Need a New Medium SUV under $100k

Frankensnore on 11/04/2024 - 11:10
Last edited 11/04/2024 - 11:10

Help me find a medium suv. Medium suv is 5-seater family car and 4.6-4.7m length max.

My criteria is:
Has to retain its value somewhat.
Has to be economic of fuel, I don’t want too many trips to station. I can’t see the value in phev, extra $20k would never break even, so thats a no.
I am thinking of lexus nx or rx,
Or mercedes benz glc, but this is not hybrid.
Or bmw x3.

Keen to try ev, but fearful of the price plummet to nothing in just a few years.
I don’t have solar panel.

I don’t mind used cars 1-2 yo.

Preferably not Chinese made cars.

Poll Options

  • 98
    Lexux n450h or rx
  • 9
    Bmw x3
  • 10
    Mercedes glc
  • 213
    Other
Automotive Car SUV

Comments

            • Drakesy on 13/04/2024 - 16:11

              @811b11e8: NGL this got a chuckle from me.

              Taking failing upwards to new levels.

          • vorsprung on 14/04/2024 - 08:45

            @Frankensnore:

            Tesla for example is said to lose 50% in one year.

            Whoever told you this nonsense, it would be wise to take whatever else they say with a grain of salt. You can fact check this yourself on carsales.com.au. Will take you 5 mins tops.

            • sumyungguy on 14/04/2024 - 10:01

              @vorsprung: Carsales shows seller's advertised/aspirational prices but not actuals. Or is there some data/reporting function I'm not aware of? Here's a link to the full year 2023 Automotive Insights Report (AIR), an industry report which is released per calendar month

    • Jake D on 12/04/2024 - 22:29

      five camrys?

  • djones145 on 11/04/2024 - 12:40
    +5

    get a buyers agent to help. with that budget.

    i got one last time when i had 50k to spend on a steak dinner. they helped me match up

  • Ryanek on 11/04/2024 - 12:48
    +1

    Long Range Dual Motor Polestar 4

    • 811b11e8 on 12/04/2024 - 14:46

      I don't get the appeal of these. Are they just for people who hate Elon Musk?

      Telsa seems better: it has a far better ecosystem, a far better charger network, far better aftermarket support, a better warranty, and similar money.

      Polestar also felt cramped on the inside. It's like Volvo/Polestar forgot they didn't have a transmission and driveshaft when designing the interior.

      • Smol Cat on 12/04/2024 - 15:50

        Yes I drove a Polestar on a rental weekend and the leg well felt cramped AF. Why is it so small!

        • WhyAmICommenting on 12/04/2024 - 19:05

          It’s not a pure EV platform - at least some of them. Think ICE body with batteries.

      • Cluster on 16/04/2024 - 14:09

        I hired a Polestar 2 for a weekend and was amazed how they managed to make the car so small on the inside. The center console is ridiculous and makes the car feel so cramped. The bonnet is enormous, like they're hiding a full size ICE in there.

        Polestar sales are woeful. Just 53,000 sold, worldwide. During that time the Tesla 3/Y sold 1.7 million. Polestar is a dying brand.

  • MeesusEff on 11/04/2024 - 13:41

    I have a GLC and the leg room at the back is not great, especially if you have kids. It's about the legroom of those economy flights, bit of a PITA to put them in their front facing seats (no chance if you want rear facing lol), my husband is 190cm and always has to move his seat front to put my son in his seat.

    Our Kluger is very roomy in comparison, excellent leg room. Maybe due to its cheaper price compared to your options, it makes up for the fuel economy. I've had no issues with the car for the past 5 years. I really like the look of the new Klugers too.

    In terms of family and comfort, Alphard and Kia Carnival. I saw an Alphard for sale and the seats look like those recliners at the movies

    • richmond12 on 13/04/2024 - 08:36

      I like alphard but i think insurance will be expensive…

  • apple2016 on 11/04/2024 - 13:44
    -1

    bmw x3 - either the 20d or 30d.

    • Ade99 on 12/04/2024 - 09:20

      or a XD3

      • apple2016 on 12/04/2024 - 16:25

        that wont be under $100k

  • netjock on 11/04/2024 - 13:50
    +5

    I love missing impossible posts on OzB.

