Wireless Headset Disconnecting 6 Weeks out of Warranty. Officeworks Refusing to Help under ACL

We have a JBL Quantum 810 headset. It's 6 weeks outside of warranty and has been disconnecting from both Bluetooth and usb dongle. My wife went to Officeworks with the receipt and they have said there is nothing they can or will do because it's out of warranty AND said that their computer system won't let them do anything since it is out of warranty. 2 different managers refused to assist any further and said that they can't override the system at all and wouldn't help her any further.

My wife did the whole ACL thing as the warranty is 12 months and for a headset that retails for around $350 (don't worry, we paid less than that), we expected it to last a lot longer.

My wife called the Officeworks Customer line, who didn't seem to really care and said they are more for online orders and that she had to deal with the store.

We have contacted WA Consumer Protection who have given the usual formatted bot response, saying -

Thank you for your recent complaint lodged with Consumer Protection. After an initial assessment, we believe that your complaint can be resolved by both parties communicating in good faith.

We have written to OFFICEWORKS and requested they contact you directly within the next seven business days to try and resolve your complaint.

OFFICEWORKS may request proof of purchase or other relevant documents from you to proceed with your complaint. Any documents that may have been attached with your complaint form have not been forwarded to the trader.

Any remedy agreed upon by both parties should be followed up in writing and an appropriate timeframe provided for the resolution to be finalised. Please reply to this email with information on the remedy you have received.

If, for any reason, it is not resolved, we encourage you to reach out to us by replying to this email. This includes situations where OFFICEWORKS fails to contact you within seven business days or if an agreement cannot be reached.

In such cases, the next step involves escalating the complaint to a Conciliation Officer who will make contact to offer guidance to both parties about their rights and responsibilities to resolve the complaint. You can find information about our voluntary conciliation service on our website: www.commerce.wa.gov.au/publications/complaints-and-conciliation-guide-consumers.

We also welcome your feedback on our Early Intervention complaint process. We invite you to complete the online survey here.

Please do not hesitate to contact our Call Centre on 1300 304 054 for general advice.

Are we being unreasonable about pushing ACL with the headset?

Our other concern is how Officeworks computer systems seem to be designed to deny our rights under ACL, especially if it's true that the managers can't override it in this type of case. If there's any Officeworks managers in here, is this true?

We just want a replacement and realise that we'd have nothing further after receiving it, which is fine by us.

If anyone has any other useful suggestions, please let me know, otherwise we're just waiting to see if Officeworks calls at all.


update 22/11/24 - Yesterday my wife got a call from the store manager of Officeworks listed on the receipt. He'd received the email from Consumer Protection WA and offered to give us a new headset. We went down there after she finished work and got a new one and the manager we spoke to said/confirmed when asked, that the warranty for the new headset starts from yesterday. Let's hope this one lasts a lot longer.

Also, it is now confirmed that the other managers who said the Officeworks system couldn't be overridden, flat out LIED to my wife's face. So, FYI to anyone else that may deal with Officeworks with this sort of thing, that they can override it, no matter what they say.

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Comments

  • +6

    Just buy another pair and return the bad ones in lieu of the new ones.

    • face palm
      SMH, yep, should have just done that…dang

    • +1

      Agreed, we can both play dirty.

    • The item is in re-saleable condition, including its original packaging (if any), is unused and as sold

      I wouldn't do it.

    • +3

      You shouldn't need to commit a crime to get what is rightly yours by law though.

        • +4

          ACL overrides warranty. Different products have different levels of expected life. A $350 headset should last a lot longer than 15 months if looked after.

        • +3

          The only time the retailer becomes responsible for honoring the warranty by law is when the manufacturer no longer exists

          Following quoted text is from ACCC "Warranties and Refunds - a guide for consumers & business"

          Who must provide a remedy?
          Sellers – Each sale is a contract between the seller and the consumer.
          So if the seller breaches the contract by providing goods that do not meet a statutory warranty or condition, it is their responsibility to provide a remedy.
          If a seller has to return goods to a manufacturer for assessment or repair, the seller should arrange delivery.
          The law allows sellers to recover the cost of the remedy from the goods’ manufacturer or importer, if the problem was related to a manufacturing fault.

        • HeWhoThinksHeKnows lol

  • +4

    Are we being unreasonable about pushing ACL with the headset?

