Question about Getting Windows 11

Hi, I'm building a PC and wondering what is the best way to get Windows 11.

I find it annoying to have to pay $170 for Windows on top of the cost of the build. But I noticed you can get old 2nd hand/refurb PCs with Windows 11 for not much more than that.

Is it possible to transfer the Windows 11 license from one PC to another?

If not, how did you get Windows 11, do you just go to the Microsoft site, pay $170 and download it to a USB drive then stick it in the new PC?

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  • -4
    • +7

      Don't get the point of these expensive but still unofficial keys. Either buy a ~$15 one off eBay or the cheapest place you can find it (they're all the same) or just use MAS.

    • +1

      Why point him at pirate software, and very expensive pirate software at that.

  • +5
  • +14

    Is it possible to transfer the Windows 11 license from one PC to another?

    The licence that comes with those PCs are OEM licences, they are linked to the hardware and not transferable.

  • +9

    So, you can just technically install Windows 10 or 11 from the official installation media and run it unactivated as long as you don't mind the watermark in the bottom right hand corner. There are alternate methods to activating Windows without spending the full retail price on a license too.

    • +2

      I've been running my PC's like this for a few years and at some point just stoped "seeing" the water mark haha

  • Call Microsoft and ask them if they can transfer the license to your new PC. If they won’t you should shell out the retail price for a legit license. All these sellers on key sites and eBay and stuff are selling dodgy keys which are no better than straight up DRM bypass (which is free).

    • +8

      All these sellers on key sites and eBay and stuff are selling dodgy keys which are no better than straight up DRM bypass (which is free).

      100% dodgy yes, but if they work via the legit channels to activate the licence than that is better than installing some unknown software to bypass it.

      • +5

        MAS is the 59th most starred project on GitHub. Just below the Rust programming language. Not exactly unknown software.

        • -1

          Not exactly unknown software

          Not exactly legit either if you don't own a valid licence.

          Still doesn't change the point of need to install software that runs to bypass the DRM etc vs using a key that appears 'legit' to the OS.

          ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

          • +3

            @JimmyF: Yeah look its a pretty well known technique, and the software to achieve it in this case is a PowerShell script which is pretty easy to verify isn't doing bad stuff if you have a level of familiarity with it. Its hardly rocket science. I don't advocate for doing it, but I'm just pointing out that buying resoled msdn keys is no better than just using the aforementioned PowerShell script. Not that I advocate for doing either.

            • +2

              @djsweet: I totally advocate for doing it considering what Microsoft has done forcing subscriptions onto everyone and slashing their testing division by 90% so "insiders" can be their test dummies. There's only so much greed I can tolerate.

          • +5

            @JimmyF: Both ways give you a key that appears legit to the OS.

            Either give money to MS for creating the software or don't, but don't pay for basically pirated software.

        • XZ Utils was compromised for years and that's basically the root of all Linux compression. If it wasn't for Microsoft using it in Windows and M$'s contributions to Redhat/Debian, it probably would've gone undetected.

          Just because the code is hosted by GitHub doesn't mean someone hasn't snuck something in nefariously - especially in the case of using binaries.

  • +3

    There's two ways. Legit and not-legit.

    If you're buying a "cheap" key from wherever - be it for $2 or for $30, you may as well just activate it for free, it's very easy to do and can be found with google no hassles (no software, just a couple of cmd lines in terminal). Microsoft doesn't care about home users, it's just enterprises and wholesalers so you're at little to no risk.

    Otherwise, yes get it from a legit retailer, or just download and make a bootable installer from their website, and then buy a license from the MS Store and it'll link to your Microsoft account, it will follow your account to any new / other PC (obvs only one license) but that's the legit way and yes it's $170+. And no you don't need the pro version or whatever, Home is more than enough.

    I bought it and have a license linked to my MS account and it's very hassle free when I upgrade, change components, re-install etc. But honestly, activating for free is just as easy so next time I'd probably do that.

  • +6

    first thing when you get into windows, move the start menu back to the left side. it can be moved and should be moved!

    • -3

      And M$ will move it back next H2 update, because M$ knows better than you do.
      If you want UI customisation go back to XP.

  • Win10
    Win11

    Checkout these links.

  • -3

    cdkeysales.com

  • +2

    Thats part of the reason why all the second hand office PCs are such bargains.
    Many come with a Windows licence thats costs MORE standalone from Aussie shops lol.

  • -1
  • As otherrs have mentioned, activation scripts.

  • The amount of ad delivery and spyware on Windows 11 that Microsoft would be making money off more than pays for the license. Don't give them money on top of that for what is a bloated worse version of Windows 10.

