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1m Thunderbolt 5 Cable (80Gbps, 240W, Intel Certified) $36.54 (RRP $42.99) + Delivery ($0 Prime/ $59+) @ Cable Matters Amazon AU

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Cable Matters make good quality-stuff, so posting this for any interested parties (albeit since there's currently only one model of laptop available that ships with a Thunderbolt 5 port I feel it's mostly for those who want to futureproof their next data/charging cable purchase).
tl;dr - If you need it you'll know, and thanks either way for your attention.

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  • linkindan on 04/07/2024 - 19:00
    +7

    Just saw this, yelled “FFS” cause I recently bought their TB4 cable, then remembered my laptop is only TB4 anyway aha

    But FWIW the TB4 cable is high quality, highly recommend

    • spiderbite88 on 04/07/2024 - 20:47
      +4

      As far as old cables are concerned, Intel believes that a Thunderbolt 4 cable under one metre in length will be able to cope with the data rate of Thunderbolt 5. Incidentally, Thunderbolt 4 will not be rendered obsolete by the new version and will continue to exist for devices outside of the upper class.

      https://www.digitec.ch/en/page/thunderbolt-5-is-complete-and…

  • Telios on 04/07/2024 - 19:01
    +3

    The fragmentation continues!

    So these look slightly faster than usb4… But roughly the same wattage?

    Ughhhh

    • linkindan on 04/07/2024 - 19:07

      USB4 - “up to” (XX)Mbps

      TB - is (XX)Mbps (with the relevant port, cable and device)

      • netsurfer on 04/07/2024 - 19:38
        +13

        Not quite. When TB4 was first introduced, PD 3.1 hasn't finalised so TB4 cables were 100W max.

        USB4 was introduced later and Intel delayed the ASMedia chipset by enforcing it must pass at least TB3 certification. The ASMedia USB4 chipset is PCIe gen 4 x4 based, rather than PCI gen 3 x4 (Intel Thunderbolt 4) though it doesn't take full advantage of it. Assuming you get proper / decent brand cables, USB4 cables are a bit better (though USB4 devices will generally work happily with Thunderbolt 4 cables) and are more likely to be 240W rated.

        El cheapo cables (including AliExpress ones), some of them just use a hacked eMarker chip and are lousy quality.

        Intel, knowing that it would be a lost cause to release a new revision of TB4, went for TB5. If you have TB4 and USB4 devices, you know it can be a mess, as both chipsets had issues. If your PC / laptop maker doesn't provide a Thunderbolt 4 firmware upgrade, there is a good chance it won't work with USB4. If you ended up upgrading to a workable version (new enough), you will lose Thunderbolt 2 backward compatibility. As for USB4 devices, if the device maker doesn't offer a firmware upgrade, you could run into issues with certain SSDs under performing.

        Thunderbolt 5 vs USB4 v2 is coming up. The mess continues. Thunderbolt 5 will most likely continue not supporting USB 3.2 gen 2x2 and given that it will be released before USB4 v2, Intel will most likely ask ASMedia to go through another round of certification. Unless you 100% don't care about getting cheaper USB4 v2 enclosures later on, you'd better make sure your future device with Thunderbolt 5 support will provide firmware upgrades to work with USB4 v2.

        • jwh on 04/07/2024 - 20:43
          +6

          My head hurts just reading all of that.

          I can’t keep track of all these standards and compatibilities.

          • netsurfer on 04/07/2024 - 21:18
            +2

            @jwh: USB and Thunderbolt are both messy and confusing:

            USB 2.0, 3.0/3.1/3.2 gen 1, USB 3.2 gen 2, USB 3.2 gen 2x2, USB4, USB4 v2; Alt-Mode DP 1.2, 1.4, 2.0, PD 2, PD 3, PD 3.1
            Thunderbolt 2, 3 (DP1.2), 3 (DP 1.4), 4, 5; PD 2, PD 3, PD 3.1
            PD PDO, PPS

            You could get this cable as it most likely supports all of the above (USB4 v2 is a bit of a question mark, but for now it seems Thunderbolt 5 specs offer higher display capabilities).

            • DeeTrance on 05/07/2024 - 09:26
              +3

              @netsurfer: I like Apple's innovations, but TB must die the same way Firewire did. USB must be the standard.

          • Telios on 05/07/2024 - 00:42
            +3

            @jwh: Yup… Everytime we get close someone throws a new standard or reiterates the previous slightly.

            Having to support TB3 and 4 devices like docks and worse, dock monitors is giving me headaches.

    • plmko on 04/07/2024 - 19:27
      +2

      Should've bought a Thunderbolt laptop.

  • hopper on 04/07/2024 - 19:34
    +1

    2M deals plz

  • solacens on 04/07/2024 - 20:09
    +1

    Luckily I don't have a TB5 laptop.

