Ozbargains favourite sunscreen. If you missed the once a year half price from chemist warehouse deals ($13.99) this might be the next best price
Hamilton Everyday Face Lotion SPF50+ Finish Sunscreen SPF50+ 200g $16.80 @ Woolworths
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KnifeEnthusiastBoi on 27/10/2024 - 12:51 woolworths.com.au (700 clicks)
Last edited 27/10/2024 - 13:24 by 1 other user
Last edited 27/10/2024 - 13:24 by 1 other user
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Haha saw people post it up a few times, maybe it will become Ozbargains favourite sunscreen soon
I don't even know this brand for sunscreen and this is only for face …
Recently I bought Bondi Sands sunscreen (just wanna try this brand) half price at $14 for 500 ml from Woolworths with everyday rewards points worth $20 (2000 points). I got promo 1500 points when spend at least $0.01 each week for 2 weeks.
The consistency is similar to laroche posay and it's much cheaper, I've been using it for awhile and it's pretty good. It's tinted slightly
Not greasy nor sticky?
No at least not for me. Laroche posay feels a little bit more oily.
does it sting your eyes?
If it gets in your eyes, yes.
I haven't found any sunscreen that doesn't thoughWhy you need to put it in your eyes?
@HolyCr4p: When you put sunscreen close to your eyes especially sunscreen from home brand supermarkets, your eyes could feel hurt. I had this experience with Coles home brand.
I like Cancer Council brand for example as it doesn't hurt my eyes.
@neoleo: If I'm out for a long time and get sweaty during the day, the sweat can pick up some of the sunscreen and leak into the eyes. I have had this experience (stinging) with nearly every sunscreen but some are worse than others (like Neutrogena).
If that happens it's time to wash the area around the eyes with water
@HolyCr4p: At first I was giggling at the thought of someone putting sunscreen in their eyes, however I remembered having the worst experience with the woolies brand 1L tub thing when I put it on my eye lids…
Some sunscreen will burn your eyelids, it's horrible.
And all sunscreen will burn your eyeballs
Thinner and less pasty than LRP anthelios IMO
Also you can use it for the rest of your body but you might as well use a cheaper sunscreen for your rest of body… This one is slightly tinted but it's not like you can't use it..
Just a heads up this product contains ‘Octocrylene’ which is a known allergen, pollutant and potentially an endocrine disruptor.
Do your own research…
Do you have a source for these concerns? That would be helpful.
"Doing your own research" ends up with a whole barrage of information. If someone feels sufficiently concerned enough to share a warning, it would be helpful if the information that those concerns are based on are shared.
The 2021 study by the European Scientific Committee on Consumer Safety (SCCS) highlighted concerns about the chemical octocrylene, which is commonly used in sunscreens and other personal care products. Key findings include:
- Potential Endocrine Disruption: Octocrylene may interfere with hormonal systems, particularly impacting estrogen and thyroid hormone pathways. The SCCS found evidence that octocrylene could act as an endocrine disruptor, which raises concerns, especially for vulnerable populations like children and pregnant women.
- Skin Absorption and Bioaccumulation: The study showed that octocrylene can be absorbed through the skin and accumulate in the body over time, potentially leading to adverse effects due to long-term exposure. Once absorbed, octocrylene may be metabolized into compounds suspected of being even more harmful.
- Environmental Concerns: Octocrylene has been found to be toxic to marine life, particularly coral reefs. The study underscored environmental risks associated with its widespread use, as octocrylene residues can wash off and enter aquatic ecosystems, contributing to coral bleaching and other ecological impacts.
- Oxidative Stress and Aging: There is evidence that octocrylene, when exposed to UV radiation, can produce reactive oxygen species (ROS), leading to oxidative stress in skin cells. This process could accelerate skin aging and potentially contribute to cellular damage over time.
Based on these findings, the SCCS concluded that while octocrylene is generally safe at low concentrations, caution is needed, especially considering its potential for bioaccumulation and long-term hormonal and environmental effects.
Which brands do you recommend? Too many brands with this ingredient. This ingredient when exposed to UV radiation could accelerate skin aging, seriously …
Sounds a lot like how banana's are technically radioactive. Like yeah but its not going to kill you and eating a banana is better than starving to death.
