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Honda NAVi $200 off with "Honda Dollars": from $2,597 Rideaway for NT @ Honda Dealers

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This is basically the cheapest road legal "motorcycle" you can buy in Australia.

Learner Approved Motorcycle Scheme (LAMS)
Automatic CVT Transmission
Integrated waterproof storage compartment
Low 765mm seat height
Combined Braking System (CBS)
2 Year Warranty
Available in Patriot Red, Shasta White, Ranger Green, and Neon Pink.

Prices vary state to state
Prices shown include the $200 price reduction
QLD: $3,046
NSW: $2,805
NT: $2,597
VIC: $2,939
SA: $2,651
WA: $2,886
TAS: $2,764

This price is comprised of the Manufacturer's Recommended List Price for a private buyer residing in the capital city of your State, 12 months registration, 12 months compulsory third party insurance, stamp duty, administration charges, and a recommended dealer delivery fee.

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  • +8

    I still cant get over the fact its running drum brakes

    • -1

      Cable operated drum brakes!

      • +1

        With two cables to the drum arm - whats that about?

        • +1

          Combined Braking System.

          2 brakes, 1 lever and a handbrake.

      • +5

        how did anyone survive 100 years of riding bikes with cable operated drum brakes?

        • unfortunately many did not.

          • +1

            @ozhunter68: do you find it incredibly difficult to ride with cable drum brakes?

            • +6

              @rooster7777: Yes it's hard to keep in time without drumsticks

              • +1

                @theHMASfriendship: I'm thinking some folks should be putting a clothes peg on the spokes of their bikes… so it goes ping ping ping as they push the pedals!

            • @rooster7777: I was being sarcastic, meaning not many motorbike riders with drum brakes survived

              as most are dead from accidents. Maybe not a funny joke as I personally nearly died having

              a motorcycle accident on a Suzuki GSXR 750 with great Disc brakes front and back.

              P.S. Never had a motorbike with drum brakes, old push bike yes.

              My electric scooter has disc and rear internal (maybe electric or drum?) which works well though.

              • +2

                @ozhunter68: I think you contradicted your own bollocks statement. You tell us you nearly died on an oil cooled suzuki 750 gixxer WITH disc brakes. Either your near demise was caused by some not brake dilemma… or you're an incredibly incompetent rider… or both.

                To say that "most motorbike riders with drum brakes are dead from accidents" can only be treated with contempt. I've lost a few friends and associates in bike accidents, but none were due to having drum brakes.

                I'd say it's clear as day you've never ridden a (motor) bike with drum brakes, given your complete lack of understanding of their use and effectiveness.

                I've had more bikes with cable drum brakes than I have had bikes with 1 or more disk brakes. It's too hard to count the drum brake bikes (more than 11 up to 650s)…. but I've had/ got 7 bikes with at least 1 disk…. ranging from a crap CB360 to TX and XJ750 yams, 750 water bottle, and 750 monster. Many T500 suzukis were notorious for poor front brakes….including all the ones I owned. It's arguable if a better front brake would have avoided either of the 2 notable accidents I had on them…. but their bad front drums were peculiar to them, not repeated in any other front drummer.

                Before the late 70s there were a lot more deaths in australia on bikes (and cars) than after, per head. This was mainly due to selective reduction of, and rigorous enforcement of speed limits, as well as road improvements, and alcohol reduction.

                People with any knowledge of motorcyling history will be aware of the ability of drum brakes to work on bikes. Joe Eastmure's victory in the 1972 castrol 6 hour race on a T350 (315cc) drum braked suzuki twin, defeating every other bike (which all had disk brakes) including big 4 cylinder bikes.

                The single most notable drawback of drum brakes is brake fade from repeated high speed hard braking. Anyone that believes that small capacity scooter like bikes such as the honda navi will suffer after repeated high speed hard braking is dreaming…. the things only do about 80Ks.

                Your comments about drum brakes show as much wisdom as the (profanity) who think drum brakes on the rear of 4 wheel commuters should be outlawed.

      • There's an interesting test…. I wonder if anyone can find 1 motorbike in history with drum brakes…. that aren't operated by cable?
        Well… apart from the rod operated rear drums.

    • +9

      Not all that uncommon in the (low end) motorcycle world

    • I read this and thought "surely just rears which doesnt matter" so i went for a look. That is wild. With a lot of cheaper bikes being discontinued because of ABS requirements.

    • Get CB125 if need disc brakes for a bit more

  • +5

    Wow cheaper than some ebikes!

