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              • @Tythefly86: yep 100% but the stupid people like to neg actual facts and say sh4% like "you can't say that about kamala because I love her" So just completely brush aside all of her wrong doings and blame trump…. lol that's the mind of these people they don't' understand what's going on.

                • @kungfuman: @Tythefly86: yep 100% but the stupid people like to neg actual facts and say sh4% like "you can't say that about kamala because I love her" So just completely brush aside all of her wrong doings and blame trump…. lol that's the mind of these people they don't' understand what's going on.

              • -2

                @Tythefly86:

                Why would Bill Gates give the democrat party 50million dollars? Possibly because he was on planes with Epstein more than any other Billionaire and is likely involved in the island of debauchery. Trump wants to expose the Epstein client list, along with declassifying many other important secrets of the government.

                You can't be this naive or gullible. Trump was friends with Epstein and is on multiple flight logs.

        • Yes, let's put Elon Musk in charge of government efficiency. The guy who spent US$44 billion dollars buying Twitter for way over its value, then trying to weasel out of the deal, before finally buying it and destroying over 60% of the company's value in the first year.

          Yes, make the guy who told advertisers to "go f___ yourself". And they did, pulling advertising off his platform, after which he protested and said it was unfair they followed his instruction.

          This is indeed the guy I want overseeing government spending in the USA.

          • -3

            @Cluster: Just playing the devil’s advocate here, he didn’t claim that this was a financial decision per se. He wanted to have a platform that was somewhat free of Operation Mocking Bird’s operatives, free of CIA’s moderation and place where the next Hunter Biden story wouldn’t be suppressed so a Joe Biden could get elected.

            Now the fact that these elections rn are even close, giving Trump somewhat of a chance against Kamala, its largely in thanks to Twitter.

            In more sinister language - it’s possible that Musk was able to decide the next president for just $44 billion.

          • @Cluster: Dude is the richest man in the world idiot, it's undeniable that he's better with money than you and anyone else in the world hahaha. He bought twitter to save freedom of speech online, not to make money he doesn't need lol. We won! Suck it loser!

      • +2

        if you look at all the full unedited videos and evidence it is very clear the criminal charges were all politically motivated alot of the so called charges have been dropped the ones that stuck are in repeal, again look at what is happening don't just believe what the media tells you. It amazes me how many people seem to not want to do this? And then there is biden, the hunter biden story people don't' want to know about, and you think Kamala is innocent to? they are all Felons, but hey lets just say one guy did it all. Or Russia because we all like to blame russia for everything.

      • Oof, sucks to lose :)

    • +2

      Definitely some TDS in here

  • +16

    Now because this happens to be an anti-Trump piece, you wouldn’t see any of the usual Libs complaining, crying and false reporting/negging this post for being about American politics or leaving passive aggressive comments like “where’s the bargain” and “we don’t care about American politics” etc etc
    Typical libs.

    • +15

      They getting desperate now, trying all the hit pieces to get some votes.

      • +17

        The media rn is as desperately crazy as I have ever seen them to be.
        What’s next, they’ll try to take him out or something? Oh wait…

        • +15

          Who'll try to take him out? Two registered Republicans? This is what happens when you reside in a country with more guns than people in it.

            • +7

              @Farticus: Send me a respected source claiming otherwise. Otherwise I'm just relying on the voices in your head.

              • -2

                @kiriakoz: It's a well known fact that Democrat nutters register as Republicans with the delusions of messing with the GOP Primaries.

                • +12

                  @dins: It's a well known fact that you need to send me a respected source explaining that these people were Democrats and that it's some kind of co-ordinated attack. After all, the original claim is that "they" are trying to take him out. I presume that "they" means Democrats.

                  Claims like that do actually require evidence and I'll believe you. Otherwise, I'm just taking the word of people I've never met before on a bargain website.

                  • +3

                    @kiriakoz: It's called stochastic terrorism.

                    Thomas Matthew Crooks

                    He was a registered Republican but he donated to Democrat-aligned Act Blue.

