New Set of Tyres for Honda Jazz

fozzie on 01/10/2024 - 23:12
Last edited 02/10/2024 - 11:58 by 2 other users

Hi all, I need to replace 4 tyres on current Honda Jazz. Mechanic mentioned I should do within the next 3 months. Anyway I’m currently tossing amongst following. Also happy to wait for Black Friday if worth waiting:

Laufenn S Fit EQ+ LK01 (4 for $520 at Jaxx)

Firestone Firehawk Sport 01 185/55R16 83V ($687 at Bridgestone)

Goodyear 185/55R16 83V Assurance MaxGuard $600 in Sydney

Dunlop sp sport Lm705 ($610 mobile mechanic via ebay)

Car is mostly driven by P plater who used up the fairly new (under 2 years and under 20k) Kumho Ecsta PA51 very quickly due to some bad habits that hopefully will improve (such as dry steering).

Of course safety is important.

Which one to pick?

Tia

Poll Options

  • 1
    Lauffen
  • 2
    Firestone
  • 30
    Goodyear
  • 9
    Michelin
  • 3
    Dunlop
Automotive Car Honda Tyre

Comments

  • Pelicannn on 01/10/2024 - 23:29
    +1

    The best you can afford.

    I'd never skimp on a few inches of good rubber. Might just save your life on the road… or in the bedroom.

    With that in mind, I recommend Michelin.

  • MS Paint on 01/10/2024 - 23:48
    +1

    Seems a pretty odd sized tyre. You may have limited options.

    • fozzie on 01/10/2024 - 23:56

      Yes you are correct. Lucky me. Anyhow also this Dunlop seem good value https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/196203695736?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mk…

      I’ll do some more research.

      • pharkurnell on 02/10/2024 - 12:00

        Just watch the age of tyres being sold cheap on ebay. mate got some ancient tyres few mth back, yea price was great though.

        • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 12:03

          Oh wow, even from MTS?

          • pharkurnell on 02/10/2024 - 12:23

            @fozzie: no idea of their stuff… just something to keep in mind in general. FWIW wasnt them mate bought from..

  • WoodYouLikeSomeCash on 02/10/2024 - 03:52

    A new MG3 will come with free tyres.

  • Cheekykent on 02/10/2024 - 05:33

    Bfg advantage tour

  • Nugs on 02/10/2024 - 06:08

    "Laufenn"
    Is that pronounced laughin?
    .

    • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 07:23

      Ahah, terrible name but they are made by Hankook.

    • klaw81 on 02/10/2024 - 09:02

      "Laufen" is the German word for "run" - I assume that's where the name came from. Similar to the way "sprinter" is used in English branding.

  • nicktork on 02/10/2024 - 06:46
    +2

    Jump on the Tyroola website, enter your tyre sizes, choose what you like, get them delivered to a local tyre shop for fitting. You'll have a better selection and save a lot.

  • solidussnake on 02/10/2024 - 06:53
    -1

    Safety is important for a hoon that shredded some tyres pretty quick ?

    • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 07:19
      +1

      Hopefully they’ll be more careful this time around. Also they are paying for half of them.

  • pegaxs on 02/10/2024 - 08:24
    -1

    lol @ “dry steering” causing all the tyre woes. Didn’t even know this had a name and I’ve been driving and working on cars for over 30 years.

    I can assure you now, the reason your P plater has tyre wear issues is based on them driving the car like they are trading paint with Shane Van Gisbergen. The world is their race track.

    There is nothing more powerful than a P platers car when it comes to corners and spinning tyres… especially one that it covered but the Bank of Dad lease plan.

    I would put Michelin Pilot Sport tyres on it and then hand him the bill and he doesn’t get the keys back until he pays for all the tyres… kids tend to have more respect for their cars when they have to pay for the repairs and consumables.

    • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 08:41
      -2

      Ahha, we are talking about a girl here. The mechanic mention that she might be speeding when turning at roundabouts. It could also be that the tyres weren’t that great? Overall she doesn’t really speed. In any case will need replacing now. Just haven’t been very lucky with tyres on this car (at least front ones). I had to replace front tyres about 3 years ago and I put continental. After a year a blister formed (possibly a pothole) and I had to replace both due to not being able to find the same tyre. Then I put the Khumo which are gone after 2 years. Anyway not much we can do.

      • Protractor on 02/10/2024 - 09:23
        +1

        She's been playing the old; 'how fast can I get up to, in the roundabout game'.

        Girls (also) just wanna have fun.

