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Bonus 7kW Wallbox Charger (First 3,000 Orders, Worth $1,000) with BYD Sealion 6 PHEV (from $48,990 + On-Road Cost) @ BYD

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PinzVidz on 19/05/2024 - 12:16 bydautomotive.com.au (9858 clicks)
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BYD announced their Sealion 6 plug-in hybrid this week and are offering a complimentary 7kW wallbox charger worth $1K RRP for the first 3000 orders. Includes 3m type 2 cable. Excludes installation.

Sealion 6 prices;
Dynamic $48,990 plus on roads
Premium AWD $52,990 plus on roads

This is BYD's first foray into PHEV in Australia, and even for this "skeptical about Chinese cars thinker" here, I'm pretty impressed with the specs and prices of the Sealion 6. Seriously considering the Premium, claimed 5.9 secs 0-100, EV range of roughly 80km and petrol/electric range of over 1000km.

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      • catbin on 19/05/2024 - 14:37
        +7

        $36000 is the after tax price. Chinese GST is composed of 13% VAT and 4% sales tax, which they can claim all back if the car is exported. Plus the government exportation rebate, the true price at the port is actually under $30k

      • G6DP on 19/05/2024 - 22:40
        +2
        1. You dont need $4000 to ship a car from China, especially when in bulk.
        2. There is no Chinese consumer subsidies.
        3. In China the VAT is 17% and BYD will get it back for export.

        Conclusion: They raised the price this much purely because AU market is lack of competition.

      • beach bum on 20/05/2024 - 04:40
        +1

        BYD have their own newly built car carrying ships so maybe $500 a car shipping, maybe less .

    • Creamsoda on 19/05/2024 - 13:56
      +1

      @catbin $48990 is still too expensive given that they are only about $36000 in China.

      You are incorrect, This is called the Song Plus DM-i Model which sells for $24k-$32K AUD. There is a EV version which starts from $30k AUD.
      The AU version is different than the China version with 4wd variant as Top trim. This is not offer in the Chinese Top trim but instead a bigger 26.6kWh battery with around 110km range on EV mode.

      • catbin on 19/05/2024 - 14:38
        -1

        The AU version is not an EV. It is indeed the DMI PHEV.

        • Creamsoda on 19/05/2024 - 14:47
          +1

          This is called the Song Plus DM-i Model which sells for $24k-$32K AUD.

          which part of that statement don't you understand? your quoted price of $36kAUD is incorrect. but i do agree with smaller battery and 2wd the starter price is too expensive. Huge margins for EVDirect.

      • tpopi on 19/05/2024 - 14:41
        +2

        This was on the top of my list until they released specs and pricing and looks like they've given us the crappy 18kWh version! Stupid decision by BYD - 81km on battery for the Premium model is just not enough - we drive relatively long distances in Australia, so why they wouldn't they realise that and spec it accordingly, makes no sense. Would've ordered if it was 26.6kW for the Premium… now considering Tesla again with their recent discount

        • tunzafun001 on 19/05/2024 - 20:12
          +2

          Yep, 18kwh is far too small for a 'large car' ..which it is by weight.
          It will draw 74kw up a steep hill. In the Aussie sun, when at a low charge..bye bye cells.
          Needs to be around 30kwh minimum.
          As I said in the other post, give us the Wey Mocha…take my money! (Even if a Great Wall Spin-off).

          • Bigboomboom on 19/05/2024 - 21:33

            @tunzafun001: If talking about bigger battery, I would rather Aito M5 or M7. Much more refined than Wey.

    • tpopi on 19/05/2024 - 14:33
      +1

      The high starting price in Australia gives them room to "discount" as well… as soon as orders start to drop off, factory bonuses will start popping up!

    • BewareOfThe Dog on 19/05/2024 - 18:52

      BMW and Mercedes are like the German equivalent of Holden and Ford in Germany

    • FeZZa21 on 19/05/2024 - 22:18

      Our GDP per capita is also 3x theirs, so of course everything will be cheaper there

    • G6DP on 19/05/2024 - 22:36
      +1

      No, they are $31000 in China

  • Prav on 19/05/2024 - 12:31
    +7

    Is it the wall charger that Luke Todd from EVDirect announced last year for under $500 and since then no updates?

