a 7km radius of me, pretty convenient, and only takes me 3 mins to fill up

        • oscargamer on 29/12/2024 - 13:22
          +9

          It's funny that since ev's became popular, the time taken to fill a car has become the mantra of anti ev drivers.

          Not the cost per km

          Not the driving experience

          Not the lovely acceleration characteristics

          I now love my new cheap EV. I also love my old and crappy ice

          My better half will often borrow the ev to save money, but we also use her ice.

          One size doesn't fit all

          • Brick Tamland on 29/12/2024 - 13:38
            -3

            @oscargamer: Theres a whole bunch of pro's and con's. My response was in relation to filling it up so I am not going to list every other detail not relevant the issue am I?

            • try2bhelpful on 29/12/2024 - 14:11
              +4

              @Brick Tamland: Except that charging at home is much more convenient to driving to a petrol station and sitting in a queue. Particularly during the holiday season when everyone wants to fill their car.

              • Brick Tamland on 29/12/2024 - 14:19
                +2

                @try2bhelpful: But the issue is around the OP not always having a charge at home option available.

                • try2bhelpful on 29/12/2024 - 14:26
                  -1

                  @Brick Tamland: Then there are other charging stations out there as well.

                  https://www.evchargingmap.com.au/queensland/gold-coast

                  • Brick Tamland on 29/12/2024 - 14:31
                    +2

                    @try2bhelpful: But the Op may not always be close to a convenient one?

                    • try2bhelpful on 29/12/2024 - 14:43
                      -1

                      @Brick Tamland: Most EVs have a decent range and there should be a charger within an easy drive. All it requires is the OP to do some forward planning. After all he is saving a lot of money by not having to put petrol in the car. I’ve certainly seem motels that have charging stations in their car parks so you don’t even have the inconvenience of stopping at a petrol station if you stay overnight. We are also seeing shopping centres begin to have charging stations so you can charge whilst you shop. I dint think the minor inconvenience of finding a charging station is a huge issue.

                      • Brick Tamland on 29/12/2024 - 14:45
                        -2

                        @try2bhelpful: So you have to sneak into a hotel grounds to charge. Sounds real convenient. But they are doing reasonable KM everyday means they will hunting for a charger every second day.

                        • try2bhelpful on 29/12/2024 - 16:22
                          -1

                          @Brick Tamland: No, I’m saying that if people are on holidays they have charging options as well. The OPs weekly travel is 130km. You might want to look up the range for EVs nowadays. He is looking at every two weeks not every two days.

                          • Brick Tamland on 29/12/2024 - 16:26
                            +1

                            @try2bhelpful: The daily travel is 130km. Mg4 is rated at 350km so realistically 280km which gives them 2 days travel

                            • try2bhelpful on 29/12/2024 - 19:25
                              +1

                              @Brick Tamland: 2) my average weekday mileage is 130+ km

                              Ah, I read that as weekly. 130km per day is a lot of kms.

                              • notauser on 01/01/2025 - 23:46

                                @try2bhelpful: Seems weird if hes working from home and house sitting but also driving 130kms every week day. Wonder if he meant to say weekly..

            • Waltervp on 30/12/2024 - 09:20
              +1

              @Brick Tamland: My friend says he doesn't do this anymore; QUEUE for a spot and squeeze in, WAIT for minutes at the bowser for car to fill, smell fumes and often get dirty hands, WAIT at a cash register and pay. Now he parks car at charger, goes for a coffee and does some chores, comes back and his EV is waiting for him! Says he rarely uses a public charger as home charging is enough for his 50+ KMs a day and when doing Brisbane/Canberra trips he needs to pee and drink more minutes then the car needs charging, and doesn't get smelly hands…. He lives his… Yep… Tesla….

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