                    Ryan Wesley Routh

                    Routh was once a registered Democrat in North Carolina, but more than two decades ago, he switched his party to “unaffiliated” according to voter records and a North Carolina county election official. He is also an active registered voter in Honolulu, but in Hawaii choosing political party affiliation is not part of the voter registration process.

                    Search on twitter or Google it.

                    • +4

                      @dins: What you said is correct, but inconclusive. Focussing on Crooks (his is the case I know best), he donated $15 to ActBlue in Jan 2021, he registered as a Republican in September the same year. Much of his views are antisemitic and anti - immigration, which broadly speaking betray right leaning tendencies.

                      It's still a million miles away from showing a political conspiracy by the Democrats to assassinate Trump. Now, we don't know a lot about him and it could be that more will come out which shows it was a conspiracy and I'll happily concede it because I'm fair minded. And that would be a big deal.

                      It's what human beings do - they seek out patterns, and they identify with the ones that show that their side is being treated unfairly by the other side and ignore everything else. I'm sure it has an evolutionary benefit because so many of us do it (myself included at times).

                      • @kiriakoz: Whether the shooters had handlers or not they know exactly what they're doing when they keep repeating Trump is Hitler and he's going to imprison opponents and become some sort of a fascist dictator.

                        Stochastic terrorism.

                        • +3

                          @dins: Don’t use Hitler style language if you don’t want to be compared to Hitler.

                        • +2

                          @dins: Anyone can compare anyone with anyone. They do need to explain why and prove it. I would prefer they compare an aspect of someone with an aspect of someone else.

                          For example, to say Trump's rhetoric is similar to Hilter's would be indisputable. He literally said that "immigrants were poisoning the blood of the country" which is almost word for word what Hilter has previously said.

                          Having said that, it's a small part of what he's said, some of what he's said I agree with and other stuff I definitely don't. Lifting a quote from someone isn't really that helpful because it elevates that one line and ignores everything else. It does scare people and creates a caricature of someone. That's the reality of social media and the 24 hour news cycle, so not specific to Trump or either side though.

                          I mean right wing media has painted Kamala as a communist, a marxist and Trump regularly calls her nuts, evil and stated that she will destroy their country. He's said she's the anti - Christ and the devil. She's letting in immigrants to replace his supporters. Don't tell me in a country with such lax gun rights that these words are harmless. Kamala gets death threats daily (which I'm sure Trump does too). The issue with Crooks is that the Secret Service did a terrible job in protecting Trump, but there are crazy people on both sides and demonisation on both sides too.

            • @Farticus: The fact that Republicans are quiet about it is enough proof the shooters are Republicans

              • -1

                @Caped Baldy: Wow that's your evidence? What a nuffy 😂😂

                • @Farticus: What's the proof that it wasn't?

                  Trump himself seems awfully quiet about it.

          • @kiriakoz: Think I heard that first on CNN

          • @kiriakoz: Hahaha, they weren't true Republicans, they registered to get info about them. You know, research the person you want to eliminate lol. Don't be an example of main-stream media brainwashing lol. Do some actual research and you'll find they both hated Trump and were not Republicans. The second guy tried to recruit soldiers to fight in the Ukraine war that Republicans want to stop lol. Guns aren't the problem either genius. Funny how there's nowhere near as many school shootings or presidential assassination attempts in places such a Switzerland and they have very high gun ownership too, near 30%. Get your facts straight before you start blaming guns. People kill people, not guns. Kamala and her hard left woke democrats compare Trump to Hitler and say democracy is at risk. That stupid rhetoric encourages the morons in the public to try and kill him. Funny that heaps of democrats complained about the assassination failure and wished that Crooks didn't miss yet their party tries to remove gun rights. Ironic actually. I for one, celebrate that Crooks missed and often listen to a song making fools out of those who wish he succeeded. Democrats are ironically more alike Hitler than Trump will ever be. Democrats censor and Republicans fight for free speech and your right to disagree: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL9apblSQ-s

            • +2

              @Tythefly86: I DON'T trust mainstream media, but nor do I trust crackpot selective conspiracy theories from people on the internet, that's the point. It's not an either or scenario. None of what you said points to a Democrat plot either, which was the original claim. It's a huge claim, and huge claims require a decent amount of evidence.

