Need Some Advice around Installation of New Zigbee Enabled Lights

Hi all,

We are about to start our new house build (next 2 months), and in good Oz Bargain fashion I just couldn't say "no" to a good deal on lighting and purchased them upfront.

At the time of ordering, I specified that I wanted the lights to be ZigBee enabled, and I can see that as part of the order they have sent me the following:

BG-075V-24V-SMART (one driver for each lighting circuit)
- Dimmable LED driver, ZigBee device based on ZigBee 3.0 protocol
- Compatible with universal ZigBee gateway products
- Compatible with universal ZigBee dim remotes
https://brightgreen.com/products/brightgreen/ALL/BG-075-24V-…

They have also sent (2 dimmers in total):

PBRODI.TR-ZIGBEE-Trailing_Edge_Push_Button_Rotary_Smart_Dimmer
https://brightgreen.com/products/control/ALL/PBRODI.TR-ZIGBE…

Now I have to admit, while I am not new to the world of home automation, I know very little about ZigBee products - other than what I have gathered from a few videos.

What I am confused about here is, in the "Installation Breakout" listing for each lighting circuit it is specified "Dimmable Circuit" and "HPM Standard". Assuming that each of these drivers needs to be wired to a light switch, how would I be able to use any of the functionalities (dimming or turning them on/off) if the light switch is in the "off" position? Would I need to buy ZigBee compatible light switches (+ potentially a dimming circuit) to be able to turn the lights on and off and dim them?

Assuming this kind of defeats the purpose of having the LED driver itself ZigBee enabled.

Also, the LED driver has a "Programming" button to pair it with a ZigBee hub. As we are building 2 stories, we should be able to easily access the drivers for the 2nd level from the roof cavity, however I'm a bit at a loss at the moment as to how we would be even able to reach the button once the driver is mounted in the wall cavity on the 1st level. The only option that I can think of is that it would need to sit close to the light switch so that we can (if needed) take off the switch cover and reach the pairing button.

I'm a bit nervous about pairing them before the installation and then needing to repair them later (if a hub was broken).

I realise that this is most definitely a question for an electrician, but it's a bit early in the process for us, as we haven't signed the contract yet. And unfortunately the company producing the lights and drivers hasn't been super helpful so far as we are still waiting for some installation instructions about 3 weeks later.

If anyone has any insights into how this would work, that would be very much appreciated. I just like to be prepared, and this is keeping me up at night ;-)

Many thanks!

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    if the light switch is in the "off" position?

    You are right. The power needs to be on.

    In a way the switch would always have to be active if you want access to the zigbee control 24/7
    off is via the zigbee control…

    Assuming this kind of defeats the purpose of having the LED driver itself ZigBee enabled.

    Well you can turn it off via zigbee command?

    however I'm a bit at a loss at the moment as to how we would be even able to reach the button once the driver is mounted in the wall cavity on the 1st level.

    I've seen many builds (not all smart enabled builds) where they have an access hatch , in one build I recently visited they located all the transformers in a hatch in a cupboard..not ideal for ventilation of transformers but great idea for access for transformers seeing as the whole house was trimless recessed profile and no downlights.
    I'd suggest a similar situation even for upstairs. So much easier than rooting around in a ceiling cavity.

    And unfortunately the company producing the lights and drivers hasn't been super helpful so far as we are still waiting for some installation instructions about 3 weeks later.

    Assuming that's brightgreen, yes thats classic brightgreen. lmao. They were ok to deal with maybe 10 years ago. Now getting a straight answer from them is practically impossible unless you know someone further up in the chain than a rep.

  • Thanks so much, that was very helpful! I didn't even think of having an access hatch, but that's such a clever idea and is definitely an option (such as inside the cupboards).

    Good point around sending the "Off" signal via ZigBee. I was kind of under the impression that all drivers (as in electrical wiring) had to have physical "on/off" switches, so we couldn't just hard-wire the driver and leave it running 24/7 (even if its state is "off" via ZigBee command). But maybe the "on/off" switch could simply reside inside the access hatch and the light switches (dim remotes) would then be paired to the respective ZigBee circuits and send the "on"/"off" signals.

    You are spot on with Brightgreen. They were very quick to put together a lighting plan and finalise the sale (I'm not complaining, we got a good discount), but we have now been waiting over 3 weeks for an updated lighting plan and some basic installation instructions. I know it will all come together in the end, but just don't like not knowing what to do.

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