Tyres - Pirelli vs Michelin vs Bridgestone

Megatron on 17/10/2024 - 13:27

Ok - So I am in the market for new set of tyres. Size 255/50/19 (min 105 Load index)

On my previous cars I have had Michelin and Bridgestone mostly.. I was extremely happy with Michelins but it was a mixed feeling with Bridgestone (I think ecopia ruined it for me). When I bought the car, it had Kumhos on it which have lastedabout 50K Kms but are noisy as hell so dont want them anymore.

So looking for options as Michelins in that size are super expensive and generally do not have much of a discount on them. So the options I have looked at

  1. Costco has "Bridgestone 255/50R19 107Y Alenza 001" - Will cost $1468
  2. Michelin Pilot Sport 4 or Latitude Sport 3 - Will cost between $1650 to $1778 from Tyroola (have been monitoring and they dont go too below that price).
  3. MyCar have PIRELLI SCORPION MS XL 107W - Will cost $958 in their Black Friday sale

Spoke with the guy at my local MyCar, he sort of knows me as I am a regular there. He said they will more than likely have the black friday sale and he will process my order on the sale day. However, he also mentioned the Pirelli's, while great in performance and noise, will only last 30-40k Kms. While reading on the web, Michelins will last about double that and on a per Km basis will cost less.

So I am in a total dillema as Michelins have been my favourite tyres but I am not sure I can make myself pay extra $800 for them even after knowing they will last longer.

What are people's views on these? or are there any other mainstream brands I should look for?

Note - I do put a high value on my family's life so will not put some crappy tryes from an unknown chinese company.

Automotive Bridgestone Michelin Pirelli Tyre

Comments

  • the fig man on 18/10/2024 - 20:29

    Had Bridgestone potenza re002 or 3 on my ford Mondeo for year and a half. Recently re aligned at Bob Jane and he said they’ve only got 10k left. Disappointed given I’ve only done max 15-20k on them.

    • MS Paint on 18/10/2024 - 21:25

      30k kms would be disappointing. Do you rotate your tyres regularly? The Mondeo is a pretty heavy FWD car.

      • the fig man on 20/10/2024 - 19:29

        No. It was the first rotation since bought them (12/18 months). But still. Might look at Michelin next time.

  • Commander Shepard on 18/10/2024 - 23:07
    +1

    I hate wheel spin and losing the front end in FWD hot hatches. So Michelins for me in that usage case.

    However if its RWD. I don't mind cheaper brands like Kumho.

  • virhlpool on 19/10/2024 - 00:12
    +2

    Bought moderately used two Hankook and two Kumho tyres (both Korean brands) and fitted for $250 total. No issues whatsoever. I could have spent $1200 but I chose to spend $250 in spirit of OzBargain.

  • IamEzza on 19/10/2024 - 01:11

    Get the Michelins.

    Yes they are expensive, but they are so damn good, when you put them on your car it's like you upgrade the car to a better car to drive.
    So in a way they are one the most cost effective improvements you can make to your car.

  • shreav on 19/10/2024 - 08:43
    +2

    Word on the street is Michelin if you can afford them. I couldn't so switched to Kumho.

    I like the Kumhos over my former Pirellis.

  • Jackson on 19/10/2024 - 09:31

    Kumho and Hancook are probably the tyres you can find easiest on the cheap if you are after a decent tyre and you don't drive like a massive hoon (although they make tyres for hoons also), Pirellis are good when they are half price from mycar once a year and that's about it

  • bigbadboogieman on 19/10/2024 - 12:04

    Has a really bad experience with Pirelli due to poor performance on wet roads. Wasn't even aware this was a thing when we bought Pirelli. One time when it was raining my car (front wheel drive) completely lost control inside a round-about but thankfully we didn't skid off the road and it was not a busy time (no traffic). We went with Dunlop Grandtrek immediately after this incident and cannot be happier. In my opinion Pirelli would be a big No.

  • soulblighter on 19/10/2024 - 12:07
    -3

    I don't know why every Aussie feel good about themselves when they have this bloody disgusting attitude when they state "things are not made in China". Every crap you buy in this third world country or any other country is more often than not made in China, including your michelins and your underwears. Ffs.
    Grow up.

    • Megatron on 19/10/2024 - 14:06
      -1

      I wont blame you for misinterpretation of the comment as it is often the chinese nationals fail at interpreting things properly and jump to conclusions.

      The comment says Chinese brand not made in China.. same differences as buying an apple vs huwaei or whatever that spy of a brand is called.

      Perhaps it is time you learned controlling your emotions better and stop jumping to conclusions and blame a whole nationality for your personal shortcomings.

      • soulblighter on 20/10/2024 - 17:23
        -1

        Nah, chill. I don't have to blame an entire nationality for that. Since you jumped on seems like you're justifying your own personal shortcomings / agenda. After all it's a nation built by convicts who got booted from England and always fall short without pharmaceutical help on the personal front (as everyone's aware), may be they need help from China or other nations on that front too. Good luck with overcoming yours, I wish you all the best.

        • CurlCurl on 20/10/2024 - 19:46

          Nah, chill. I don't have to blame an entire nationality for that. Since you jumped on seems like you're justifying your own personal shortcomings / agenda. After all it's a nation built by convicts who got booted from England and always fall short without pharmaceutical help on the personal front (as everyone's aware), may be they need help from China or other nations on that front too. Good luck with overcoming yours, I wish you all the best.

          Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi.

          I am from convict stock (Tasmania) and PROUD of it.

  • gentlekoala5906 on 19/10/2024 - 15:10

    Michelin every day of the week. Recently put on PS5's and they are so grippy and comfortable

  • SYLTB on 19/10/2024 - 16:33

    You should not have any French, except a redhead brunette and Michelin tyres.

