Close to the ATL for this card (1425 when they had that zip pay deal on top of a discount going on).
You guys can HODL all you like, but if you're looking for a card now, this is a great price.
Close to the ATL for this card (1425 when they had that zip pay deal on top of a discount going on).
You guys can HODL all you like, but if you're looking for a card now, this is a great price.
Capped, I tried applying the plus code and discount stayed the same
I've heard that shops a pain to deal with post sales though,anyone confirm
Can confirm, trying to get an RMA on this exact card and it’s taking forever. Emailing just isn’t enough.
What is the issue with your card? Genuinely curious… I am building a PC right now, and am really tempted to buy something like this, but I will most likely hold off for 50 series release.
I had a faulty RAM from them once and the process seems pretty standard… get RMA number, send back, wait for testing, they send new kit, almost two weeks from memory.
Paid with bank transfer and somehow can’t get a fault on the card according to an email on the 15th and I replied the same day and two follow up emails later. From today the 26th, been almost a Month since the start of the RMA, not sure what is happening.
I'm still HODLing for more off on 4080 Supers but this store just sold the last Gigabyte and MSI 4080 Supers… tense times ahead
This shop's ebay storefront generally only shows '1 in stock' for some sku's like the Gigabyte 4080 Super Gaming OC, which when sold, will show out of stock, but only for a few hours.
I know this because I got the above card for $1599 on friday when it was only showing 1 in stock, but as I kept checking various deals during the day as they popped up on ozbargain, I noticed the card came back in stock with '1 in stock' a few hours after my purchase.
So, they must have limited stock, and so only selling 1 at a time means they never over sell what stock they have, as they have at least 2 digital storefronts, so syncing them is easier, and refunding is easier, if it's only 1 possibly erroneous ebay sale.
Saying that though, it is known that stock will be drying up, as production has ceased, so maybe they have sold out completely.
NV have already shifted production from 40 series to 50 series
Mid tier Battlemage B580 has been leaked and will offer 4060 performance with 12GB VRAM
AMD have stopped competing and might release an RX 8800 XT that matches a 4070 Ti Super 16GB
Which means from 5070 up, NV has no competition and will go full Apple on pricing
Why is AMD not competing?
I feel like amd have barely competed in high end for years but I believe amd themselves said they are giving up making high end cards. Or deprioritising
I don't agree with the AMD part I just think they are warning customers that they can't rival an xx90 series card
They will still have upper tier cards just not top tier.
We will probably still see an 8900xt
AMD will never be able to bring out a 4070ti super equitant card out - its smaller then their 6800 XT - uses less power and RT/DLSS is 10X better then AMD stuff
not a fanboy but these are facts
what? the 7900 XT beats the 4070 / super since it was released, and there's the XTX as well. AMD is more efficient this gen as well.
"dlss is 10x better" it's not, used both FSR and DLSS and the difference is so small you need static screenshots to see any
RT is stronger on nvidias but they are also MUCH more expensive and have too little memory, so no free lunch
you are clearly being a fanboy
@CrazyTachikoma: there are other factors here
4070ti s is overall a better card - its smaller, uses less power, its quitter and runs cooler - once you compare it in games that use RT it overtakes 7900 xt
not to mention you get much better VR experience
7900xt pulls much more power (50-100+W) for a marginal 10% or so increase in frames
AMD hasn't competed with Nvidia this gen - they just upped the power draw and basically OCD RDNA2
I have AMD 9800 X3d and HAD 6800 XT - I am not a fanboy
facts are facts
I now have a quitter system that doesn't turn my room into a boil pot
there is more then pure stats and its also a reason Nvidia has outsold AMD 20-1
"AMD have stopped competing and might release an RX 8800 XT that matches a 4070 Ti Super 16GB"
stopped competing in the high end (read 4080 / 4090)
a 7900 RTX is stronger than a 4080 in everything except ray tracing
a 20GB 7900 XT is stronger and has 8GB more memory than a 4070 / ti / super
the new 8800XT will likely be stronger than the 7900 XTX, again, stronger than a 4080 - the target is not the 4070…
The 7900xtx is about 20% better in raw power. With raytracing however the 4070 Ti super is the winner by roughly 20%,
those are horrible stats for AMD - take my other comment in regard too with power draw, noise, heat
@botchie: it's not, according to techpowerup's review, the 4070 TI Super is just 10% faster in RT at 1440p, while 20% slower in raw perf as you mentioned. It uses 15% less power than a 7900 XTX while being 20% slower, wow so efficient.