  • kungfuman on 04/07/2024 - 20:53
    -4

    I am actually shocked that tb5 isn't on a mac yet apple were the first to implement thunderbolt in computer s long before anyone else added it, so it surprises me how far they lag behind

    • Shaolinking on 04/07/2024 - 21:09
      -3

      Have you heard of lightning port?

    • netsurfer on 04/07/2024 - 21:55
      +1

      Thunderbolt is Intel's brainchild (so Apple needs to wait for Intel to release TB5). Thunderbolt 4 is a disappointment because it remains PCIe gen 3 x4 (just like Thunderbolt 3). Thunderbolt 4 only made DP 1.4 support mandatory and improved the PCIe tunnelling for GPU.

      It will be interesting to see when Apple starts using Thunderbolt 5. Apple M4 doesn't support it, but will M4 Pro / Max / Ultra support it?

      The release of the first USB4 chipset shows that Intel has been milking customers over the years. When you can get an enclosure that's less than $70 and performs better than a Thunderbolt 4 enclosure even on a Mac, you realise Intel really slacked off for the past few years.

      USB4 enclosure on Apple M1 Pro with DRAMless SSD - Lexar NM790 - USB4 enclosure does expose DRAMless SSDs in writes, but the read speed is something a Thunderbolt 4 enclosure can't reach. It's best if USB4 v2 is released soon after Thunderbolt 5, but Intel will most likely try to roadblock it to delay it from being released.

  • AndrewMTG on 04/07/2024 - 21:31
    +3

    I cannot wait for gamin or high end lapotps to use like a type c cable instead dof bit powerbrick?

    will that happen?

    • McFly on 04/07/2024 - 22:03

      The issue is not the cable (now that we have 240W cables). The issue is generating enough power for the device to send down the cable.
      Generally more power = bigger power supply (at any point in time/tech level).

    • netsurfer on 04/07/2024 - 22:33
      +1

      It's a challenge mostly because of safety (laptop makers are worried about arcing). Also, if customers opted for el cheapo cables, it will be very dangerous (for 240W). I have an el cheapo Thunderbolt 4/USB 4 cable which is completely rubbish, always gets random disconnects, while it is emarked to do 240W (emarking can be hacked), if the data support is lousy (doesn't even work properly for USB 3.2 gen 2, much worse on USB4), would you trust it to be issue free for 240W?

      Another thing is the extra cost, a PD chip is required on the actual charger and a 240W charger is not going to magically reduced in size just because it is switched to USB-C. Also, would 1 port supporting charging be enough or all USB-C ports need to support charging? If it is just one port, then it's still single point of failure. A mate of mine has a Macbook Pro where one of its Thunderbolt 4 ports no longer charges, but he has another 2 ports.

      Most importantly, better performance and a better screen mean more. Is USB-C charging more important than a 240Hz OLED screen?

      • AndrewMTG on 04/07/2024 - 22:44

        Hmm…

        How about normal powerbrick idk…

        I got my first lapotp w type c charging recently just a Lenovo x1 carbon 7/8?thgen i5-10210U.

        Has thunderbolt 3 i believ but yesh it does type c charging 45/65w.

        pretty sure the power brick which i use is 65w but yeah i got some ugreen 100w cables like 2 of them and they worked w this 100w output powerboard (8 power port) heymix thingy i have.

        So like i needa buy a PD65/100W Type c Gan Charger Ozbargain certified Haha deal at somepoint as i reckon the space saving in my laptop backpack would be nice..

        And just having the option to carry around a small powerbrick w 2m cable etc etc that can charge my phone as well(since my Xiaomi mi11i dies so quickly whenever i go outside or take too many photos or something).

        I believ my asus tuf fx505dt-al043t Ryzen 7 3750H w a gtx 1650 mobile gpu powerbrick is either 140w or 160w?

        Pretty sure it's like 140w or something .

        So it would be cool if equiv of laptop could be powered by a power bank when I'm on the go.

        That's the main thing I'm thinking off, carrying one of those 20k mah powerbanks to get another 3-4 hours out of your laptop or 2-3hrs if doing a bit more things?

        Idk a full charge or when u are out for like 2 days or tripd etc and no access to a setup where ur stationary ..? Like travel or portability etc is nice w type c charging and type c power banks.

  • theguyrules on 05/07/2024 - 08:43

    I bought a TB3 cable for my Caldigit dock (which is TB3) from Kogan and it never worked. Might have to finally grab this.

  • tommypickles on 05/07/2024 - 10:22
    +1

    Expired? Shows as $42.99

  • OzHan on 05/07/2024 - 10:37

    By the time TB5 becomes a thing, price will be $3.64.

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