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Philips ADD6921DG Mineral RO Water Station $1,169 (10% off) or 158,140 Pts (30% off) or Pts+Pay + Delivery @ Qantas Marketplace

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Mr. has had his eyes on this RO water station for the past few months. It seems to be either in limited stock or excluded from any discounts.

Reverse osmosis water station with compressor cooling, instant heating technology and remineralizer.

Just saw that the Qantas Marketplace is offering a 10% discount when paying with cash, and if you are a Points Club member, you will get an extra 5-10% on top of that. It works out to be a pretty good deal without having to worry about cashback or anything. 5% - $1,129

I thought I'd share in case anyone else is interested.

Currently, you also get 5x Qantas points for your spending, which is an extra 5,210 Qantas Frequent Flyer points, with Points Club member getting extra 1:$1 or 2:$1 points in addition.

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  • +1

    $1,169.00
    $1,299.00
    10% OFF
    or
    158,140 PTS
    225,920 PTS
    30% OFF

  • +3

    It is currently $1,169 on Qantas Market place without points. If you have the good guys commercial, it is $1,099. I purchased mine for $1317 back then with the Good Guys so this is a decent price. I used their store credit and they had $100 cash back via Phillips promo put mine at $1,187.

  • OP @hnix please place price in title (optional: reward points).

  • +3

    Don't use your points to buy anything from the store, add up the points to dollar value, speaking as someone close to the matter.
    Points are always much better value for airfares/airfare upgrades, only.

  • This looks like the perfect replacement for our instant hot water dispenser plus the barita filter dispenser that we use. Where does the waste water go if it isn't plumbed?

  • +2

    I got a plumber to install this for me. Way more powerful and way cheaper, especially for the replacement parts. No electricity required. Only reason to not use it is if your water pressure is not strong enough. Have installed it at two of my family's houses. https://www.amazon.com.au/Reverse-Osmosis-Changing-Deionizat…

    I had mine installed under the sink out of the way and my kitchen faucet replaced with a combo filter and normal faucet. Don't need to waste valuable counter space. My wastewater gets piped to my garden, so not wasted.
    All up cost me less than $500 which is less than 1/3. Don't forget to buy separately a TDS metre to actually check the before and after of your water quality

    • I am also looking to DIY replace my two filters system to RO, how much are the replacement filters?

    • This doesn't offer instant hot/chilled water though, so whilst still a way to filter way, it's an entirely different product.

    • Does it have to be installed under the sink? The space is kind of cramped already.

    • +1

      Installing an under sink RO system is like the easiest DIY you will ever do, they come in kits, all you need to do is turn off your mains, screw a few things off and back on and drill a couple holes

      • Installing an under sink RO system is like the easiest DIY you will

        That is why I am thinking to do, still looking what to buy from eBay or Amazon.

        Any suggestion?

        https://www.amazon.com.au/Geekpure-5-Stage-Reverse-Drinking-…

        https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/142536623362

        Just worry won't fit under sink

        • Ive installed a few of those 3 stage shield kits for friends , geekpure seems very similar, probably coming out of the same factories

      • The installation is quite easy to do…. however if you have a stone benchtop and not familiar with drilling stone, then you may want to consider twice before attempting to do so. As cracking it will cost you way more than simply paying somebody to install it.

    • +5

      RO Systems aren't as simple as that. Also the one you linked from Amazon isn't really that good.
      A good RO system should start with CBC Carbon Blocks and Sediment Filters, then into the RO, and finish off with inline GAC filters + optional mineraliser / alkaniser.

      The one you linked from Amazon only uses inline filters, which especially for Carbon is super inefficient and doesn't really do much. If we were to think about an analogy…. imagine a CBC Carbon Block filter as a low grit sandpaper…. it removes a lot of contaminants…. and a GAC inline carbon filter as a high grit sandpaper…. only used for polishing.

      Also you'd wanna pair a RO system with a pressurized tank, due to RO systems being super slow at processing water, you will have trickling water rather than flowing water if you directly use a RO System without a tank.

      In terms of water pressure, depending on how bad your water pressure is, it could either not work with RO or just make the RO system less efficient and more water will end up being waste. There is ways to fix this, either get a full house water pressure booster installed (~$1k for unit, and about $500 to install), or you can get a water pressure pump installed with the RO System just for that unit, but needs under sink power point.

      Standard RO systems are quite inefficient with water (alot of water going to waste), but there is a way to increase efficiency, which is to install a Permeate Pump (~$100), which is a powerless pump that generally significantly increases the water efficiency of the RO System.

      If you are interested, The RO system i use at home is: (I won't post a link to it, but if you are interested, message me and i can pass on some details on where to get it from), the following is listed in sequential order in terms of water getting filtered

      1x 10"x2.5" 0.5 micron spun sediment pre-filter.
      1x 10"x2.5" 0.5uM catalytic carbon pre-filter
      1x 75GPD RO TFC membrane made using materials sourced from the USA.
      1x 10”x2.5” post membrane DI filter
      1x post membrane silver infused anti-bacterial GAC water filter
      1x post membrane mineralising water filter
      1x post membrane high alkalising magnesium filter

      Obtained the entire kit including faucet + 12L tank and all fittings for $450

      Careful with buying cheap systems though, the best filters / components come from US or Taiwan. The cheap systems typically come from China which you will just have to trust their "own testing / certification". e.g. SHIELD on eBay is all chinese made components.