There's a lot of "possibilities" and "maybes" and "suspected" with no long term conclusive results.
If you live in Australia and its very sunny outside, or summer time and you're expecting to be outside for hours on end, just wear sunscreen. Long term high index UV exposure will be worse for you than any random chemical applied externally for 1/3 of the days out of a year maximum sans piranha solution or magma
@Some Random Guy: Your analogy about bananas doesn’t work in this case, because there are plenty of sunscreens that don’t contain octocrylene.
And yes it is a lot of “potential” add “maybes”, but when there are other alternatives why would you risk it?
Do your own research…
The 2021 study by the European Scientific Committee on Consumer Safety (SCCS) highlighted concerns about the chemical octocrylene,
I did this is 3% Octocrylene. that paper/article you referenced is
https://health.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2022-08/sccs_o_249.…
says
On the basis of safety assessment, and considering the concerns related to potential endocrine disrupting properties of Octocrylene, the SCCS is of the opinion that Octocrylene is safe as a UV-filter at concentrations up to 10% in cosmetic products when used individually. Octocrylene is also considered safe for a combined use of sunscreen cream/lotion, sunscreen pump spray, face cream, hand cream and lipstick at a concentration up to 10%. However, the use of Octocrylene at 10% or above in sunscreen propellant spray is not considered safe for the combined use. 2. Alternatively, what is according to the SCCS the maximum concentration considered safe for use of Octocrylene as a UV-filter in cosmetic products? The use of Octocrylene in sunscreen propellant spray is considered safe when its concentration does not exceed 9% when used together with face cream, hand cream, and lipstick containing 10% Octocrylene.
As usual a cooker has made up stuff & scare mongering based on their inability to.read & actually comprehend actual science, cherry picking bits to.suit their disinformation campaign.
@M00Cow: So I assume you didn’t read my comment stating at concentrations lower than 9% it wouldn’t have short term negative effects
@M00Cow: Is this also cooker and fear mongering,
according to a study published in Chemical Research in Toxicology in March 2021, octocrylene can potentially become carcinogenic. The study found that octocrylene can degrade into benzophenone over time. Benzophenone is a chemical associated with carcinogenic, endocrine-disrupting, and toxic effects.
In particular, the research highlighted that benzophenone can accumulate within octocrylene-containing products as they age, increasing the risk for consumers who use these products regularly. Benzophenone has been linked to DNA damage and hormone disruption, which may contribute to its carcinogenic potential. This degradation process raised concerns about the safety of octocrylene in sunscreens and other personal care products, particularly with long-term exposure.
@yaozy: no, you reckon you got your info with no link from
I've just read the whole 49 page report, something I doubt you have done.
just skip to the conclusion on page 44
CONCLUSION 1. In light of the data provided and taking under consideration the concerns related to potential endocrine disrupting properties of Octocrylene, does the SCCS consider Octocrylene safe when used as a UV-filter in cosmetic products up to a maximum concentration of 10% (as acid)?
On the basis of safety assessment, and considering the concerns related to potential endocrine disrupting properties of Octocrylene, the SCCS is of the opinion that Octocrylene is safe as a UV-filter at concentrations up to 10% in cosmetic products when used individually.
** Octocrylene is also considered safe for a combined use of sunscreen cream/lotion, sunscreen pump spray, face cream, hand cream and lipstick at a concentration up to 10%.**
However, the use of Octocrylene at 10% or above in sunscreen propellant spray is not considered safe for the combined use.
this is 3%, not even close to 10%.
your mate's telegram account isn't scientific fact. and referencing a studies you haven't even read doesn't make you intelligent. quite the contrary
@M00Cow: My mates telegram account? Hahahaha. You are making things up to suit your argument. I already posted almost 2 hours ago that conclusion of a concentration lower than 9%, it doesn’t mean there isn’t a grey area with the safety long term of this ingredient
@yaozy: fairly evidently you haven't read the paper you've referenced because your claims are totally incompatible with the actual literature you claim to have researched.
it doesn’t mean there isn’t a grey area with the safety long term of this ingredient
there's absolutely no evidence of that. you're just using the classic whataboutism. Water is the most deadly chemical composition in the world…but it's also the most necessary to life.
Thanks for sharing.
It's always good to share a link to the original document that you are referring to, I note that MOOCow has kindly, and somewhat robustly (!!) shared it (and their opinions) below.