    You put criteria that is hard to satisfy.

  • antojamo on 11/04/2024 - 13:55
    +3

    2024 Toyota Prado.

  • altomic on 11/04/2024 - 14:00
    +11

    A 2014 camry and $90,000 in gold bullion

  • geekcohen on 11/04/2024 - 14:40
    -3

    Just to be different, Ford Ranger Wildtrack or Platinum. Good on retaining value if you keep it well kept, good on fuel, ticks most of your boxes, 5 or 7 seater, can tow and doesn't have the I am a fancy prick written all over it like a Lexus or BMW does.

    • Euphemistic on 11/04/2024 - 15:51

      Everest?

      • Frankensnore on 11/04/2024 - 15:52
        -1

        Missus thinks it’s too dam big and thirsty

        • geekcohen on 11/04/2024 - 16:15
          +2

          And a Mercedes Benz GLC isn't big?

        • pegaxs on 12/04/2024 - 09:14
          +21

          it’s too dam big and thirsty

          Then buy her a $25,000 fuel card with the change you get from your $100,000.

          I dont get how people can buy a $100,000 car and then complain how it's "thirsty". You are going to put $2~$3,000 worth of fuel through it in a year, but are going to lose $20,000 in depreciation in that same time… But yeah… "fuel prices…" amirite??"

      • geekcohen on 11/04/2024 - 16:15
        +1

        Yes, sorry, miss edit. I meant Everest.

    • boirganz on 12/04/2024 - 20:39

      But the stipulation was that it had to have the street cred. After all, it’s important what other people think of us by looking at our car…

  • Hellfire on 11/04/2024 - 15:23
    -2

    Bmw ix3 on 3yr novated lease.

    It will hold its value well over the 3 years and assuming you on on the highest tax bracket will came out well ahead of owning an ice car.

    • Frankensnore on 11/04/2024 - 15:51
      -1

      Is ix3 ev?

      Will look into it

  • merriweather on 11/04/2024 - 15:52
    +1

    compare the options on toyota.com and pick your favourite one.

  • fredblogs on 11/04/2024 - 16:06

    I'm in the same boat and looking at NX350h, probably 1-2yrs old. Although they're almost the same price as new due to the wait times.

    I don't really like the road noise from the run flats but there's no perfect car.

  • sumyungguy on 11/04/2024 - 19:02
    -1

    Jaguar E-PACE P250 R-Dynamic HSE

  • TheOtherLeft on 12/04/2024 - 07:54
    +5

    What are you doing on OzBargain? You obviously don't want a bargain.

  • Fredorishi on 12/04/2024 - 08:13
    +4

    Lol. If you really cared about your family, you would spend 200k. And get an EV so you dont have to stand around at the servo with the plebs . I would go the Porsche Taycan for the significant anchor-with- a- capital -"W" factor.

    • Frankensnore on 13/04/2024 - 15:54
      -1

      Would love that

      • serpserpserp on 13/04/2024 - 21:39

        Then step up. You did say you have money and are old and only live once etc.

  • Ade99 on 12/04/2024 - 09:18

    A XD3 would be one which is fun , economic with a reasonable depreciation curve

  • MS Paint on 12/04/2024 - 09:44
    +9

    Troll post for sure. Glad I didn't get sucked in.

    • pharkurnell on 12/04/2024 - 11:18

      agree

    • Euphemistic on 12/04/2024 - 13:51
      +1

      Doing a good job of keeping up the troll with replies in here.

    • boirganz on 12/04/2024 - 20:41
      +2

      Of course it is. No one is this stupid in real life.

      … wait a minute

  • azero on 12/04/2024 - 11:20

    A demo or used 2023/4 RX350H. Should be just under 100K. Kluger or a RAV4 would be the sensible choice…

    • Frankensnore on 13/04/2024 - 15:54
      -2

      Kluger is quite nice but too big.

      • Drakesy on 13/04/2024 - 16:13
        +1

        You know what definitely isn't too big?

  • pharkurnell on 12/04/2024 - 11:21

    Why do you feel you need to spend $100k on a car to have luxury?

    • Drakesy on 13/04/2024 - 16:13
      +2

      Self flagellation.

