RTX 5090 Build - Cries in 4k

lethalmoney on 16/10/2024 - 20:34

I'm considering a big splash for my next upgrade.
Due to the rule of patterns, I am forced to buy an RTX 5090.

I went from a 1070 > 3080, so naturally > 5090.

Obviously we don't have local price gauging prices here yet for the 5090's, but I'm trying to work out a rough build to buy early 2025.
PC is basically gaming only.
I'm kind of interested in trying a smaller form factor (microATX) if there's something cool that will fit the 5090.

I'm guessing early adopter price for a 5090 might be around the 3.3k+ mark.
How much would I be looking at for a complete PC build, without bottle necking the new GPU? (no SSD's required)

I think i'll be up around 6k total, just throwing some parts around, but I really need to research compatibility etc more and see what the next few months brings.

Anyone else planning on a big 5090 build next year?

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Comments

  • Wiadro on 16/10/2024 - 21:25
    +37

    Anyone else planning on a big 5090 build next year?

    no, hope this helps

  • freefall101 on 16/10/2024 - 21:51
    +5

    How much would I be looking at for a complete PC build, without bottle necking the new GPU?

    Based off the incredibly detailed specifications of 'a 5090 that doesn't have a price' and 'a bunch of other computer bits', my guess is $63,109.10 plus GST.

    Pay cash so they round it down.

    • spackbace on 16/10/2024 - 22:04
      -1

      Hmm here I was thinking it would be $72,804.55 + GST

      • EightImmortals on 17/10/2024 - 09:25
        -1

        lols, what are you, a car salesman?

  • scrimshaw on 16/10/2024 - 22:09
    -1

    How do you plan for a RTX5090 build when a) the price is not even announced b) there is no official spec release and you don't know what kind of power supply it demands?

    • lethalmoney on 16/10/2024 - 22:48
      +2

      this is where dreams take flight

      • pharkurnell on 17/10/2024 - 10:05
        +2

        this is where dreams crash taking flight.

  • xuqi on 16/10/2024 - 22:12

    Knowing Nvidia's greed, $4k should buy you a GPU.

    • QuigonJohnn on 07/01/2025 - 19:05
      +1

      I hope you bet big on that, because you were right on the money.

  • Axelstrife on 17/10/2024 - 00:32
    +2

    "3.3k+ mark"

    Look at this comedian here hahaha

  • soifon on 17/10/2024 - 01:22
    -2

    Why not wait for the 6090?

    • AustriaBargain on 17/10/2024 - 09:04

      He wants the 7090 obviously, to maintain the pattern.

      • pharkurnell on 17/10/2024 - 10:06
        -1

        Im waiting on the 12090 …. no point wasting cash until then.

        • Qazxswec on 17/10/2024 - 15:15

          Man, GTA 5 and Three Quarters is going to look so sweet on that thing

  • DingoBilly on 17/10/2024 - 07:05
    +1

    Is there any particular reason you are looking to upgrade besides fomo?

    I'm using a 1070 myself and it's plenty for gaming personally. Unless you're just dripping in money you need to get rid of, it seems like there's going to be little benefit in upgrading at this stage?

    • theHMASfriendship on 17/10/2024 - 07:25
      +3

      OP explained that.

      The sad thing is that this will be their last upgrade, as there won’t be 60100.

      • Haplo on 17/10/2024 - 08:45

        70100

      • lethalmoney on 17/10/2024 - 15:11

        Correct, which is why ill have to build up a decent spec sheet.

      • shazzagraz on 29/10/2024 - 16:06

        Check your numbers lol. Next in the pattern would be 8000 (1070 > 3080 > 5090 > 8000). Each instance is simply +2010.
        You're right about it being their last upgrade though, unless they change numbering format and release an 8000 GPU.

  • ForkSnorter on 17/10/2024 - 07:56

    Get a PlayStation 4 instead. You can get them for less than $200 secondhand.

  • idjces on 17/10/2024 - 10:38
    +2

    GPU's consume a lot of power and dissipate a lot of heat. If you have a small box for your pc (microATX), you'll likely struggle with overheating unless you have great airflow. It's a very prominent issue to constantly deal with in pc's.

    Regarding bottle necking the new GPU, most cpu's in a given generation will share similar spec individual cores, so anything decent with a count of 8 cores or more, should be adequate

    • jk82 on 17/10/2024 - 12:47
      +2

      nah, most ITX cases and some matx cases are built with this sort of heat dissipation in mind, and have good airflow on every panel (no glass to be seen!). I've recently downsized from a corsair 4000D to the Lian Li DAN A3 and my temps are better in the matx case than they were in the full tower - with less fans too!

      • ForkSnorter on 18/10/2024 - 10:01
        +1

        “Fewer” fans

  • nedski on 17/10/2024 - 11:33

    Due to the rule of patterns, I am forced to buy an RTX 5090.

    Not sure forced is the right word here.

    I would be querying what an RTX 5090 would give you over a somewhat cheaper 4090. Even if you have 3080 now, how is that not coping?

    • lethalmoney on 17/10/2024 - 15:10

      Ill hand my current desktop to the kids.

