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Verbatim 43888 Ultra HD 4K External Slimline Blu‑Ray External USB-C Writer $141.21 Delivered @ Amazon DE via AU

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Price at time of listing - could change soon I suppose. Found this from Amazon Germany via Amazon AU, and seems a reasonable buy for an external usb-c Blu-ray writer with ultra HD. Picture shows this comes with Nero and is USB 3.2 but description says 3.1, so not sure. Does BDXL and Ultra HD discs.

From Amazon:
Slimline Blu-ray writer with 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray playback. USB 3.1 GEN 1 with USB-C connection. 6x maximum write/ 4 x maximum read speeds for BD-R/BD-R DL. Compact and lightweight, ideally suited for use with a notebook or ultrabook. Power provided by the USB port - no need to carry a bulky power adapter.

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  • What software can play 4k discs?

    • +8

      Not sure about software, but only Intel 8th gen to 12th gen CPUs can play 4k discs, due to a CPU extension that is now removed from Intel and never supported by AMD.

      • Thank for this information, I had no idea!

      • Im sure they can play just not as much cpu support

    • +1

      With this drive I use Leawo Blu-ray Player

    • It comes with CyberLink software. Otherwise you can use MakeMKV and VLC probably.

    • VLC might surprise you

  • +2

    I bought this from Lenovo-com 18 months ag Caveat emptor becasue although drive works well, the Nero softtware included is terrible out of date and to have full functionality with updates you need to buy a full burning suite

    • What is better software for writing?

      • +3

        Ashampoo Burning Suite is good but not quite as comprehensive (and bloated) as Neri0 and much much cheaper

  • -4

    Doesn’t support M-disc

    • Product page explicitly says it does.

    • Incorrect, scroll down further on the Amazon page… specifically says it does (with pictures too!).

  • dang.. Just bought this exact drive for $180 or so a few weeks back from amazon. Has worked well so far ripping 2x Blu rays with makemkv

    • +7

      Why not just download rips online?

      • +5

        Many movies don't actually have a high bitrate rip easily available with enough seeds, you end up waiting days or weeks for it.

        Unless you want to get into private trackers, which many people don't.

        • +1

          Usually only really new releases or really low bitrate are well seeded on puluc trackers (eg a 2 GB 4k mkv by Yify, which is aweful quality unless you are watching it on a tiny screen like a cell phone).

      • Then you have to store them. It could be cheaper to buy the disc and rip to watch when wanted (that's what I do).

        • And then delete the rip after, why not just watch the disc? Or just delete the download after watching and download it again.

          • +1

            @AustriaBargain: HDR10+ on NVIDIA Shield if I rip. Regular HDR if I just throw the disc in the XBox One.

    • Im confused, why you need a bluray burner to rip bluray ?

      • +4

        It also reads Blurays

      • +5

        It has a different laser to DVD.

        The are three levels - read/play, rip, burn.

        Burning is irrelevant for ripping or playing but it just comes built in.

        Some drives will play BD but not UHD, some are natively UHD compatible but some BD drives can be flashed to play UHD. Some will play one or both but not rip because of encryption. Some drives can be flashed with a libredrive compatible firmware, which allows ripping of BD & UHD because layers of encryption and drive control get bypassed using lower level access.

        I believe this 43888 (USB 3/C) and earlier verbatim drive 43887 (USB 2/A) are both UHD and libredrive compatible, but not the 43889 or 43890.

        • I would thought bluray reader would be cheaper but then again they not around anymore.

          • @boomramada: Bluray reader might work if you can find one you can flash to support 4k UHD (check the MakeMKV forum first), but yeah you have to find one with the correct firmware version first.

  • +2

    It was $99 at one point

    • Yeah, I bought it to backing up photos that day. But now collecting dust.

    • +1

      Mine still brand new in the box, didn't even test it …

  • +2

    USB 3.0/3.1/3.2 are the same thing.
    In any case, 3.2 Gen 1x1 is more than enough speed for any optical drive.

    Specs: https://www.verbatim-europe.com/en/blu-ray-writers/products/…

    • Yeah, its a weird model line up they have! Talk about confusing!
      https://www.verbatim-europe.com/en/blu-ray-writers

      People should just go with OP's one (43888). USB-C so doesn't need a separate 12v power supply, and 4K capable out of the box.

      • Make sure you add the non-slip feet first, once the disc spins up it'll dance around like a maniac without them.

  • If this is used for data storage, is it cheaper and easier to buy micro SD cards when they are on sale ?
    Nowadays, not everyone's home has a BlueRay player / reader.