              Also, Switzerland has a gun ownership of 27.6 guns per 100 people. USA has 120.5 per 100 people. That's a massive disparity. I don't think those countries are comparable in any way. But you are right in that guns aren't likely the only factor. Although we'll never know because America has so many more guns than any other country, that it's hard to compare in any way. Don't tell me to get my facts straight when you're comparing two incomparable countries.

              I don't think either side is anything like Hitler, but Trump's rhetoric has been at times. Although, as mentioned, the focus on this is pretty ridiculous as though it's the only thing he says in his rallies. It's more a result of the 24 hour news cycle as that's what gets clicks and views, I guess.

              • @kiriakoz: Who said I trust crackpot theories? I never said it was a Democrat conspiracy to kill him, I just said it was the dumbass public believing the democratic rhetoric that their democracy is at risk and trying to kill him. I go by evidence and there is no evidence for the assassins being legitimate republicans like a few have claimed here. There is however tons of evidence of the Democrat leaning media lying through there teeth to make Trump look bad and I do not see that from the Republicans. Everything Vance and Trump has said about Kamala and Biden in this campaign has been truth. The fact Kamala cant do an unscripted interview without making a fool of herself should tell you she is more of a puppet than a leader. Check out the most recent lie LMAO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjQMmPKpIH8

              • -2

                @kiriakoz: As far as Trumps rhetoric being like Hitler. WTF are you talking about? Trump was referring to illegal immigrants, not the legal ones. Hitler was referring to all immigrants. You have 4 years already as an example of Trump in leadership with no rights of anyone lost, no new wars and the economy flourishing. Big threat to democracy hey (rolls eyes). he's the only one fighting for voter id and a fair election which would be true democracy!

                • +3

                  @Tythefly86: Try to read a balanced media diet and you'll realise ALL the points you've made have massive fallacies, I genuinely can't be bothered replying to them if you can't be bothered looking at basic arguments which contradict your opinions.

                  My advice to you is if you have an opinion, do research on points or media that go against your opinion. Try to do so with an open mind. If you still think what you thought before, keep thinking that, that's fine.

                  I mean that with all sincerity because I've tired of replying in this thread to extremely basic unthinking non - critical arguments.

        • +2

          I guess they are scared of the Epstein files or diddy tapes becoming public…

      • +2

        Watch this from 18:55 onwards (and if you have time, watch all of it)

        https://www.youtube.com/live/SYELICsKyEo?si=U4FP2bMT-Z_JZhZ6

        • +2

          Election ad for harris. Days of jornalists reporting the news instead of their ideological opinions are over.

        • -1

          Good post. I saw this earlier today. The main-stream media are incredible liars. If you right click the video at the time you can link it at the specified time and save people scrolling to the time slot you want: https://youtu.be/SYELICsKyEo?t=1135

          • @Tythefly86: What is also incredible is that the video barely has 27k views. You would think that it would have more given WaPo is a rabid left wing mouthpiece but no. On the other hand, Trump's interview with Joe Rogan, a 3 hours podcasts has 43mn view as of today!

            • +1

              @dealsucker: It has more views elsewhere. I personally saw it on Liberal hive mind which has about 10x the views but it doesn't matter, it's all views from people who already know the main-stream media are corrupt liars so it won't help expose it. Especially when Youtube/Google actively try to hide this content from trending pages and searches. Unbelievable that they hid the Rogan podcast when it had more views than any other video on the trending list lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjQMmPKpIH8
              I honestly wish I was giving Rumble links but unfortunately most creators still primarily use youtube. I wish more creators put morals over money and ditched Google/YT.

      • Those some votes will change the course of history.

    • +5

      Libs? The Liberals? Why would the liberals be complaining about this? Actually what's the relevance? Wouldn't the party be more aligned with the republicians?
      t

      • -3

        Hmm, my post is reference to some historically pro-Trump posts.
        Libs (not liberals) in their usual deceit would neg/report those posts and endlessly attack the op for posting a non-bargain and urging Ozbargain to take it down coz they don’t want Ozbargain to be hosting any American political content.
        But you wouldn’t see them complain about this post because this post only confirms their bias.