    • +7

      Also a lot cheaper to service and maintain than e-bikes and pedal pushbikes.

      Motorcycle/scooter chains, brake pads, tyres and other high wear parts last 5-10x more Kilometers than a pushbikes counterpart.

      Rego, insurance, fuel and service costs for my small capacity motorcycle cost less than a few sets of pads, brake blades, a couple of chains, cassette, 4 tyres, a fork overhaul, and a couple of services each year.

      • +2

        How much would you spend on fuel in a year? Is that riding most days or more of a weekender? Just wondering.

        I would guess a pushie is still cheaper, 2.5k is quite a lot really. 1k gets you something half decent. Chains and pads aren't that much. Not sure if you're counting safety gear for a motorbike but isn't that a couple grand?

        • +2

          I've done 11,800 km on the motorbike in 2 years. I change the oil myself every 2,000km and get a mechanic to service it every 6k. So far have spent $405 on fuel, $150 on a service, $60 on 4L of oil. $80 on a new chain and $50 on a new rear tyre. Will need another $150 service soon.

          Thats $895 for 11,800km of riding. Riding gear ~$350 for helmet and $400 for jacket, pants and gloves.

          My MTB cost more than my motorbike to purchase. Pads, chains, cassettes, and tyres wear out much quicker. Parts are more expensive. Services (fork and rear shock) are very expensive. Major services costs more than $1000 and that's with me supplying parts, and doing all the maintenance and small services myself. One MTB event in the wet can wear through several sets of pads in a day, and totally ruin the brake calipers and drive train and cost over a grand to repair/replace parts.

          I'd be spending at least $1000 to maintain my MTB every 5,000km. Helmet $200, Shoes $150

          • +1

            @frugalferret: Just what the world needs….more frugal ferrets! Good work!

          • @frugalferret: That's pretty good for the motorbike. My mate got his motorbike helmet for $800 I think (several years ago) so I was thinking the gear would cost a lot more. I might remember incorrectly or he was the victim of a pushy sales man.

            I spend a fair bit less on my bike but it is a gravel bike so less to go wrong and I guess gets an easier life than your mtb. I try to do the easier maintenance myself as I do somewhat remote trips and it's good to have the skills if something goes wrong (but sometimes I get lazy and its just easier to pay the professionals). Probably no more than 400-500 a year or so on maintenance but I don't really keep track. I did spend a bit on bike packing gear but nothing crazy and not sure if that counts as a bike cost.

            Anyway happy riding!

  • +7

    110cc is dangerous if you're leaving the CBD and hope to overtake anything at 60kms or above, especially considering how much drivers seem to want ride up your tail or give you little to no room for merging.

    • +11

      it's not too bad, CVT and only 100KG wet weight… this thing will beat off the line pretty much most city cars.

      I expect these things will be a hit with uber eats delivery riders.

    • +15

      Not as dangerous as illegal e-bikes doing 40-50km uninsured along residential footpaths

      • +3

        1 grumpy officer and the fines will cost more than this bike.

      • +5

        It's similarly powered to all the popular scooters ridden by food delivery riders. Honda Dio, Kymco Agility, Suzuki Address, etc.

      • +13

        It's perfect for the city. Ride like you're invisible (not invincible), and never assume that other vehicles have seen you.

        Filleting your way to the front of the queue in slow moving out stopped traffic minimises chances of you from being sandwiched by distracted drivers.

        City riding doesn't require high powered bikes to distance yourself from dangerous situations. Ride smart.

      • +7

        Anything less than a hayabusa really

    • +1

      I used to ride a Yamaha Aerox100 and it would beat any car from the lights. Would do 90 so could also do short freeway runs.

      • -1

        Till I had to do full throttle for about 10 minutes down M4…and promptly burnt a hole on the piston head the size of a 10 cent coin. The 2 stroker yeah? Hmm..or was mine Aerox 50… Anyway.

        • +8

          You made this up.

      • What's the 0-100 figure on the Yamaha?

    • +2

      I had a cbr125, would struggle to do 100kmph with a headwind. Off the freeway it was fine though.

    • +1

      I'm waiting for someone to complain about vehicles travelling at 60 kph outside the CBD.

    • If my commute didn't include the freeway I'd be all over a 110cc bike. Alas, I'm forced to ride a 390.

  • +1

    Do you need a motorcycle licence for these?

    • +4

      Yes.

    • In most states you need one to ride anything motorised, 2 wheeled. SA lets you ride a 50cc on a car licence, nothing bigger.