  • Minimum chips on 12/04/2024 - 11:22
    +2

    You can get the top of the line of any "normal" medium SUV for $100k, instead of paying a premium for Merc/BMW/Audi badging and only minor improvements. I'd say get a Skoda, because the styling is less bland than most medium SUVs. I drove the Kodiaq for a while recently. Lots of neat little luxury features, but still a sensible car and good on fuel.

    You can spend the money left over to spec out even better tyres and custom finishes, and pre-pay for detailing every week for a couple years. Having a car that's showroom clean every week? That's real luxury.

    • McFly on 14/04/2024 - 13:05

      +1 for the Kodiaq.

  • saltypete on 12/04/2024 - 11:28

    Be aware that technology and economics in the next few years will disrupt personal transport. If you want to retain value - don’t buy an expensive car of any kind unless you are pretty sure it’s going to become a collectors item.
    ICE cars are going to be dropping in popularity as EVs become the key market (except for special purpose vehicles - tow vehicles etc)
    EVs are likely to lose value as tech will change pretty fast and batteries keep getting cheaper.
    The suburban second family car is likely to become less common - flooding the secondhand ICE market.

    FWIW I’d just buy something I really liked or stick with cheap and cheerful. Spend what you’re happy to p@ss against the wall…👍

  • Thinkscape on 12/04/2024 - 11:33
    +4

    It's 2024.
    Just get a Model Y (best selling car globally 2023, proven, tested, ultimate family car, drive for free if you have solar on your roof), or a Kia EV9, or Polestar 4…
    There are several other good Chinese options.
    Youtube in-depth reviews are your friends.

    • Thinkscape on 12/04/2024 - 11:33
      +1

      You can rent most of those for weekend on https://www.evee.com.au/

    • boirganz on 12/04/2024 - 20:42
      +6

      They are very decent. But for the love of cars GIVE ME SOME BUTTONS. Making everything touch screen only is such a horrid experience.

      • McFly on 14/04/2024 - 12:59

        Yep, a car without buttons for regular functions is a deal-breaker.

      • milanoxpress on 15/04/2024 - 04:53
        -2

        They will soon replace the steering "wheel" with a press screen button type. Like you use on your Nintendo gameboys, PC driving game keyboard physical left/right buttons replaced by touch screen.
        Enjoy!

        But once the big screen fails, you have a paperweight waiting to be thrown to the EV graveyard dumpster. Why? Everything is integrated into the big screen you have in the middle. Yup you can replace it but manufacturer will charge you an arm & a leg for it. Expect it to be $$$$$. They want you to buy a newer EV & toss the current one away.
        This is so "environmentally conscious" isn't it??
        How nice of them to develop a EV & market it like it's a clean solution to the ICE automobiles. NOT.

        EVs are "environmentally friendly" choice?? No CO2 emissions? True but what about CO2 & other harmful contaminates that was released during the manufacturing of the EVs??

        Next series coming up from big T….
        "We've replaced the brake & accelerator pedal with a all on screen touch function. Now all your steering & brake/accelerator is on the big middle screen"
        Fantastic. NOT.

  • TightAl on 12/04/2024 - 11:51
    +1

    Don't be a tightass, buy a Merc

  • Wasabi Ninja on 12/04/2024 - 12:14
    +1

    Wow OP got negged into oblivion

  • dji1111111 on 12/04/2024 - 12:43
    +2

    You want a 100k car but want it to hold its value? You are asking for the impossible.
    I would get an EV that's eligible for fbt exemption under novated lease. That will be a better defense against depreciation than hoping that one of the 100k cars will hold its value.

  • FilePeter on 12/04/2024 - 15:11
    +4

    Volvo XC60, fantastic vehicle.

    • pitiek on 12/04/2024 - 18:58

      He said no Chinese car preferably…

      • xiaoli on 15/04/2024 - 13:57

        How about an Indian car like a Jaguar or Land Rover?
        Maybe a German car like a used Bentley?

  • 2esc on 12/04/2024 - 16:29

    Does it have to be around $100,000 why not look at around $50,000 range? Is this about bragging rights?

  • Sterio on 12/04/2024 - 16:46

    Need or want?

  • CocaKoala on 12/04/2024 - 17:09

    criteria is:
    Has to retain its value somewhat.
    …
    mercedes benz glc
    bmw x3.