I had a look at the exec summary and it states pretty clearly that Octocyrlene is considered safe, at concentrations lower than 10%. So not quite sure where your concerns lie.
Two things however:
- it's not unprecedented for some substances to be freely manufactured/procured and sold that pose a risk to human health, but for those risks to be unknown. Or worse, those risks to be unknown but to be concealed from the consumer. Asbestos comes to mind in the first category, cigarettes in the second. Then there's the recent concerns about 'forever chemicals' PFSAs, which I'm personally only just hearing about. So I think it's reasonable to be concerned and vigilant about these things.
Then again, there are some substances that are known to be harmful that are happily sold and marketed and enjoyed by millions during celebratory events (or every day occasions) despite being a neurotoxin and carcinogen. Drink up everybody! So in some instances it's balancing risks and benefits.
- Secondly, as a non-science expert, but a reasonably well informed and curious layperson, I'm wary of trusting one source on a particular matter. Primarily because research doesn't happen in a vacuum. Like everything else, there's inevitably differing quality research. There's competing or complementary scientists or research bodies that compete or collaborate to further knowledge. Seeing one source makes me mindful that there may well be other research on the area either confirming or debunking the findings of the source you've provided - and I can't know unless I have a good knowledge of the subject matter.
Doesn't mean I can't acquire it. But I have other interests. And I'm relatively happy to defer to the expertise of others in this regard. I don't know if you're expert in anything OP, but if you are you may relate to how it wrong headed others come across when they try and school you in an area they aren't familiar with, but you happen to have a very thorough handle on.
End of my essay.
So to summarise, in concentrations lower than 9% it will not have acute negative effects on your health in the short term, however long term is where it becomes potentially problematic.
there's actually no real evidence of that either.
The report was actually about sunscreen in skin care + using actual sunscreen. In layman's terms it was saying if you use lipstick or face cream etc with 10%Octocrylene then using a sunscreen with also 10% Octocrylene could possibly be problematic but there's actually no credible scientific research to back it up, has the sample sizes for mostly animal and the occasional human trials were way too small.
I checked sunscreen brands in Woolworths app. So many brands contain this ingredient. So, not sure about what you informed.
The benefits highly outweigh the potential risks. No significant evidence for affecting the endocrine system currently and is FDA approved.
The main risk is the allergen and pollutant but you would know by now if you are allergic to sunblock.Do your own research…
5G magnifying?
Please elaborate how me stating for people to do their own research is in anyway related to unbased claims of 5G being bad for you?
You really are triggered aren’t you
No. just making fun of your stupidity
@M00Cow: Throwing in random jibes that have nothing to do with what I’ve mentioned doesn’t highlight my stupidity m00cow, it just proves you can’t properly argue my original comment which was this ingredient was a known pollutant and allergen, and a potential endocrine disruptor. That statement in itself is factual.
@yaozy: you quoted a paper which totally contradicted your assertion. you (or your mates on telegram who've you've quoted) can't understand a scientific paper.
You should stop drinking water because it's responsibly for more then 1 million deaths each year?.
Thanks to both of you I learned something new.
LaRoche Posay Anthelios sunscreens also seem to contain Octocrylene.
Doesn't sound like the debate around Octocrylene is settled, most of the good sunscreens I have checked have it in there. Only a few like beauty of joseon don't have it, but they use chemical UV filters instead of physical, which is said not to be as effective
That’s a measured approach to take, well done for having a look around for alternatives which was the purpose of my original comment.
The potential negative for health isn’t the only thing that people should be weary of though, it’s a known pollutant and its use has been outright banned in Hawaii, Thailand, US virgin islands, and Key West off Florida due to its harmful effects on reefs and their ecosyetems.
I haven't done any reading on this but I only use this for daily wear and not for the beach.
Not sure if water from the drain is treated to remove chemicals (assume they would) but hard to say if the compound ends up in our waterways after using some kind of solvent or surfactant to wash it off our faces…
My question is do we even know that using it or wearing it not at the beach will have it end up as a pollutant?
Read ‘Lotion’ and thought i could Diddy with this stuff, guess not.
YOUR favourite sunscreen. a real cheapskate would get 1 litre of sunscreen for that price that does the same thing
is it?