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Mainly just posting this because it's an all around better deal than https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/865666 imo
Better cpu
4050 at 95w actually performs better than a 4060 @ 45w
better build quality
cheaper
Waiting for comments on this RTX2050
Would people consider 2050 as decent?
For light gaming, and I mean light. Would be fine for the kids to play Minecraft or even Fortnite, at a pinch. AMD cards micturate all over Nvidia at this price point. If you want a good Nvidia card right now you have to pay through the nose.
Sorry 2050 is
Trashhhhhhhhhhh
Same with the 3050
4050 is really the bare min for decent gaming
I second this
Its also $400 or 34% cheaper.
Would it be ok for the SIMS or new Age of Empires/Mythology?
Would this (Lenovo LOQ 15" i5 16GB 512GB RTX 2050 4GB Gaming Laptop 82XV00RPAU $732) be fine for my non-gaming parents who are looking to replace a 6 year old Dell 15.6" with a failing hard drive?
From what I can tell it has a better screen than similarly priced "everyday" laptops with poor colour reproduction.
They are happy to spend up to $1000.
what's the spec? / Model?
they'd be surprised, if there's no other issues on the laptop, replace the drive and, voila!, new laptop!
fair chance it's an old school spinning platter SATA drive in there, so ANY SSD will make a mahooosive difference.
Really, do it, I kept an old i5 Geforce MX250 laptop for nearly a decade, just add memory and SSD..
and, it's EASY - windows allows a 'backup' and restore function, it's not comprehensive, but gets most stuff back
Agree heartily with this. It's worth doing
Also agree. And if you get a Samsung SSD (you will need an external disk enclosure also) you can use their data migration software to clone the drive so it is exactly the same as it is now…just faster. A clean install is better, but if they are not great on change, this works well.
I've done a few of these upgrades and it does add fresh life to a laptop.
Steps:
1. If removable battery then remove it.
2. If not then after carefully undoing the bottom screens and unclipping the edges (it's put a credit card in and go around the edges to unclip the plastic tabs.) first thing it to take off the Battery wire. This will minimise the risk of electrical damage from a unintended boot while updating the innards.
3. Max out the ram (16 GB is pretty good these days)
4. 1 TB SATA SSD for the HDD upgrade.
If this is a first time thing for you there are alot of Youtube videos on upgrading laptops so type: Dell Model xxx upgrade RAM and Hard Drive.
This is a lot older and a fair bit slower, but if you don't need the performance it'd still be pretty good.
Still more than fast enough for anything you do on a laptop on battery.
Is this the best option available at this price range? Looking for a laptop for simple office tasks and Youtube/Netflix. No gaming.
You say that it's a better deal, but is it msi THIN?
"Thin" is Apple's marketing trick. Usability/repairability/upgradability matters more.
Spec wise Thin is better but for build quality and reliability, Lenovo sure is much better!
No, spec wise this is better the thin has a 45w 4060 which is worse than this, not to mention the cpu is much better
https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-5-7535HS-Processor-B…
vs
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-13620H-Processor…
Yes.
As already been mentioned, 4050 at 95w scales better than the 45w in the MSI Thin. That extra 2gb vram doesn't mean much when the card is stretched this thin power wise. The nominal wattage a 4060 mobile needs is ~100w.
13620H is a refreshed 12650H, except it actually comes with small but visible gains to the former, unlike the 7535H which is literally a rebadged 6600H except with tiny updated max boost clock (0.05ghz, identical benchmark scores however), larger 24MB L3 cache also helps in games.
And then you have to consider the MSI Thin have only one ssd slot leaving no room for upgrade, worse cooling and all that.
It is by far the worst budget gaming laptop out there.
Low end MSI (MSI Thin and near identical chassis have been refreshed many times over many years and marketed under different names) < Gigabyte G (rebaged, aged low end Clevo Chassis) / Victus 15 (single ssd slot), Nitro V (lower 75w gpu wattage for most/all of the prior listed) < LOQ/TUF/Nitro 5/Victus 16 (two SSD slot, proper 100w~ gpu wattage, access to decent screen options. etc)
How's the thermals v battery life (non gaming)?