    • +4

      If it's for long term storage, disc should be safer.

    • +1

      Data in an unused Micro-SD card will deteriorate is less than 5 years.
      Read up on them online. NOT a long term storage solution, and many people aren't aware of this fact.

      • +1

        Got that right. I'm running discfresh on my hdd's/flash every two years but even with that, I trust optical more.

        • 100% mate.

          I had a scare a few years back because I was just relying on hard disks and micro-sd cards as backups tucked away off site.
          Thankfully I had multiple copies. I had no idea how quickly data degrades on those mediums. It was easily less than 5 years. Connected up once or twice in that time, but just to make sure some random files/folders worked.

          Now I just backup everything on optical every 12 months. A snapshot of the entire system done. 12 monthly 'time capsules' stored away… in addition to Micro-SD backups in-between intervals. I figure connecting Micro-SD to power will help with bit rot and having power running through the chips every 6 months or so.

    • For long-term archival purposes people should also use suitable media..

      https://www.amazon.com.au/Pioneer-IPS-BD11J03P-Compatible-Co…

  • +3

    If you think this thing can let you watch 4k movies on your laptop, most likely you will be disappointed.

    • Any particular reason why? Might be an Intel problem?

  • Tried to price match this model at Officeworks the other day based of the Amazon AU listing (is not Amazon Germany) but was denied because "it's not the same model" even though clear as day it was.

    • +1

      Lol. I just Googled the UPC listed on the Amazon page and the first search result was… https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/verbatim-e… !

      • Lol yup. I do most of my shopping online these days, but on the one occasion I decide to support a local (if you want to call it that) brick 'n mortar store I experienced that so I went home and purchased it from Amazon which I was originally going to do anyway.

    • I price matched it successfully, so probably a that store/person problem.

    • Call them during office hours.

  • +4

    According to MakeMKV forums tthis drive contains a Pioneer BDR-UD04 which will work for 4k UHD straight out the box and already has libredrive enabled so no flashing needed.

    • +4

      Can confirm. Works straight out of the box.

  • I really want to buy this one (have always fancied one to ‘complete’ my workstation) but am also struggling to think of what I can use it for. Like many, I don’t need to rip blu-ray thanks to a bunch of other better alternative options. I also have a NAS and backup for it, and plan to upgrade it every 5 years or so, so no need for any long term storage using Blu-Ray discs. Also burning like 50GB to a disc will be like may be 5-10 times slower than just copy to a NAS. So chance is it will be sitting somewhere collecting dust for a very long time.

    Still want it though! The only thing that’s holding me back is the price. I don’t think I could resist much if it dropped to the magic price of $99 once again.

    • You could use it to write to an M-Disk and then keep a backup off site, I guess. NAS at home as a backup is susceptible to fires etc.

      That said, there’s options like cloud backup too so it’s not even that essential, and personally I’d find having to periodically write to a disk and get it somewhere much more effort and probably less reliable than running something like Backblaze or Crashplan as a backup solution.

      • Exactly. I also have cloud backup, hence don’t really want to fiddle with the disc back up.

  • -7

    people still use external writers…. feels so backwards

    • +7

      How else would you store 90GB of data for 100years for $15?

      • +1

        In 100 years there will be nothing to read the disc with.

        • +1

          In 100 years you'll just need to give the disc to your droid and it will read it for you…

      • LOL - a new way of taking it to the grave

  • +1

    You can add these Verbatim blu-ray BD-R SL 25 pack spindle for $16.55 each on top of this.

    • How?

      • Click on "Buy 2, save 12%" on the product page. Add both to cart and the discount will show in the checkout page.

        • Original price is $38.06. That makes $9.13 off for 2 packs. Am I missing something?

          • +1

            @McFly: It was $21.30 yesterday. Guess they went back up in price.

    • I've swapped to 50GB discs now but not too bad for Verbatim international discs.

      • I've been using 50GB disks too mostly but this price was too good to pass. So snatched two.
        50GB is definitely more convenient.
        Wonder if 25GB single layer ones are any better for archival purposes.

        • If you splurge for M-Disc you'll be better off. Depends on the importance of what you are archiving.

          • @Abaddon: This review claims all bluray discs do not use organic dye and are basically the same as m-disc (will last more than a lifetime). Interested to hear what your thoughts are

            https://goughlui.com/2015/10/16/review-tested-verbatim-lifet…

            For things that are important I'm happy to buy 25gb m-discs (I would rather use more discs than rely on multi layer discs being as reliable), but wondering if I am wasting money and could just use regular 25gb discs.