  • moist on 19/10/2024 - 16:55
    -1

    Cheapest possible for me, meh, never had problems with cheap tires

    • CurlCurl on 19/10/2024 - 17:02

      Cheapest possible for me, meh, never had problems with cheap tires

      Until you need good tyres.

      BTW. I'm glad you are 1,200kl away from me,

      • moist on 19/10/2024 - 17:20

        You're paying for the brand

  • JonSteele on 19/10/2024 - 21:14

    I have 225/45/19 rims and tires, is their a site to say what tires will fit your car? It's a 2021 Toyota CHR Gr Sport.

    • sumyungguy on 19/10/2024 - 21:31
      +1

      Your tyre diameter is 27 inches, OP's is 29 inches; both on 19 inch rims. This site shows equivalent sizes. You could go wider and lower profile 255/40R19 but you'll need to check if your rims are wide enough to fit them; and if there are any insurance implications if they're not listed on your tyre placard.

      • CurlCurl on 20/10/2024 - 09:24

        The ADR allow changes to wheel and tyre size with limits, but speed and load rating must not be less than on the tyre placard.

        • sumyungguy on 20/10/2024 - 10:02

          I learned something new, not sure it's of any value. As usual it depends on your state/territory. Load ratings have to match the placard. In most states you're permitted to fit speed rating S (180 km/h); good to know but I've never seen an S-rated tyre. In NSW if replacement tyres fitted have a speed rating less than that shown on the vehicle’s tyre placard, it's recommended that a warning label be affixed to the vehicle (windscreen). Wonder if anyone does that?

          • CurlCurl on 20/10/2024 - 11:14

            @sumyungguy:

            I learned something new, not sure it's of any value. As usual it depends on your state/territory. Load ratings have to match the placard. In most states you're permitted to fit speed rating S (180 km/h); good to know but I've never seen an S-rated tyre. In NSW if replacement tyres fitted have a speed rating less than that shown on the vehicle’s tyre placard, it's recommended that a warning label be affixed to the vehicle (windscreen). Wonder if anyone does that?

            We both learnt something new today,

            https://www.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/2021-02/RMS-Guide…

            Tyre speed ratings

            The speed rating of tyres fitted should be equal to or higher than the rating of the original tyres
            fitted by the vehicle manufacturer. However:

            • If the speed rating of the tyres specified for your vehicle is higher than 180 km/h, you may fit
            tyres with a lower speed rating, but not lower than the vehicle’s top speed

            • If the replacement tyres fitted have a speed rating less than that shown on the vehicle’s tyre
            placard, it is recommended that a warning label be affixed to the vehicle as shown in Figure
            3.

            Usually, the tyre dealer attaches the label

            • sumyungguy on 20/10/2024 - 12:00

              @CurlCurl: Meanwhile in Qld:
              The speed rating of all tyres must be at least:
              • for another car (sedan, station wagon, etc.) with up to nine adult seating positions or a car derivative – 180km/h
              • the vehicle’s top speed, if lower than the speeds referred to above.

              NSW is confusing as it says but not lower than the vehicle’s top speed. For a Porsche Taycan Turbo GT 290km/h you'd have to fit Y-rated tyres in NSW but only S-rated in Qld, not that such a tyre even exists.

              • CurlCurl on 20/10/2024 - 12:33

                @sumyungguy:

                but not lower than the vehicle’s top speed

                My Outlanders top speed is 192kph. Who in their right mind would do that? I have to fit H or V tyres as the top speed is 2kph over the T rating. That's madness.

                • sumyungguy on 20/10/2024 - 12:48

                  @CurlCurl: … or a warning label inside your windscreen, 40 x 40 mm with not less than 2 mm high black lettering on an orange coloured background

                  • CurlCurl on 20/10/2024 - 13:37

                    @sumyungguy: T rated tyre speed 190. My vehicle top speed 192.

                    This from NSW transport.

                    If the speed rating of the tyres specified for your vehicle is higher than 180 km/h, you may fit
                    tyres with a lower speed rating, but not lower than the vehicle’s top speed

                    All that for 2kph.

  • Nugs on 20/10/2024 - 20:12

    "However, he also mentioned the Pirelli's, while great in performance and noise, will only last 30-40k Kms. While reading on the web, Michelins will last about double that and on a per Km basis will cost less."
    The 'cost' risk of going Michelin is, what if you have uneven wear or slice a sidewall and need to replace a pair (min) before getting the value out of them? You need to avoid such scenarios for 'twice' as long
    .

    • puppetmaster on 21/10/2024 - 02:11

      There is no way Michelin PS4 will last double 30-40k KMs. I have them on my car. Great tyre but after 30k the tread is worn and needs replacing.

      • Hackney on 24/10/2024 - 06:17

        My late fathers Mazda2 Genki(2005 model) has just had its tyres replace.The tyres that were replaced were Michelin XM2, they had 85,000kms on them.A few more kms could have been squeezed out of them but in the interest of road safety I thought not! Replaced with XM2+.(the car is now in the hands of my daughter.)I have a set of Primacy 4 on my car,I reckon around the 40,000k mark these will need replacement,car has only 12,000 on it @ the moment.Have used Michelin’s all my life, would never consider anything else.

  • groggycat on 22/10/2024 - 08:48
    +1

    Pilot Sport for the win!
    Amazing dry/rain performance out of these tyres, I think I have done at least 40,000km on a VF Commodore (which shows how many burnouts I haven't done)

    • Hackney on 24/10/2024 - 06:20

      Great tyre! Had these on my GT Mustang, mine were the Pilot sport 4’S’.

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