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Heard about this game…. don't know if it worth playing if you haven't in 2024… but cheap..
[PC, Steam] Final Fantasy VII $7.18 @ Steam
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can you get the new version on steam?
Remake and Intergrade (the DLC) is on Steam, the new Rebirth is exclusive to PS5 and was released a month ago. It’ll come to PC eventually
Nah, the OG stands up just fine.
The games are nothing alike. I don't know why anyone wanting to play the original for its gameplay should necessarily like the newer one unless they were a huge fan of the original source story material.
To be fair the original is the prequel story to the new games. The new games are the sequel story and even though they can be played without prior knowledge, you will still be a bit lost at parts.
I am a HUGE fan of the OG game. The new one not so much. I want to like it, just can't
Same. The tonal shift of dialogue. The characterisation to more moody/dull. The original writing of remake is worse than Crisis core. The pacing… oh my lord the pacing is slow as balls. FF7 OG wasn't break neck or anything but this is ridiculous. Pointless Ubisoft towers in rebirth. Materia system didn't need changing.
It looks fantastic, combat is a lateral move at best if I'm being generous and the VA dub is decent. That's about it.
Dude, have you seen the mods available these days? It's a whole new game and you basically get a totally customisable remaster experience. The 7th Heaven mod manager makes everything insanely simple as well.
That’s sounds good. Last time I played it was in my 20s with the OG Ff7 looming to relive the adventure in my mid teens. Before steam was really the juggernaut it is now. If I’m going to be replaying an ff today it’s prob going to be ff tactics advanced or ffx - god I miss that sphere grid leveling system. Perfect in every way.
Yeah the sphere grid was ace. FF9 had a cool system as well. Check this out for ff7 as a starting point: https://youtu.be/OUy5hdGvOSY?si=3T2GHAjcNbAqdqBx&t=137
Also the "cosmos gaia" mod mentioned later in that same video. The models shown in the video are part of the "Ninostyle Chibi" mod.
@eggboi: ngl i am actually tempted looking at this video to go back and stuff around with mods (i normally dont, not even with games i play almost obsessively like fallout nv and skyrim).
@Jimothy Wongingtons: I was in the same boat - modding is usually too much hassle and OCD-inducing. I was surprised at the simplicity of using the FF7 mod manager, and how much improvement a few of those mods provide. After switching the mods back off, it looks like an early-alpha demo. You HAVE to try the Barret mod for giggles as well. Folks on the Discord community are super helpful if you need advice or troubleshooting: https://discord.com/invite/tsunamods-community-2776105017210…
It's a whole new game
So is the remake, and as cool as mods are they usually don't beat the integration of a AAA publisher remake
Remake / Rebirth are great, but are not a substitute in any way. They were specifically intended NOT to be.
You're eating downvotes but I agree.
Personally the pixel art of FFI-VI aged so much better than the polygons in FFVII 1997. I think the gameplay of the new version lends itself to the story and maps better - the map is more suitable for action combat and an open-world feel.
I personally feel FFXII managed to fully realize the FFVII gameplay scope, with a big open world with detail and an engaging combat system (I still think of the boolean statements you could program into your NPC party which gave 12 year old me a surprisingly good foundation in programming).
eating downvotes
yeah really eating into my retirement upvote stash :')
guess i gotta post till im 75 now before i can look at cashing out the upvotes and retiring.ff6 pixel art
yeah exactly. though i must say god how good was the rough as hell polygon models in 1997 on ps1 at the time.
blew my mind as a 11-12 year old.the op also said
don't know if it worth playing if you haven't in 2024
Idk - with modern gaming the way it is now, and with many gamers having a similar steam unplayed library of shame as insane as mine or more , i just cant see anyone sitting down after never touched ff7 OG (lets not even talk about the advanced mods etc because thats not how it is 'out of the box' when you get it on steam) , and saying oh hell yeah let me throw a casual 40+ hours into this and not think..damn this is pretty aged compared to modern day gaming options. prepares for another neg landlisde
Lol, look in all honesty, these type of suggestions are always going to be subjective.
There is no hard and fast rule… everyone was hoping the remake would recreate the original… and to some extent they did, however in saying that the devs adding their own story flair and twists that weren't in the original no longer made this an easily translatable recommendation.
Except the new combat system is is dog shit on toast lol.
Can barely see where the enemy is, what's happening or wtf is going on with this weird clunky menu in between for casting abilities and using items.
Agree! Turn based is what got me into the FF series.. all the new ones are no good for my old and slow reflexes
It's not the same, but you can put it on 'classic mode' and let the ai do the hack and slash, then just jump in to direct the main attacks, spells etc that use the ATB bar. I started doing this because it just got way too annoying with all the idiotic jumping around and being hit from all directions without being able to see any incoming attacks. God of War (2018 and Ragnarok) do an excellent job of action-based combat. It's super satisfying once you learn when to dodge, parry, etc.