    • Dumax on 19/05/2024 - 12:37

      Yep

  • hardya on 19/05/2024 - 12:35
    +3

    Theyre ramping up pressure on E. MUSK

  • EagleVista on 19/05/2024 - 12:37
    +9

    Rip Tesla

  • cloudy on 19/05/2024 - 12:38
    +2

    This may be a stupid question, but with a 80km range the battery is gonna be tiny, so it won’t take long to charge even with all trickle charger, so why do you need a wall box?

    • Megahowler on 19/05/2024 - 12:41
      +7

      18kw battery…
      9 hours on the slow charger.. (2kw)
      2.5 on the faster charger (7kw)

      • serpserpserp on 19/05/2024 - 20:44

        It is 2-3kw on a wall socket. Higher on a caravan socket.

    • PinzVidz on 19/05/2024 - 12:46
      +9

      Currently have an Outlander PHEV, using its standard 10A GPO charger. Takes 4-5 hours to fully charge from empty SOC. There's been a couple of times where I've had a short turnaround and not been able to get a full charge heading back out. The ability to get a full charge in a much shorter period of time would be very advantageous.

      • cloudy on 19/05/2024 - 12:55
        +6

        There's been a couple of times

        I think this is my point, it’s an uncommon case. And for many it’s not worth investing 4 figures on such a case and where the alternative is a few dollars in petrol.

        So having this freebie is an occasional saving of 4-5L of petrol. It doesn’t get me excited.

      • gakko on 19/05/2024 - 14:42
        +1

        How are you finding the outlander phev? Its on my radar as I think ahead.

        • PinzVidz on 19/05/2024 - 14:52
          +6

          It's been great. Done 130K now, still good battery life (down from 50km to about 40km EV range). Lifetime average of about 3L/100km. Only issue we've had with it was a failed infotainment touch screen, which Mits replaced under ACL/goodwill.

          Are you looking at new or used? If used, look for a MY20 or later as that's when Mits switched to the 2.4L engine and slightly larger HV battery. The current shape uses the same 2.4L engine and an even bigger HV battery. They're now just too expensive compared to the previous shape pricing.

          • gakko on 19/05/2024 - 16:48
            +1

            @PinzVidz: Interesting. Been looking at new.Wasn't aware they had bumped up like that though. Ev and phev is a confusing market for me altogether.

            • tunzafun001 on 19/05/2024 - 20:19
              +3

              @gakko: The PHEV is an amazing first generation effort. But they haven't changed enough over 10 years. Battery should be 30kwh minimum.
              But, it's still the only car with off-road '4WD' ability and can run full EV, yet do 700km if you need it…and can put another 300km in a Jerry can if you need it.

      • krisspy on 20/05/2024 - 15:50

        The ev just saves you petty on this car, it's not critical for it to move.

        You're gonna spend $1000 installing the 7kw box for what? Making sure you're always 100% charge to save a dollar or two? You're never gonna make that $1000 back from petrol saved vs using the 10a GPO.

    • Bigboomboom on 19/05/2024 - 12:49
      +3

      Some Electricity plan has super cheap or even free time windows. OVO 11AM-2PM free window for example.

      • freefall101 on 19/05/2024 - 13:21

        Solar can have a short window of excess power too. Especially in winter, my power goes into the heating in the morning, afternoon into the car once the house is warm. Then if I need a full charge I put it back on after 9pm to get off peak.

    • md333 on 20/05/2024 - 12:46

      I thought the same thing, but found with our Outlander PHEV a faster charger was actually really useful, as we could do 2 trips a day on EV, it wouldn't charge fast enough with the trickle charger, so would need to wait overnight for it to charge. Might not be as useful on the BYD as it has close to twice the EV range and more likely to go a full day without needing a charge.

  • sunnyc on 19/05/2024 - 12:38

    I don't think it will fix the problem of BYD owners hogging ac chargers with their slow charging

    • Nuggets on 19/05/2024 - 12:49
      +4

      I think you might be confusing AC and DC.