      • WA you can ride 50cc twist and go on a car licence as well. I assumed that was Australia wide.

        • might just be the less populated states then

  • +2

    A recent review I found. US model. Very similar.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzmIABgIYUs

    • +11

      What a stupid comment. Not everyone needs 650 ccm. Especially elderly people or beginners.

      • Not stupid, I'd never recommend such small rims for a beginner.

        Engine size I'd also lean toward larger capacity, but limited highway not that important. But I wouldn't state a specific brand or model.

          • @seamonkey: I wouldn't ride it on the Princess either or on dirt, poor roads etc.it's of limited use = to an ebike.

        • +13

          Have been riding almost 20 years, Australia and overseas, bikes and scooters of all sizes. 110 is fine in Melbourne and Sydney.

          • +6

            @Marcuspt: Yeah but how you gonna impress dudes on the internet with a 110cc motorbike?

          • +1

            @Marcuspt: same,I quite like thin tyres small engine in town. its the overall size of bikes that have shrunk to jockey sizes. My 90s 250cc looks huge compared to similar 2024 models

  • +1

    It's getting hard to find street parking near train stations nowadays. Maybe this makes it easier?

    I'm assuming insurance won't cost much? Annual rego?

    • +4

      Just park on CURB! (Expecting at least 30 negs and will be very disappointed if received less) LOL

      • +3

        Just park on the CURVE?

        • What if the road is straight?

      • Not allowed in Sydney

        • +1

          Sometimes you've got to do what you've got to do… when you're picking up the kids from school… in an SUV

  • +1

    Neck and neck with the lil 125cc Braaap.

    Very impressive on the price incl. 12 months rego

    • +2

      This looks much more like a scooter than a motorbike. I initially thought this would be more similar to the Grom.

      • It essentially is a scooter or step through motorcycle.

    • +3

      Except Honda wasn't taken to fair work for forcing an apprentice to do customer vehicle servicing unsupervised, unmentored, then firing them when they complained. During which the presiding judge/commissioner/whatever found a high level person in the business (the guys mum, from memory) tried to deliberately lie to the investigators, dragged another staff member into the pot trying to get them to also lie to investigators, all to throw the employee under the bus.

      It's actually comical reading the low-iq messages sent between them, with absolutely no thought to the fact the government can, you know, read your sms's? https://netrider.net.au/threads/braaap-motorcycles-going-out…

      Then there's : https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/former-young-aust…

      and : https://www.facebook.com/thevigilantenews/posts/bullshitter-…

      Convicted in court for rebirthing frankenbikes without genuine parts, it reads. https://infomoto.com.au/features/rise-and-fall-the-strange-h…

      So, yeah. When you're getting A honda for the equivalent of a Braap, you are getting a very. Very. Very good deal.

      • While I 100% agree with you, citing "The Vigilante News" as a reputable source is laughable

    • +1

      This would be 10x more reliable than a Braaap

  • +2

    For what maybe cents of cost savings, they're using drum brakes instead of disk… Sounds about right.

  • +1

    I rode a 50cc Yamaha scooter for 4 years as my only form of transport.

    This 110cc scooter is actually heavier and more powerful than my old scooter.

    Like my old scooter, the Honda Navi 110cc has a kick starter.

  • -4

    110cc wow wtf

  • 3.5 Litre tank. How far would that get you?

    • +6

      ~150km or so it would seem. Is that like 2.3L/100km? Fairly impressive anyway, that's a good distance.

    • +4

      Its got 17l of waterproof storage apparently so just buy some fuel line and boom 700km+

  • +4

    Their marketing seriously missed 2 Honda dollars off?

  • My electric scooter dragon predator was 2300 and goes up to 70 km/h no fuel required no insurance no oil

    • +1

      no protective gear?

      Best of luck in a crash with no CTP, insurance, etc.

    • +3

      you missed the bit about illegal to use on a public road…. and resultant prosecution

    • ok

  • +3

    Good scooter nonetheless I could do 60 on the riverside expressway on my 49cc Piag scooter this thing must fly

  • -1

    low bike might be dangerous as some cars might not see you.

    • +1

      There are plenty of bikes that sit lower than 765mm. Particularly cruisers.

    • +4

      Some cars won't see you regardless of the height.

      When riding a motorbike, always assume that NONE of them have seen you.