that's only a horrible stat if you are only concerned about ray tracing - something polls show not to be the case for the vast majority of users
having only 12GB is a horrible stat that actually kills your performance at 1440p with RT enabled…. let alone 4k
if people were actually informed, they'd rather buy a 7900 GRE / XT than this capped 12GB card
@CrazyTachikoma: 4070ti super is 16 GB but.
it is NOT slower with RT on, its faster and that's without DLSS
it uses less power and runs cooler
if you turn on DLSS and frame gen AMD is not even close - and thats VS their top tier GPU
price is $1100 for Nvidia or $1090 for AMD or bit more for XTX
you throw in some editing and AI work and no one will buy AMD which shows by market share.
like I said, im not Nvidia fanboy but their cards are hassle free, they work well and are just better, whatever we like to admit it or not
they carry a price tag with this but its not that much more for all the extras you get
if you are happy just gaming on pure grunt, dont turn on DLSS or FSR, RT off then sure, buy AMD, why not
everything else its Nvidia all day long
@botchie: "if you turn on DLSS and frame gen AMD is not even close "
fsr 2 and 3???? sigh….
yeah you know nothing about AMD, just another nvidia fanboy
AI / rendering is for professional usage, I'm talking gaming / home use and for that the value of AMD is unbeaten
and for HTPC use (hdmi connected to a TV) it it much more stable / hassle free than nvidia
@CrazyTachikoma: your just not listening, you a kid or something?
i gave you the facts, you want RT, VR you would go for Nvidia - everyone knows this and its why they buy it
you want cheaper card that doesn't preform as well you buy AMD
its same as in CPU - AMD is now the king and its the most expensive CPU
Intel is cheaper and crapier alternative that uses more power and its not as efficient
wasnt always like that, AMD was the cheap product once and was playing catch up
those at the top command a higher price because they offer a better product
you can cry about it all you want.
@botchie: I'm a 37yo that has had over a dozen nvidia and radeon cards
"if you turn on DLSS and frame gen AMD is not even close "
you are writing bullshit or are just pure ignorant on AMD cards capabilities
20-30% better RT, a feature most don't even use, a useless gimmick that everyone not using a 4090 cannot really turn on without tanking frame rates, is not worth paying more for a card with less vram and lower overall performance, these are the facts, reason why I traded my 3080 on a 7900 xt
but the bias is strong, same as with intel cpus years ago, herd mentality that ignores what matters
@botchie: He's not even represented the 7900XT accurately here, in Techpowerup's review it's 20% slower on average, not 10%, which includes multiple AMD sponsored "RT-lite" titles, in the heavy RT games, the 4070TiS can easily be 50% faster (final framerate). Not to mention it's 2% slower at 'regular' graphics, not 20% - so many purposeful lies.
Reeks of AMD fanboy with the typical chip on their shoulder and actively downplay any advantage Nvidia might have and spruik any advantage the AMD card might have. It's frustrating and in my opinion and experience actively puts people off rather than getting them on board. If they just factually listed the differences and let people make up their own mind, AMD cards will sell themselves to suitable buyers.
@foxpants: yeah, he sounds unhinged but what can I do, I went from an AMD card to Nvidia a few times, every time I get the team green card it just runs better in everything.