      • slankets on 19/05/2024 - 12:58
        +2

        Both are slow for BYD? Eg my local 22kW AC gets used by BYD but at 7kW. Most cars are 11. 22 is quite the luxury.

        • Nuggets on 19/05/2024 - 14:49
          +1

          Difference in charge time between 7 and 11 is in absolute terms relatively small.

          Regardless of AC or DC though everyone has the right to use chargers if they’re paying for it. What’s irksome is when a car has finished charging but is idle and taking up the spot.

          • krisspy on 20/05/2024 - 15:52

            @Nuggets: If it's a Tesla give the car a nudge to set off sentry, watch the owner come out in about 4 secs flat.

    • pumpkins on 19/05/2024 - 13:35
      +5

      So far the only AC charger hoggers I see are Teslas. So many fully charged and still sitting there plugged in.

      • sunnyc on 19/05/2024 - 13:42
        -4

        Do Teslas sit fully charged for 2.5hrs or BMW/Renault sit fully charged for 5 hours because that's how long a BYD would additionally have to take on a full charge.

      • Caped Baldy on 19/05/2024 - 15:57

        Agreed Teslas are the worst for this. They're the most common EVs and most clueless people will get them.

        • BewareOfThe Dog on 19/05/2024 - 18:54
          +3

          Tesla is the auto version of iPhones.
          Over-rated
          Over-priced

      • xuqi on 19/05/2024 - 16:06
        +2

        They should give them a 5mins grace period, after which they start charging the user extra $ (similar to US), for every minute they stay plugged in after a full charge.

      • Ibz on 20/05/2024 - 14:27

        Well of course… The top two most sold EVs in Australia in 2024 were the Tesla Model Y, and then the Model 3. [1]
        In fact, you can add up ALL other EV's sold in 2023 from ANY manufacturer and the total would be less than just Tesla. So of course when over half the EV's are Tesla, the majority of EV's charging would be Tesla, and the majority of EV charger hoggers would be Tesla.

        It's not about the owner of the car. It's not that deep. If you're going to hate Tesla, use a real reason!

    • semaj on 19/05/2024 - 21:10

      Where are all the public 22kw AC chargers are you talking about - I thought most AC chargers were private?

  • botchie on 19/05/2024 - 12:39
    -3

    Byd is so much cheaper in china , not sure if the middlemen here is making 100% markup of what's going on but soon enough the price will be about right
    Rip to those that bought Tesla junk

    • mckayver on 19/05/2024 - 12:47
      +13

      Agreed. I sat in my neighbours tesla and my new mazda 3 has better interior. Stupid tesla doesn't have speedo behind the sterling wheel.. Dangerous looking to the centre screen.

      • DannyBoy on 19/05/2024 - 12:50
        +4

        Toyota Yaris and Prius have had centre gauges for decades. Not so much dangerous but a rubbish Idea as the driver is only person that should need to focus on such info

        • Anthropomorphised on 19/05/2024 - 14:13
          +2

          Yaris and Prius moved away from centre dials years ago because it was a poor experience.

      • rooster7777 on 19/05/2024 - 13:25
        -7

        I've heard of the fifth wheel, the crown wheel, the spinning wheel etc etc ad finitum…. but what's the sterling wheel? Is it something made of old pommy 1 pound notes?

        PS… I've sat in the missus's yaris for a couple of hundred thousand kilometres, and never had a second thought about the central instruments location being dangerous. Likewise using GPS screen, using a rear view and side mirrors, and side windows. If you want to suggest looking at a mobile phone is distractingly dangerous, I'd agree with that. Say no to texting!

        Are you macgyver's mum? You sure don't sound like the quick thinking super capable role model…. ahem

        • DannyBoy on 19/05/2024 - 14:57
          +1

          Now that's a lot to unpack on a Sunday. I think you need a hobby 😂

          • rooster7777 on 19/05/2024 - 16:08
            +1

            @DannyBoy: The modern world…. where videos should be shorts, and more than 43 words is beyond concentration…..
            Danny boy, your fictional namesake would be horrified with you. (and I'm not talking about a horrifying rapper..)