  • kaos on 17/10/2024 - 12:26
    +3

    Due to the rule of OzBargain,
    I am forced to humblebrag.

    but I also want the most energy sucking, heat producing video card ever made stuffed into a tiny box, yougetme?

  • jk82 on 17/10/2024 - 12:39
    +3

    Here you go:

    https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/VPMDbL

    $2.2k plus the price of the 5090 so I'm guessing about $5-6k all up.

    This is in the Lian Li DAN A3 matx case so it's pretty compact at 26L, but should support the 5090 even if it's a chonka (TBD though, we'll see I guess)

    It's not a no-expense-spared build, but it is pretty close to top of the line components, I'm guessing if you're getting a 5090 you don't want to cheap out on the other parts.

    It's also an ITX build, so if you decide you want a smaller case you could pair it with a 5080 or 5070 etc (whatever is in line with nvidias new SFF specs), it should all fit in a Terra or A4H20 - just change the CPU cooler and double check your RAM clearance.

    :)

    • lethalmoney on 17/10/2024 - 15:14

      Much appreciated. I ended up doing a build sheet last night as well and fell on that case.
      Looks pretty neat.

      https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/GBxPyg

      Havent looked into the r7/r9 optimal cpu yet, just selected that one as an R9 x3d

      • jk82 on 17/10/2024 - 16:36
        +2

        Nice one - few comments on your spec sheet:

        CPU - the 7800x3D has better performance in gaming than the 7950x3D surprisingly, and it's way more efficient so you can cool it with air (AIO's are big and hot) - you can even get away with a compact air cooler, should you want to move it to an ITX case. Either way - more efficient = lower wattage = less heat. I'd also wait and see how the 9800X3D goes when it comes out, I don't think perfomance will be that much better but I think it's going to be even more efficient and likely the new leader (price aside). And yes I know AIO's are all RGB and make it look flash hot but honestly, weigh up the looks vs functionality if you're going matx or smaller.

        RAM - I'd go for 6000MT/s if you're fully spec'ing it out (look for 6000 CL30).

        PSU - you can technically fit an ATX size PSU in there, but I have a TUF 4080 in my Lian Li DAN A3 with an ATX supply and it's super tight - you're better off going for a SFX PSU as you'll have more breathing room in the case and again, flexibility should you move to ITX at some point. The ROG Loki 1000w and the Corsair SF750 are current top of the line and I'd rank them more reliable over even a 1200w from another brand. But go "Platinum" over "Gold"

        Currently the Lian Li DAN A3 is one of only two matx cases that are really that compatible with massive GPU's, but the other worth noting is the jonsbo z20 if that's more your jam.

        I've been keeping up with the latest and greatest in ITX and mATX form factor for a while now so any other questions feel free to throw them my way

        If you want absolute premium / fantastic looking cases let me know and I'll link a few :)

        Oh, and one more thing - if you're not actually going ITX, then look for an MATX mobo - it'll likely have more M.2 SSD slots and be slightly cheaper while still having quality components.

        • lethalmoney on 17/10/2024 - 17:44

          Thanks for the nuggets of gold. Ill keep it all front of mind come next year.

          I think ill go mATX and no smaller. Think i selected the wrong mobo by mistake.

          Appreciate all the tips

          • jk82 on 18/10/2024 - 08:16
            +1

            @lethalmoney: No worries mate. One last thing - if you want an idea of what I think are some of the nicer cases out there at the moment check these out. Note that shipping times are generally quite long, ie. months. So if it's something you would consider you may need to get on it a bit earlier than the rest of your build. Obviously we don't know the dimensions of the 5000 series yet so that's another factor.

            NANOQ R (the S is the ITX one, the R is closer to matx) - this can also stand vertically if you want a smaller footprint
            https://thor-zone.com/

            NCase M2
            https://ncased.com/

            Fractal Mood (this one likely won't accommodate the 5090)
            https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/mood/mood/ligh…

            And there's this stunner although it's specifically made for the ASUS Pro-art series of RTX4000 cards
            https://www.galapower.com.au/product/xiiki-ff04-mini-itx-cas…

            check out Optimum tech or Devyn Johnston on youtube if you want to see how parts fit in these cases.

      • stoogethomas on 21/10/2024 - 13:47
        +1

        You should get better sticks of ram. For an extra $50 you can get a lower CL down to 34 with 6000mhz. With black Friday sales coming up you may even be able to get it at same price.

  • beefmaster on 17/10/2024 - 23:06

    Do it!

    AMD Ryzen 9950X3D - $1,200.00
    ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E Hero WiFi - $1,300.00
    Trident Z5 Royal Neo, 48GB (2x24GB), DDR5-8000 CL40-48-48-128 1.40V, F5-8000J4048G24GX2-TR5NS - $500.00
    Nvidia RTX 5090 - $4,500.00
    Corsair iCUE Link H170i LCD 420mm AIO Liquid CPU Cooler - $500.00
    Seasonic Prime PX-2200 ATX 3.0 Platinum 2200W Power Supply - $1000.00
    Lian Li O11D EVO RGB Automobili Lamborghini Edition Case Black - $500.00

    Total $9,500.00

    Below is what I planned to get myself. I have adult money now, but no longer able to justify the crazy price.