      • Thanks a lot would be keen to compare and maybe switch. I think I can reuse the plumbing components.

      • Just messaged you, thanks

  • +3

    QUALITY H2O!

    • -1

      Just like from a tap.

      • +1

        Tap has plastic and bits of corroding pipe. In Sydney inner west (Balmain, Annandale), I've had brown water. Literally fill a glass of water and it's pee color.

        • From infrastructure issues, it may last a short time. From your own property: it is maintenance issues. Like for a landlord to fix. Plastic seems fairly unlikely, but not impossible, unless a plastic pipe broke down.

          • +2

            @marcozmitch: I am the landlord. I can't replace the pipes from my house all the way up the street to Sydney water. I can replace my own house segment at most. Which is tens of thousands of dollars maybe. The filter I got cost me less than $500 installed. I prefer to spend my home improvement money on other things.

      • +1

        Like the stuff I use in my toilet?
        I wouldn't trust it

    • +2

      Water sucks, Gaterade is better

  • Picked up one of these in March from Amazon for $1104. An excellent buy and gets used every day. Anyone come across a good price on replacement cartridges (ADD583/79)?

    As an aside it reports the TDS in the water supply, turns out Melbourne water it not so good, I get between 350-650 TDS.

    • Is that TDS reading using the filter?

      • It gives you TDS in and out. Generally the unit reports under 40 TDS out.

        • I gather the lower the reading the better?

            • @mostlygordon: Thanks, this earlier quote had me guessing TDS was a contraction for turds.

              As an aside it reports the TDS in the water supply, turns out Melbourne water it not so good, I get between 350-650 TDS.

          • +1

            @Duece1995: It entirely depends what the solids are.

            "Dissolved solids" refer to any minerals, salts, metals, cations or anions dissolved in water. Total dissolved solids (TDS) comprise inorganic salts, principally calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium, bicarbonates, chlorides, and sulfates and some small amounts of organic matter that are dissolved in water.

            For the most part, it it isn't going to hurt to have more of those minerals so there is no point in removing them. It will also remove other spooky™ chemicals like fluoride (depending on the membranes, have a look at what this one claims) which some may prefer.

            • @EBC: So long as it gets rid of PFAS and Fluoride I'm happy.

        • +1

          My one gives me less than 5 TDS, https://www.amazon.com.au/Reverse-Osmosis-Changing-Deionizat…. Although I am starting with TDS in 70s

    • are you tipping out the waste water after tank empties?
      Tds of 100 (+ a bit extra from pipes) should be towards top end according to this.
      https://www.melbournewater.com.au/water-and-environment/wate…

      • I get similar numbers on the same machine. Anything between 300 to 450, in a newly built area with new infrastructure. Tipping waste water out every time. Melbourne water is 💩

  • How much are the cartridges?

    • +1

      Retail is $229. They are supposed to last around a year.

  • +2

    Why not buy an undersink RO from ebay, should be less than half the price.

    • I have mine close to the living room, so I drink more water than if I had to go to the kitchen. Also this does boiling and chilled water. I haven't checked, but I suspect a similar under sink would be pretty expensive.

      • Ah, it has a boiler and chiller. Got it.

    • +1

      This is the way, so easy to install and so much cheaper to replace filters

      • so easy to install

        yes

        so much cheaper to replace filters

        No, $229 a year is expensive.

        • You dont need RO every year. Just replacing sendiments and chlorine filter should be enough?

          • @[Deactivated]:

            Retail is $229. They are supposed to last around a year.

            Sorry I thought you were talking about the Philip

    • Some people actually need it. It's not about the "energy science". We have actual plastic and corroding things in our water. We don't all live in the same place.

    • "water from a tap is not cold or filtered…so cool it or filter it"

      And that's exactly what this machine does.

      • brita does the same thing for 10% of the price doesn't it?

        • Please link a Brita filtration system that does instant 100C water, 5C water, UV and reverse osmosis… for "10% of the price, that is $116.

  • -3

    It like making your own chocolate, from scratch, because of microscopic levels of cockroach or bug are in it from the manufacturing process.

    • +1

      I still eat Tim Tams, turns out those bugs are tasty;-)

  • -5

    And for all the negative voters, please explain the benefits of RO to everyone.

  • +1

    I'll add this to my shopping basket, along with the "XPPen ACK05 Shortcut Keyboard"….

    Seems like they've run out of ideas on useful things to make.

    • this is a different model compare to the Myer one.

  • Gatorade not only quenches your thirst better, it tastes better too.