    Lol - these cars will indeed retain their value "somewhat".

  • dvsbastard on 12/04/2024 - 17:52

    If you care so much about depreciation of the car maybe you should just spend a bit less?

  • Karaxela on 12/04/2024 - 19:25

    Own a Lexus NX350H for about a year now and absolutely love it. Mostly used for daily commutes, weekend outings, and the occasional short road trip.

    We also got an older Kluger but I can say the NX is the perfect size for an SUV for a small family.

    If you got 100K to burn id say the Lexus NX Fsport offers that balance between an SUV premium badge combined with the solid reliability and drive you'd expect from a Toyota given their synergies.

    • fredblogs on 15/04/2024 - 10:02

      Do you find it noisy because of the run flat tyres?

      • Karaxela on 15/04/2024 - 15:38

        Haven't really noticed on normal roads. Can sound abit rough where the roads are not smooth but nothing that bothers me.

  • RefusdClassification on 12/04/2024 - 19:33
    -1

    Save the planet. Use public transport or ride a bike.

    Australians need to stop buying mini APCs just to drop one kid off at school or a sporting match. There's a 50%+ sin tax on alcohol; lets put a sin tax on Middle Class Status Symbols like SUVs. Middle Class people can afford it; they are rich. Interest rates kept going up, but housing prices kept going up at the same time. The middle class has far too much money. That's why we have excessive inflation; TOO MUCH MONEY chasing too few goods.

    • Cyphar on 12/04/2024 - 21:49
      +2

      SUV's are the best when serving their purpose. I work in agtech. I spend half my time on farms or driving unpaved roads in regional areas. They are the (profanity) best at this. I also take mine camping too. Bees knees. They have scratches and dents, I don't give a shit about that.

      But yep, mums buying them to drop off little Jimmy at school and then go to Pilates class is just rediculous.

      • serpserpserp on 13/04/2024 - 21:37

        Well you wouldn't have a SUV? Wouldn't you just buy a Landcruiser or at worst a Prado shudder

  • Willy Beamish on 12/04/2024 - 20:14

    You're buying a car and you want to hold its value? Lol especially if it's going to be thrashed as a family vehicle.

  • zombie hunter on 12/04/2024 - 20:19

    No brainer get a lickarse (Lexus).

  • Dollar General on 12/04/2024 - 20:30

    Buy a Cherry SUV & then buy some Merc badges of eBay and put them on the car. 90% of people wouldn’t spit the difference

  • Cyphar on 12/04/2024 - 21:47
    +1

    "Need"

  • ModBot on 12/04/2024 - 22:49

    Nissan X-Trail ePower

  • bathuu on 13/04/2024 - 06:00
    -2

    Just buy Lexus and be done with. Mod please close the thread.

    • zombie hunter on 14/04/2024 - 11:42
      -1

      I agree but 2 others neg ya. Reckon they drive cars from the Bullsh1t Motors Works

  • quick-dry on 13/04/2024 - 10:25
    +1

    Does a secondhand BMW iX fit the bill? They'd have lost they're nice to drive, will give you that 'I spend money' aesthetic, and if you want them to they can go like the clappers. But they're full EV so you need to deal with that. The only way you'll have any retention of value after purchase of a 'luxury' SUV is if you buy it after it has already taken the biggest hit. They're not collectibles, they're not rare, they're just expensive, they don't retain value.

    The gap between 'luxury' and 'regular' isn't as far apart as it used to be. Dad always buys Mercedes, the fit, finish, 'door noise', everything, used to be leaps and bounds ahead. Now… even a cheap and cheerful yaris comes with radar cruise control, lane keeping, etc.

    Lexus are nice to drive, but I hate the interior styling, it's like I'm inside a Robo-Mecha-Gundam… and then I have a cheap looking round analog clock added for some reason.

    I'm really happy with my Nissan X-Trail ePower, I've driven the Range Rovers, the Mercs, BMWs, all of them… the major difference is price and how polished the showroom experience is. Even if you set aside any fuel savings, the driving exprience is actually nicer in electric power unless you're buying a firebreathing sportscar for the engine sound.