      • pegaxs on 02/10/2024 - 09:58

        Well TIL that girls don’t drive like race car drivers… well, I’ll be sure to note that in my future assessments of cars with flogged tyres and P plate drivers.

        “Is the driver male or female”
        “Female”
        “Well, it certainly can’t be her driving causing this excessive wear… most definitely caused by ’dry steering’ and the brand of tyres…”

  • saltypete on 02/10/2024 - 08:42
    +3

    Dry turning alone isnt using up those tyres. Get the learner to pay for the tyres. Some of lifes lessons are the tuition fees.

    • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 08:43
      +1

      Yes I’m indeed getting her to pay for at least the front ones.

  • MS Paint on 02/10/2024 - 08:46

    Maybe rotate the new tyres every 5k kms to try and increase longevity.

    Is it a manual or auto jazz?

    Are the current fronts down to the treadwear indicators or is the mechanic just trying to drum up future business?

    • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 08:59

      Yes the tyres are very low and just passed pink slip. I think the problem is that we don’t rotate tyres. Me and husband aren’t good at it unfortunately and previous mechanic never did (I didn’t even think about asking him to do it). Current mechanic isn’t providing new tyres so definitely not upselling.
      Car is 2014 Honda jazz automatic.

      • brad1-8tsi on 02/10/2024 - 10:21

        My 22yo daughter goes through tyres like a mofo. Tyres & fuel are the only things I won't pay for.

        Her bad habits are accelerating too hard from the lights (V-Tec yo!), late braking from not looking far enough up the road, not checking tyre pressures, not giving a toss in general, crap cornering technique and running into gutters. Overall she drives too fast and is over-confident for her skill level.

        I'd suggest you ensure she checks her tyre pressure (and all fluid levels) every 2 months and the tyres cross-rotated every service. Get her in the habit of doing basic maintenance checks.

        I'm surprised your mech can do the Goodyears at such a competitive price. It's the same as Tempe Tyres.

        • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 10:25

          That’s not mechanic. It’s Tempe Tyres

  • Protractor on 02/10/2024 - 09:12
    +2

    Well I never! Women/girls 'apparently' can't be hoons or petrol heads.

  • mapax on 02/10/2024 - 09:15
    +4

    I highly doubt dry steering is the major factor unless she is sitting there turning lock to lock whilst waiting at each set of traffic lights.
    I’m gonna say it’s related to a heavy right foot and everyone is just giving her the “female pass” and gender stereotyping.

  • frondono on 02/10/2024 - 09:22

    mycar normally has half price pirellis on the black friday sales in november.

  • oscargamer on 02/10/2024 - 09:29

    What are the actual mm's left on each tyre?

    • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 09:33

      1.5mm on 3 of them

      • shxhshzhz on 02/10/2024 - 09:53

        You have to replace those immediately

      • oscargamer on 02/10/2024 - 11:38

        Is that total tread or tread above marker?

        • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 11:52

          Im not sure. The mechanic said it just passed and to replace 3 of them very soon.

          • oscargamer on 02/10/2024 - 17:00

            @fozzie: Not sure if you know, but the legal minimum is 1.5mm. That is the level at which the Tyre Wear Indicators are flush with the surrounding material and must be replaced.

            If your TWI's are flush, then yes, they need replacing now.

            If you have 1.5mm ABOVE those TWI's, then you have time to shop around

            See similar to https://fosupervs.best/product_details/14303734.html

            Can you go out to your car and have a feel? If they are flush or if there is a noticeable lip between the indicator and the surrounding tread

  • Protractor on 02/10/2024 - 09:35

    https://www.tyroola.com.au/tyre/185-55-r16/nsw/

    Narrow to your location?
    Don't rule out brands like Nexen

    • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 09:40

      Ok, thanks. Yes Nexen are Korean

  • GordonD on 02/10/2024 - 09:53
    +1

    Its like building cars. When countries like South Korea got into making tyres the big established American and European tyre manufacturers had decades of experience they didn't have at building them right and formulating the compounds that enabled them to grip wet and dry and not wear out ridiculously quickly. But tyre manufacturing is a mature industry now. Unless you go for the ridiculous cheapies, the difference between brands is a lot less than it used to be.

    It doesn't make as much difference what you buy as it used to. Its more a matter of buying the tyres that do what you want done well. Like choosing a performance tyre, or a wet grip tyre, or an off-road tyre, and a tyre that gives you the most kilometres for the dollar. And the tyres shops can do a better job of advising you on that than people here who may want quite a different thing out of their tyres than you do.

    But its very unlikely that "dry steering" made much difference to the life of the previous tyres.