        Btw 24 upvotes in - zero negs, zero false reports. There’s a clear behavioural correlation here when it comes to people who support/hate Trump.

        • +13

          Libs (not liberals) in their usual deceit would neg/report those posts and endlessly attack the op for posting a non-bargain and urging Ozbargain to take it down coz they don’t want Ozbargain to be hosting any American political content.

          Pro tip : These people are not Libs. They're just normal Australians 🤷🏼‍♂️

          Are you in the USA or something ?! It's slightly weird to complain about the lack of tolerance for American politics in an Australian bargain forum.

          You're absolutely right that pro-Trump content doesn't usually go down well - because what else would you expect to happen, on this site that is infact OzBargain ?

        • You didn't answer my question? I now realise that you were talking about the 'liberals' in USA, so not only you failed to address my question (as I asked how the Liberals party has to do with anything with Trump), you also got distracted and introduced strawman arguments and bragging about your upvotes. I shudder at the thought of talking to you in person, because who the heck has conversations like that?

          • -2

            @n3dd:

            I now realise that you were talking about the 'liberals' in USA

            Wrong

            Libs (not liberals)

            ^^^
            Already said this above.
            I didn’t type ‘liberals’ but you keep mistaking ‘libs’ to the liberal party??

            And funnily you claim to have misunderstood me talking about the liberals (Au) and then you yourself brought up Republicans(USA) in your comment from yesterday.
            In all your genius, you somehow think that I was referring to an American political party and the Australian liberals at the same time?

            Best thing - I didn’t even bring up any political parties per se.

            you also got distracted and introduced strawman arguments and bragging about your upvotes

            I was talking to someone else, you interjected, I didn’t have enough care to give you my full attention.

            Also, what upvotes did I brag about?
            Are you seeing things?

            shudder at the thought of talking to you in person, because who the heck has conversations like that?

            Hmm, look at the animosity with which you started off our conversation. I have never spoken to you before, you don’t know me but look at the way you have just come at me.
            Talking about irl? You’d get decked for talking to someone like this.
            How’s that for a shudder?

            • @Gervais fanboy: I can very much judge you for who you are based on your digital footprint (in this case, your rambling of the ever-so cursed libs - which you refuse to confirm that "libs'" is in fact an abbreviation of the American liberals, so why was I wrong about the 'libs' being American liberals?). I'm also free call out anybody in any way I like, it's my ability to exercise the freedom of speech in this country after all. I'd prefer not to get decked though!

              Also worth mentioning: "Are you in the USA or something ?! It's slightly weird to complain about the lack of tolerance for American politics in an Australian bargain forum." - Nom
              Have a nice day

              • @n3dd:

                I can very much judge you

                Nice, good for you

                "libs'" is in fact an abbreviation of the American liberals

                It is in-fact not coz I am a liberal myself,

                it's my ability to exercise the freedom of speech in this country after all. I'd prefer not to get decked though!

                100% its your right I agree, I didn’t neg you or urge you to not speak. Just told you that when you actually get out to talk to your fellow people irl like you do on the internet, there might be consequences. I am not wishing anything upon you as “l don’t even know you”.

                It's slightly weird to complain about the lack of tolerance for American politics

                I didn’t do that either.

                This is now the third instance of you being disingenuous.
                I understand that you didn’t know the relevance of the historic posts and conversations that I was referring to but instead of leaving it at that you have now resorted to filling in those blanks with some crazy false drivel and using that as an attack vector to come at me.
                Are you just desperately looking to pick a fight with me?

    • +34

      Alright I'll go first. This isn't a bargain. Since when does a Youtube video qualify as a deal?

      You also sound like you just really wanted to say something about 'the libs' which I have to agree is kind of odd given we are in AUSTRALIA. So yes, get all the US politics off OzBargain in my opinion.

      • +1

        Since when does a Youtube video qualify as a deal?

        I never said that it does.
        For the record - I have never once negged/false reported other people’s opinions.
        I was just trying to point out the hypocrisy of people that do.