    Absolutely not, I'm going to be pushing ACL for my fridge and it's 2 years out of warranty.

    • +1

      Thanks. I saw your post not long after finishing mine.

      Hope yours works out for you!

    • -4

      Just because you are doing that doesnt make it reasonable.

      And 2 years out of warranty is a tall ask!…ie unreasonable

      • You’re clearly clueless about your rights as a consumer if you think a fridge lasting less than 4 years is reasonable.

  • +1

    I had problems with an ACER laptop purchased from Officeworks.

    Worst, couldn't give a damn after sales support 6 months after purchase. Had to fight for 4 months to get a fix.

    Officeworks is fine for a consumable like the odd lead pencil, never again for any consumer durables!

    • -8

      Officeworks, nor any retailer is resposnible, nor obligated for honoring any warranty.

      They simply offer to handle the claim as part of thier customer service.

      Its the importer/manufacturer that is responsible for any warranty claims

      Legally the item must be returned to the manufactuer for any warranty claim.

      Read the terms of any warranty!

      None say to return it to the place of purchase.

  • +1

    Your request is very reasonable as we expect headsets to last longer. Have you tried JBL? I understand it's OW's problem according to ACL, but sometimes contacting the company (brand) directly can be more fruitful. BOSE was quite amazing to deal with when I had warranty claims in the past, not sure about JBL.

    Also, have you tried to register the headset (https://www.jbl.com.au/support-warranty.html)? Sometimes registering gives you extended warranty.

    • Yeah I emailed them as well. Got a bot response email from them as well, which showed they hadn't read my email. Replied and waiting to hear back again, but not holding my breath with them.

      • +1

        I doubt the ACL even read the complaint and certainly have not made any determination

        Good way to show you have absolutely no idea what ACL even means - please stop repeating this blatantly wrong opinion.
        Maybe spend a minute or two on the ACCC site to maybe get a little bit more educated on the subject.

        • +1

          Some of the stuff he opines is so egregiously wrong, I sometimes wonder if he is trolling.

          • @jackspratt:

            I sometimes wonder if he is trolling.

            There is no doubt in my mind - nobody could be that blatantly wrong unless deliberate.
            There's a few on here that just try to annoy/abuse/inflame/troll (whichever word fits better) that, for some reason, are left to do it unimpeded.

  • +1

    ACL isn't enforced by the cops or fair trading, you need to take action to ensure your rights are respected.
    A seller's main strategy to avoid ACL claims is to drag their heels and say there is nothing they can do.
    You might find if you explain you need the store manager's name and details for your NCAT (I see you are in WA so it is magistrates court, I think) dispute paperwork they could be more responsive.

  • +3

    Lodge a fair trading complaint, this will start mediation.
    Make it clear you’re willing to go to tribunal if it’s not repaired/replaced under warranty.

    I’ve never had to actually go to tribunal before though, most companies fold at this stage.

    • +1

      Yep fair trading or send a letter to them threatening to take them to the Administrative Tribunal in your state.
      I've found that even lodging an application with the tribunal nearly always gets them to respond in a more favourable manner

    • +4

      Can you please shut up. You’ve spouted so much misinformation in one thread. You have no idea what you’re talking about so stay in your lane.

    • https://business.gov.au/legal/fair-trading/australian-consum….

      If your business sold a product or service to a consumer, you cannot refuse to help them by sending them directly to the manufacturer or importer for a remedy. This applies even where the fault was caused by the manufacturer.

    • +1

      If you bothered reading the warranty statement of any item you purchased, you will see that the goods must be returned to the manufacturer at the purchaser's cost

      If you bothered to read the legislation in the country you lived in, you’d realise you’re full of 💩, as per usual.

      Infact, it’s so well known that if a business told me this BS, I’d seriously consider filing for pecuniary penalties for unconscionable conduct, in addition to any remedies I was seeking.

      • ….I’d seriously consider filing for pecuniary penalties for unconscionable conduct,…

        You're just making stuff up.

        • Pecuniary penalties are a thing for certain contraventions of the act

          Schedule III, Part 5-2

  • +3

    Officeworks are shocking.
    Strike hard, strike fast, no mercy!!

  • Have you fully charged the headphones and updated any drivers?

    There is some helpful things to try on the internet at

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/jbl-he…

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