    AMD Ryzen 9 7900 - $566.00
    ASRock B650I Lightning WiFi - $299.00
    Corsair VENGEANCE 64GB (2x32GB), 6000MHz DDR5, CL 30-36-36, 1.40V - $322.09
    RTX 4070 ti super - $1,200.00
    Dan A4-SFX

    Total $2,387.09

    • jk82 on 18/10/2024 - 07:45
      +1

      pfft 9950X3d

      cries in threadripper
      https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/cpu/amd-threadripper/107…

      :D

      • beefmaster on 18/10/2024 - 09:06

        I guess 9950X3d is for peasant :)

        I bought the Threadripper 2970WX back in 2019 for $1,549. Each iteration of Threadripper is getting more expensive than previous. Great CPU

        AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX (Base: 3.50GHz, Boost: 4.20GHz / 76MB Cache / TR4 / 24 Core / 250 Watt

  • jugsy on 18/10/2024 - 16:27

    No point planning now, prices will swing and vulnerabilities/HCFs will be found

  • Kiro on 08/01/2025 - 08:04
    +1

    still rocking dual GTX 1080 in SLI, cant complain.

    dayz
    Hell let lose
    outer worlds
    skyrim
    project zomboid
    long drive

    dont need RXT to distract me from killin lol.

  • lethalmoney on 08/01/2025 - 09:02

    well, $4000 is the base price… that's a bit more than I expected. Aussie dollar hasn't helped the cause much.

    Looks like ill save pennies and not get one at launch, see what the third parties do / what issues are found by consumers first.

    • Boop Doucha on 08/01/2025 - 11:23

      Smart move. I bought a 1080ti back in the day for $1000. At the time I thought it was an obscene amount of money for a video card…

    • jk82 on 08/01/2025 - 14:52

      grab the 5080 mate!! I reckon even the 5070Ti will see you pushing above 4k120fps in pretty much every game currently out (with DLSS obvs). Do it!!!!!

      • lethalmoney on 08/01/2025 - 16:29

        I want a 90 series card at least once in my life. And the jump from a 5080 -> 5090 on paper is mental.
        I'm getting into VR gaming and would love to be able to push Ray Traced AAA titles on Ultra etc.

        Still just configuring a possible build now. Will wait to see some Crysis test comparisons (hehe).

        • jk82 on 08/01/2025 - 16:48
          +1

          haha yolo it then bud. launch is the best time to get one, stays fresh for years! did you see DF's first impressions? MFG only adds like 6ms latency which is insane!

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpzufsxtZpA

          can't wait to see some real world performance outta this thing

  • rezvisquikz on 08/01/2025 - 13:57

    I have never paid retail for GPUs since 2012 and have always purchased used. This time however, I have decided to buy a 5090. Can anyone provide some insight on what the the early adopter challenges? few questions I had are -
    - Upon release is it hard to buy the gpu?
    - Do prices increase the longer I wait to buy? reason I ask because when I was looking at 4090s few weeks ago the retails were all above 3.3k
    - Is it easy to get GPU water blocks for whatever is available at launch?
    - which retailers usually sell/ allow pre-orders so that I can secure my unit

    I thank you in advance for your time.

    • jk82 on 08/01/2025 - 14:48
      1. I can't imagine these things selling that much at $4k - especially being that the main selling point (DLSS4) is yet to be implemented into many games. I reckon you'll be fine to nab one on release if you're quick.
      2. prices will remain the same for about a year, then when the refreshed lineup comes out next year (Ti / Super etc) they'll likely drop. Unless the US tarriff situation comes into play but I have no idea what that'll do to us here in Aus.
      3. waterblocks are custom from 3rd party manufacturers, I'm not expecting to see any for at least a few months
      4. I don't think there's any ability to pre-order but check the usual suspects as soon as launch day comes - scoprtec, mwave, umart etc. etc.
    • lethalmoney on 08/01/2025 - 14:52

      You will possibly be in a bot/scalper battle, pending on unit availability.
      I bought a 3080 at launch, so ill apply similar to this anticipated launch :
      You will be able to preorder. However preorders were being cancelled so the store could sell them at higher prices, as the 30 series was hwavily used for mining.
      The intention of use for this AI powered card remains to be seen still.
      There was a page (memory fades) via ozb or reddit that was listing in stock gpu's. Thats how i snagged mine (was a bit of luck tbh).

      Not all cards will get water cooling backplates. The higher end gaming cards often will. Best to check with the backplate manufacturers on this.

      I went via scorptec .

      • jk82 on 08/01/2025 - 14:58

        You reckon there will be bots / scalpers?? I got my 4080 at launch just fine…and because they were priced so high, scalpers weren't interested hence there weren't any bots (maybe I'm not remembering correctly, it was a while ago haha)

      • rezvisquikz on 08/01/2025 - 15:10

        Did you have to ring scorptec or did they announce preorder on their site?

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