        This is a community discussion piece and good on the Op for posting this.
        But only a certain a direction of opinions are allowed to be expressed here without an overwhelming cry for censorship.

        something about 'the libs' which is odd

        Well, it should only bother you if you believe that it was aimed at you.
        I only use it for a certain kind of authoritarian weaklings here who absolute hate it when I use it.

        • -2

          Well you are wrong. If it's a discussion you all want then here's a crazy thought, have it in the discussion forum!

          Censorship blah blah blah. This isn't a deal and usually none of the other political stuff posted on here is either. Oh is my neg triggering for you? Because it is simply in line with OzB policy.

          • -2

            @werdplaya58:

            want then here's a crazy thought, have it in the discussion forum!

            Okay but that wasn’t my point though.

            My point was - people who unfairly report legit discussion pieces that offend them, wouldn’t report this deal because they have no problem with the narrative on this one.

            I was pointing out people’s hypocrisy and not asking/urging anyone to neg/report this post. You are soo stuck in your ways, you can’t see the difference between the two.
            And you call me triggered? lol

            • +10

              @Gervais fanboy: I know it's not your point buddy.

              It is MY point.

              I get it, you want to have a keyboard war with the other side. That's great and I'm sure you're all revved up and ready to go.

              Some of us don't need or want to see another Imported American political bar fight that we see on just about every other website these days.

              There is even a place on this website dedicated for it, but no, you can't use the discussion forum, it has to be up here amongst the cheap SSDs and baby wipes. FFS give it a rest.

              • -2

                @werdplaya58:

                It is MY point.

                Okay ‘buddy’
                Post a fresh comment then and express yourself.
                Why reply to me with something that I never even alluded to.

                you want to have a keyboard war with the other side.

                Not at all,
                You replied to me and put words in my mouth about me somehow wanting/not wanting posts to be negged/censored.
                I never even said anything like that.

                You are soo mad rn that you can’t see clearly.

                Some of us don't need or want to see another Imported American political bar fight

                You : half a dozen comments in
                Also You : don't need a American political bar fight

                Mate, no one asked you to comment here. You could have just scrolled away.
                You decided to engage and now don’t act all uppity about it.

                • +4

                  @Gervais fanboy: LOL I'm all here for a bar fight about getting US politics off the Deals page.

                  Maybe not the particular fight you were looking for I guess.

                  I have already expressed my view about this deal in the form of a neg for being not a deal.

                  I'm also entitled to express my view that we don't need the tired old US political bickering in the deals posts. Since you seem to be defending this as a 'legit discussion piece' (your words out of your mouth) my comment is directed at you.

                  • @werdplaya58:

                    about getting US politics off the Deals page.

                    Would take much less effort for you to just scroll away.
                    Don’t tell others what they can/can’t do, let people discuss what they wanna discuss.

                    If this post is breaching ozb’s rules, mods can handle it.

                    I have already expressed my view about this deal in the form of a neg

                    Cool, I respect that 👍🏻

                    Since you seem to be defending this as a 'legit discussion piece'

                    Yup, imo it is and almost all American political posts are.
                    World economy gets directly impacted with USA’s leadership and policies.
                    We would have been paying much less for our petrol fuel right now, hadn’t been for the Nato proxy Ukraine-Russia war,

                    • +6

                      @Gervais fanboy: I'm actually not telling people what they can and can't discuss though.

                      I'm saying where to discuss it. if you don't care about bargains and just want a discussion, this site has a discussion forum.

                      Yes, I do think it is weird you and others are so fixated on US politics that you need it on a consumer bargain site.

                      Part of the problem is that the site obviously condones it for the clicks and traffic.

                      Correct, I could scroll by and usually do. But I shouldn't have to because that's not what this part of the site is for, and it's becoming more pervasive.

                      • -5

                        @werdplaya58: Lot of debatable points there that I don’t find to be accurate but there’s no end to this.

                        I’ll let you have the last say and bow out of this conversation. Nice chat, Gn.

      • +7

        It's free for a limited time, and I believe it's for sale and/or part of other paid streaming services.