  • +1

    Good price for a home to shop or gym setup.. but for that electric bikes may be cheaper and better since no rego or insurance needed ..may want to look at the Honda MX125 (Grom) or Kawasaki Z125 or Benelli tornado tnt 125 for home to office commute but they come at a higher price ..for what it is ..a carby 2 wheeler with drum brakes and Honda this is an awesome deal though ..None of the bikes I have mentioned or the Navi are suitable for freeways though ..electric bikes are a way better choice for short inner city commutes

    • +1

      Pretty sure you can't buy groms or z125 anymore. Maybe still find some old stock Benelli, my local shop has a couple.

      • +1

        The Benelli is still widely available. $3,999 rideaway in NSW.

  • +1

    Be sure to check the service intervals and how much they cost.

    https://maintenanceschedule.com/honda-navi-nva110-maintenanc…

    It's every three to four thousand km. You could quickly spend more on servicing than the bike costs.

    • Yeah every 4k KMs (after the initial 1k inspection). You'd probably be surprised how long it would take to rack up 4k KMs considering you'd just be using this as a run about.

      Doesn't seem like it has an oil filter either, just a washable "oil screen", so service consumables would be cheap as… I wouldn't expect more than 1hr Labor either if you were paying someone to do it.

      • +1

        be a good opportunity for self development…. buying a spanner (if it doesn't have a toolkit to cover it) and do your own oil changes.

        • Yeah doesn't get much simpler than an oil change on a bike like this

  • +1

    Annual rego is $592 in QLD vs $172 in NT!

  • I weigh around 140kg. Would this thing be able to move me or will I sit away what little performance it has?

    • +4

      I would suggest walking. On a regular basis.

      • +1

        Maybe cycling. On a non-electric bicycle will help with your use case

      • +1

        Thank you for the suggestion. I've won a few national jiu jitsu titles in recent years so while I am quite heavy compared to most people, I'm also capable of walking long distances without going into cardiac arrest, and probably have a similar BF percentage to you.

        • Gezuz, if you really aren't just a fat c**t (no offence meant here) and actually are stacked like you claim, you must be like 6ft 8 or something to be 140kg and muscle.

  • Verdict is in - Hondas are great bikes but go for something else, even if you think it’s a good city runabout

    https://youtu.be/dsNMoO02jhM

    • +3

      I looked at that review. The reviewer is a fool.
      I can't be stuffed looking at any other videos he's done… but I can understand why after 1 year he's only got 3K subscribers.

  • +1

    Would love one of these, but I live rural and have to take a 100km/h highway to get anywhere. As it is, my SRV250 sits at 8000rpm just to keep up with traffic, which is um… uncomfortable.

  • +1

    'Wheel Size Front:- 304.8 mm, Rear:- 254 mm' - https://www.bikedekho.com/honda/navi/specifications

    this looks like what I call a 'monkey bike' - a tiny thing with tiny wheels you look like a circus monkey perched on top of

    for a start the tiny wheels are gonna feel every tiny bump on the road.

    • 10 and 12 inch wheels. Similar to the 10inch of every vespa/ lambretta/ rabbit and other motor scooter of yesteryear. At least the roads tend to be a lot better now…. and it does have suspension.

  • Also just spotted that this is carb and not even EFI….had thought they'd just take the grom engine and pop a CVT on it or just re-use one of the many scooter-based variants of their existing OHC EFI engine.

    • I'd say they've designed it to sell at a low price. What advantages would you expect if they added on EFI…. a few percent less fuel consumption for some more bucks?

      • +1

        From someone who has had to deal with blocked jets on carbs over the years Id say EFI is a very good upgrade to have. Can adjust fueling to suit the environment, no manual choke, good mileage, easy starts (especially when hot), less maintenance to name a few.

        But yeh, agree they've done this to a price point.

        • Interesting comparison…. I haven't had much trouble with carbys… and never had to buy an new one because the old one crapped itself on the side of the road. The only blockage problem I've had over many miles and a few Ks is when a good friend felt the need to piss in the tank of an old bsa. Karma is such a powerful effect.
          Throttle cable synchronisation… yep, that can be a bit of work on a multi. A manual choke was never a problem for me.

  • 2 wheeled transport. lol

  • +3

    Ah, the anecdotes of a lifetime …

    Last time I rode a mini-motorbike like this I had to carry a chain and padlock with me everywhere, because locking it wasn't enough, anyone could just pick it up and walk off with it. I had to attach it to something to make sure it'd still be there when I got back. And I had to ride up onto the footpath and press the pedestrian button at some intersections, because it didn't have enough metal in it to trip the sensor in the road that detected whether a vehicle was waiting.

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