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Yeah but how much will 5080/5070 be price jacked haha
And I want to build soon! And ill need a waterblock!
FYI if you are looking to buy this, this specific card doesn't have a dedicated WB that would fit it as far as I'm aware. Wasn't able to find anything straight-cut online about whether a reference-sized WB would fit this and I'm assuming this isn't 1:1 to a reference PCB.
Yeah not this model for me but if I remember correctly most 4080 supers are reference PCB… definitely needs double and triple checking though lol - the absolute pain of watercooling
Jacked up to $9090…
Would the planned tariffs in US affect us at all outside there?
I'm sure Nvidia will jack prices up but would their tariffs make it worse?
If Nvidia were to pay tariffs on imports to the US, they would most likely want to offset that profit loss with price increases in otherwise uneffected reigons to make up for it, especially because they would easily get away with it with no competition.
However there is no actual plan or date attatched to the proposed US import tariffs yet so nobody will know anything specific for the time being.
All specs excluding the 5090 look underwhelming and absolutely not worth the money for a small incremental increase in performance. Nvidia is cucking us all. They only significantly increased the power of the highest priced card.
And 5090 sucks 550watt. If you don't go bankrupt buying it you'll definitely go bankrupt paying the electricity bills.
are you able to share the source? I'm thinking to sell my 4090 before the launch of the 5000 series card
How is the specs foe the 5090 underwhelming? Lol it looks like it will be at minimum 50% better than the 4090. The price om the otherhand makes the specs useless lol
All specs excluding the 5090
Reading comprehension????
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January: 16 GB RTX 5080 ($1700ish, hopefully cheaper), 32 GB RTX 5090 ($3400ish, not worth it for gaming)
February: 18 GB RTX 5070, maybe 24 GB RTX 5080 (3GB GDDR7 chips)
March: 12 GB RTX 5060
Possible at this stage that RTX 5080 will launch with 24 GB after the entire line-up has been effectively delayed 3 months due to enterprise Blackwell design issue and related chip demand.
$1700 RRP on the 5080 is a pipe dream. And if even if it were to happen, if the 5080 performs considerably better than the 4080 there'd be such high demand at that price that the RRP would be unobtainium and we'd see retail prices over 2k.
Intel and AMD are basically all launching in the same time frame, and attacking the midrange. The 5080 is basically half the chip size of the 5090 - but probably 60-67% of the performance - to account for the fact that consumers cannot afford these silicon prices, and that intense level of competition that will exist in the sub-$800 USD market.
There's every possibility a 16 GB RTX 5080 could actually be considerably cheaper, it will just come down to what new hardware features they have that the competitors don't. I'd imagine a 24 GB model would come in at around $100-$150 USD more expensive (before tax & additional logistics/retail overhead).
For example, if NVIDIA have done something with frame generation that removes the latency penalty, that would allow them to price their cards significantly higher if AMD and Intel haven't done similar.
By the time we're into March, enterprise 4nm demand will be winding down and NVIDIA's next enterprise offerings using TSMC 3nm will be announced, which means more and cheaper fab space for consumers. Then over time you're seeing more silicon fab plants open across the world to boost supply again.
It's the 5090 that will have absurd pricing, because of how difficult the chip will be to make, and the performance it will offer for small business, labs, and people crunching AI workloads at home.
@jasswolf: I appreciate your knowledge and reasoned argument, but I'm afraid I just don't agree that we'll see the 5080 under $AUD 2k, let alone under $1700, at launch or the weeks following.
But if I'm wrong, I'll:
a) excitedly rush out and buy one; and
b) come back to this thread and humbly eat my words. :)
yeah, but then the drama is delay, shortage and rrp is low + rocket high price from retailers …
HODL!!!
How long? I need a new PC and want to pull the pin… now. Or just HODL for GPUs?
5000 series are just weeks away.
Don't bother. These HODL comments are so stupid. If you want to save money get a 4xxx after the inevitable price drop. The 5xxx series (excluding 5090) are a disappointment spec wise.
Computer Parts Land also had this card listed for $1579. Fake sale price at Scorptec.
I was a HODL’er but I caved and have been enjoying my upgraded graphics since early February 2024.
Prices haven’t moved that much since I got it.
nVIDIA is and will take you for every dollar in your wallet, while paywalling the performance to cards it can charge a premium for.
It's more that the production cost of the silicon isn't shifting because of all the demand for AI acceleration at the enterprise level, so retail stock levels stay low and price levels stay high despite lukewarm consumer demand. At this point they've actually stopped producing anything for consumers but the smallest chip in the line-up (AD107), and the 4090 and 4080-related chips (AD102 and AD103) have been gone for a while now.
Overall consumer pricing can't remain like this without consequences, so don't subscribe or pay for crappy AI services and it will eventually crash back to earth a bit. NVIDIA will remain fine as a company because production volumes will continue to increase over the next few years, but we - as consumers - will see the greatest benefits.
Throw in Intel and AMD line-ups launching at the same time - now both with capable AI acceleration and RT functionality - and you've got a recipe for an amazing mid-range battle. It'll get even more competitive again when the enterprise demand shifts over to TSMC 3nm in H2 2025.