This is a traditional, turn based JRPG with arguably one of the greatest stories ever told in gaming.
Remake and Rebirth go to great lengths to sour that tale by adding unnecessary multiverse/fan fiction-esque tropes that I argue detract from that original narrative.Stupid opinion, Remake and Rebirth are canonically a sequel to FF7. It builds on the original narrative by incorporating stories they wanted to tell in the same universe in different media. Original story hasn't gone anywhere.
I was under the impression they said that it isn't exactly the same timeline/universe hence 'remake' component. I haven't got very far into the Remake yet to tell what is vastly different.
Hilarious. The canonical sequel to FF7 was the straight to video premiere titled ‘Advent Children’.
FF7 Remake and Rebirth are requels/reimaginings of the base game.When you take a 6 hour section of the original game and pad it out to 40+, as in Remake, it’s fair to say the original story has gone somewhere.
What about FF7 Remake Intergrade too? Yuffie in Midgar? Definitely canon in your eyes.
Have you… played the game? It being a sequel is not some head canon.
@zounce: I'm confused. So FFVII Remake is a sequel to FFVII Original?
Does that mean that in FFVII Original after Barret and the Avalanche gang hire Cloud for the first time, blow up reactors in Midgar, chase down Sephiroth, etc etc FFVII story, and then we continue the story in FFVII Remake where Barret and the Avalanche gang hire cloud for the first time (again?), blow up the exact same reactors they blew up before?
Like you can argue it's a remake with new storylines incorporated into the game and the graphics andgame play are wildly improved, but you cannot call it a 'sequel', that implies that the story progresses after the events of FFVII Original
@Zythyx: The Remake trilogy story progresses after the events of FFVII - if you actually played (and finished!) the game you would find this out. The events of the original FF7 having already occurred are quite literally crucial to the plot of the Remake, and now Rebirth. This is the strangest disagreement. I am not exaggerating when I say the most crucial plot point of the entire Remake trilogy so far is that it is a sequel to the original game from 1998.
@zounce: Not sure why you're getting smashed down with downvotes… You're speaking the truth.
The new games are "what if / sequel stories about their fates being changed by Sepiroth who already knows the outcome".
Bizzare everyone is hating on you…..
Have you played & finished Rebirth, serious question here. I'm getting the impression you've put this opinion together based on what you have read about Rebirth on youtube.
Yuffie in midgar was only part of intermission.. this definitely could have been still been true. She never engaged in midgar in original but was found in a forest outside midgar.
It's not a sequel. But second half of your comment is correct
It isn't a traditional sequel in a sense, but it's a sequel in the sense that everything that happened in the Original FF7 has happened before, and this is another timeline/universe where it's trying to have a different outcome.
From my limited understanding, there's two types of whispers in the game, the ones who are trying to keep fate on track with what is supposed to happen, and the ones that Sephiroth are controlling.
The ending to Rebirth is all over the place with multi verse on multi verse overlapping each other.
@Ruddaga: Ohh maybe more will be revealed, im doing 100% exploration in each area before proceeding with the story.. im at gold saucer now. maybe rebirth changes things again and everything i thought i knew is again out of whack.
My understanding is that the whispers are introduced to stop the story from deviating far from course but still have altered outcomes such as a few survivals. im half way through rebirth, and im sure its meant to happen in this section, but I again suspect the whisperers would alter Aeris fate.
Its not that its an altered timeline or state but a new concept on the original story for developers to expand/adjust on the original.
Still somethings don't make sense, The opening sequence of the helicopter crash and when Aeris looked into the sky after mount corel and a vision of Aeris and Cloud were in that coma state with Zack and Elmyra attending to them..@maverickjohn: From my understanding, the scenes with Zack in them are Zack from from another timeline, existing in another timeline where the lifespring has run dry. In this timeline, everyone except Cloud and Aerith was killed after the battle with Sephiroth at the end of Remake. Also our OG Biggs has awakened in that timeline as well… There's a scene where Biggs and Zack are talking about Cloud, and they're talking about two different timeline versions of him (one where he's just a normal Shinra Soldier and one where he's a SOLDIER Merc etc).
If I'm being honest the multiverse / timeline gimmick gets old by the end. Too many fake outs and what ifs and what might have happened going on.
Also hot tip - the last final battle you will have to rotate through random party members, so when the game warns you, make sure everyone is geared with materia etc…. First time i did it, my main 3 had everything and it made it a VERY long obnoxious fight.
@Ruddaga: Lol it sounds like they went all F8 on this.. FF8 is my fav anyway. but in FF*, it is suspected that Squall dies after the first cd when he battles edea, and then cd's 2-4 are all what it would have been like if he was alive and he had lived by the choices he wanted.. all bizarre makes no sense but enjoyable nonetheless (For me anyway)
@maverickjohn: My main issue with 7 is a certain characters fate. I won't say who or what their fate is. But the amount of teasing / what if's / dancing around it that happens at the end of the game is obnoxious and it was less a satisfying ending and more a - really? Did it have to go down like that?
