Recently been looking for sales for 1821+ and 923+. Couldn’t get anything lower than $800/$1600 respectively.
Computer Alliance used to run 22% promotions on eBay now they have jacked up their price on eBay and it’s unable to get $750 deal for 923+
The cheapest of 1821+ was around $1400, which I can afford. But now it’s sitting on $1600.
Can anyone help me get a better price online/ in Perth?
Even without eBay sales, the price is still jacked up.
Computer appliance says eBay increased their pricing so they are not going to match their store price in eBay at all.
So they jacked 20% even if there is a promotion, it’s not gonna be lower at all
I wish 923+ back to $600 - amazon
i regret didnt buy
Having used a pre-built Synology NAS previously, I would never go back. Better to just build your own for value and functionality. There are also other reasons, e.g. not being tied into a manufacturer, use of proprietary components (e.g. their power supply), which is antithetical to how enterprise hardware should be supported. Also the lack of expandability is a bit of a pain, e.g. only being able to use own-brand network cards if you want 10Gbe support, or not having lots of options for using fibre (SFP).
Security is also becoming an increasing issue, several of Synology's competitors have had major security issues (e.g. see https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/02/thous…), and the reality is that some of the convenience features offered by these NAS boxes (e.g. remote access) are rather risky, particularly for home users who are not aware of the risks.
Since migrating to Linux with TrueNAS SCALE, it's been a much better product with better hardware support and features vs. when they were FreeBSD-based. You can easily build a DIY NAS for less than a 923+, with more bays than a 1821+, better performance, more scalability and more flexibility. There's a learning curve, but getting up and running is pretty easy for a weekend project - you can always add more features and functionality as you go. There are certain things you will need to DIY, e.g. setting up a VPN if you want remote access, but setting it up / learning will make you much more familiar with the risks and put you in a position to decide the risks you wish to take with your network and your data.
Something like the below should be great - rationale for parts:
CPU - realistically any modern CPU should be perfectly fine - better to have an iGPU for easier setup, but if you . If you want Plex transcoding, you might wish to go with an Intel CPU with QuickSync, so something like the i5 12400 should be a good option.
Motherboard - one of the few B550 boards with 8+ SATA ports, so should be perfect for a NAS. Pairs well with the Fractal Design Node 804 case, which can natively hold up to 8 drives (and potentially more if you follow some online guides).
RAM - ZFS loves lots of RAM, I would say that given DDR4 prices, 64GB is an absolute minimum. The other nice thing about Ryzen is that you can also consider ECC RAM, the extent to which this matters is debatable, but my general opinion is that if you're happy entrusting your data to a Synology NAS, then you should be fine with non-ECC RAM.
| Type | Item | Price |
|---|---|---|
| CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor | $186.77 @ JW Computers |
| Motherboard | MSI PRO B550M-VC WIFI Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $197.38 @ Amazon Australia |
| Memory | Crucial Pro 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL22 Memory | $172.97 @ Amazon Australia |
| Storage | Patriot P300 128 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive | $23.79 @ Amazon Australia |
| Case | Fractal Design Node 804 MicroATX Mid Tower Case | $199.00 @ PCCaseGear |
| Power Supply | Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 ARGB 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $109.00 @ MSY Technology |
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | ||
| Total | $888.91 | |
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-08-18 00:35 AEST+1000 |
wow thanks very good info. but after checking i prefer Jonsbo N2 as i just need 5 bays max and need smallest size as possible.
question: i find with non synology, (in your case trueNAS) the fact that we need to have exact same size of HDD is kind of major disadvantage, i mean for example we start with 4x 8tb hdd but in 10 years from now when one dies probably there are no 8tb on the market anymore. then how? replace all? that would be costly.
Are you sure it's not minimum size?
Yes but we will lost some capacity if mix and match hdd different sizes, as far as i know only synology, terra os, and unraid can mix without losing. Too bad unraid is not free
i prefer Jonsbo N2 as i just need 5 bays max and need smallest size as possible
This seems to be an mITX case, so you'll need to go for an mITX motherboard instead of an mATX one like I suggested, but there are plenty of options.
i find with non synology, (in your case trueNAS) the fact that we need to have exact same size of HDD is kind of major disadvantage
Yes and no, there are disadvantages (performance and otherwise) of using mismatched HDD sizes. However, that being said, you could choose to use Unraid (or similar) on a DIY solution and be able to use mismatched HDD sizes.
I think the decision you'll need to make (ultimately) is whether you want to go with ZFS, which was designed as an enterprise file system for storage clusters (as in, a file system the big banks would use, for instance). It's incredibly reliable and well documented, but it wasn't designed with the "creature comforts" of home use in mind.
i mean for example we start with 4x 8tb hdd but in 10 years from now when one dies probably there are no 8tb on the market anymore
There are a couple of ways to approach it.
Simplest would be to buy cold spares, so buy an extra drive that you would store away to swap in when there's a failure.
Otherwise, I would highly doubt that you would struggle to find 8TB drives in 10 years time. You can still buy 2TB drives today, for instance.
mITX motherboard
Thanks will check later when i ready.
Too bad unraid isnt free. seems a very friendly o/s.
First i need to make sure everything i can do on synology, i can do them in truenas.
@p1 ama hi i saw many YouTube recommend topton mobo with intel n5105. Is this decent enough for plex, dockers (arrs) with truenas? And Maybe one vm windows if can but not a must
Jonsbo N4 is the newer model
Fits 6x 3.5" and 2x 2.5"
Nice. Not that I would have tons of data to play around with. Is it recommended to use it as a PC for browsing / streaming?
And what ECC would go with this MB?
Thank you
I'm in the same boat except I'm between 923 and 1522. I've been keeping an eye for the last 3 months and the cheapest I saw the 923 was about $840 on Centre Com.
On Ebay I don't see either device, with discount, dropping any where close to Amazon especially the 1522.
Amazon is one of the cheaper places at the moment along with a few online computer retailers (seen on Static Ice), but again no where close to what you're after.
Personally I'll bite on around $850 for the 923, or less than $1100 for the 1522. Hopefully I don't have to wait till Black friday.
923 was 600 on amazon :(
I'm going to buy some camera gear and applied for this credit card to reduce costs.
Check afterpay deals or zip pay. ebay sales are with jacked up prices almost every time.