Who Can Teach Me While Converting Auto to Manual Licence While on Ps (VIC)

Javascripter1 on 23/05/2024 - 01:00
Last edited 23/05/2024 - 10:32 by 1 other user

I'm looking to convert to a manual licence in Vic (I'm currently on green Ps), as far as I know, the rules for learning are (from the VicRoads website):

When learning to drive in a manual vehicle, you must have someone with an appropriate driver licence for that vehicle sitting beside you and display 'Driver Under Instruction' plates as well as your 'P' plates on the front and back of your vehicle. Driver Under Instruction plates must be 150mm x 150mm with black lettering on a yellow background.

Does "appropriate driver licence" exclude fellow P-platers with a manual license, or can only fully licenced drivers teach a P-plater to drive a manual? Ideally, I'd have one of my friends with a manual licence (all on P plates) to teach me before I take my test, as I don't have any parents who drive a manual.

Automotive Driver's Licence

Comments

  • MS Paint on 23/05/2024 - 02:24
    +1

    It can be any fully licensed driver or any probationary licensed driver that does not have the condition 'A' on their license.

    You have already proven you are a safe driver and know the road rules. The front passenger is just their to assist with the gearbox conponent.

  • geekcohen on 23/05/2024 - 05:33

    as I don't have any parents who drive a manual

    Do they not know how to drive a manual at all? You can still borrow a car that is manual and have your parents supervise.

  • Sye on 23/05/2024 - 07:50
    +2

    You need to go to the OzBargain school of motoring. Learn to do MS Paint diagrams, buy high yield investment and how to change your own blinker fluid.

    • geekcohen on 23/05/2024 - 08:36
      +3

      And buy a VIOFO Dashcam.

  • sumyungguy on 23/05/2024 - 08:42
    +1

    Are you able to wait until your licence becomes full/open or is this an employment thing? I gather in Vic the A condition only applies to probationary licences. At the end of your probationary period, you can drive vehicles with a manual transmission without having to do another driving test. Otherwise, supervising drivers are required to have a full licence.

    • geekcohen on 23/05/2024 - 08:49
      +1

      I gather in Vic the A condition only applies to probationary licences.

      Yes, that is correct.

      At the end of your probationary period, you can drive vehicles with a manual transmission without having to do another driving test.

      Correct

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      I am guessing OP needs it for work. I had to do the same thing on my Ps for work.

    • MS Paint on 23/05/2024 - 09:09
      +2

      My bet is OP wants to buy a manual Toyota 86 - just like his mates.

      • iDroid on 23/05/2024 - 09:23

        Not a chance.

        OP wants a BRZ.

      • Javascripter1 on 23/05/2024 - 13:42

        Hahaha close enough. I'm in the market for a new car and I want to consider dailying a manual for a more involved (or "fun") driver experience. I've tried manual before and I quite liked it in my mate's Toyota MR2.

        • angelkulit025 on 23/05/2024 - 13:45
          +4

          it's fun until you're stuck in peak hour traffic!!!

        • geekcohen on 23/05/2024 - 13:59

          Get a car that has a manual shift if you want to do that. If is just as fun.

          Manual 24/7 will drive you nuts, especially in traffic. Can't eat and drink whilst driving because you have clutch in, change gears. Manually is a nightmare in traffic.

          My wife's Tuscon N-Line has paddle shift and that is great for fun. My auto Ranger has manual shift and that is handy for towing or going through hills. But I wouldn't want to drive a manual ranger all the time.

          Also, there are more Autos nowadays than manual. Used to reversed, but most cars are auto with a manual mode now.

          • Euphemistic on 23/05/2024 - 15:30

            @geekcohen:

            Manual 24/7 will drive you nuts, especially in traffic. Can't eat and drink whilst driving because you have clutch in, change gears. Manually is a nightmare in traffic.

            Manual isnt that bad. Sure, its not great in traffic, but if you drive in teaffic that heavy that a manual is a chore maybe you should be taking the bus.

            Cant eat/drink and drive? Yes you can, just bwes to be smart aboht what you choose to eat. If you cant eat it while driving a manual, i suggest you shouldn't be eating or drinking the same thing in an auto either.

          • bhubb18 on 23/05/2024 - 16:23

            @geekcohen: A good auto is still nowhere near as fun as a proper manual in something sporty.
            More practical, sure, but nowhere near as fun

            • Euphemistic on 23/05/2024 - 20:08

              @bhubb18: Agree with that. A ma uamised auto doesnt have the same directness as a manual. It wont change exactly when you want and the torque converter makes the throttle response a bit mushy.

  • foxmulder on 23/05/2024 - 11:35
    +1

    If you don't have anyone, book 1-2 hour driving lessons with manual.

    • Euphemistic on 23/05/2024 - 12:37
      +1

      May need to provide your own car. Couple of local schools i tried said they didnt have manual cars anymore.

  • GordonD on 23/05/2024 - 12:23

    you must have someone with an appropriate driver licence for that vehicle sitting beside you

    That requirement would appear to be met by a provisional licensed driver without the A condition on their licence.

    • sumyungguy on 23/05/2024 - 14:46

      When you supervise in Victoria you must have a current full car licence (not your Ps)

      • GordonD on 23/05/2024 - 18:47

        Yes, when you supervise a LEARNER you have to have a current full car licence. Because a learner hasn't proven they know what the rules are. A driver under instruction has. They are just getting experience on a vehicle with a operating difference.

        The quote only refers to "sitting beside" the driver under instruction, not supervising them. And in that case the obvious question is whether the person sitting beside the driver has any responsibility if anything goes wrong. Or whether they're just there to drive the car home if the driver can't. When different words are used in an official document you have to ask whether they were used deliberately because the legal situation is different.

        • sumyungguy on 23/05/2024 - 20:09

          OP has to display "Driver Under Instruction" plates; the person in the passenger seat is instructing, supervising.

  • Euphemistic on 23/05/2024 - 12:47
    -1

    In NSW you can drive manual as soon as you get green Ps. Id say just wait, but…

    • geekcohen on 23/05/2024 - 13:59

      Id say just wait, but…

      He is in VIC, so can't wait.

      • Euphemistic on 23/05/2024 - 15:26

        Do you have to do a test to get a manual licence even if you are on full licence in Vic?

        • geekcohen on 23/05/2024 - 15:28

          No.

          Just saying he cannot wait until his full license apparently.

          I think I kinda misread what you were also saying.

          • Euphemistic on 23/05/2024 - 15:34
            +1

            @geekcohen: Id also guess that unless you drive like a clown and have an idea how to drive a manual (sounds like OP does), youre unlikely to get stopped for driving one solo.

            • sumyungguy on 23/05/2024 - 15:45

              @Euphemistic: Minimal risk of getting stopped, some risk if needing to make an insurance claim

              • Euphemistic on 23/05/2024 - 15:51

                @sumyungguy: Yes, do need to be aware of insurance risk.

                Im not advocating driving while not properly licenced, but if its only a couple of months until you dont need to convert your licence and you already can drive a manual kinda OK, taking a couple of short practice drives in a quiet area is fairly low risk. Kinda like letting my kids drive a bit on a deserted beach before they had their learners.

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