Also having Sephiroth as the big final baddy each game is getting old -_-
@Ruddaga: I can imagine that..
FF vii made sephiroth something special from an antagonist perspective, my biggest concern after remake was that i fought him very early.
Made me feel like they will wear out his appeal.
He has always been one of my favourite characters in video game/media history.. along with the likes of Darth Vader.
I just hope they dont ruin him…. Sometimes less is more
@maverickjohn: Also I was doing 100% everything till chapter 13 or 14 and by that stage I was just done lol. Every area opens up with new versions of the mini games and extra quests…. after 90 hours I was like nah… time to move on lol
It sours the tale by making it more coherent and logical and building on it?
And you do know the original is basically about aliens wiping out races and people trying to become God by destroying the planet type stuff?
I definitely don't think the multiverse stuff they added made it more coherent or logical haha.
Only issue I have with Rebirth is the ending is an absolute mess (without commenting too much here to spoil it).
As a sequel / else-worlds story, it's been an enjoyable nostalgia trip.
I actually like that it's not a 1 for 1 remake… But I do think they're trying to hard to make it WAY more complicated then they needed to.
Also given how they kept hinting about fate changing and how certain characters survived in a multi verse in the first part, I will say they missed a chance to do something similar with Rebirth. And the fake out / multi verse nonsense that happened at the end of Rebirth was annoying…
Who knows maybe in 2028 the pay off will be worth it.
Grab this, then try out the 7th Heaven mod scene for a much needed visual overhaul, and enjoy one of the finest games ever made.
Then install New Threat 2.0 and play it again!
Is there a mod that lets you skip or at least fast forward through cutscenes and so on? I'd like to replay it but having to sit through some looong clips gets annoying.
What long clips are you talking about? It's been over a decade since I last completed FF7, so my memory is a bit dim on this one. I don't recall any that were noteworthy though.
Yes this game is great, but personally i think handheld is the best way to experience this game. Buy it on switch.
And no, you shouldn’t just play the remake instead, because the remake is (secretly) a sequel to the original. There will be plot holes if you only play the remakes.
I just finished FF7 Remake last week and am playing the OG FF7 right now (20 hours in). To put it in a way, the games are like parallel worlds where they differ from each other. Whether one is better than the other is debated (At the moment I prefer FF7 Remake), but the original holds up fine.
Biggest complaint I have for the OG is that the controller mapping is pretty bad without mods.
do you mean X and O being swapped. Heaps of Japanese games were originally O confirm and X cancel.
No I mean how when using a controller, the game doesn't tell you the button inputs. For example, the game will tell you that to perform an action press 'OK' or press 'Switch'. Also I should note that OK is the A button (xbox layout), Cancel is B, Switch is Left Bumper for whatever reason, the D-Pad just doesn't flat out work. There are more of those.
The only way for me to figure that out is to press every button and see what works and what doesn't.
Modding the game fixes it, I think. But I haven't done that.
Thanks I now own this on 4 different platforms
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I don't know anything about Final Fantasy 7. I played it as a kid for like 1 hour but I think i was too young to understand whats going on. I want to have the original experience Final Fantasy 7 experience because people tell me the story is amazing. Do you recommend I get the steam version with 7th Heaven mod and not the Final Fantasy 7 Remake that I have on PS5.
I'd always suggest to play the original first, but that's just me
remake is a sequel, if you play the original first you will pick up on things in the remake that are not supposed to be there.
i personally recommend you play it on switch in bed, commuting etc instead of 7th heaven on steam. the switch version has cheats (3x speed and basically invincibility) that you can activate during your playthrough too. i'm not a fan of older games and prefer new games but i really had so much fun with ff7 on switch
What a classic. Should definitely be a bucket list game for any gaming enthusiast. Also, importantly, enriches the recent remakes significantly
Recommendation for those who are keen on going on one of the most epic gaming (or any media) journeys:
1. Play FF7 OG
2. Play Crisis Core Reunion (the recent remaster)
3. Watch FF7 Advent Children (extended version)
4. Play FF7 Remake then play FF7 Rebirth (these are incredible pinnacle-of-gaming experiences)There are other things in the FF7 compilation such as Dirge of Cerberus (old and not a good game) and the mobile game FF7 Ever Crisis… but maybe just watch a YouTube video if you must know the little tidbits from those games. But having finished Rebirth, it's not that necessary IMO
I'll take this original FF7 over remake any day. Remake was so overlong and bloated and it only covered like a third of the story. It's like Peter Jackson's version of The Hobbit. Not badly made or anything, but it takes a classic original story that was about the right length to begin with and just pads it out into a completely unnecessary trilogy that just makes the whole thing tedious.
Might as well play the new version of it, I was a huge fan especially of 7 in the years growing up… but man the OG has not aged well…