  • darkeagle on 13/04/2024 - 11:27
    +1

    Nissan X trail epower 2024 - bang for your buck

    • Hackney on 13/04/2024 - 11:40

      Better off with a full Hybrid, there is negligible difference in fuel economy compared to its petrol only variants.

    • Frankensnore on 13/04/2024 - 15:52

      I think the battery may not last that long, charge and release all the time, it probably dies in 5 years.

      It’s a very gimmick technology, imo.

      • Hackney on 13/04/2024 - 16:58

        ‘E-Power’ is not that great, have to agree.

      • serpserpserp on 13/04/2024 - 21:36

        it probably dies in 5 years.

        No one knows. But the old EV batteries from the early Tesla's are still going strong by and large and they are reaching 6 years now.

  • Hackney on 13/04/2024 - 11:38

    Ah, he wants a ‘Toorak tractor’!Should I say ‘snob value’? Euro’s depreciation is nothing short of insane.You don’t need to spend around 100k on a SUV.Anything Japanese or Korean is fine, very reliable, reasonable service costs.

    • Speckled Jim on 13/04/2024 - 16:31

      They want the improbable, if not impossible when you consider:

      • Around 100K — the Commonwealth government thanks you for your generous Luxury Car Tax bonus!
      • Good on fuel, but not PHEV and forget EV. So it's a regular hybrid or diesel.

      Seems like they decided on a Lexus and worked their way back. A better question would have been: What are the Lexus RX/NX equivalents for around 100K? Because — whisper it — their platforms are shared with cheaper Toyota offerings.

      My suggestion is possibly a bad one, but I'd research the hell out of the Alfa Tonale Veloce. Sure, it's a bit shy of 4.6m (at 4.53m) and it's tens of thousands under budget, but they look great inside and out and well under the LCT threshold.

      • Hackney on 13/04/2024 - 17:00

        Umm, it’s Euro again, & Italian @ that, you would not touch one.Why put yourself through the pain of owning one?

        • Speckled Jim on 13/04/2024 - 17:28
          -1

          Well, yeah but no, as it's Stallantis, Michigan HQ. They're all sorts of things now (Jeep / Alfa / Opel etc).
          But yeah, that's another hurdle if you consider it Euro. So it's Lexus, or Lexus.

          • Hackney on 14/04/2024 - 10:37

            @Speckled Jim: They can be a ownership nightmare.Better off staying away.

  • BlahBlahBlaah on 13/04/2024 - 12:00
    -1

    Stelvio Quadrifoglio. Life is short, enjoy it.

    • Drakesy on 15/04/2024 - 16:19
      +1

      Owning an Alfa Romeo and Enjoying life would be an oxymoron imho.

      • BlahBlahBlaah on 15/04/2024 - 20:52

        5 years on my Giulia QV and still going strong. A redline a day keeps the mechanic away

  • MikeKulls on 13/04/2024 - 12:04

    You want an SUV that maintains it's value and then you look at the likes of Lexus, Mercedes etc. Have a look at the price of second hand Mercedes, it's not good. Compare to the price of something like a Hilux, second hand ones with a bunch of Ks and they are still $40k

  • nuttapillar on 13/04/2024 - 13:55

    What is Phev?

    • Hackney on 13/04/2024 - 17:01
      +1

      Plug in Electric vehicle.

    • quick-dry on 13/04/2024 - 21:05
      +1

      plug-in hybrid

      so it has an engine that can charge it up like a regular hybrid, and it also has a bigger battery (than regular hybrid) that can be charged up like an EV, and driven on a short range purely as an EV. I think some get up to 80km range on their battery, so for short runs to the shops its like having a pure EV, and for longer trips you have the range of a hybrid/ICE.

      • serpserpserp on 13/04/2024 - 21:33
        +1

        range of a hybrid/ICE.

        Your car is also 2 tonnes in weight :)

  • alebox on 13/04/2024 - 14:40
    +2

    not sure about value retention but check out the genesis GV70. a lot of car for those dollars and they include a lot of great feature for the price

    • ChrisLevo on 13/04/2024 - 14:52
      +1

      Got ours late last year and loving it.

      2.5T RWD goes really hard, and the interior has way more than any Euro costing 50% more.

      We have people come up and compliment us on the car's appearance, and one of those people ordered one the next day :-)

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