    • -1

      Why aren’t you calling out all the people false reporting and negging this post?

      How about we stop pretending you can just lump people together solely on their political leanings? It used to be no one cared what your political leanings were in this country, now suddenly it matters how much you care about someone voted elsewhere.

      The number of attacks on people in this thread is disgusting. How about little civility?

      • -3

        Why aren’t you calling out all the people false reporting and negging this post?

        Shush
        Read all my comments first.
        I can’t ask every negger as to why they negged, I saw one below that was clearly a false neg imo.
        I challenged them, they haven’t replied yet.
        https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/15876284/redir

        Unlike your partisan bs, I am consistent. When was the last time you called someone out for something like this?

        now suddenly it matters how much you care about someone voted elsewhere.

        Yup, I have noticed a societal shift too.
        Anyways, I avoid getting into such topics coz at the end of the day, everyone’s entitled to their opinions and Ofcos I could be wrong about all of my mine.
        I only called out people for their disingenuous hypocritical outrage in the past.

        The number of attacks on people in this thread

        For instance?
        Btw it’s rich to see you of all people bring this point up.

        I remember the recent threads and comments where people were wishing that bullet hadn’t missed and that Trump should have passed away.
        Never saw you or any of your ‘mates’ say a peep.
        Not even a neg, I guess you were saving them all for me lol. Typical.

      • -1

        @freefall101,
        So you just lied, slandered and now you are gonna sneak away with your tail between your legs? I’d assume you are not gonna apologise either?

        No worries, just remember to keep this same energy next time. Weak.

        • It was the weekend, I decided to disconnect and marked any of my notifications as read. Sorry that doesn’t work for you.

          Apologies, I missed your post calling it out, good on you.

          I only called out people for their disingenuous hypocritical outrage in the past.

          People being “the libs”.

          That was my sole point. That’s not discourse.

          • -1

            @freefall101: You : It was the weekend, I decided to disconnect

            Also you : comes at me with absolute falsehoods on a Sunday.

            People being “the libs”.

            So that’s an attack? An ATTACK?
            Gotcha, coz ‘words are violence’. I hear you.

            Also, you did your snarky gotcha thing by asking me to call out wrongful negs(you got that wrong anyways), tell me when was the last time you did that?

            • @Gervais fanboy: My comment on attacks was in general in this thread, not targeted at you. Apologies, it was poorly worded. Tends to happen when I write crap early in the morning while I can’t sleep.

              The libs bit is about generalising, that’s all

              The rest of my Sunday was excellent, ignored replies, cleaned the bathroom, cooked steak. Apologies I apparently ruined your day.

              • -2

                @freefall101:

                attacks was in general in this thread

                Yeah I thought as much and that’s why I asked you about which comments/attacks were you exactly referring to.
                In response - you brought up my solitary example of saying ‘libs’.

                not targeted at you.

                But you only highlight me saying Libs.
                So you did target me right after?

                Apologies, it was poorly worded. Tends to happen when I write crap early in the morning while I can’t sleep.

                No worries bro, it’s….
                I am sorry to have acted all picky but at one point it’s just tiering to see people (like yourself) continuously come at me. Like atleast make a specific point with an example rather than be all so vague and misleading just so you could put me down without relying on anything factual,
                Anyways, it’s all cool now, I am sorry for my text above.

                The libs bit is about generalising

                Is it? How?
                Since I only ever use it whilst attributing a certain type of attribute or behaviour right next to it.

                If you understood what generalising really is, it’s like saying “all Trump supporters are garbage”. - Biden
                Or if I would have said that all Labour Party supporters are socialists.
                But i have never made generalisations like that.
                And now I would have to press you to quote me and give me an example.

                The rest of my Sunday was excellent, ignored replies, cleaned the bathroom, cooked steak

                Awesome

                I apparently ruined your day.

                🤦🏻‍♂️
                This is it, this is where you and I are different, you can’t help but be sneaky/snarky like this.
                Now imagine how much worse would you be if you were one of those textbook soy vegans.

    • But it is a bargain. It's a product, and the price has been reduced to zero.