  • H4ydos on 19/05/2024 - 12:44
    +18

    12k or 20k over priced compared to the Chinese market, still out specs RAV4 and outlander. 0-100 in 5.9 secs for a phev is amazing and at 60k Drive Away.
    Puts Toyota and Mitsubishi to shame. No one cares about brands or brand loyalty anymore. It clearly doesn't do anything good for the consumer. Good on BYD for disturbing the market.

    • braddsey on 19/05/2024 - 13:15
      +2

      Serious question… why do people get excited about 0-100 times, particularly on an electric vehicle and even more particularly in Australia? Other than the “look what my car can do”, most people aren’t planing it at every set of traffic lights, and people i know who have electric cars are typically trying to conserve their power.

      • rooster7777 on 19/05/2024 - 13:32

        Always puzzles me! Something about a cheap way to pump an ego?

        I can understand power and speed in the old days, when men were men, motorbikes were delightfully fast and lethal, and mates were dead…. but in our electronic age of speed cameras, radar, laser detectors, and vehicle seizure….that sort of stuff is a thing for the past, unless you go boy racer at the drag strip or raceway.

        When the EV market has appealing characteristics with significant range, adequate power, and far cheaper price tags…. I'm in.

        I was extremely puzzled when someone was banging on about the increased running costs of EVs compared to ICE… until I worked out the boofhead's logic was that they had so much power they were going to shred things. Only if you flatten the pedal…. though I can't wait to see a power loving EV driver stick their car up a tree or something, when they press the wrong pedal hard and jump a couple of commodores in the shopping centre and launch for the stratosphere.

        • braddsey on 19/05/2024 - 16:35
          +3

          I lived in Germany for 10 years and did a lot of driving up and down the autobahn in a variety of different cars. Mostly everything did the job (the smart 2 seater struggled!).
          Coming back to Melbourne, it’s either city driving in traffic or watching the speedo to make sure we stay under 3kph over the limit.
          I worked out the most important thing to me in Australia is highway noise, but i’m not really a car guy.

          We hired a BYD ATTO 3 for a couple of weeks last time we were in Germany. Turned me off buying a BYD entirely…

        • H4ydos on 21/05/2024 - 14:46

          If one brand is offering a 150kw powertrain at 60k
          A new brnad offering a 230kw powertrain at 60k
          Will you use the extra 80kw. probably not but you will feel it when you need that extra power.
          Why pay the same price for lesser specs, this is why specs are important to some.

      • May4th on 19/05/2024 - 13:36
        +2

        Some people like to drive cars and not appliances I guess. Personally it's low down on the list of priorities for me but if you are spending up to 2hrs a day driving some people like to have the handling

        • rooster7777 on 19/05/2024 - 16:01
          +1

          I agree with you about handling… getting a bit of excitement within the boundaries of the machinery, without killing yourself or others.
          Some of the best handling cars have been rather low powered.

          • May4th on 20/05/2024 - 11:13

            @rooster7777: I'm all for EVs and my next car is 99.9% an EV but I do see the appeal of having a light 2 seater rear wheel drive ICE like MX-5 to take out for a spin on the weekends

      • TrulyUnicorn on 19/05/2024 - 13:43
        +4

        It's one metric that gives you a slight sense of a car's "sportiness", and cars with 9+ second times often feel sluggish when you're trying to quickly match traffic speed.

        But it's mostly just something easy for reviewers to measure and talk about which sticks out when it's hard to directly compare cars.

        • rooster7777 on 19/05/2024 - 16:05

          How on earth did people survive in earlier times? About 4 generations ago (and for the previous 300 or so generations) a horse was fast… but now unicorns find over 9 seconds 0-100 to be sluggish? If it takes you more than the time of 2 breaths it's not good enough?

          A lot of people should spend a lot more time on bicycles!

      • tunzafun001 on 19/05/2024 - 20:22

        Maybe they own tyre shops…

        Heavy cars with rapid acceleration..

        $$$$$

    • Baruarua on 19/05/2024 - 15:15
      +1

      Are you damn high LOL. Above all the bells and whistles that a cheap emerging brand uses to catch your eyeballs, it's the car's quality and safety that should matter the most for every driver and passenger, and these are tested and witnessed thru the ages. Whether you like it or not, way too many people care about brands and brand effects play a big role in purchase decisions.