  • +3

    To take your old key, Open Command Prompt and enter the command "wmic path softwarelicensingservice get OA3xOriginalProductKey" to display the original Windows key stored in your computer's BIOS or UEFI firmware

    Then use this after the installation process to activate it.
    You can also use the auto upgrade script to update it to the latest Windows version, even if win update is being difficult:
    https://github.com/AveYo/MediaCreationTool.bat

  • +2

    You dont need a key.

  • +3

    Just install Linux - more reliable, just as easy to use, no f#$kin' advertising…
    Win, win (without the 'dows)

    Flaming begin….

    • Good luck picking one! There are more distros than cereal boxes, and their ridiculous names make it worse.

      I'm using one called YouBumToo or something…

  • -1

    Wasn’t there a site on reddit?
    Can’t remember but similar (non)legitimacy to some of the sources posted here
    Not sure if it’s still around and can’t check atm sorry

  • -4
    • Anytime a Microsoft product is being sold for a fraction of the normal retail price, it is being sold illegally. You'll get a genuine product key, but the keys are being sold illegally. Every single time without exception. You can choose not to believe me if you want, but this has been discussed here before. I've also spent many hours Googling trying find if any cheap product keys are being sold legally. But the reality if that they never are.

      While in this case, the the offer is coming from StackSocial which is a legit website, the keys themselves will be coming from some little known seller of cheap product keys.

    • +1

      Something else to add too, is that this deal is a ripoff. You can buy the same dodgy Windows 11 product keys elsewhere for less than $2.

    • +2

      legit as in will probably work, yup. Legit as in a legal license HELL NO. but if you are going the dodgy route why would you pay such an exorbitant price.

  • Go to https://massgrave.dev/genuine-installation-media and follow the instructions. Easy as. I've been using this for years to get people's old PCs back up and running. I assume Microsoft are mainly interested in people using their operating system so data can be mined from the end user. If people choose to buy it as well, that's just a bonus.

    • +1

      You can download setup files direct from ms, including the click 2 run unattended setup version, eg. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/custo…

    • +1

      never download media from a 3rd party if there is a choice. It is basically begging for you to be compromised. The site offers the MS links in addition to its own, use those not the massgrave ones.

    • +1

      Damn it, I used the wrong link. https://massgrave.dev/ is for activation. I didn't mean to link windows download media. I'm pretty sure that link is right, it's been a while since I've needed to use it.

  • +4

    You can download win11 and install it without an active licence for as long as you like.

    I've been running a non activated version for over a year and all I've found is that you won't be able to change the theme colour and use the native remote desktop software. Literally everything else works as normal.

  • ? Vaguely remember something like this when I built my Ryzen PC. It seemed like you needed to pay, but you just install and run unactivated.

  • -4

    Questions to ask yourself. Do you need to stay on windows platform ? Do I value my privacy ? Remember kiddies both apple and Microsoft going down the AI path so none of your data is private. End to End encryption and vpn will be bypassed.As another poster mention Linux is alternative if ticks all the boxes. Do your research first. you try can try Linux with installing it.

  • get the physical license key off old computer ( win 7 8 8.1 or 10) and see it works on the new computer, if it does - all good,
    did this before destroying old win 7 computers for new Intel nuc win 10/11 worked without a hitch, only works once though

    • +3

      Microsoft finally stopped the free upgrade from Windows 7 and 8 some time ago. PCs with Windows 10 won't have a product key on them.

  • +2

    Is it possible to transfer the Windows 11 license from one PC to another?

    As others have said, it maybe be technically possible, but it’s not legitimate.

    If you are so inclined, there is no benefit to paying $170 for an old PC to scrape its product key or paying $15 for a pirated key, when MAS exists. They are all as illegitimate as each other.

    BTW, it is only the OEM version that is not transferable. If you buy the retail product, it does have transfer rights to other PCs.

    On top of the whole build, what percentage is the $170 for a legitimate copy of Windows?

    • It's like 20% of the cost of the build. A guess once I add a GPU it will be 10-15% of the cost of the build. Still a fair bit.

      • +1

        Yeah it’s a fair chunk but it’s a necessary evil.

        If not, how did you get Windows 11, do you just go to the Microsoft site, pay $170 and download it to a USB drive then stick it in the new PC?

        Basically you buy it, get a key, and then go to https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/software-download/windows11
        On another PC and download the media creation tool, it will put all the bits it needs on a USB stick, and you tell the new PC to boot from the USB stick.

  • Migrate to Linux, for free and forever.

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