Thermals on neither will be that good.
Normally, zen3+ should provide that battery life advantage, but when both have a small battery, the msi smaller at 53.5wh vs 60wh. You are not looking at a lot for both.
I got the ryzen 7 variant of this laptop it broke 6 months in and a replacement had to be sent
Seems like a weird combo. If they went with a i5 it'd probably cost under 1k and perform about the same.
Very true
$1000 after trs… bargain???
I thought it has to be $900 or under to claim trs .
huh? 900 is the allowance we get per person to bring stuffs back
Has thunderbolt 4? Also hdmi is 2.1 or 2.0?
USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 (support data transfer, Power Delivery 140W and DisplayPort™ 1.4)
Is that thunderbolt 4? Edit..not.
Is this gonna run EA FC smoothly? and m.2 ssd be added?
yes and yes
Asus TUF Gaming Laptop FA506ICB-HN114W R7 4800H 32GB RAM 512GB SSD 15.6" RTX3050
is it better then what I have now and do you know if i can upgrade to rtx 4060? Thanks
Probably not a huge upgrade from 3050 to 4050. Laptop GPUs/CPUs can not be upgraded (except for extreme cases of large customs by clevo) I'd say hold off and save to get up to a 4060 at least (not the crappy 45W one in the MSI deal) or for next gen GPUs coming early next year (will obviously be heaps expensive but will come down slowly)
@DuckWearingTopHat: I disagree, I went from 3060 to 4050, and I reckon the 4050 is way better than the 3060 if the CPU is decent, and you're playing on 1080p/FHD.
If nothing else, the power consumption and heat output is much better, and with fg you're laughing.
@Tavisophical: According to Jarrod's tech comparison (think when the 4050 came out) the 3060 is between 5-10% faster than the 4050… Reckon you've had more variables changing than just the GPU. Fine if you are buying from nothing but makes no sense as an "upgrade"
Noting on that both were max power 140W so if you went from a 60W 3060 to a 100W+ 4050 it would seem like an upgrade
@DuckWearingTopHat: All I want to do is play ea fc without lag, it lags hard on 3060 with ultra settings on
Ithink so. Medium no problemo
"Product Weight (kg) 264.8". Damn heavy eh
Could a psvr2 be connected up to this and VR games be played?
45% NTSC.
Thats the biggest problem. Unless this thing goes $800 then will be a nice buy
Can the RAM and SSD be upgraded in the future?
Topcashbqck 15% lenovo but the cheapest on lenovo website is $1339 with 12th gen.. this one still cheaper from ebay
Pretty Heavy: 264.8 kg!!
Good price given I just bought the 2050 one for the same money lol (needed it for a comparison video and couldn't wait for a better sale).
what would you do with all those laptops after youtube/review?
Either keep if I think I can use them for future content, or sell for a loss (which is made up from the content through ads/affiliate sales etc).
Hah i wish im your friend! 3 months and still looking to upgrade my i9
if people aren't too keen on eBay, Lenovo direct has some OK offers……
https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/p/laptops/loq-laptops/lenovo-lo… is available for $1,339 including GST and delivery at Lenovo
BUT, 15% shopback cashback (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/865716) so becomes pretty much the same as this ($1,138.15 delivered!)
i5-12450HX though, vs i7-13620H of this so about 25% less performance
that was with a 5 minute google, i'm sure you lot will find something better!
ebay better you dont have to gamble with cashback in 3 months time
Laptop gpu choice must be incredibly confusing for anyone without their finger on the pulse. All these GPU's with same general product name with vastly differing ability based on ram/tdp/shader units/memory bus etc.
Then when you start getting rtx4050 at configurations that outperform or equal their supposed big brother rtx4060… crazy times and a nightmare for consumers and any capable salesperson attempting to explain the differences.
also: Lenovo LOQ 15" i5 16GB 512GB RTX 2050 4GB Gaming Laptop 82XV00RPAU $732