At this point just hodl, the price isn't that much better given time from launch and the new cards will have at least one value king and that card is almost guaranteed to have more performance than this card.
and then 6000 series out, then 7000, 8000, and 9000s.
At the absolute latest, NVIDIA will be showing off the 5000 series at CES, which is the first week of January (their keynote date and time has already been announced).
You'll see the 5090 and 5080 launch 2-3 weeks after that. Originally it was all supposed to be about September-October, but enterprise design and demand issues created a delay. The comments saying to wait are justified when it's 8-9 weeks away in this price bracket.
When is cyber Monday? Today?
2nd of December, but you'll see some Black Friday sales kicking off later this week despite the day itself being the 29th.
These prices … So glad I picked up a 6800xt when they're were clearing out at $800. NVIDIA can shove that pricing where the sun don't shine.
you are better off with $1100k 4070ti, its gets all the DLSS 3.0 +, its great for VR, ray tracing
i have 6800xt and its a great card for 1440p but not if you want to use RT, or any other fancy stuff
i dont get 4080 cards, they are marginally better then 4070ti s in 4k, in 2k its 20 fps which is not noticeable at all
why would you buy this card? for 4 k gaming and you cant afford 4090? then why just not game in 2k for what you dont need this card
Some thoughts:
If you're talking about the 4070 Ti Super vs the 4080 Super, then yes, pretty much everyone agrees with you but it's a moot point because they're probably the only 4080 and 4070 Ti variants with decent stock levels at this point.
If you're wanting to do any AAA gaming in VR, 4K with good graphics going forward, or even at QHD for something like path tracing, you want at least 14GB of VRAM, and that may shift up again with a couple of DLSS features (but hopefully back down again with some yet to be implemented hardware features).
But the 5070 and up will all have at least 16 GB of VRAM anyway, so eh.
i was comparing the super variants yes, everywhere I looked 4070ti s is only marginally weaker then 4080 and at 1440p its not even noticeable as its in that range where you cant see it.
heck I would even say in 4k its not significantly noticeable and the card runs cooler, on less power and its quietr
The 4070 Ti Super uses the same AD103 chip as the 4080 line-up, it's just slightly more cutdown on the chip itself. Same VRAM count, that's why you're seeing a better performance comparison.
The 16GB VRAM count currently makes a difference at 4K when you're pushing graphics, but there are technologies that have not been implemented which will reduce VRAM usage, and there will likely be more again with next-gen GPUs.
@jasswolf: yep hence my question, who and for what purpose would want a 4080s? - it seems like we didnt need this card in the lineup
maybe if you want slightly better 4k but cant afford 4090?
@jasswolf The 5070 leaked specs show it being 12GB. This is Nvidia, you know they want to keep ram low so people either buy the next card up or people that end up buying it have to upgrade much sooner lol
GDDR7 has the option of 3GB chips instead of the 2GB option being used in most GPUs today, so that allows for 18GB on a 192-bit bus, and said 3GB chips will be in full production at that point.
Given the card is going to be well and truly 4K capable (4080 performance), there's a strong argument for only buying the 18GB version if there are two.
But the new AI texture tech coming in with this generation may reduce VRAM usage massively, so don't quote me!
Is the 5000 series even worth the wait for me? i game at 3440x1440p but only really play CS,TF2 and the occasional COD lol running a RTX 2070S atm, barely hitting 100 fps on low lol
so, that's what I have been asking myself and came to conclusion that 4070ti will do - then if by some miracle in 2 years 4090 is cheap I will buy that and upgrade - 4090 for this resolution will last easy 5 years.
no new games have come out or will come in the next few years that will push a 4070ti - not when 3060is about whats in the consoles.
That's not the equivalent GPU for consoles - for better and worse - and that doesn't account for the PS5 Pro, or an expedited next-gen console from XBox (2026).
might just settle on a 4080S, waiting to see if there is any white ones for sale on Black friday or cyber monday. the 4080S should last me a couple years
Stock is dwindling as nVIDIA have stopped making the dies for the 4080/4090s. Next on the chopping block are the 4070s.
Have a look at RTX Remix to see what it will be able to do better for old games, but I'd imagine you'll eventually want to play other titles, even if they're live service only. The 5080 will push pathtracing much better, will hopefully offer a frame generation implementation that is actually useful for competitive gaming.
At about the same price, why not wait 2 months? This has only gone down $200ish since launch, it's just not worth the outlay right now.
And all of that is without considering that you'd surely want to upgrade your monitor at some point… or even just plug your PC into your TV for some more cinematic titles.
I told myself the same thing before the 4080S launched hahaha just wait. starting to get impatient, will wait if no good deals pop up on black friday or cyber monday
If you're buying now, the 4070 Ti Super is way better value, but I can imagine you might be kicking yourself about the hardware features you'll miss out on.
Blackwell is a major redesign.
@jasswolf: just on the fence, really want to upgrade but thinking to wait for 5000 but will need to upgrade PSU at that point as well as i dont think a 650W will be sufficient anymore lol
Still $1579 at CPL.
HODL! RTX 5000 series less than a month to go (in the new year)