I had 6800 xt, now upgraded to 4070ti super - the card is half the size and I dont even think it produces any heat, I can game for hrs and my room doesnt get hot which wasnt the case with AMD
playin stalker 2 now with DLSS and frame gen and getting 150 fps with no issues, cant tell its fake frames or upscaled
i tried without and game actually looks worse, not even counting its smoother with DLSS
I wish AMD was on par, but they are just not
HODL
$100 more than all time low
5090 32GB
5080 16GB
5070 Ti 16GB
5070 12GB
5090 and 5080 are being announced in 2 months with Blackwell arch upgrade + GDDR7 and for the 5080, there will be a minimum 30% boost which basically makes it a 4090 16GB
We all know nvidia is gonna nvidia/apple, and even if the 5080 is 20-30% faster (and at 4090 equivalent performance), it's sooo gonna launch at what will seem like absurd pricing. Pricing that will make most people question why they didn't just a 4090 1 year and half ago, for basically the same price, same performance, and 8gb more ram.
The main difference will be that the 5080 will come down over 3-6 months, and reach somewhat sane pricing, unlike what happened with the 4090 pricing.
If anyone can stand to hodl for another year, a probable 24gb 4080 ti would be a great idea to hodl for.
What about 6080 coming in 2 years, and 7080 and 8080 and ultimately 9090 Ti?
I heard 9090 Ti would be the fastest of them all.
confirmed, any part with a number over 9000 is OP FTW!!! LOL.
@RTX9090Ti You are probably just trolling me. But maybe you missed the point.
An extra 8gb of ram will add an extra few years to the cards longevity. And so it will be the first 80 card with a large jump in ram since the 1080ti. All while having a 80 card price (for whatever that is worth these days).
You will then watch 80 cards stagnate on 24gb for at least 2 further generations… While 16gb cards become borderline unusable (like current 8/10gb cards).
i.e. Nvidia is going to nvidia.
There is a reason the 1080ti is the goat. It took 3 generations for it to hit that (unusable) edge. All because it had a large jump in ram over the previous 80 card, while still being at a decent price point.
@metalslaw: Basically you can't beat Nvidia, their pricing would be to their benefit, not yours.
The idea of keep hodling is probably not the best if you already have the budget to upgrade, as there's no such thing as perfect timing unless you have crystal ball on when the particular type going to hit rock bottom.
Having said that if you had to choose between 4090 or 5080 then 4090 is a clear winner as it has 8gb more vram, tho you most likely ended up with used 4090 as the brand new one probably no longer in retail by the time 5080 dropped in price.
Why no 5080 Ti?
the Ti cards are usually a mid cycle refresh / update to get those who were on the fence about upgrading.
Kinda, sometimes. Super variants are always part of the mid cycle refresh. Ti’s are dropped all over the place
the 3080 fiasco with 10gb, the Ti 12gb and the non-Ti 12gb. but then it was the ETH mining boom so the cards were most suited for ETH rather than gaming.
there is actually no need for Nvidia to even release anything better then 4090 and if 5090 is going to be RRP $2500 USD like they say and use 20% more power then its a card that shouldn't interest anyone
is the 4080 gonna be cheaper when the 50 series is released?
Damn well should be seeing ATLs at this stage of the game!
Supply chain limited by design to introduce the 50x0s. There doesnt seem to be the excess of stock so it may not happen.
i dont think anyone has bought these cards so there is a huge stock of them
its only a matter of time till price drops
4070ti s is $1100 and with 4080 you get approx 13 more fps in 4k and around 20 in 1440p which you cant actually see
better but 70tis and use extra cash for the 9800x3d
More than likely I'd be getting the 9900x and the 4070 Ti S
I've been looking for either the 4070 Ti S, or the 4080S.
These types of stores on eBay have Jacked their prices in time for this deal.
I've held off from buying because of this.
You'll find that the 4070 Ti S is roughly $100 cheaper and the 4080 S is about $70 cheaper than brick and mortar stores.
This should have been the full $300 less. On principle, i'd buy it from CPL Online.
huh
4070ti s is around $1100
4080 is $1500
there do you see $100 difference.
