Renting Etiquette- Real Estate Agents Being Dodgy?

Hi all,

Just wanted to get your thoughts on a predicament I'm in.

For context I'm located in Vic Western suburbs.

Inspected a house a couple weeks ago a was accepted a few days after viewing.

The REA said that the bond payment was required within 24 hours to secure the property. And the first months rent was to be paid at least 2 days prior to the commencement of the tenancy. They said that the rental agreement would be organised after payment was received.

Noticed that in the email they had the wrong weekly rent ($10/week increase to what was offered). This was addressed this via email and a response was received within 10 mins that it was an error and they confirmed the correct weekly rent. I also requested confirmation that the property will be cleaned prior to tenancy and asked about it being nbn ready as its a new estate. These requests were ignored for several emails until I stated that I would need confirmation before proceeding.

The bond was then transferred to them with a screenshot attachment to confirm that the payment was made. My current place also requested for the bond prior to my tenancy but from memory they also issued the rental agreement at the same time.

An email to follow up was sent the day after to confirm that they recieved my email to which i received no response. Called several times across a couple of days and they did not pick up. Finally got through to someone who said that they asked the accounts team to check if they payment had been received and they'd update me once it's been confirmed.

Nothing in writing to confirm they recieved my email or any updates. Basically was ghosted for a week. Timeline of events below;

1/6- viewed property and applied to move in 12/06

3/6- received call from REA requesting tenancy ledger for previous property not current one this was sent on 4/6

4/6- received email of offer from the rea requesting bond + 1st months rent

4/6 - requested confirmation that the property was nbn ready and would be cleaned (astroturf in the backyard had not been laid properly when I inspected it) initially email ignored when the offer was issued. Raised concerns regarding incorrect rental price. 4 emails later they confirmed general cleaning would be done and that the property was opticomm ready.

5/6- followed up to see if they received my previous correspondence — no repsonse

6/6- called both property managers on two separate occasions. Finally got someone on the 4th call— they were very rude but told me that it was with the accounts team

11/6- follow up via email again to check in with status of bond/rental agreement— no response. Advised that its now the day before we were due to start the lease and we've had no commitments or updates. Requested that the start date be moved back a week to 19/6 as there's not enough time to organise everything.

12/06 11am- they issued the rental agreement to me requested that it's signed and that the tenancy would start today. They confirmed the bond has been received and once everything is signed they would lodge my bond to the rbta.

The tenancy term is also weird at 11 months and 30 days.

They're quick to turn things around before anything was paid and was responsive. But applied a lot of pressure to pay/get things back to them. Once I did I was basically ghosted for a week with no updates despite chasing.

The property is nice, and it felt like home. The last time I did inspections with this REA they were rude, uninterested and ignored me when I asked them things. It's been a few years since then so I figured things might be changed. The open inspection went well with no issues. And the acceptance was quick. Thought I got lucky with this one. But there are a lot of red flags that I can't ignore and wanted to get your thoughts.

The posting on realestate.com hasn't been removed and the tight turn around times with lack of communication is giving me cold feet. Given that I haven't signed the rental agreement yet (or had time to review) I'm wondering if it would be best to ask for my bond back, blacklist them and move on? I feel like if it's been this much of a roller-coaster at the start it might end up being a nightmare during my tenancy. Though luckily it's a new property so there shouldn't be any maintenance issues. Am I being too paranoid?

The rental market atm seems difficult with lots of applicants and the houses aren't great/expensive.

Thanks all for taking the time to read this long post and for your advice.

Reviews on Google seem good for sellers. Not great for buyers/landlords. People complain about them being unresponsive/dishonest and rude. Mouldy houses, issues witht the property and not letting people inspect until keys are handed over/sale goes through. Landlords talk about their property not being looked after.

Comments

  • +9

    Sounds like shitty managers

    • -5

      If OP wants a reply then cut this long long story down to one paragraph.

      I dont have all day to read this one, sorry.

      And lets not forget this is a VERY BIASED, ONE-SIDED story
      We havent heard what the agent had to say about OP !!!

      Never pass judgement until you hear all sides of the story.

  • +1

    A lot like rental managers I've dealt with.
    Renting sucks, but you'll need to decide if the poor agents will be a problem for you.
    Most people I know who have moved recently have said it was very hard to find a good property.

  • +5

    Property managers are at the bottom of the totem pole and often are given a few 100 properties to 'manage'. They will miss things all the time. Once you are in the tenancy, you will probably not need to deal with them other than paying the rent; but if you do (get something fixed etc) then you know you will have to hassle them. But everyone else is more or less the same anyway.