      Complaining "where's the bargain" would be hypocritical.

      This suggests liberals are not hypocritical, and conservatives like you are.

      • But it is a bargain. It's a product, and the price has been reduced to zero.

        🤦🏻‍♂️
        I didn’t say that it wasn’t. I also think that this is indeed a bargain(technically).
        My intended point clearly went over your angry little head.

        Complaining "where's the bargain" would be hypocritical.

        Only complaining about that under posts that you don’t politically agree with is what makes it hypocritical.
        That’s what I was saying

        conservatives like you are.

        You can’t get anything right, can you
        What did I say that makes me a conservative?

    • sounds like you didn't actually watch it, because it is scathing against all parties and the money based structure of US elected officials

      Trumps initial appeal in 2016 was a claim to self fund, meaning immunity from this corruption,
      but that has changed he demonstrated he didn't use his money and relied on the same money donor sources as any other political party.

      Now a partnership with Elon Musk is an overt demonstration that this pipe dream of a politician without high levels of money influencing them is simply a fallacy

      • -1

        sounds like you didn't actually watch it, because it is scathing against all parties and the money based structure of US elected officials


        Anyways, I didn’t anywhere critique the content.
        Don’t even know what you are going on about

  • +9

    Epic , acclaimed, it did a massive $6.5m at the box office, someone clearly has an over inflated opinion of his own film, but orange man bad. baaaaa.

    Compare that to his Fahrenheit 9/11 film which did $222m 14 years earlier, the audience really was not interested in this one, maybe he meant Epic failure??

    • +5

      As noted, this caught "heat" in a literal sense because Harvey Weinstein was going to put up $2m out of $6 million budgeted and help with promotion in 2017, just before getting caught up in the #metoo allegations. (and also managing to duck his possible involvement in ABC/Miramax and then-teflon-coated Disney riding high with Star Wars and Marvel movies, P. Diddy and Epstein 'concerns' of the time. There's also the other donors for the movie, who don't appear in the credits.)

      Private funding helped get the movie out. This ended up pushing it late, right before the midterm elections, and people were suffering from success too much to be influenced by the rhetoric of the movie. It lost money in the box office with $6.4 million domestic, and sold off to streaming (Netflix) soon after. The movie was instantly forgotten for a few reasons, namely that it was a forgettable pseudo-sequel, dealing with the Great Failure of the American Ideals of the 70s to 90s.

      Trump Derangement Syndrome seems to fit. Like a lot of former celebs who aren't getting paid, he's doing his one-man Podcast/Substack.

      Or, the recent Avengers for Kamala video clip, or the Kamala Harris "Freedomtown" Fortnite map where you can't shoot anyone or destroy the town. There's just a desperation in doing this for attention or inclusion in the mess.

      (FWIU, Moore also railed against the Clinton/Obamas more recently, though… that's more of a recent thing with the vesting of Modern Twitter Politics and Identity Politics where you now have to condemn people for things "everyone" believed 10-20 years ago.) "Aclaimed" does a lot of heavy lifting.

      Hindsight can explain a few interesting developments and events, i.e. Leslye Hedland's sudden career in Lucasfilm and helping to fund The Acolyte TV series with a supposed cost of US $230 million… so far. That's not including the Second Season that is / was planned.

      Weinstein still has that Disney Money/magic. So, don't ask questions, Consume.

      • +2

        Not defending him, but making 1-2.4M on just domestic box office (6.4M) over budget (4-5M) sounds like an OK pay day for doing some editing and voice over work heh. I'm assuming it's gone on to make him a few more dollars in DVD sales, streaming etc. Not sure I'd call it losing money.

        • Except the cinema and distributor split the box office, so that 6.4m becomes 3.2m to them, so they lost 0.8-1.8m and that does not take into consideration any advertising expenses, likely to be another $1m+, if not more.

          • @rheags: Sure, but that's just domestic box office ignoring international, streaming, DVD sales etc. I'm sure he's better off financially after than if he hadn't done it.