  • entropysbane on 02/10/2024 - 09:55

    Be definitely worth waiting for midnight Black Friday sales. 50% off pirellis at mycar last two years running.
    With my 20 inch AT tyres I saved $1200 last year.

    • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 09:58

      That’s great. Unfortunately it doesn’t look like mycar does Pirelli my size

      • entropysbane on 02/10/2024 - 13:40

        That is unfortunate.
        But there will be other Black Friday tyre brand/retailer deals, if not quite as good a deal.
        I am surprised at the poor performance of the Kumhos. I have had a few sets of them over years. The worst was a set of road tyres lasting 35,000 kms, but about 6,000 of that was towing a van including on gravel.
        My last couple sets of Kumho ATs lasted 60,000. The extra depth of the tread no doubt helps, but makes them noisier, and I doubt you can get All Terrain tyres for a Jazz anyway.

        I think maybe the problem could be bad wheel alignment. Hitting gutters, speed bumps at speed etc can quickly cause those sort of problems.

  • brad1-8tsi on 02/10/2024 - 10:11
    +1

    Laufen are good tyres but limited availability if you damage one & need a replacement.

    Firestone have always been somewhat crap.

    The Goodyear are a good price and will do the job with real negatives.

    Michelin will be a bit better but is it worth the extra $140 given the usage?

    THe Dunlops u linked are OK but no better than the Goodyear.

    FWIW my in 7 years my kid's Accord Euro has had Kumho at one end and Goodyear at the other and you can't tell the difference.
    In the past 7 years it's had Toyo Eco-something (crap in the wet) Grenlander, Dunlop, Goodyear & Kumho and mostly, under normal driving, you can't tell the difference

    • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 10:17

      Thanks for your input. Probably will opt for something not hugely expensive, most likely the Goodyear.

  • Gdsamp on 02/10/2024 - 10:16

    Bridgestone Ecopia are long lasting and good for fuel economy. If you can wait it out 1 more month it's possible they'll be on the buy 3 get 1 free sale again. Rotate annually

    • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 10:19

      Great to know! Thanks for that. Yes once we fit these 4 planning on getting them rotate.

      • brad1-8tsi on 02/10/2024 - 10:24

        You can't afford to wait with only 1.5mm tread and the current Sydney weather.

        Ecopia are ~$280 each so you'll be up for $750 on a 4 for 3 sale.

        • fozzie on 02/10/2024 - 10:25

          Thanks so much. Yes I’ll get it done soon.

        • tonester on 02/10/2024 - 10:26
          +1

          You can't afford to wait with only 1.5mm tread and the current Sydney weather.

          +1

        • entropysbane on 02/10/2024 - 13:42
          +1

          Well, this is the driest time of year and BF is seven weeks away. Worth the gamble I would think.

      • Euphemistic on 02/10/2024 - 12:57

        Long lasting and good for economy dont generally mix with good grip. You might be better aiming for a grippy tyre that will wear a bit quicker, but prevent a crash.

  • JDMcarfan on 02/10/2024 - 10:28
    +4

    Wait till BF. Look at the promos an go from there. For foolproof advice, go for any of the big brands:
    Michelin, Yokohama, Bridgestone, Pirelli, Dunlop, Goodyear, Continental, Hankook, Toyo, Kumho
    and avoid their 'eco' branded tyres - harder silica compounds that reduce rolling resistance (not going to be a significant fuel saving) at the expense of grip.

  • Protractor on 02/10/2024 - 18:47
    -1

    Tyre police have arrived

  • fozzie on 03/10/2024 - 15:46

    Thanks everyone, I have decided to go with Tyresales. BFgoodrich $570 including wheel alignment and free 1 year tyre road assist. Bfgoodrich are made by michelin, so hopefully will be a good choice. Thanks all for your input.

    https://www.tyresales.com.au/buy/tyre/bfgoodrich/advantage_t…?

    • fozzie on 04/10/2024 - 08:28

      Quick update: I contacted Jim’s mobile and asked if they could price match. The guy tried to tell me that wheel alignment etc wasn’t included, when it clearly was from the quote. I then texted Jaxx Tyres and I could believe that they offered $550 for the Goodyear assurance. All included even wheel alignment. Might be worth checking

      • tonester on 04/10/2024 - 11:28
        +1

        +1 Jaxx & Bob Jane for price-match/beat :)

        • fozzie on 04/10/2024 - 11:41

          Yes. Very impressed!

  • Oofy Doofy on 06/11/2024 - 08:44

    The dunlops and laufenn will be the most comfortable and last the longest (higher treadwear ratings than the other options).

    Personally, I'd go with the Dunlop option.

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