  • spudgun on 19/05/2024 - 12:47
    +13

    It aint the specs or the price, it's the reliability, depreciation, longevity and long term support, particularly for software-dependent gadgets.
    I salue all the early adopters/volunteer guinea pigs.

    • botchie on 19/05/2024 - 12:55
      +2

      All the Tesla owners ?

      • Alzori on 19/05/2024 - 13:15
        +1

        All the Tesla early adopters, sure. Their brand is pretty well understood now. BYD is all new here - to be seen how well it performs. I've seen very negative reports coming out of China but those could be biased sources.

        Will be good to see how BYD goes in the local market and if it does experience significant issues or not!

  • tessel on 19/05/2024 - 12:48
    +1

    I'm waiting for the BOGOF EV deal.

  • dngo on 19/05/2024 - 12:48
    +1

    anyone know any good EV/PLEV that are 7 seaters?

    • mkh1991 on 19/05/2024 - 12:51
      +1

      Mitsubishi Outlander—PHEV
      Mercedes EQB— Fully EV
      Kia EV-9—FUlly EV, but bit pricier.

      • bobz79 on 19/05/2024 - 14:19
        +14

        Kia/Hyundai is getting over confident.. They are NOT a premium brand as they think! 110K - 140K for EV9 is a joke :-) Comparable Sorento is 55K - 73K. There is no sensible reason to pay 55-70K extra (double the price) to buy an EV!!

        I am sure they will learn the lesson soon and cut the prices. People buy Korean for value for money, not brand value.
        https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/from-20k-budget-hatchb…
        https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/dont-expect-a-…

        They are selling not because they have better engines than Japanese.. rather more warranty (questionable), shiny things and better interior! Resale values are not good either.

        The Chinese brands are now where the Koreans were a few years ago and will be phased out if not competitive enough.

        There were some reports from Canada that Hyundai/Kia charges ~50K for EV battery replacement vs ~25K for Tesla!
        https://www.kiaevforums.com/threads/ioniq-5-battery-replacem…
        https://dailyhive.com/canada/canadian-driver-ev-replacement-…

        I think only reasons to buy an EV are the instant acceleration and environment impact. It is a myth that it will save you money :-)
        https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-comparisons/900km-560-mile-…

        • Pacify on 19/05/2024 - 14:30
          +1

          $100k for a Kia is definitely a lot of money

        • pragmaticguy on 19/05/2024 - 14:53
          +7

          Couldn’t agree more. Went out to potentially buy a Kia Sportage last week, felt like the salesman was doing me a favor in offering a 65k car which was not even hybrid. Went to Haval and saw a better spec’ed car, hybrid, with the same kind of warranty offer, for 20k less. It gets incredibly tough to justify buying a Kia with this kind of competition

        • JoshJ on 19/05/2024 - 17:52
          -4

          So, are you Chinese?

          • nomadspartan on 19/05/2024 - 21:08
            +2

            @JoshJ: No, he's a pragmaticguy.

          • bobz79 on 19/05/2024 - 23:00
            +1

            @JoshJ: I am not, bought 2 new Hyundai's in the past.. looking to buy an EV, at current prices less likely to be a Hyundai/Kia! Was keen about EV9, but laughed at the price! Let's hope EV5 is priced better and more sensibly! Else may be one of these…
            https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/12-new-chinese…

            Anyway not buying another Diesel… slow, smelly and shaky!

            FYI - Hyundai Australia Warranty - 5 yrs, Hyundai US Warranty - 10 yrs!

            • JoshJ on 20/05/2024 - 01:53

              @bobz79: Okay. I was not sure why you were concerned about nationality of the manufacturer. I have never though about it.

              • bobz79 on 21/05/2024 - 20:28

                @JoshJ: Fair point, I was just grouping some manufactures by country. Quite often car manufactures are generalised by country of origin/ownership.. which is mostly true.. However I am more concerned about the brand performance, quality, value, longevity etc!