        • most films particularly documentaries don't normally get theatre release so the box office release figures is broadly a strange argument to make .
          the rareness of any documentary getting theatre time in itself is a high level of success.

          Most films for last decade have relied primarily on home media and streaming as their primary measure of earning.

    • but orange man bad. baaaaa.

      Clearly haven't watched it. It's more about how nobody (even Republicans) expected Trump to win, and it explains how he did win.

      The movie criticizes both parties, and points out that Bernie Sanders was clearly the people's favorite for Democratic nominee, he clearly won the primaries and should have been the Democrat nominee, but the party overruled the results because he wasn't a "player", i.e. he didn't specifically toe the party line, he really did want to shake things up and cared more about the American people than his own ambition to become president. Hilary Clinton, on the other hand, was ambitious, was a warmonger, and deliberately toed the party line, was indebted to all kinds of donors, super-rich, paid millions to give speeches to big banks, etc. etc. So, after Clinton is declared nominee against the wishes of the public, it takes the momentum out of the Democrat vote because the Democratic Party is literally braindead at its core, just like the Republican Party. Trump has nothing like this happening on his side, nothing taking the momentum out of his campaign, so he ends up winning the election.

  • is there an official list of decent movies available on youtoobs?

  • +1

    Tears of soy. Worth watching for the first few minutes.

  • +3

    Another US propaganda. enough!

    • that is a strange thing to say,
      it was broadly negative about how the US is operating from the bottom up.
      not really the nature of propaganda to attack oneself

      • I read your name CSKA which is a Russian basketball team banned from EuroLeague because of Russian occupation. Israel occupies Palestine, the same EuroLeague has not banned Maccabi Telaviv, even Israel is not a European country. Like Eurovision. That's how propaganda works and how western is cynical.

  • +5

    I wonder if the admins don't take these posts down because they'd rather grab some popcorn for the comments…….. 🍿🍿🍿

  • +5

    Since when free YouTube video and especially 6-year old video has become a bargain?
    Should we start posting the links to thousands of other free videos?
    No deal.

    • +8

      It's free for a limited time, and I believe it's for sale and/or part of other paid streaming services.

      • +1

        So it was for sale but noone was paying for it. Then you make it free to get some attention (coincidentally at the time when the dems are desperate to get extra votes).
        Still not a bargain.

        • +10

          Lot of people would watch this documentary now but they didn’t when it was behind a pay wall.
          So technically this is a bargain/deal.

          Just because it’s not for you, doesn’t make it a non-deal.

          coincidentally at the time when the dems are desperate to get extra votes).

          To be fair that’s fair game coz the other side’s been posting a lot of anti-Kamala content too. Especially lately.

        • +2

          Sounds like a lot of the trash Steam games that get posted.

          • -1

            @sween64: yeah its sad that certain deal posters have become 'dealfluencers' who posted some random games that were just released <24 hours ago or were never good to begin with.

        • Now thru Election Day

  • +10

    When a 'documentary' becomes obviously politically biased and personally flavoured, it's just another propaganda.

    • +5

      Yep, Michael Moore isn't known for his impartiality.

      • +5

        It’s literally propaganda

        • +5

          Old propaganda video, free on YouTube. No deal.

          He should have adapted it for TikTok as 5-second "Trump bad" video, for some happy clapping from Kamala flock.

    • We'll start getting posts for Fox "News" soon

  • +4

    Thanks OP! I’ll definitely check this out, have liked some of his other work.

  • +2

    Propaganda.

  • +3

    Any biases aside, I really thought it was a mediocre film.
    It seriously just feels like its designed to profit off someones following, rather than a work of genuine passion.

    It definitely feels like a youtube video more than a regular "film" though. So it being free on youtube makes sense.

  • +4

    hope you will all share it with friends, family and anyone you know who is thinking about not voting.

    ummm being Ozbargain, I'm guessing most of us are thinking about not voting because we're not eligible.

    • +7

      Unfortunately we've been seeing more and more of the stupidity that is American politics seeping into Australia. And as such, more and more of that stupidity is coming to ozb.

      • that's true.
        It's disappointing that the loudest & most partisan on both sides are getting promoted & encouraged.

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