Cheaper than brick and mortar stores. Not comparison to each other.
4070Ti S - Ebay $1119, CPL $1238
4080S - Ebay $1529, CPL $1589
I've got a spare 3080 for my new build, I might just wait it out till 5000 prices stop giving people seizures when they see the prices.
3080 is still a very good card and it will last you next 2 years min - more if you play 1440p
You would have to be mad to be buying Ada Lovelace when the next gen is so close to release. Even if you were never going to consider Blackwell, what do you think is going to happen to Ada prices once the 50 series is out?? There is plenty of unsold stock of Ada sitting around (the fact that these deals keep cropping up suggests exactly that - we aren't in the RTX 30 series unobtanium world anymore).
lol, did this happen to 30xx series? no
30 series was a mess, there was never enough stock, people being put on endless waiting lists etc.
It certainly happened to the 20 series, where 2080 Tis got discounted like buggery in advance of the 30 series coming out. 40 series, like the 20 series, was overpriced from the get-go.
yeah nah - the 20xx were sold for huge price because Nvidia didnt have anything to compete with, before 30xx was announced AMD stepped in with their RDNA 2 which were comparable to 30XX and undercut their pricing so Nvidia dropped their price and screwed their customers who bought 20xx
we already know that AMD hasnt got anything to compete with in high end 50XX - heck even 40xx higher tier
leaks coming out already hint at 5090 being $2500 USD RRP so it means prices you pay for 40XX will stay around the same mark - you might get some cheap second hand one?
3080s are being sold $900-1090 for brand new, they are more expensive then 4070 super which is a faster card….
you work it out
I agree with you that you should definitely wait till blackwell releases but I don't think Ada prices are going to drop. I think blackwell will be significantly more expensive so that Ada will sell remaining inventory, then when blackwell gets the refresh line that's when we'll actually start seeing the prices on remaining Ada to drop. Time will tell though I suppose.
RTX4080 for $1500K or you guys can wait for RTX5080 $2500 (inc Aus Tech Tax)
You will get a bump in performance for $1K more, if you can get one
bump in performance at 4k?
it will be on par with 4090 and on par with price :)
if you game at 1440 p you just dont need these cards for years to come.
Agreed, I bought a Asus RTX4070TI 12GB and it was able to handle everything up to 4K with a breeze
HODL! 9090 Super XT Supreme GT Epic edition will be out in no time. Why spend money on a card now?
A RTX4070TI Super 16GB is definitely good value atm for $1100
Only sold my Asus RTX4070TI 12GB because of the 12GB VRAM, slower Memory Bus and cause the RTX4080 is almost same price as I paid for my RTX4070TI on launch
i am actually amazed by 4070ti supers, specially msi ventus 2x as its such a small compact card that performs so well and its very efficient on power and heat - things ppl here forget about.
nothing worse then gaming in summer when your computer makes your room 30C and sound like jet engine taking off, these things need to be considered too
Will the new generation of cards support connectivity to ATX 3.0 PSUs? Or will you have to get an ATX 3.1 PSU?
The cards are backwards compatible with older psu's, as the 12vhpwr and 12v-2x6 are pin compatible.
The 12v-2x6 just uses a tiny bit shorter plug to make it easier to fully seat, and it has a little longer pins, to ensure that more contact is made when mated (and thus less chance of overheating).
advice pls.. im using msi 7900xtx at the moment (1 yr), but thinking to replace it with 4080 or 4080s because nvidia upscaler is better (DLSS) vs FSR.
I want to achieve similar image quality but with more performance/fps using DLSS rather than native 4k.
good idea?
what's the fair value of 1 year-old 7900xtx in second hand market btw?
tia
Those cards are already basically equivalent. Youd ONLY be paying for the DLSS. Is that worth it to you?
I would wait for the 5k series.
Bought it with eBay gift card for extra 4pc discount
Can you link the deal pls?
Also, unsure if there is an additional discount for ebay plus. I believe it's capped at $300 off if anyone can confirm.