    • Came to 38.06 for me but the 100 pack from Japan was 57.45

      • I generally go for Japan version discs (50GB) on a spindle and they are pretty decent on price.

        Still need to buy some 90GB discs once I can find a printer/screen printer to get them looking the business.

        • 100GB BD XL 10 pack is 49.12 in Amazon. 86.45 for 2x 10 pack.
          Seems like an alright price.

      • Do you have prime?
        I didn't buy this blu-ray writer.

        I got two sets of 25 packs for 33.68 when combined with the 12% from amazon.
        I tried adding the 25 pack and this and got a total of 157.76 in the cart.

        • Oh, I see. Yes it does that for me too. Nice one!

  • https://amzn.asia/d/0butYVO6

    Is the deal i saw isnt that better value? I have prime

  • Which M-Discs people get nowadays? My BR Writer from 2013 only supports 25GB discs, and they were relatively pricey from memory.

  • +2

    I came here to see people laughing at this deal only to find people out there still burn CDs

    • +2

      I don't think anyone is burning CDs (much) these days, but I do have a pack of CD-Rs and CD-RWs somewhere in the cupboard next to a sealed chrome cassette tape.

  • +1

    I'm wondering how long it'd take to burn a BD-R even at 6x speed.

    I remember the first CD/DVD burners and writing a disc at 4x speed would take forever!

    • +1

      In the bad old days (pre-Windowns 2000) you couldn't do anything while a CD was being burnt because it could mess up the burn. At least now you can suft the web, read an Ebook, type a journal entry or do some other undemanding activity while the burn is occurring.

      • I still don't do anything, I'm very finicky with not going anywhere near the pc (or laptop w/ external drive) while its doing its thing. Usually set and start it up, then move away from it until I hear the completion confirmation sound. I've become that paranoid (embarrassingly) I don't even hit the eject button, I'll eject it via selecting the option after right clicking it on the computer. Long story as to why, but I became paranoid after reading about what happens if a device is moved with the disc still inside it… LOL :-/

    • +1

      About 20 mins. 100GB at typical 2x speed is 3 hours. But it's only time.

      Also, first CD (burners) were 1x surprisingly enough…

      • Did that mean an 80min 700MB CD would take 80mins to write at 1x?

        • +1

          IIRC the 80min ones weren't generally available, just the 74min, which yes, took 74mins (if you were lucky enough to make it that far!)

      • About 20 mins to burn a 25Gb BD-R at 2x? That seems reasonable. Even though buffer underrun is a thing of the past, i'm still one of those that doesn't dare do anything while a disc is being burnt.

        I actually have some 90min/800Mb CD-R's… with over-burn I got them up to 92/93 minutes, though some players do have issues with them.

        I must've got into burning a bit late then. After Commodore 64's, the first PC I had, was a 486 DX33 with a SCSI external CD reader/burner (one of those with a lid that opens up - kinda like a discman), even that was 4x - possibly 4x read, 1x write… who knows. It was a while ago lol

    • 1x speed is different based on the disk type. So to write a single layer disk at 1x takes about 60~90 minutes.

      (There are drives that can write faster than these maximus but the average speed is nowhere near maximum speed)

      Disk Type 1x Speed Capacity Time to Write Full Disk at 1x Speed Maximum Speed Time to Write Full Disk at Maximum Speed
      CD 150 KB/s 700 MB 80 minutes 52x ~2 minutes
      DVD 1.38 MB/s 4.7 GB 60-70 minutes 24x 4-5 minutes
      Blu-ray 4.5 MB/s 25 GB 90 minutes 16x ~10 minutes
      Blu-ray DL 4.5 MB/s 50 GB 180 minutes 12x ~15 minutes
      Blu-ray XL 4.5 MB/s 100 GB 360 minutes 8x ~45 minutes
  • FYI Sony has killed off Bluray recordable discs.
    https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/sony-stops-produc…

    • Luckily there is more than just Sony manufacturing Bluray discs.

      It'll probably be a few years yet before Sony completely ends production of them. This is the company that only ended productiin of Betamax players in 2002 and then took a further 14 or so years to end production of Betamax tapes lol.

  • Will this rip 4K UHDs out of the box — or do I need to purchase flash firmware of some kind ?
    I have an Asus BW-16D1H-U, realised later it can't rip 4k UHDs.

  • Showing as $180.92 now :(

  • Low key mad I got the other LG drive and not this.. Ah well

  • FYI … this is currently in stock at Amazon AU for $147.76

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