    At least you have somewhere to live

  • The rental market atm seems difficult with lots of applicants and the houses aren't great/expensive.

    It's only going to get worse as less rental properties become available and ever increasing land taxes are being imposed by local and state governments.

    • +2

      Government should get into the rental game. Build millions of new houses and apartments and rent them to anyone on incomes under 60k or whatever. Nationalise a big chunk of the housing market.

      • Government should get into the rental game.

        They are… Just heard this morning they are increasing rent for pensioners in government housing by 55% this year.

        • Damn, poor pensioners.

          • @AustriaBargain: Oh well, they don't really need 3 meals a day and heating in their government rentals. They are just luxury items…

            Gov needs the extra 55% to pay for the rail loop

            • @jv: Pensioners have always been poor though. When I was a kid everyone joked that pensioners ate cat food to get by. The price of canned cat food these days tho…

        • +3

          Government housing in Victoria is the lesser of market rent for the property or 25% of income. There is no fixed rent price for government housing, nor has there been any change in how it's calculated.

          I also couldn't find any news articles suggesting anything like a 55% increase. Did you get this from someone on talkback radio or something? I could imagine there are individuals who saw a boost in their income or assets which moved them from 25% of income to market rates, but there's no overall change like you're mentioning available on the housing vic website

          • -1

            @freefall101:

            I also couldn't find any news articles suggesting anything like a 55% increase.

            It was on the radio this morning

            • +5

              @jv: Ah, the bastion of breaking news, morning radio. Was it old Neil fiddling with the numbers or did someone call in to say their aunts cousins best friends dog walkers nephew told them that it's happening and they're outraged?

              Rent prices are up 14.6% in Melbourne over the past year - https://www.dffh.vic.gov.au/publications/rental-report - since public housing is pegged to actual market data or 25% of income, unless pensioners all got a 55% pay increase I'd be really surprised at understand how they're paying 55% more.

              • @freefall101:

                Was it old Neil fiddling with the numbers

                Didn't he retire?

                There were some people who called in confirming that they received notices about their government rent going up 55%.

        • They areā€¦ Just heard this morning they are increasing rent for pensioners in government housing by 55% this year.

          Not true

  • -7

    This is how they make a passive housing crisis.
    Blacklists are illegal, whitelists are being auctioned off to the highest bidders regardless of accuracy.
    If your name is Peter Smith or John Jones it will be easier than Sandeep Singh.
    Let alone females with 5 ex husbands having surnames like rolling code remotes.

    • +1

      Blacklists are illegal

      Which law?

      • -6

        Every state dabbles the way they want.
        I hear ex comrade Dan is getting his own statue now. Xi and Vladimir are taking note!

        • ex comrade Dan is getting his own statue now.

          Yes, It's almost finished…

        • People on here scare me with their conspiracies. It's like finding the house you live in is filled with termites.

  • TL.DR version?

    • +10

      TL.DR version?

      Hi all,
      whinge
      whinge
      whinge
      Thanks all for taking the time to read this long post

    • +2

      I asked ChatGPT to summarise it in five words:

      Agent ghosted after receiving bond payment.

    • +1

      REA are shitty

    • REA bad!
      REA scum!
      REA take too long to respond.

  • +6

    I have been a Home owner.
    I have been a Landlord.
    I have also been a Renter.

    I have bought and sold houses.

    But no matter which side of the fence I was on , REA and the tradies needed for the real estate jobs are some of the shittiest creatures on the planet. Sometimes I comes across decent and competent people but they are very rare.

  • +1

    People don't become real estate agents because of their attention to detail, usually the complete opposite.

    Best way I've always found is to go into their office and talk to them. The reception team are usually 100x more helpful and friendly. Property managers get tagged in on every email and are only interested in what will generate their commissions.

  • I wouldn't assume that there won't be any maintenance issues on a new property. You will be the guinea pig to find out whether everything was built right.

    I moved into a brand new place to discover the sewerage pipes back up. Builders had to dig up the entire driveway to fix their errors, all the while my place stank like you know what! I did have super helpful REAs to deal with though.

    Hope all goes well for you whatever you decide.

  • Not sure you will get ur full deposit back. Just sayin'.

  • +2

    If they are providing poor customer service before you have commenced the rental, then I'm just wondering how bad it might be after you have signed up. I would get out of this situation quickly if possible, but I realise there are many factors to consider. Good luck

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