                It is a bit of exaggeration to say you have never thought about it ;-) You just want ppl to think that way… eg 'Chinese' cars are not often well received because they have been notorious for low quality/safety etc

                It is a bit hard to keep track though.. eg: many popular are now owned by Chinese (MG, Volvo, LDV, Lotus etc) or make in China (Tesla, Hyundai)
                https://www.whichcar.com.au/car-advice/car-manufacturer-bran…

    • CoreNex on 19/05/2024 - 12:56
      +1

      I have a PHEV outlander which is technically a 5+2. The two rear seats are just a bit too small for average adults to sit for long periods of time (20 minutes or more) but is great for kids.

      For the current price for a brand new and the current market, I can't justify buying one. If you can grab a second hand one, sure!

      The other alternative is the Kia Soranto phev full sized 7 seater but last I check (about a year ago) even the dealerships (I check 3 of them in nsw) don't know when it'll be delivered even if you place an order today.

      • mkh1991 on 19/05/2024 - 17:49

        That's because Kia is trying to push the sale of EV9 and perhaps may phase out Sorento PHEV

    • flypig on 19/05/2024 - 12:59
      +1

      Zeeker 009 is coming soon, it's much better than any EV 7 seaters cars available now in Australia.

      https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/12-new-chinese…

    • 87percent on 19/05/2024 - 13:11

      Can import a Honda Odyssey hybrid from Japan. I was looking into it for a bit

    • xrailgun on 19/05/2024 - 13:14

      there's the kia hyundai telluride santa fe sorento palisade twins

  • haz on 19/05/2024 - 12:55
    +3

    For a car that is designed to cover long distances, just providing a tyre repair kit is not good. It should at minimum provide a spare saver tyre. Alternatively, they should provision a cavity for a spare tyre if one decides to purchase their own tyre later, or just use for storage for those who don’t care.

    • BewareOfThe Dog on 19/05/2024 - 19:30

      This seems to be becoming normal.

      Cost $695 for a spare.

  • mrvaluepack on 19/05/2024 - 12:56

    how would it typically cost to install this?

    • CoreNex on 19/05/2024 - 12:59
      +1

      I've been looking around and the charger starts at around $500 while the installation can start from $600

  • RooBun on 19/05/2024 - 12:57

    BYD Shark, when pls?

  • Chocobros on 19/05/2024 - 12:58

    Is 80km ev range considered good?

    • CoreNex on 19/05/2024 - 13:00
      +3

      If you consider the current crop of phev, it's near the top.

      For everyday driving in the cbd/metro, yea, but just barely. We live in Western Sydney and drive into the inner west a few times a day.

    • May4th on 19/05/2024 - 13:58

      For phev probably as good as you are going to get. I'd prefer a full ev but for those who need the safetynet of a petrol engine I can see the use case

    • ATangk on 19/05/2024 - 15:30

      Daily school run + shops will easily fit within the 80km range, can likely do it twice or 3 times between charges.

      • Chocobros on 19/05/2024 - 15:59

        Yh not bad. Was wondering is it good compared to other offerings. As in compared to other hybrid cars.

        • ATangk on 19/05/2024 - 16:40
          +1

          A lot of hybrids won’t go EV only, so you’re only comparing to Plug in Hybrids if you want the only EV mode.

  • Frozensage on 19/05/2024 - 13:03

    what would be the chance of battery tech changing in the next 10 years and all these current EV become useless?

    • evocable on 19/05/2024 - 13:08

      Same chance as every other car from 10 years ago not having the same features current ones do.

    • Dsiee on 19/05/2024 - 13:10

      Zero. A new battery tech doesn't cause all the existing batteries to disappear or die.

    • smarter_fool on 19/05/2024 - 13:12

      You may have to change your battery if the efficiency is reduced significantly after this time. I am hoping that after EVs adoption reaches maturity (may take 10 years) we will see more 3rd party technicians in the market who could swap these battery packs to a more efficient and cheaper alternative than what tesla or others may offer.

      • RooBun on 19/05/2024 - 13:17

        Or go with the NIO way, but I doubt that NIO is willing to invest in Aus anytime soon.

        • rootk1t on 19/05/2024 - 13:35

          I'd say the chance of NIO going under is higher than them coming to Australia

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