  • +1

    I am pretty sure that the tap water for most Australians will be perfect for drinking. The only thing you may want to get rid of is chlorine. Since chlorine is a gas it will dissipate from the water if you leave it overnight. RO water is definitely not healthy to drink (hypotonic), so make sure that the mineraliser is working.

    • I am pretty sure that the tap water for most Australians will be perfect for drinking.

      Not really

      https://www.9news.com.au/national/toxic-water-australia-pfos…

    • So many wrong statements. lol
      Hypertonic isn't a bad thing if your aim is hydration.
      Also adding a mineralizer is more for the taste. Minerals in tap water only contribute to a very small / neglible percentage of daily mineral intake.

      As our bodies don't really process minerals in water that well and just ends up in urine. We get most of our minerals from what our food.

      • Well, on the topic of "wrong statements" I actually wrote hypotonic, which is the opposite of hypertonic. lol

        • Haha true. :)
          Although when i was researching RO systems and RO water before purchasing my system.
          General consensus was that RO water wasn't unhealthy, but there is obviously 2 camps to everything.

  • -1

    Bit from The Conversation link listed below:

    It has been very difficult to accurately track and measure effects of different levels of PFAS exposure on people. People may be exposed to PFAS chemicals in their everyday life through waterproofing of clothes, non-stick cookware coatings or through food and drinking water. PFAS can also be in pesticides, paints and cosmetics…

    Today’s news report cites PFOS and PFOA water tests done at many different water supplies across Australia. Some water samples did not detect either chemicals. But most did, with the highest PFOS concentration 15.1–15.6 parts per trillion from Glenunga, South Australia. The highest PFOA concentration was reported from a small water supply in western Sydney, where it was detected at 5.17–9.66 parts per trillion.

    Australia and the US are not alone. This is an enormous global problem…

    A filter may be advisable:(it did not say RO)

    https://www.9news.com.au/national/toxic-water-australia-pfos…

    Dr Nicholas Chartres, a senior research fellow at the University of Sydney, told Today Extra the US standard is "many magnitudes lower than the current level that we have in Australia".
    He said water filters can reduce levels of the chemicals but urged governments to take action by testing the water.

    https://theconversation.com/there-are-forever-chemicals-in-o…

    The bottom line for drinking tap water is to keep watching this space. Buying bottled water might not be effective (2021 US research detected PFAS in 39 out of 100 bottled waters). The USEPA suggests people can reduce PFAS exposure with measures including avoiding fish from contaminated waters and considering home filtration systems.

    Correction: this article previously listed the maximum Australian Drinking Water Guidelines PFOA level as 0.056 micrograms per litre. The figure has been updated to show the correct level of 0.56 micrograms per litre.

    In my (uninformed) advice above I said,"or filter it. Buy a PuraTap (in South Australia) or whatever." Part of the reason for not recommending RO is this: (Cons of RO: 5.1 1)Flat Taste.
    5.2 2)Good Mineral Removal.
    5.3 3)High Waste Water Volume.
    5.4 4)Slow Filtration Rate.
    5.5 5)High Initial Cost.
    5.6 6)High Maintenance Costs.
    5.7 7)Acidic pH of Water.

    Other simliar or same type con listings of RO:
    Reverse Osmosis systems excel at removing water impurities but one of the major disadvantages of RO systems is that they remove 92-99% minerals from the water such as beneficial calcium and magnesium similar to distilled water.24 Aug 2023

    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/healthcare/bio…

    • RO Systems do that, but also you can add mineralising / alkanising filters after the RO membrane to re-add it back in.

  • -2

    Here is a deep dive from Quora: until I can read some research myself:
    https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-under-co…

    • did a RO water filter hurt you? you've gone on quite the rampage in here.

      • -1

        Not in slightest.
        A fairly silly thing for you to say.
        Not a rampage.
        Another extreme statement from you.
        Years ago before RO was big thing it is now, (more than 10 years ago); it was claimed by Multi-Level-Marketing acquaintances (like a bad version of Amway), that I knew, who made unsupported health claims around Rheumatoid Athrititis and other medical condtitons in relation to RO.
        It was B.S. and used to sign people up to the company selling them.
        PFAS contamination and other chemicals were not part of the discussion then.
        I do think wasting water and energy on an expensive process can be a waste, considering this is OzBargain.
        I like filtered water myself, but don't do RO and do agree in some areas in Australia the water is bad and governments are responsible for fixing that.

        • I do agree with the statement "governments are responsible for fixing that" however the problem is they aren't being held responsible and it could be years / decades before they are made responsible and do something about it.

          I rather take action myself than to wait until that day comes when the government is accountable and takes action to fix it.

  • +1

    Ended up getting one from TGGC. This will replace our Birita filter jug/tank and instantaneous hot water dispenser. Hopefully this means less filter changing and cleaning every 2 mths of the Birita system, plus the filtered water doesn't have to then be transferred to our hot water dispenser tank. Less top ups, less effort, bigger tank reservoir and now we have the option of instantaneous cold water. More benchtop space from 2 machines to 1. The RO filter is $100+ more costly than the Birita ones, but hopefully it will be worth the cost!

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